Accepted shaper 2.2.12-0.7.3-2 (source all i386)

2006-05-22 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:21:14 -0400
Source: shaper
Binary: shapecfg shaper
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 2.2.12-0.7.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 shapecfg   - Bandwidth limiter for virtual network interfaces
 shaper - Traffic shaper init script (cbq.init) for Linux
Changes: 
 shaper (2.2.12-0.7.3-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Modify last changelog entry (2.2.12-0.7.3-1) to remove erroneous
 unreleased tag.
   * Add '| debconf-2.0' to shaper Depends: to avoid blocking cdebconf
   * Update debian/copyright to note that Red Hat no longer maintains it
Files: 
 f6bf052e66b09844f035f07a5bc52b39 887 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2.dsc
 2e418a9e99d88e22e1b3e7f9007c7510 12592 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2.diff.gz
 f3852d539529803f5a1a46d0ab52e1b2 101872 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2_all.deb
 c5d106a047237f5b2bbb6058cd464541 9366 net extra 
shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.3-2_i386.deb

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Accepted:
shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.3-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.3-2_i386.deb
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2.diff.gz
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2.dsc
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2.dsc
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-2_all.deb


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Accepted sopwith 1.7.1-3 (source i386)

2006-02-19 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:15:55 -0500
Source: sopwith
Binary: sopwith
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.7.1-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sopwith- port of the 1980's side-scrolling WWI dogfighting game
Closes: 298413
Changes: 
 sopwith (1.7.1-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Apply patch from Andreas Jochens [EMAIL PROTECTED] (thanks) to fix FTBFS 
on
 AMD64 (Closes: #298413)
   * Quote bits in debian/menu, thanks linda and lintian.
   * Update FSF address in debian/copyright, also thanks linda and lintian.
   * Update to standards-version 3.6.2.0, no changes required.
   * Change Maintainer: email address from my private address to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
 dc85a1581311a0b88cae707669a8e78f 931 games optional sopwith_1.7.1-3.dsc
 ac23dfd2bdba2e605d278470b01b3b2d 26254 games optional sopwith_1.7.1-3.diff.gz
 2a1e45481fad4598cf7cb933fce27004 52412 games optional sopwith_1.7.1-3_i386.deb

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Accepted:
sopwith_1.7.1-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1-3.diff.gz
sopwith_1.7.1-3.dsc
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1-3.dsc
sopwith_1.7.1-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1-3_i386.deb


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Accepted snac 0.3-5 (source i386)

2006-02-19 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:26:15 -0500
Source: snac
Binary: snac
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 snac   - complete algebraic calculator for GNOME
Closes: 311499
Changes: 
 snac (0.3-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Apply patch from RISKO Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] (thanks) to fix
 erroneous initial trig calculation pref (Closes: #311499)
   * Update standards-version to 3.6.2.0, no changes required.
   * Quote some bits in debian/menu, thanks linda and lintian.
   * Update FSF address in debian/copyright, thanks linda and lintian.
   * Update to debhelper v4
   * Change Maintainer: email address from my private address to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
 a5d7a78dd52fb270b0b6662966d8bb8a 875 gnome optional snac_0.3-5.dsc
 bd1923656410e0b6a41d7d578cf0c0a4 298675 gnome optional snac_0.3-5.diff.gz
 fc1cbaa753adbaa882e197a3e6d698e6 27540 gnome optional snac_0.3-5_i386.deb

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snac_0.3-5.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/snac/snac_0.3-5.diff.gz
snac_0.3-5.dsc
  to pool/main/s/snac/snac_0.3-5.dsc
snac_0.3-5_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/snac/snac_0.3-5_i386.deb


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Accepted gmrun 0.9.1-2 (source i386)

2006-02-19 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:35:47 -0500
Source: gmrun
Binary: gmrun
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.9.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gmrun  - Featureful CLI-like GTK+ application launcher
Closes: 353537
Changes: 
 gmrun (0.9.1-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Enhance default /etc/gmrunrc an new URL handler; URL_term which launches
 the given command with 'sh -c', in an x-terminal-emulator, and waits for
 input when the command finishes. (Thanks to martin f krafft
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the initial patch.)
   * Enhance default /etc/gmrunrc by adjusting the default file handlers to
 take into account various desktop environments, and attempt to use the
 most appropriate application (Thanks again to Madduck)
   * Also add a bunch of apps to AlwaysInTerm (thanks Madduck). This and the
 two above should (Closes: #353537)
   * Quote 'needs' and 'section' values in debian/menu, thanks linda and
 lintian.
   * Updated FSF address in debian/copyright, thanks linda and lintian.
   * Update standards-version to 3.6.2.0, no changes required.
   * Change Maintainer: email address from my private address to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
 004c272f75b4653b597a1326cd57c2d5 866 x11 optional gmrun_0.9.1-2.dsc
 c9e79d5528f10522513badef415e7c89 28328 x11 optional gmrun_0.9.1-2.diff.gz
 9acb9ca5ccc6c31eadf00be2b8545225 46116 x11 optional gmrun_0.9.1-2_i386.deb

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gmrun_0.9.1-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.9.1-2.diff.gz
gmrun_0.9.1-2.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.9.1-2.dsc
gmrun_0.9.1-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.9.1-2_i386.deb


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Accepted alsa-driver 1.0.5a-1 (all source)

2004-06-09 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Wed,  9 Jun 2004 19:37:25 -0400
Source: alsa-driver
Binary: alsa-source alsa-headers alsa-base
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0.5a-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian ALSA Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-base  - ALSA sound driver common files
 alsa-headers - ALSA sound driver header files
 alsa-source - ALSA sound driver source
Closes: 247109 251678 253347
Changes: 
 alsa-driver (1.0.5a-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Steve Kowalik:
 - fuser may exit non-zero. Fix the apm event script. (Closes: #247109)
 - Update the Czech debconf translation. (Closes: #251678)
   * Jordi Mallach:
 - debian/po/da.po: Add Danish translation (thanks, Michael Kristensen;
   closes: #253347).
Files: 
 4f9c3016fbe18e6e067217ed571dceea 1100 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.5a-1.dsc
 2cfe864b423d4ae00930161b79453573 2237029 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.5a.orig.tar.gz
 1cb70a9000cbd1e5a9048c0aa60de405 134482 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.5a-1.diff.gz
 371ce5ba870158e40b0728e618fd2bf8 46612 sound optional alsa-base_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
 254dd331facba008ec6fb1319cf64c94 1833830 sound optional alsa-source_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
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alsa-base_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-base_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
alsa-driver_1.0.5a-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.5a-1.diff.gz
alsa-driver_1.0.5a-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.5a-1.dsc
alsa-driver_1.0.5a.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.5a.orig.tar.gz
alsa-headers_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-headers_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
alsa-source_1.0.5a-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.5a-1_all.deb


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Accepted gqmpeg 0.90.0-2 (i386 source)

2004-03-23 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:56:07 -0500
Source: gqmpeg
Binary: gqmpeg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.90.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gqmpeg - a GTK+ front end to mpg321/mpg123 and ogg123
Closes: 239727
Changes: 
 gqmpeg (0.90.0-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * I forgot to update the Build-Depends in the last upload to reflect the
 migration of this package to GTK2. Rectify this oversight.
 (Closes: #239727)
Files: 
 6c1b8ea2bdd7d1ec3e782e20af272bd6 875 sound optional gqmpeg_0.90.0-2.dsc
 1fa149610be955ebe09b20260e282fac 23789 sound optional gqmpeg_0.90.0-2.diff.gz
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gqmpeg_0.90.0-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0-2.diff.gz
gqmpeg_0.90.0-2.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0-2.dsc
gqmpeg_0.90.0-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0-2_i386.deb


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Debian Project Leader IRC debate cancelled

2004-03-17 Thread David B. Harris
Hey everybody.

Just as a bit of background, Manoj Srivastava (the Debian Project Secretary)
has for the last couple of years delegated the task of running the Debian
Project Leader realtime/IRC debate to myself.

This year we've seen an amazing amount of email traffic to
debian-vote@lists.debian.org, including excellent participation both on the
part of the candidates as well as on the part of the electorate. Almost
every conceivable question relevant to the elections and the candidates'
platforms have been asked and answered (in a few cases, multiple times ;).

With this in mind, and given the time constraints of all people involved,
this year's IRC debate will not take place. After discussion with the
candidates and those who most actively participated in last year's debate,
it was decided that a debate this year would be of little benefit to the
electorate.

If there are still questions you want the candidates to answer and debate
over (I've received only one in the past few weeks), I'd encourage you to
send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please, though, make at
least a cursory check of the archives[1] (if you have a Debian account, you
can download the list archives in mbox format from master.debian.org[2]).
Specifically, those messages which are typically entitled as questions for
the candidates and those messages which start threads.

Thanks,

David B. Harris

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200403/threads.html
[2] master.debian.org:~debian/lists/debian-vote/debian-vote.200403


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Accepted alsa-lib 1.0.3b-1 (i386 source all)

2004-03-17 Thread David B. Harris
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:40:44 -0500
Source: alsa-lib
Binary: libasound2-dev libasound2-plugins libasound2-doc libasound2
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 1.0.3b-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libasound2 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (libraries)
 libasound2-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (development)
 libasound2-doc - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (developer's documentation)
 libasound2-plugins - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (additional plugins)
Closes: 236294 236394 238212
Changes: 
 alsa-lib (1.0.3b-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release
 + Various and sundry dmix problems fixed (Closes: #236394)
 + snd_pcm_mmap_commit fixed (Closes: #238212)
 + Urgency set to 'medium' as these bugs caused problems for a lot of
   people.
   * Don't distribute ancient and non-updated changelog.gz (Closes: #236294)
Files: 
 95856208d1372c6d6f3ee5b3f0e7893b 1179 libs optional alsa-lib_1.0.3b-1.dsc
 4b69544480f0f15a06e10881c49472f5 789254 libs optional alsa-lib_1.0.3b.orig.tar.gz
 257310b990412cf7297c1b163f997dd1 8664 libs optional alsa-lib_1.0.3b-1.diff.gz
 d225dc67358085a96e10eff8c7129bf9 292530 libs optional libasound2_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
 e9e7ffc38fd67d130be63f8950273ed9 419810 libdevel optional 
libasound2-dev_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
 c645701d27ed9c0d73a2c18c11593689 15558 libs optional 
libasound2-plugins_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
 0c4708dbec29cd45e92f7a37fb66e043 367798 libdevel optional 
libasound2-doc_1.0.3b-1_all.deb

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alsa-lib_1.0.3b-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.3b-1.diff.gz
alsa-lib_1.0.3b-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.3b-1.dsc
alsa-lib_1.0.3b.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.3b.orig.tar.gz
libasound2-dev_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-dev_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
libasound2-doc_1.0.3b-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-doc_1.0.3b-1_all.deb
libasound2-plugins_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-plugins_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
libasound2_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2_1.0.3b-1_i386.deb


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Accepted gqmpeg 0.90.0-1 (i386 source)

2004-03-16 Thread David B. Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:38:07 -0500
Source: gqmpeg
Binary: gqmpeg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.90.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gqmpeg - a GTK+ front end to mpg321/mpg123 and ogg123
Changes: 
 gqmpeg (0.90.0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release
   * Urgency set to medium as this new upstream version uses GTK2 instead of
 GTK1, and ideally I'd like to see this one in Sarge if at all possible.
   * config.{sub,guess}, configure: Port changes to new version
Files: 
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 922c6825b31ade665e52ecd57497ef91 1070593 sound optional gqmpeg_0.90.0.orig.tar.gz
 c21e41f61bc405774b7132c95cf1d3d5 23724 sound optional gqmpeg_0.90.0-1.diff.gz
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  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0-1.diff.gz
gqmpeg_0.90.0-1.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0-1.dsc
gqmpeg_0.90.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0-1_i386.deb
gqmpeg_0.90.0.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.90.0.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted alsa-utils 1.0.3-1 (i386 source)

2004-03-05 Thread David B. Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri,  5 Mar 2004 14:40:31 -0500
Source: alsa-utils
Binary: alsa-utils
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-utils - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (utilities)
Closes: 106244 222431 235203
Changes: 
 alsa-utils (1.0.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
   * Jordi Mallach:
 - debian/control: sync description with alsa-lib's.
   * David B. Harris:
 - debian/control:
   + Change my Uploaders: email address from my private address to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   + Add pciutils to Depends, alsaconf uses lspci (Closes: #235203)
 - Move /etc/asound.state to /var/lib/alsa/asound.state:
   + alsaconf/alsaconf.in, alsactl/alsactl.{1,c} via
 patches/10_move_asound_state_to_var.dpatch: Move the default
 asound.state from /etc/ to /var/lib/alsa/ (Closes: #106244)
   + debian/postinst: If /etc/asound.state exists, copy it to
 /var/lib/alsa. alsa-base will require a versioned Depends: on this
 package so that restarting ALSA in its postinst will get the state
 from the right place.
   + debian/postrm: Add abort-{upgrade,install} support so that
 /var/lib/alsa/asound.state is moved back to /etc/ on a failed upgrade.
   + debian/prerm: New, support downgrading to versions of alsa-utils which
 store state in /etc/asound.state
 - alsamixer/alsamixer.1 via debian/patches/15_alsamixer_docfixes.dpatch:
   Fix documentation - the space key in alsamixer doesn't add or remove
   channels from the recording stream, it simply turns on recording for
   that channel and turns it off everywhere else. (Closes: #222431)
 - debian/menu: Use full path to /usr/sbin/su-to-root, as per lintian's
   suggestion.
 - debian/postinst: Call update-menus, thanks again to lintian for pointing
   that oversight out.
Files: 
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 25340be9ac46aab95ce929ebcd67b0ba 200621 sound optional alsa-utils_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
 1ff84fc78290afdaafb4f49eee86d09b 8982 sound optional alsa-utils_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
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  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
alsa-utils_1.0.3-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.3-1.dsc
alsa-utils_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
alsa-utils_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted alsa-oss 1.0.3a-1 (i386 source)

2004-03-05 Thread David B. Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:41:55 -0500
Source: alsa-oss
Binary: alsa-oss
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0.3a-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-oss   - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (OSS compatibility library)
Changes: 
 alsa-oss (1.0.3a-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version
   * David B. Harris:
 - Change my Uploaders: email address from my private address to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - debian/rules: Change location of aoss.1 to alsa/aoss.1
Files: 
 62ea694dc24552e1a4873dbac0e3aac2 1036 sound optional alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1.dsc
 7f5989645c6e71c46f8376ccc4fa3e21 216942 sound optional alsa-oss_1.0.3a.orig.tar.gz
 7bfb0211d7d2ec976baa458e629bddc8 15076 sound optional alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1.diff.gz
 d4eabcc1aa6a36d65c58ebae3e4e9a8f 42848 sound optional alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1_i386.deb

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alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-oss/alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1.diff.gz
alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-oss/alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1.dsc
alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-oss/alsa-oss_1.0.3a-1_i386.deb
alsa-oss_1.0.3a.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-oss/alsa-oss_1.0.3a.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted alsa-lib 1.0.3-1 (i386 source all)

2004-03-05 Thread David B. Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:40:10 -0500
Source: alsa-lib
Binary: libasound2-dev libasound2-plugins libasound2-doc libasound2
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 1.0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libasound2 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (libraries)
 libasound2-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (development)
 libasound2-doc - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (developer's documentation)
 libasound2-plugins - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (additional plugins)
Closes: 235954
Changes: 
 alsa-lib (1.0.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
 + works on exec-shield enabled kernels (Closes: #235954)
   * David B. Harris:
 + Change Maintainer: email address from my private address to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
 57331db83dc7dfff3ce6005dd216bc14 1176 libs optional alsa-lib_1.0.3-1.dsc
 3645c8b64775e31b0ec7a93877ad2ec0 786860 libs optional alsa-lib_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
 c8d3063e849cd9446f16741125727a5a 8538 libs optional alsa-lib_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
 8b1036e05e0b6c5829da2148f8367dd9 291908 libs optional libasound2_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
 e762da7526b97747ca5df3830760e3f0 417436 libdevel optional 
libasound2-dev_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
 d5e890ed1db55b49c784105fd126667a 15418 libs optional 
libasound2-plugins_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
 bf46612c9dc3d7284d6d6b12245e 368718 libdevel optional 
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alsa-lib_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
alsa-lib_1.0.3-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.3-1.dsc
alsa-lib_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
libasound2-dev_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-dev_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
libasound2-doc_1.0.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-doc_1.0.3-1_all.deb
libasound2-plugins_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-plugins_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
libasound2_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2_1.0.3-1_i386.deb


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Accepted alsa-driver 1.0.3-1 (all source)

2004-03-05 Thread David B. Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:49:38 -0500
Source: alsa-driver
Binary: alsa-source alsa-headers alsa-base
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-base  - ALSA sound driver common files
 alsa-headers - ALSA sound driver header files
 alsa-source - ALSA sound driver source
Closes: 233752 233974 234225 234233
Changes: 
 alsa-driver (1.0.3-1) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   * New upstream release
   * Jordi Mallach:
 - debian/control, debian/alsa-source.control: sync descriptions with
   alsa-lib's.
   * David B. Harris:
 - Re-disable the GCC version-check warning message, as we already check
   for this in debian/rules. I believe it got lost in the 1.0.2c-1 upload.
   It's just a cosmetic thing, as the logic to actually do the
   version-check was still disabled. (Closes: #234225)
 - Change my Uploaders: email address from my private address to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - debian/alsa-base.init: Produce a more helpful error message when
   'alsactl restore' fails. (Closes: #234233)
 - debian/control (alsa-base): Add version to alsa-utils dependency,
   1.0.2-2, so that the postinst's running of alsactl gets its state from
   the new location (/var/lib/alsa/asound.state)
 - debian/alsa-base.conf, debian/alsa-base.init: Add support to set the
   runlevels within which mixer settings will be saved (the same setting is
   also used to determine *from* which runlevels we'll be saving mixer
   settings). Now if you boot into single-user mode and reboot right from
   there, mixer settings won't be saved (so on your next boot you'll have
   your normal levels, not all-muted). (Closes: #233974)
 - Transition from /etc/modutils/alsa/0.9 to /etc/modutils/alsa/1.0
   (Closes: #233752):
   + debian/alsa-base.config: Use /etc/alsa/modutils/1.0 if it exists, and
 if it doesn't try to use /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9. Additionally, stop
 replacing /etc/modutils/alsa with a symlink if it's a non-symlink.
   + debian/alsa-base.examples, debian/modutils-0.9.conf: Move to
 modutils-1.0.conf
   + debian/alsa-base.postinst: Migrate /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 to
 /etc/alsa/modutils/1.0, if the latter doesn't exist. Update
 /etc/{modprobe.d,modutils}/alsa symlinks if and only if they point to
 0.9
   + debian/alsa-base.postrm: Remove /etc/{modprobe.d,modutils}/alsa and
 known conffiles /etc/alsa/modutils/ on purge
   + debian/alsa-base.README.Debian: Update
   + debian/alsa-source.README.Debian: Update
 - debian/alsa-common.templates: Remove extraneous , which would cause
   'harmony (PCI: Harmony/Vivace sound chip)' to show up as two options.
   Add two new chipsets, pc98-cs4232 and atiixp
 - debian/patches/10_disable_gcc_version_check{1,2}.dpatch: Sync with new
   upstream release
Files: 
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 df7a1eeed6e9574925738e5115cbfca1 2175930 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
 4f5a6051c767959b9d9770757945b746 82799 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
 120b54a4da30119b3ad9d0ac71933e6c 52092 sound optional alsa-base_1.0.3-1_all.deb
 c1d7b910bb278767ba6e3b56ec5f2d6e 1769588 sound optional alsa-source_1.0.3-1_all.deb
 1db08c76c519fd927af8a1473be9549d 55018 sound optional alsa-headers_1.0.3-1_all.deb

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alsa-base_1.0.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-base_1.0.3-1_all.deb
alsa-driver_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.3-1.diff.gz
alsa-driver_1.0.3-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.3-1.dsc
alsa-driver_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
alsa-headers_1.0.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-headers_1.0.3-1_all.deb
alsa-source_1.0.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.3-1_all.deb


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Accepted shaper 2.2.12-0.7.3-1 (i386 source all)

2004-02-27 Thread David B. Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 03:48:16 -0500
Source: shaper
Binary: shapecfg shaper
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 2.2.12-0.7.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 shapecfg   - Bandwidth limiter for virtual network interfaces
 shaper - Traffic shaper init script (cbq.init) for Linux
Closes: 228239
Changes: 
 shaper (2.2.12-0.7.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Unreleased
   * New upstream release of cbq.init (/etc/init.d/shaper)
   * Change Maintainer: email address from my private address to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   * Incorporate new pt_BR.po debconf translation. (Closes: #228239)
   * debian/po/ru.po: Fix missing msgid line (thanks Tollef and Joshua Kwan)
Files: 
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 56c7c53444d1de50f33bf06d242671d0 89178 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3.orig.tar.gz
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shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.3-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.3-1_i386.deb
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-1.diff.gz
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-1.dsc
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-1.dsc
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3-1_all.deb
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.3.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted ipband 0.7.2-3 (i386 source)

2004-02-26 Thread David B. Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 01:15:50 -0500
Source: ipband
Binary: ipband
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.7.2-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 ipband - daemon for subnet bandwidth monitoring with reporting via email
Changes: 
 ipband (0.7.2-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Change ipband's manpage section from 1 (Executable programs or shell
 commands) to 8 (System administration commands), and update all references
 to the manpage.
   * Fix bad grammar in /etc/default/ipband
   * Change urgency to medium; the bashism fixed in the last upload (which
 closed #231102) was a fairly serious problem.
   * Change Maintainer: email address from my private address to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
 630b7da06517348b3ab28e3891f116af 867 net optional ipband_0.7.2-3.dsc
 4b85076bec4a4c0c78d3c707b855d251 5724 net optional ipband_0.7.2-3.diff.gz
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Accepted:
ipband_0.7.2-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/i/ipband/ipband_0.7.2-3.diff.gz
ipband_0.7.2-3.dsc
  to pool/main/i/ipband/ipband_0.7.2-3.dsc
ipband_0.7.2-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/i/ipband/ipband_0.7.2-3_i386.deb


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Accepted gqmpeg 0.20.0-2 (i386 source)

2004-02-25 Thread David B. Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:43:31 -0500
Source: gqmpeg
Binary: gqmpeg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.20.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gqmpeg - a GTK+ front end to mpg321/mpg123 and ogg123
Closes: 231673
Changes: 
 gqmpeg (0.20.0-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * debian/control:
 - Build-Depend on libpng12-dev instead of libpng2-dev (Closes: #231673)
 - Change the Maintainer: email address I use to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Update Standards-Version to 3.6.1.0, no changes required
 - 'Recommends: aumix-gtk | x-audio-mixer' instead of hardcoded (and long)
   list of known X11-based audio mixers
   * debian/menu: quote X11 and Apps/Sound
Files: 
 9f270259b3cd2c2a609aeebf5d06797e 908 sound optional gqmpeg_0.20.0-2.dsc
 cdd06352e94a4d16ff60c41827c06ae5 16981 sound optional gqmpeg_0.20.0-2.diff.gz
 d1c94b58d0f9c962386660398fb3fb16 651138 sound optional gqmpeg_0.20.0-2_i386.deb

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Accepted:
gqmpeg_0.20.0-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.20.0-2.diff.gz
gqmpeg_0.20.0-2.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.20.0-2.dsc
gqmpeg_0.20.0-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.20.0-2_i386.deb


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Accepted alsa-driver 1.0.2c-3 (all source)

2004-02-16 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:56:54 -0500
Source: alsa-driver
Binary: alsa-source alsa-headers alsa-base
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0.2c-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-base  - ALSA sound driver common files
 alsa-headers - ALSA sound driver header files
 alsa-source - ALSA sound driver source
Closes: 232942
Changes: 
 alsa-driver (1.0.2c-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * David B. Harris:
 - Brown paper bag upload.
 - debian/alsa-common.templates:
   + Put module name where it's supposed to be, instead of a descriptive
 string. This broke debconf configuration for some people.
 (Closes: #232942)
Files: 
 2aa89f3686a988f842e6601b870d022a 803 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.2c-3.dsc
 30ddb68092963d1fef99ab50c289c72b 80335 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.2c-3.diff.gz
 dda96eb23cdfd93c74263289d33a1b0d 50648 sound optional alsa-base_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
 db1d5ea1dd5231bba40757959b432115 1764668 sound optional alsa-source_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
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Accepted:
alsa-base_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-base_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
alsa-driver_1.0.2c-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.2c-3.diff.gz
alsa-driver_1.0.2c-3.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.2c-3.dsc
alsa-headers_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-headers_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
alsa-source_1.0.2c-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.2c-3_all.deb


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Accepted alsa-driver 1.0.2c-2 (all source)

2004-02-14 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:34:41 -0500
Source: alsa-driver
Binary: alsa-source alsa-headers alsa-base
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0.2c-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-base  - ALSA sound driver common files
 alsa-headers - ALSA sound driver header files
 alsa-source - ALSA sound driver source
Changes: 
 alsa-driver (1.0.2c-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Update debconf cardlist:
 - Add usb-usx2y (Tascam US-122 and US-428)
 - Add bt87x (Bt878/Bt879 TV card audio)
 - Add harmony (Harmony/Vivace sound chip)
 - Add hdspm  (RME HDSP MADI board)
 - Add intel8x0m (Intel i8x0 software modem thing)
Files: 
 400ce381888298657b000806b2605be8 803 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.2c-2.dsc
 fa120a1b28191c6ad6a2c693e4de8e3d 80223 sound optional alsa-driver_1.0.2c-2.diff.gz
 dbb6364dd9a73296894c5ee1c263d751 50548 sound optional alsa-base_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
 6b641e742da1f61e12b5322f4f805def 1764586 sound optional alsa-source_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
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Accepted:
alsa-base_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-base_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
alsa-driver_1.0.2c-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.2c-2.diff.gz
alsa-driver_1.0.2c-2.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-driver_1.0.2c-2.dsc
alsa-headers_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-headers_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
alsa-source_1.0.2c-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.2c-2_all.deb


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Accepted ipband 0.7.2-2 (i386 source)

2004-02-04 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:05:12 -0500
Source: ipband
Binary: ipband
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.7.2-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 ipband - daemon for subnet bandwidth monitoring with reporting via email
Closes: 156212 231102
Changes: 
 ipband (0.7.2-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Maintainer upload (Closes: #156212)
   * Update maintainer email address
   * debian/ipband.init: Fix bashism (Closes: #231102)
   * Update to Standards-Version 3.6.1.0 (new $DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS stuff)
 + Support $DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt and ensure -g is always used.
 + Ensure that initscript always starts the deamon on restart
   (previously, it did '$0 stop' and '$0 start' on restart; now it does
   '$0 stop || true' and '$0 start')
Files: 
 601622b8ba0b373f98407335beafaf2e 574 net optional ipband_0.7.2-2.dsc
 b23bc2996aa61aa4b1b79acfd4c14668 5414 net optional ipband_0.7.2-2.diff.gz
 b516729987e7979ddb0355097617422e 27056 net optional ipband_0.7.2-2_i386.deb

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Accepted:
ipband_0.7.2-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/i/ipband/ipband_0.7.2-2.diff.gz
ipband_0.7.2-2.dsc
  to pool/main/i/ipband/ipband_0.7.2-2.dsc
ipband_0.7.2-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/i/ipband/ipband_0.7.2-2_i386.deb


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Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 03:18:53 +
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Langasek wrote:
 But an ssh key on removable media is not vulnerable to keysniffing
 alone, where a password is.
 
 If such behaviour becomes common, the keysniffers will simply copy
 anything that looks like an SSH key that exists on an item of removable
 media. There's no inherent increase in security from using a key on a
 USB device other than the fact that attackers aren't thinking about that
 yet.

The old security through obscurity idea, eh? Well, if you *rely* on
obscurity for your security (ie: if an attacker has free reign if they
know the secret you're trying to keep [in this case, that the SSH key is
on USB media]), then sure, there's a problem. It's not a problem,
however, if it's only *part* of a security regimen.

For instance, I'll ask a simple question: does the hacker who installed
the hardware keylogger on my machine know that my SSH key is somewhere
unusual? Do they even know about SSH keys? If either of those answers is
no, I have effectively averted a compromise, whereas even if they
*didn't* know, but I didn't use an SSH key, they'd have effective
control of my machine.

Some food for thought. Obscurity != security, but I've yet to see any
effective security regimen which did *not* include some obscurity
factors. I've also yet to see anybody post their IP address, userid, and
password for their publicly-accessible servers to a public mailing list
:)




Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:38:25 -0500
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David B Harris wrote:
  I've also yet to see anybody post their IP address, userid, and
  password for their publicly-accessible servers to a public mailing list
  :)
 
 I have. root, even.
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200206/msg01187.html

*THEIR* IP address, userid, and password. As opposed to a carefully
sandboxed userid and environment.

Or are you saying that you used [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your
computing needs, including storing your unencrypted GPG, unencrypted SSH
key (or encrypted, in which case both of which use the passwords you've
posted), your email client, your web browsing, your programming, your
work, and what have you? :)




Re: [custom] Debian Enterprise - packages

2003-12-02 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:49:20 -0600
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First of all.  This is obviously not a Debian project (since it is not
 operating within the Debian framework.)  I don't see why this then
 necessitates over a dozen threads on debian-devel -- AND why it gets to
 call itself Debian.

Amen, brother.




Re: [debian enterprise] sub-project planning

2003-12-01 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:12:52 -0500
Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have discussed this sub-project extensively at Voxel, and we are
 willing to commit to seeing this idea through - in a manner that allows
 the Debian community to benefit from resources that we put into it. We
 are willing to provide developmental resources (Voxel is more than
 willing to pay me to head up this sub-project), hardware, legal
 resources, bandwidth, and hosting, with development happening under the
 Debian moniker.  We are also researching the possibility of 24/7
 commercial support for enterprise clients, as that is a large part of
 what companies want (both for technical support, as well as someone to
 blame when something goes wrong).

Up until this portion of the email, I was thinking, oh yeah, this
sounds good, and get a big company involved too - like HP or IBM.

Any thoughts on that? Anybody from HP or IBM here want to weigh in?

P.S.: I'm willing to put work into the debix/FAI-type stuff.




Re: Debian Enterprise - a Custom Debian Distribution

2003-12-01 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:45:35 -0800
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am still negotiating with the large industry group that approached me 
 about this project. When the price tag is north of $1M, it takes time. 
 If that works out, they would fund 3-5 engineers full-time, plus myself 
 and an admin to work on the aspects of this project that are important 
 to their industry group. And only their industry group. Thus, there is 
 room for participation of a number of vendors and/or industry groups, as 
 well as direct participation by all of the various entities that would 
 participate in Debian.

Are you still on good terms with some people at HP? I don't even think
we need funding, per se. I wouldn't mind getting paid well for the work
I do, but that's a rarity. (Why does money always need to get involved?)

What I'd really like to see is a company providing input, serving as a
central point for customer contact, and above all, actually
*supporting* the use of the end-product. ie: not being hostile to users
who run it, as is so often the case these days. I can't count the number
of times I've heard horror stories from HP customers (and other vendors
as well) about people being unable to RMA hardware because they're using
a decent software bundle that they're familiar with and can maintain, as
opposed to whatever outdated and bastardised crap was included with the
hardware.

Okay, that sort of turned into a rant :) I do apologise, but I'd
desperately like to help dispell the stigma that's associated with
anything non-Red Hat.




Re: [debian enterprise] sub-project planning

2003-12-01 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 06:27:12 +1100
Zenaan Harkness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Any thoughts on that? Anybody from HP or IBM here want to weigh in?
 
 My primary thought wrt making money from Free Software - make as much as
 we possibly can - at least that's my goal, so that I can provide for
 myself and my family, and (in the future) work on more Free Software
 projects.

My goals are only to provide something that and end-user can use without
having their vendor tell them they're on their own, no RMAs, no hardware
support, nothing.




Re: Debian Enterprise - a Custom Debian Distribution

2003-12-01 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:53:02 -0800
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you still on good terms with some people at HP?
 
 Yes. Has anyone discussed this with Bdale?

He hasn't participated in the thread yet.

 I wouldn't mind getting paid well for the work
 I do, but that's a rarity. (Why does money always need to get involved?)
   
snip
 I admire those who don't have to consider money while fulfilling all 
 three of the above goals.

I meant more specifically, when corporate involvement is discussed :)
There's lots of other things companies can do without writing cheques.

 What I'd really like to see is a company providing input, serving as a
 central point for customer contact, and above all, actually
 *supporting* the use of the end-product. ie: not being hostile to users
 who run it, as is so often the case these days.
 
 Yes, but let me add something. I think we will have failed if there is 
 only one company doing this. No lock-ins, no lack of choices, please. 
 That's one of the things wrong with RH/Fedora.
 
 And I think I have the structure to make this work. I'm writing now, 
 should have something for you later today.

Sorry, yeah. I should instead have said *their* company, not any one
company. The company they buy their hardware and support from. In my
mind, HP and IBM are paramount, since they also happen to be the only
two major suppliers for the shop I work in :)




Accepted alsa-lib 0.9.8-1 (i386 source all)

2003-11-14 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:54:11 +0100
Source: alsa-lib
Binary: libasound2-dev libasound2-plugins libasound2-doc libasound2
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 0.9.8-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libasound2 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (libraries)
 libasound2-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (development)
 libasound2-doc - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (developer's documentation)
 libasound2-plugins - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (additional plugins)
Changes: 
 alsa-lib (0.9.8-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * David B Harris:
 + Bump shlibs requirement, as new symbols have been added
Files: 
 311e0176de1a0bf75de432105ed9fc73 863 libs optional alsa-lib_0.9.8-1.dsc
 dbe9edd1d5251d272e7745775143bcab 742852 libs optional alsa-lib_0.9.8.orig.tar.gz
 c026c6644749b623af204e08b9e6ded5 7240 libs optional alsa-lib_0.9.8-1.diff.gz
 f027a9a79a111add962dc12a6ff75cd0 277786 libs optional libasound2_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
 e0802ae579516659d8415489df110a3e 402072 libdevel optional 
libasound2-dev_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
 8552819ccc058bf679c5bd32f43352e1 15284 libs optional 
libasound2-plugins_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
 1002a3a3632792a3e32eae1e45776400 365318 libdevel optional 
libasound2-doc_0.9.8-1_all.deb

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Accepted:
alsa-lib_0.9.8-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_0.9.8-1.diff.gz
alsa-lib_0.9.8-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_0.9.8-1.dsc
alsa-lib_0.9.8.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_0.9.8.orig.tar.gz
libasound2-dev_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-dev_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
libasound2-doc_0.9.8-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-doc_0.9.8-1_all.deb
libasound2-plugins_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2-plugins_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
libasound2_0.9.8-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2_0.9.8-1_i386.deb


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Accepted shaper 2.2.12-0.7.1-2 (i386 source all)

2003-11-14 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:33:12 -0400
Source: shaper
Binary: shapecfg shaper
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 2.2.12-0.7.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 shapecfg   - Bandwidth limiter for virtual network interfaces
 shaper - Traffic shaper init script (cbq.init) for Linux
Closes: 210725 211638 212473 213401 219266
Changes: 
 shaper (2.2.12-0.7.1-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * /etc/init.d/shaper (cbq.init): Change 'exit 1' to 'exit 0' for the case
 where there are no configuration files, apparently a fair number of people
 don't have any.
 (Closes: #210725, #213401)
   * Only attempt to load modules if /proc/modules exists (ie: if the kernel is
 modular). (Closes: #212473)
   * Update translations:
 + ru.po (Closes: #219266)
 + fr.po (Closes: #211638)
   * Added Dutch translation.
Files: 
 adaee87c012d7bd2d778661592944ab2 594 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2.dsc
 e1536cbf4b594cffd26229027613c230 12430 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2.diff.gz
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  to pool/main/s/shaper/shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.1-2_i386.deb
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2.diff.gz
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2.dsc
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2.dsc
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2_all.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-2_all.deb


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Re: Pre-Depends for postgresql

2003-10-18 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 02:18:00 +0100
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Uid 31 is reserved forever (speaking as the base-passwd maintainer), but
 new installations of postgresql should have a uid in the system range,
 namely 100-999, as created by 'adduser --system'. See the changelog for
 base-passwd 3.5.0.

What for, out of curiosity? Just part of the standard range of 0-99?


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Re: Bug#215103: ITP: gmasqdialer -- gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server

2003-10-13 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:02:47 -0400
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David B Harris wrote:
 
  As much as you may dislike it, people care about toolkit. I don't
  understand the witch-hunt to remove references to such things.
 
 Short description is a limited resource. By all means, put GTK or GNOME 
 in the long description if it is deemed necessary; apt searches will 
 still find what you're looking for.

Obviously if the short description is too long, something needs to go -
and in that case, certainly not mentioning the toolkit is reasonable.
However, in this particular case (gtk/gnome client for masqdialer
server, but really gnome client for masqdialer since the gtk is
assumed when talking about GNOME) is 35 characters long.

If you think 35 characters is too long, feel free to start filing
thousands and thousands of bugs on all the other packages, suggesting
that they remove little bits and pieces.


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Re: Bug#215103: ITP: gmasqdialer -- gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server

2003-10-13 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:44:57 -0400
David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Obviously if the short description is too long, something needs to go -
 and in that case, certainly not mentioning the toolkit is reasonable.
 However, in this particular case (gtk/gnome client for masqdialer
 server, but really gnome client for masqdialer since the gtk is
 assumed when talking about GNOME) is 35 characters long.
 
 If you think 35 characters is too long, feel free to start filing
 thousands and thousands of bugs on all the other packages, suggesting
 that they remove little bits and pieces.

(And if you don't, please don't bother people about it - instead file a
bug on Policy asking for the short description guidelines to
specifically say do not mention the application's toolkit.)


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Re: Bug#215103: ITP: gmasqdialer -- gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server

2003-10-11 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:23 -0400
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Description : gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server
 
 How about client for masqdialer?
 
  
  From the freshmeat description:
   GMasqdialer provides a GNOME/GTK client for the Masqdialer system. The
 
 Which is it, GTK only or GNOME?

As much as you may dislike it, people care about toolkit. I don't
understand the witch-hunt to remove references to such things.

(Though I do agree that GNOME/GTK could easily be shortened to
GNOME.)


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Re: Ideas about allowing Co-maintainer

2003-10-05 Thread David B Harris
On 05 Oct 2003 13:13:55 +0200
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is no point for me working on those bugs if the patches will
 just rod in the bts or be thrown out so as not to differ from
 upstream. As I said before I won't work on the debian package again
 without an assurance by the maintainer that he will look at it.

I've occasionally helped out with util-linux, and I must say that
Debian's util-linux is already markedly different from upstream's, and
this isn't a good thing.

It's already bitten people once; for instance, it's unlikely that
cryptoloop volumes created with Debian's util-linux will work on other
machines (the passphrase is hashed before use in Debian's util-linux,
and I don't believe it's done elsewhere.)

As others have suggested, if you have fixes to upstream bugs, the best
place to send them is to upstream.

Failing that, you can always file them in the BTS and forward them
upstream yourself.


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Re: apt-proxy/wget/squid caches file indefinitely

2003-09-26 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:11:37 +1000
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, this is driving me bananas. I go to download the latest
 unstable packages, only to find that apt-get update
 has just retrieved a cached copy of the Packages file that
 (in some cases) can be a month old.

I've seen similar a while ago, but I didn't bother tracking it down.
I'll try to reproduce it again, an d I'll let you know if I'm able to
fix it.


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Accepted gmrun 0.9.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-09-07 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:13:48 -0400
Source: gmrun
Binary: gmrun
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.9.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gmrun  - Featureful CLI-like GTK+ application launcher
Closes: 186134 198539 203939 204714
Changes: 
 gmrun (0.9.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
 + %s and %u are expanded as many times as necessary in URL handlers
   (Closes: #203939)
 + Upstream fix for hitting 'e' when gmrun starts deselects the text and
   doesn't insert 'e' (Closes: #186134)
 + Upstream fix to make sure that ~/.gmrun_history is only created when
   History is  0 (Closes: #204714)
   * src/main.cc: Fix running comlex commands (ie: commands with spaces or
 other such things in them) with a terminal emulator
   * config/gmrunrc: Use x-www-browser as the default http handler, now that
 it's available. Used to be gnome-moz-remote (Closes: #198539)
   * debian/control:
 + Upstream now develops with GTK2, replace libgtk1.2-dev with
   libgtk2.0-dev in Build-Depends
 + Bump Standards-Version to 3.6.1.0, no changes required
Files: 
 f3af5870b73e0cdd2fe3000faaed631d 573 x11 optional gmrun_0.9.1-1.dsc
 e7789596f07b2ff628047a418fc63636 98201 x11 optional gmrun_0.9.1.orig.tar.gz
 20e50c11adceb7fd7a9c67357e036c09 27623 x11 optional gmrun_0.9.1-1.diff.gz
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gmrun_0.9.1-1.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.9.1-1.dsc
gmrun_0.9.1-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.9.1-1_i386.deb
gmrun_0.9.1.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.9.1.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted snac 0.3-4 (i386 source)

2003-09-07 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:38:24 -0400
Source: snac
Binary: snac
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 snac   - complete algebraic calculator for GNOME
Closes: 201956
Changes: 
 snac (0.3-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Changed section to `gnome'
   * debian/compat: Added (value is 3)
   * debian/rules: dpatchify source
   * debian/patches/10_libtool_update (added):
 + Update libtool (Closes: #201956)
   * debian/control: Update to Standards-Version 3.6.1.0, with changes to the
 extended description
Files: 
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 e713dad167db0538021cc9f09ab6cf78 298117 gnome optional snac_0.3-4.diff.gz
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snac_0.3-4.dsc
  to pool/main/s/snac/snac_0.3-4.dsc
snac_0.3-4_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/snac/snac_0.3-4_i386.deb


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Accepted sopwith 1.7.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-09-07 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:28:46 -0400
Source: sopwith
Binary: sopwith
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.7.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sopwith- port of the 1980's side-scrolling WWI dogfighting game
Closes: 186898 206251
Changes: 
 sopwith (1.7.1-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release (Closes: #206251)
 + Upstream now allows the use of Left/Right arrow keys to control the
   plane, in addition to the traditional / and , (Closes: #186898)
   * debian/patches/00list:
 + Remove 90_ctrlkeyfix, which has been integrated upstream
   * debian/control:
 + Bump Standards-Version to 3.6.1.0, no changes required
 + Add pkg-config and libgtk2.0-dev to Build-Depends, as upstream requires
Files: 
 1849aeee98dd7a2ab1373100cf4f22c0 638 games optional sopwith_1.7.1-1.dsc
 cc0431d3c0c506852ebe2c82db20a985 175323 games optional sopwith_1.7.1.orig.tar.gz
 ffbd61a247751521b0e2415e16f24c89 24971 games optional sopwith_1.7.1-1.diff.gz
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  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1-1.diff.gz
sopwith_1.7.1-1.dsc
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1-1.dsc
sopwith_1.7.1-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1-1_i386.deb
sopwith_1.7.1.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.7.1.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted shaper 2.2.12-0.7.1-1 (i386 source all)

2003-09-06 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:02:32 -0400
Source: shaper
Binary: shapecfg shaper
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 2.2.12-0.7.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 shapecfg   - Bandwidth limiter for virtual network interfaces
 shaper - Traffic shaper init script (cbq.init) for Linux
Closes: 163816 197060 202548 202850
Changes: 
 shaper (2.2.12-0.7.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release of cbq.init (shaper package)
   * cbq.init:
 + Check for existence of configuration files before we attempt to load
   modules that may not be needed (Closes: #163816)
 + Add support for /etc/default/shaper to allow overriding some basic
   variables (Closes: #197060)
   * debian/shapecfg.8: Refer to /usr/share/doc/shapecfg instead of
 /usr/share/doc/shaper (Closes: #202850)
   * Clarify descriptions and debian/copyright, with respect to what shaper
 actually is, and where it comes from (thank a bunch, Joey Hess :)
   * Switch to po-debconf (thanks to the translation guys for the patch :)
 (Closes: #202548)
   * Update to Standards-Version 3.6.1.0, with minor adjustments in
 DEB_BUILD_OPTS handling
Files: 
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 edf3af0c8ccb9ba9e0403d167a02cefe 88758 net extra shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1.orig.tar.gz
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Accepted:
shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.1-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shapecfg_2.2.12-0.7.1-1_i386.deb
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-1.diff.gz
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-1.dsc
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-1.dsc
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1-1_all.deb
shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7.1.orig.tar.gz


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Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-05 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0400
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This clause has a direct effect on all users,
 restricting the use of e.g. encrypted filesystems.
 
 That's a new one on me.  I don't think the GFDL restricts
 the use of encrypted filesystems.

I have mentioned it at least a half-dozen times myself, and at least
once to you explicitly. (I believe you also responded to that mail,
though not addressing the point in question.)

As Jamin mentions, in section 2:

You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the reading
or further copying of the copies you make or distribute.

I'll also mention the first half of the sentence of section 4:

You may copy and distribute a Modified Version of the Document under
the conditions of sections 2 and 3 above ...

Please don't think that I'm quoting that out-of-context. I assume that
anybody who will respond to this message has read the GFDL as fully as I
have, and will instead point out other sections or clauses which render
the above sentence irrelevant (I wasn't able to find any myself, and I
looked quite hard).

Taken literally (ie: should a copyright holder take a distributor to
court over this point), the clause forbids _anything_ which might
obstruct the reading or futher copying of the copies you make or
distribute. Thus, we may not host the GFDL document on a
password-protected portion of a web site. Nor may we use SSL to transmit
any of the text. Nor may we store any text on an encrypted filesystem.
An anonymous FTP server that requires USER and PASS would also fall into
this category (regardless of whether the USER is anonymous or not).

I've asked a couple of lawyers, and they strongly feel that a case could
be made (though not so clear-cut as the above examples) for copying the
document to a place that's already protected in some form (a $HOME
that's not world-readable for instance, or on a machine that has a
firewall), or distributing the document in a format that may be
extraordinarily well-documented and not patent-encumbered, but for which
the only reader implementation is non-Free.

To RMS specifically: I have always assumed that this was simply a bug in
the license, but it _has_ been brought up a lot, by myself as well as
others, sometimes in messages you replied to. Now that you've noticed
the point in question, I'm trying to present the rationale for the
conclusion. It's not meant in a combatitive manner, nor is it meant as a
personal attack against yourself. If for whatever reason somebody
interprets as either of the above, I apologise and will correct that
person if they're pointed out to me.


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Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-05 Thread David B Harris
Sorry folks, I CC'd: -devel instead of -legal. God I hate Reply-To:s :)

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:03:59 -0400
David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0400
 Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This clause has a direct effect on all users,
  restricting the use of e.g. encrypted filesystems.
  
  That's a new one on me.  I don't think the GFDL restricts
  the use of encrypted filesystems.
 
 I have mentioned it at least a half-dozen times myself, and at least
 once to you explicitly. (I believe you also responded to that mail,
 though not addressing the point in question.)
 
 As Jamin mentions, in section 2:
 
 You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the reading
 or further copying of the copies you make or distribute.
 
 I'll also mention the first half of the sentence of section 4:
 
 You may copy and distribute a Modified Version of the Document under
 the conditions of sections 2 and 3 above ...
 
 Please don't think that I'm quoting that out-of-context. I assume that
 anybody who will respond to this message has read the GFDL as fully as I
 have, and will instead point out other sections or clauses which render
 the above sentence irrelevant (I wasn't able to find any myself, and I
 looked quite hard).
 
 Taken literally (ie: should a copyright holder take a distributor to
 court over this point), the clause forbids _anything_ which might
 obstruct the reading or futher copying of the copies you make or
 distribute. Thus, we may not host the GFDL document on a
 password-protected portion of a web site. Nor may we use SSL to transmit
 any of the text. Nor may we store any text on an encrypted filesystem.
 An anonymous FTP server that requires USER and PASS would also fall into
 this category (regardless of whether the USER is anonymous or not).
 
 I've asked a couple of lawyers, and they strongly feel that a case could
 be made (though not so clear-cut as the above examples) for copying the
 document to a place that's already protected in some form (a $HOME
 that's not world-readable for instance, or on a machine that has a
 firewall), or distributing the document in a format that may be
 extraordinarily well-documented and not patent-encumbered, but for which
 the only reader implementation is non-Free.
 
 To RMS specifically: I have always assumed that this was simply a bug in
 the license, but it _has_ been brought up a lot, by myself as well as
 others, sometimes in messages you replied to. Now that you've noticed
 the point in question, I'm trying to present the rationale for the
 conclusion. It's not meant in a combatitive manner, nor is it meant as a
 personal attack against yourself. If for whatever reason somebody
 interprets as either of the above, I apologise and will correct that
 person if they're pointed out to me.
 


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Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers

2003-08-30 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:42:06 +0800
Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bdale ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian
 Bdale developers, sponsored by HP...
 
 Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions /
 protected proprietary information / trade secrets / etc. whatever.
 
 Bdale If you are a Debian developer and want full LWN access, go to
 Bdale lwn.net and create an account for yourself (no money is
 Bdale required...
 
 But the Debian developer cannot disclose the information seen with non
 Debian developers.

Jealous? :)


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Accepted alsa-lib 0.9.6-1 (i386 source all)

2003-08-26 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:19:26 +0200
Source: alsa-lib
Binary: libasound2-dev libasound2-plugins libasound2-doc libasound2
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 0.9.6-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libasound2 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (libraries)
 libasound2-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (development)
 libasound2-doc - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (developer's documentation)
 libasound2-plugins - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (additional plugins)
Closes: 199389
Changes: 
 alsa-lib (0.9.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * David B. Harris
 + Import new upstream version to our CVS tree
 + Remove outdated Suggests: alsadriver. alsadriver doesn't exist any more,
   and nothing Provides: it. (Closes: #199389)
Files: 
 a9feb2c37aa1eb2f9f03bd2930566d1b 863 libs optional alsa-lib_0.9.6-1.dsc
 e74252e78722769dd02c9aa2632ec0f2 717190 libs optional alsa-lib_0.9.6.orig.tar.gz
 30cb420a9f37d33923544580e639111a 6759 libs optional alsa-lib_0.9.6-1.diff.gz
 151591e3c013344fae4041eb4960132e 251060 libs optional libasound2_0.9.6-1_i386.deb
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alsa-lib_0.9.6-1.dsc
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alsa-lib_0.9.6.orig.tar.gz
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libasound2-dev_0.9.6-1_i386.deb
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libasound2-doc_0.9.6-1_all.deb
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libasound2-plugins_0.9.6-1_i386.deb
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libasound2_0.9.6-1_i386.deb
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Accepted alsa-utils 0.9.6-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-26 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:39:49 +0200
Source: alsa-utils
Binary: alsa-utils
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.9.6-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian-Alsa Psychos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 alsa-utils - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (utils)
Changes: 
 alsa-utils (0.9.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * David B. Harris:
 + Import new upstream version to our CVS tree.
Files: 
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 2ec2b899603d08ff175f532145e4f204 138314 sound optional alsa-utils_0.9.6.orig.tar.gz
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alsa-utils_0.9.6-1.dsc
  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_0.9.6-1.dsc
alsa-utils_0.9.6-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_0.9.6-1_i386.deb
alsa-utils_0.9.6.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_0.9.6.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted dpatch 1.24 (all source)

2003-08-03 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun,  3 Aug 2003 06:42:42 -0400
Source: dpatch
Binary: dpatch
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.24
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dpatch - patch maintenance system for Debian source packages
Closes: 203968
Changes: 
 dpatch (1.24) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * David B Harris:
 - Revert broken @DPATCH@ preservation behaviour, which was introduced by
   a submitted patch some time ago. Thanks to Eduard Bloch for pointing
   it out. (Closes: #203968)
Files: 
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 f1ff5238b3e3a7faf49272196691f1f1 22235 devel optional dpatch_1.24.tar.gz
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  to pool/main/d/dpatch/dpatch_1.24.dsc
dpatch_1.24.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dpatch/dpatch_1.24.tar.gz
dpatch_1.24_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dpatch/dpatch_1.24_all.deb


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Re: Bug#203046: RFA: doc-linux -- Linux HOWTOs and FAQs

2003-07-27 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:47:06 +0100
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Harris has expressed an interest in this job, and I've talked to
 him about it on IRC, so if he still wants it he's welcome. If anyone
 else is interested, then contact me: a small team would be a good idea
 anyway.

I'll wait and see if anybody else, perhaps more suitable, will
volounteer to be the primary maintainer before considering taking on a
package this large. I'd have to think about it at any rate.

I'd also be more comfortable in a team environment, I find that more
work gets done that way.

P.S.: The packages look to be in great shape now, so either way, thanks
for the work :)


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Re: new credit printing mechanism now present in reiserfsprogs

2003-07-23 Thread David B Harris
(That's a really long recipient list - does this need only go to
reiserfs-list@namesys.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED])

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:45:09 +0400
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it now prints two random credits rather than all of them, and credits 
 for the developers are in place.  suggestions about how to improve this 
 while preserving the credits (e.g. printing them at a different stage of 
 mkreiserfs, etc.) are welcome.

If mkreiserfs was slower, I would suggest printing them at the start of
the program. It gives people something to read while they're waiting for
it to finish. (They would probably be more likely to read it, too.)

It takes less than 4 seconds on a regular file of 410M here, though, so
that's not a whole lot of time. Does it take longer on bigger
filesystems? Lots of people are making many-gigabyte filesystems these
days, so perhaps that really is a good idea.



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Re: default MTA for sarge

2003-07-13 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:31:51 +0200
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For sarge we have two options for the default MTA in base:
 
 a. replace exim with exim4
 b. no MTA installed by default, add a MTA task
 
 So do we want there to be a MTA by default?

I would opt for a) personally. Exim has done me well for years, and
exim-config (or its debconf-based replacement) is great.

However, if b) is chosen ... doesn't this cry for a category, not a
task? Or perhaps even a one-off frontend that lets one select from the
list of 'grep-available -FProvides -sPackage mail-transport-agent'?


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Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-07-08 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:11:13 +0200
Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:36:22PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote:
 
  General
  Debian
  1 project
 10 architectures
100 countries
   1000 maintainers
  1 packages
 10 bug fixed
100 million users
   1000 installations
 
 I would recommend to exchange these last two lines. More installations
 than users?

I'm a single Debian user, and I maintain about a dozen Debian boxen.
(And when I say maintain, I mean they do various things for me, the
sysadmin, and I'm the closest thing to a user for them that exists.) So
the 10:1 ratio is approximately accurate, at least here. It's a common
demographic for Debian I believe.


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Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-08 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:48:48 +1200
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:46:47AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
  Le mar 08/07/2003 ? 01:15, Matt Zimmerman a ?crit :
All that's missing is an automatic debconf notice entry for each NEWS
item.

That wud be well c00l.
   
   As I recall, part of the idea of NEWS.Debian was to prevent having this 
   kind
   of information end up as debconf notes.
  
  But some people like to have this information in debconf notes. Having
  the choice between displaying them and reading them in NEWS.Debian would
  be neat.
 
 He was JOKING... wasn't he?

I doubt it. Some people have few enough packages installed that a nice
pretty interface like that is reasonable.

Keep in mind that debconf notes weren't implemented to piss people off -
they were implemented because they can be used well. They're overused
and overabused, but they're a valid presentation mechanism ... under the
right circumstances :)


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Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-06 Thread David B Harris
On Sun Jul 06, 04:58pm -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 04:31:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
   Would this work just as well?
   [example without distribution and urgency]
  
  It would work just as well.  The changelog format was used unmodified for
  purposes of simplicity.  Tools already know how to parse it, and its format
  is already reasonably specified in the documentation.
 
 To clarify, I meant that such a format would meet the need of NEWS.Debian.
 However, the existing tools would not understand it.
 
 I do not see the extra unused information as a problem, and it lets us use
 existing tools for creating and editing NEWS.Debian (debchange, dpkg-dev-el,
 etc.)

If you can make apt-listchanges understand the pared-down format,
perhaps the others will support it eventually too.

I don't care a whole lot about it myself, but it *does* look a lot nicer
:)




Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-04 Thread David B Harris
On 03 Jul 2003 23:45:56 -0500
Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 15:19, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
  Cameron Patrick wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:36:48PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
   | Well, once you folks have come up with a definition of software, you
   | be sure and let us know.
   How about anything included in Debian?  That way we won't be in danger
   of violating the Social Contract #1.
  
  Oh, cool. How about changing in DFSG to Anything that can go in main or 
  contrib.
 
 Because that's a circular definition. Saying everything in Debian is
 software, is not.
 
 It's also the only reasonable way to define software. Or at least, the
 only reasonable way I (or anyone else who has voiced their opinion on
 this issue here) have come up with in 3 years, and it's not for a lack
 of trying.

The assumption in his suggestion was that it would no longer be the
Debian Free Software Guidelines, but the Debian Free main/contrib
Guidelines. ie: if it's going to go into main or contrib, it needs to
meet the guidelines.

Except for the title, the DFSG is very content-agnostic. It can be
applied equally well to software, fiction, nonfiction, images, what have
you.


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Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread David B Harris
On 03 Jul 2003 13:00:47 +0200
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña]
  (For those who are not aware of this issue, please read #92810)
 
 There seem to be someone believing that standard documents should be
 treated as software.  Standards are not software.  Standards do not
 improve if everyone is allowed to modify them and publish the modified
 version as an updated version of the standard.  Standards get their
 value from having a rigid procedure for updates and modifications.
 Software do not.
 
 I believe this whole case of RFC standards are not confirming to The
 Debian Free Software Guidelines display a complete lack of
 understanding of the value of standards, and should be rejected.
 Standards are not software, nor software manuals, and should not be
 treated as such.
 
 I haven't been following this case, and understand it might be late to
 speak up against it, but believe it is about time the whole case is
 stopped.

#92810 specifically deals with whether the RFCs should be in main or
non-free. They are not freely modifiable, so they should not be in main
- end of story, regardless of whether it's a good thing or a bad thing.

I happen to agree with your thoughts (if not the phrasing and tone), and
agree that standards by their nature can't be both Free and effective.
But they're no less effective in non-free, so just relax :)


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Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-07-01 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:57 +0200
Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think ports to other kernels are generally worthwhile in and of
  themselves, simply for cleaning up the codebase and getting rid of
  unportable stuff.
  
  It's just plain old healthy is all. The previous comment about it was
  just meant in an informative manner is all. (I've never heard of a
  Turbochannel machine either, so I won't bother looking into it.)
 
 TurboChannel is a 32bit bus system used in Digital Equipment systems like
 the MIPS-based DECstation series and the Alpha-based DEC 3000 series. The
 former (at least some models) is supported by Linux/MIPS (and Debian/MIPS)
 as well as by NetBSD/OpenBSD, the latter is only supported by *BSD.

Thanks :)


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Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-30 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:53:56 -0600
Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No it doesn't. I've yet to even hear of an architecture that NetBSD runs
  on but which Linux doesn't. They just have a different definition of
  architecture than us. (ie: our hppa may be three or four arches to
  the NetBSD kernel folk.)
 
 There are a couple. I don't think most people care about any of them,
 right now (and quite possibly never will, in the case of old VAXen,
 for example).

There's a working VAX port including a relatively complete driver set,
at least, so that's not one. :) But, regardless;

 In discussing it the other day, I actually found a concise way to
 express one of the major reasons I choose to work on the port and find
 it worthwhile:

I think ports to other kernels are generally worthwhile in and of
themselves, simply for cleaning up the codebase and getting rid of
unportable stuff.

It's just plain old healthy is all. The previous comment about it was
just meant in an informative manner is all. (I've never heard of a
Turbochannel machine either, so I won't bother looking into it.)


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Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-06-30 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:57:55 +0800
Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gentlemen, after I installed Debian GNU/Linux, I found I had to take
 extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as some
 other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
 
 So what is the single command to apt-get install all the GNU versions
 of everything?
 
 Last year I discovered mawk sitting there until I banished it away with
 apt-get install gawk.
 
 Yesterday I realized I had been using mailx all this time while GNU's
 mailutils were sitting unused.
 
 Do I look in Packages.gz for Conflicts:, and then look in Description:
 for this is the GNU version of...?
 
 What other other leading brands programs are sitting on my computer
 when I could have been using a genuine GNU program?
 
 What genuine GNU programs should I defer, lest e.g. messages get trunc

A fair numbe rof those apps you probably want were implemented in Debian
before GNU made their own versions - install-info(8) is one of the ones
most often griped about. I believe which(1) is another case.

Regardless, having a gnu task is perfectly reasonable as far as I'm
concerned - just wanted to point out that it isn't necessarily
maliciousness or even a judgement call so much as things just *weren't
there* :)


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Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-26 Thread David B Harris
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:04:54 -0500
Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And not only 80386 needs this - There is the Sparc64 port which would
 also benefit from this (http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/#64bit). If we
 had support for subarchtectures, not only would the ix86 mess be able to
 be split in many flavors (i.e. strict 386, 486 and up, 686, or whatever
 you fancy). And I am sure this can somehow help maintain the non-Linux
 ports - NetBSD gives us the potential to bring Debian to _many_ new
 platforms. 

No it doesn't. I've yet to even hear of an architecture that NetBSD runs
on but which Linux doesn't. They just have a different definition of
architecture than us. (ie: our hppa may be three or four arches to
the NetBSD kernel folk.)


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Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:12:04 +1000 (EST)
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Capable of handling, yes, but then, so is cat.  g  Once delivered, though,
 there's no way of getting it back out again unless you're running something
 like courier or similar.

Or Mutt, or a halfdozen other MUAs. :)

 My logic was that, from the basic system, Maildir mailboxes are no use. 
 Things like courier make Maildir useful, so that's where the maildirmake
 script should live.  It *might* make sense to put it in exim where people
 can run it to make their mailboxes, but since the delivery is useless
 without other programs to post-process, I'm still not won over on the
 idea...

Well, it's a standard format, and it's a trivial shell script. The
options are either including maildirmake(1) in each and every MUA that
understands Maildir formats (understanding here that imapds perform
many/most functions traditionally assigned to an MUA), and having them
all either Conflicts: with one another or using alternatives.

Given how simple it is, makes more sense to have it in one place. I
don't know where it should be (in all the MTAs?), but there you go :)


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Re: CGI:IRC on Debian

2003-06-23 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:02:39 +0200
Vincent Zweije [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dodging with symlinks is not really a solution, as all the files will
 actually still be in the wrong places.

I believe he meant installing them to the proper locations, and then
making symlinks from there to the big directory which is probably in
/var/www. Thus, the files wouldn't actually be in the wrong places.

I agree however, in that it's an unpleasant workaround.

As for my own suggestion, I would say - fix the package. The diff.gz
exists for a reason. If you're incapable of fixing it, find somebody who
can (and hopefully get them to show you how they did it).


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Re: maildirmake

2003-06-23 Thread David B Harris
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:46:48 +1000 (EST)
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Now I'm wondering about it even more.  IMHO `maildirmake' is _very_
  necessary for any mail and as it seems to be only a 2-line-shell-script
  why it isn't included anywhere and anyway in the base-system?
 
 As I recall, maildirmake is only needed if you are running Maildir-based
 MDAs, which Debian does not by default[1].  That is enough of a reason not
 to ship it in the base system, regardless of whether it's a two line shell
 script or not.
 
 [1] Arguments as to whether Debian should do this or not should be directed
 to /dev/null.

Exim is capable of handling Maildir mailboxes. It's Priority: important.
I don't know if that counts as shipping it by default or not, but I
would certainly say that it's the closest thing around.


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Re: CGI:IRC on Debian

2003-06-23 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:27:48 -0300
Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As for my own suggestion, I would say - fix the package. The diff.gz
  exists for a reason. If you're incapable of fixing it, find somebody who
  can (and hopefully get them to show you how they did it).
 
 Additionally, try to make those modifications as compatible with
 the upstream's policies and code style as possible, as this
 is going to increase the possibility of he taking the patch.

Excellent and important point, thanks. I'll try not to forget in the
future.


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Accepted dpatch 1.22 (all source)

2003-06-14 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 04:01:28 -0400
Source: dpatch
Binary: dpatch
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.22
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dpatch - patch maintenance system for Debian source packages
Changes: 
 dpatch (1.22) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Brown paper bag release:
 - 'dpatch.make:45: *** unterminated call to function `shell': missing `)'
   fixed, caused all builds with 1.21 to break. Let us never upload on
   Friday the 13th again.
Files: 
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 4cd182b545e0ea8aa74b62f2756cd400 21369 devel optional dpatch_1.22.tar.gz
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Accepted:
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  to pool/main/d/dpatch/dpatch_1.22.dsc
dpatch_1.22.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/dpatch/dpatch_1.22.tar.gz
dpatch_1.22_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dpatch/dpatch_1.22_all.deb


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Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:33:29 +0100
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make
  sense to add per architecture tags so one can search via
   http://bugs.debian.org/tag:hppa
  for hppa related issues (not that there are any of course!). It would
  help porters to identify arch related issues much more easily.
 
  I strongly second this.
 
 I don't; it's silly.  At best you'll get an architecture tag for the
 arch that the buildd maintainer reported the bug on, but that's it.
 An inaccurate architecture tag is worse than useless, it's misleading.
 Just parse wanna-build's failed logs; it's trivial.

I don't think he's specifically referring to buildd things as much as
just general arch issues (ie: one might file a bug with respect to an
endianness issue and tag it hppa).


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Accepted dpatch 1.20 (all source)

2003-06-01 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 03:00:28 -0400
Source: dpatch
Binary: dpatch
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.20
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dpatch - patch maintenance system for Debian source packages
Closes: 193392 193481 195104 195443
Changes: 
 dpatch (1.20) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * David B. Harris:
 - dpatch-edit-patch, dpatch-edit-patch.functions, dpatch-edit-patch.1:
   + The meaning of CLI option -k (keep temporary working directory) was
 reversed. Thanks to Era Eriksson for the patch :) (Closes: #193392)
   + Another patch from Era - thanks again! This one allows
 debian/patches/00template to be executable. See the manpage for more
 details. (Closes: #193481)
   * Gergely Nagy:
 - debian/control (Standards-Version): Bumped to 3.5.10.0.
 - dpatch.make (PATCHLIST_ALL): Redirect stderr to /dev/null.
   (PATCHLIST_ARCH): Likewise.
   Noticed by James Troup. (Closes: #195104)
 - debian/rules (binary-indep): Mark all files in ${DPATCH}/etc as
   conffiles.
 - dpatch-list-patch: Use $( ( instead of $((. The latter is
   treated as an aritmetic expression by dash, thus parsing fails. With
   a space between the two parens, it is correctly recognised as a
   nested command substitution thingy.
 - dpatch-convert-diffgz: Addedd support for epochs. Patch from Junichi
   Uekawa. (Closes: #195443)
Files: 
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 964d87d0c5b2040de36d92132c3982f8 21117 devel optional dpatch_1.20.tar.gz
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Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread David B Harris
On 24 May 2003 15:40:08 +0900
Masato Taruishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package
 which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage
 my temporary on-going improvement to some debian package as a debian
 package. I didn't think to waste official debian packages because we
 shouldn't upload this kind of patch packages to the official but merge
 the patch to the official packages if we want to share them on public.

The main question is what on god's green earth does this do that
dpkg-divert doesn't do?

Looking at the package description, it implies that it will in fact do a
lot less than dpkg-divert unless you tell it otherwise.


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Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 24 May 2003 10:19:38 +0200
Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.debian.org/devel/, Projects section:
  
  * Debian Web Pages
 [...]
  * Alioth: Debian GForge
  Certainly seems that they're listed.
 
 The Debian Usability Research seems to be missing:
 http://deb-usability.alioth.debian.org

I think that's fairly new, eh? Might be a while before it shows up. (I
don't know how anal the webmaster for that page is, but I know I'd give
it a while to make sure it was a viable, active effort.)


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Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 23 May 2003 11:58:45 -0300
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
 and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
 initiative, but there are many others that are being
 excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
 
 - Guidelines to Debian subprojects (Do you known
what are the official and unofficial subprojects now?);
 
 - List the subprojects in two areas of the website:
* Developers' corner, to subprojects in initial state;
* A new area called: Subprojects, containing full
information about the subprojects considered mature.
 
 [1] = Mono for Debian, ipv6 (is it official or unofficial?),
 ddtp, ...

http://www.debian.org/devel/, Projects section:

* Debian Web Pages
* Debian archive
* Debian Documentation Project (DDP)
* The X Strike Force
* The Quality Assurance group
* Debian GNU/Linux CD images
* The sponsorship program
* The key signing coordination page
* Debian IPv6 Project
* Debian Jr. Project
* Debian-Med Project
* Debian-Edu Project
* Debian-Lex Project
* The Debian Desktop Project
* Automatic package building system
* Technical Committee
* Debian Description Translation Project (DDTP)
* Alioth: Debian GForge

Certainly seems that they're listed.


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Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-23 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:33:58 -0700
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Debconf is about Debian developers trying to meet other devels and users.  
 Its about trying to make us a stronger organization.  Its about hacking and 
 all of the other reasons we love Debian.
 
 Treating it like a Comdex, a Linux World or anything else just seems wrong.

The problem is that people who can get expenses reimbursed need to have
a focus. Sponsors need to have a focus. There needs to be a major
conference for these kinds of things; in other words, it has to be
billed as something more than just a bunch of people getting together,
even if that's what *all* conferences are at heart.

If a Debian Developer's employer is willing to let them go to one trade
conference a year, expenses paid or partially paid, and the options are
one of a dozen Debian conferences or LinuxWorld, their employers will
say LinuxWorld. If, on the other hand, the options are one of a dozen
Debian conferences, Debconf, and LinuxWorld, their employers will
likely allow either of the last two.

 Developers should feel encouraged to declare a conference whenever and 
 whereever they can make one.  If one of us can organize a meet and people 
 will show up that makes a conference.

Of course, but Debconf is a specific term. If you're arguing that it
isn't, then we need to come up with another one, that denotes an annual
Debian conference that's official in nature :) See above.

I'm really not trying to say that people can't get together when they
want to. Just saying that having something people can *focus* on is a
benefit to the community. So an annual or semi-annual Debconf is good,
even if all that _really_ distinguishes it from the rest is that we
don't call two conferences Debconf within the same six/tweleve-month
time frame :)


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Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-26 Thread David B Harris
On Sat Apr 26, 07:36pm +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
  * The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and
 sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit
 these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in
 pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs agains packages with
 /etc/init.d scripts. Will that be sucessfull? How cooperative will the
 maintainers of these script be?

I second Matthew Palmer and Henrique's sentiments. Matthew's in that if
you do all the work for me, I'll merge it (likely quickly :). And
Henrique's in that it needs to be fairly generic.


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Re: irssi-text - Not quite a release-critical bug

2003-04-23 Thread David B Harris
On Wed Apr 23, 09:35pm +0200, Wilmer van der Gaast wrote:
 Bug 183186 seems to be stopping irss-text 0.8.6 from entering Sarge, but
 IMHO the bug is not quite release critical. Botti is just a small part
 of irssi, not used by 90% of the package users (at least, I think so).
 (Maybe it should be split into a separate package anyway?)
 
 Can this bug be put back to normal priority?

I can't even reproduce it in Sid's Irssi.


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Re: stop abusing debconf already

2003-04-21 Thread David B Harris
On Mon Apr 21, 10:05am -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
 On 19-Apr-03, 11:44 (CDT), David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  From debconf-devel(8): low: Very trivial items that have defaults that
  will work in the vast majority of cases; oinly control freaks see
  these.
 
 If you have a package that is asking only medium and lower priority
 debconf questions, then debconf should not be used at all. Those
 priorities *exist* because there are packages that have a high-priority,
 non-defaultable question, and once you've broken the conffile system,
 you might as well include those questions. Perhaps it was a bad
 idea. Another use for those lower priorities is for notes to the
 admin. I contend that this second use *is* a bad idea, because the
 common implementation is to NOT include the same information under
 /usr/share/doc/pkg, and thus those of us who have low and medium
 priority turned off lose that info.

I never said otherwise, and in fact I have followed that practice
myself.


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Re: stop abusing debconf already

2003-04-19 Thread David B Harris
On Sat Apr 19, 11:18am -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
 On 19-Apr-03, 06:47 (CDT), Steve Kowalik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  At  7:22 pm, Saturday, April 19 2003, Denis Barbier mumbled:
   I do not understand exactly what is good and bad use of debconf.
   For instance all questions asked by the debconf package have good default
   values, so there is no reason to prompt user, a configuration file is
   enough.  So what am I missing?
   
  Well, not all use of debconf is bad. For example, libnet-perl is a terrible
  misuse of debconf, *but* it can be remedied by dropping the priority of the
  questions from medium to low.
 
 Huh? If all the questions it asks can be converted to priority low, then
 that means there are reasonable defaults, and therefore IT SHOULDN'T BE
 USING DEBCONF AT ALL.
 
 How hard is this?  What is so unclear about Policy on this topic?

From debconf-devel(8): low: Very trivial items that have defaults that
will work in the vast majority of cases; oinly control freaks see
these.


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[david@eelf.ddts.net: Re: why do we care about configuration files?]

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 18, 11:15am -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
 Perhaps I've been overly strong with the rhetoric.  Let me give two
 realistic scenarios where this manage foo with debconf? fails.

I like your two real-world examples, and I'd like to present a third.

3) Impatient but advanced user
   Somebody who dislikes being asked repeatedly whether or not a
   conffile can be overwritten. This user has tested xserver-xfree86's
   debconf interface, and has taken the time to understand how
   xserver-xfree86's postinst generates the configuration file based on
   the debconf information. He is very confident in it doing the right
   thing, and doesn't want to be bothered on each upgrade about whether
   or not it can overwrite it. More importantly, this user knows full
   well that, in the very rare circumstance where it *does* break, he
   can easily fix it within minutes.

This user will likely feel the same way about almost all
debconf/postinst-managed configuration files, excepting the few which he
knows will break repeatedly. He doesn't want to get asked 50 may I
overwrite your file? questions each upgrade. He knows that in the time
spent reading and answering all those questions, he could just has
easily fixed the two cases of breakage. Which he would have to do in
addition to answering the questions, were they forced upon him.

I liked the concept behind your suggestion of managed and unmanaged
configuration files. I would, however, suggest a slightly different
interface:

1) Package has a configuration file which can (optionally) be managed
   debconf/postinst
2) Package's .config asks, *once* (respecting debconf seen flag), the
   following question:

   File /etc/foo/bar can optionally be managed by this package's
maintenance scripts in an automated manner. How would you like
changes to /etc/foo/bar to be handled?

ask-no: If /etc/foo/bar will be changed, ask first. Default to
`no'
   ask-yes: If /etc/foo/bar will be changed, ask first. Default to
`yes'
 always-no: Never automatically overwrite /etc/foo/bar, don't even
ask.
always-yes: Always automatically overwrite /etc/foo/bar, don't even
ask (warning: dangerous).

 ask-no
ask-yes
   always-no
   always-yes

3) That question should be standard amongst all packages, identical. It
   should always be of priority medium.
4) A standard interface for ask-yes and ask-no would also be required,
   similar to dpkg's conffile handling.

For ask-* interfaces, debconf's seen flag should (obviously) be
ignored, since it's *meant* to be asked repeatedly.

After some feedback, I will implement said standard interfaces as
example. I kind of like the idea of
/etc/conffiles/{managed,unmanaged,default}. That could easily be used as
the backend storage for the standard {ask,always}-{no,yes} question.


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Re: [david@eelf.ddts.net: Re: why do we care about configuration files?]

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
Apologies for starting a new thread, I accidentally replied to Colin
privately, and instead of re-writing the email, I simply forwarded it.
Bad clal :)


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Re: stop the manage with debconf madness

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 18, 12:54pm -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
  On 18 Apr 2003 11:55:09 -0400,
  Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 
 
   So, opinions?  Yeah, it's kind of gross.  But the way things are
   now is far worse.
 
   As long as /etc/conffiles/managed, /etc/conffiles/unmanaged,
  and /etc/conffiles/default are never themselves unmanaged, this would
  work. And the factory default for /etc/conffiles/default should be
  managed; and the other two files should be empty. 
 
   If we standardize on a easy to interpret format for these
  files, I'll add the logic to ucf to handle these directives. (how
  about a configuration file path per line for /etc/conffiles/managed
  and /etc/conffiles/unmanaged, and /etc/conffiles/default contain a
  single word, which is managed by default; anything other than
  unmanaged is interpreted as managed?).

Something else worth thinking about, which I was gonna throw in my
example package for all this stuff, is config-file-change priority.

ie: It would be nice to differentiate between the entire config format
has changed, I will break completely if the old one is used, some
parameter options have changed; the old ones will still work - for now,
I just changed some defaults, keep what they have now, and I fixed a
typo in one of the documentation comments.

We could then respect things like DEBCONF_PRIORITY, and not bother the
user if all we've changed is the spelling of a descriptive (ie: not
example) word in a comment.

Pet peeve of mine in dpkg conffile handling :)


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Re: [david@eelf.ddts.net: Re: why do we care about configuration files?]

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 18, 05:28pm -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
  1) Package has a configuration file which can (optionally) be
  managed
 debconf/postinst

 This is already the way things are now; a package doesn't have to do
 anything special to create configuration files in its postinst.

Yeah, I was just setting out the scenario.

  2) Package's .config asks, *once* (respecting debconf seen flag), the
 following question:

 Uggg.  We should be extremely hesitant about changing
 /etc/conffiles/{managed,unmanaged,default} in maintainer scripts.  I
 mean they exist solely *because* of the problems of changing
 configuration files in maintainer scripts :)

I think this is the *perfect* place for maintainer scripts. We can make
the format extraordinarily simple, such that anybody who is capable of
writing a maintainer script can take 60 seconds to parse it and write it
out. It could be as simple as:

if [[ $always_yes = true ]]; then
grep -v '^/etc/foo/bar$' /etc/conffiles/managed  $tempfile  cp 
$tempfile /etc/conffiles/managed
if ! grep '^/etc/foo/bar$' /etc/conffiles/unmanaged; then
echo /etc/foo/bar  /etc/conffiles/unmanaged
fi
fi

I may have the meanings of unmanaged and managed backwards :)

The root of this problem isn't that maintainers are changing config
files in postinst scripts; the root is that those scripts aren't smart
enough to parse those config files and preserve user changes.

 I don't think we should use Debconf to prompt on each package
 installation like this.  Your proposal would make the medium debconf
 priority far more painful than it is even now.  Just think about how
 many prompts you'd have to go through on an initial installation.  It
 would be at least a hundred.

I dunno. I agree that it's unpleasant, but at least it'd only have to be
done once. (And that's a common strength in Debian; you usually only
need to do things once, as unpleasant as it might be. I think the
tradeoff has worked really well thus far.)

If /etc/conffiles/* *only* lists files that could possible be managed by
postinsts, then I could live with the question never being asked,
instead being maintained manually through editing /etc/conffiles.

 Basically, it seems to me that in your use case, the user could just:
 echo managed  /etc/conffiles/default 

Yeah, I'm starting to think this.

 And then explicitly list those files they want to keep unmanaged in
 /etc/conffiles/unmanaged.

 Now, it would be nice if at the end of a package installation run, dpkg
 said something like:

 The following new configuration files have been installed:
 Managed:
   /etc/foo/foo.conf
   /etc/blah.config
 Unmanaged;
   /etc/whee/moo.conf

 That way if you see something you want to maintain yourself, you drop it
 into /etc/conffiles/unmaanaged.

Aaah. That's good, I like that.

But I dunno, the scenario I brought up would still remain. Even if a
file is in /etc/conffiles/managed, the user still needs to be asked if
it's okay to overwrite it, unless they tell the system otherwise.

How will we let them tell it otherwise? 

I'm thinking in the may I upgrade your configuration file? question,
have the options I mentioned before (no, yes, always-no).

With no and yes being one-time-only things, always-no removing the
line from /etc/conffiles/managed and adding it to
/etc/conffiles/unmanaged.

How's that sound? It's unobtrusive, only adding a third option. We
ensure that /etc/conffiles/* is *extroardinarily* easy to deal with (we
can have a tool to do this for us, akin to
update-rc.d/update-inetd/etc), they'll only get changed when the user
tells us to change them, they're perfectly capable of changing it
themselves manually, and we end up with no more questions than we have
now.



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Re: [david@eelf.ddts.net: Re: why do we care about configuration files?]

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 18, 07:06pm -0400, David B Harris wrote:
 I'm thinking in the may I upgrade your configuration file? question,
 have the options I mentioned before (no, yes, always-no).
 
 How's that sound? It's unobtrusive, only adding a third option. We
 ensure that /etc/conffiles/* is *extroardinarily* easy to deal with (we
 can have a tool to do this for us, akin to
 update-rc.d/update-inetd/etc), they'll only get changed when the user
 tells us to change them, they're perfectly capable of changing it
 themselves manually, and we end up with no more questions than we have
 now.
 

Gar. We'd still need always-yes to deal with the case I raised. Don't
like it, but ...


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Re: [david@eelf.ddts.net: Re: why do we care about configuration files?]

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 18, 06:37pm -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
   If you use ucf like mechanisms, and you acpet the first
  debconf generated file, then you will never be asked to over write
  your file -- since the md5sum of the installed file shall match the
  previous maintainer version. Bingo, we cater to all these use cases
  at once.

Wouldn't that only be accurate if the postinst generated an identical
config file every time?


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Re: Bug#189566: amavisd-new: bad interaction with package amavis-ng

2003-04-18 Thread David B Harris
On Sat Apr 19, 10:22am +1000, Brian May wrote:
 Any ideas?

Share an initscript between them, if that's possible?


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Re: Bug#188564: ITP: exim-mysql -- An MTA (Mail Transport Agent) with mysql backend support.

2003-04-11 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 11, 11:47am +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
 * Package name: exim-mysql
   Version : 3.36
 
 I already packaged with one (exim compiled with mysql and tls support).
 I needed it personally, with the provided debian exim package a
 recompile is necessary to use a mysql backend.
 debian package mirror: http://draenor.its-toasted.org/~phil/deb-pkgs
 distribution: unstable
 component: unofficial

For what it's worth, exim4-daemon-heavy includes MySQL support; this
package isn't in the archive yet, I grabbed it from q.bofh.de at some
point, and that's stopped working.

The package was from a team working on exim 4.x packaging, presumably
it'll be uploaded to the archive eventually (though eventually may be
far enough into the future to warrant this package, given how slow
they're going at it).


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Re: Bug#188564: ITP: exim-mysql -- An MTA (Mail Transport Agent) with mysql backend support.

2003-04-11 Thread David B Harris
On Fri Apr 11, 02:25pm +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
 http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/

Ack, sorry, I didn't realise you guys were uploading to experimental now
:)


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Accepted sopwith 1.6.0-3 (i386 source)

2003-03-25 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 03:17:31 -0500
Source: sopwith
Binary: sopwith
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.6.0-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sopwith- port of the 1980's side-scrolling WWI dogfighting game
Closes: 185449
Changes: 
 sopwith (1.6.0-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/rules: ensure $(CFLAGS) gets passed to ./configure
   * Convert to dpatch to modify upstream source:
 + debian/patches/90_ctrlkeyfix.dpatch:
   - Allow both left and right control keys to be used in CTRL+C for
 quitting (previously only left was allowed). Thanks to Tollef Fog Heen
 for pointing this out.
   - Document using CTRL+C to quit in sopwith.6 manpage (Closes: #185449)
 + debian/patches/00list: Add 90_ctrlkeyfix
   * debian/menu: Execute /usr/games/sopwith, not /usr/bin/sopwith
   * debian/control: Add Suggests: menu ( 1.5)
Files: 
 c89882fa4685ff6719b2af3f9d33 598 games optional sopwith_1.6.0-3.dsc
 a89fde17efcdc679740af12708e3b380 24374 games optional sopwith_1.6.0-3.diff.gz
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Accepted:
sopwith_1.6.0-3.diff.gz
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sopwith_1.6.0-3.dsc
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.6.0-3.dsc
sopwith_1.6.0-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.6.0-3_i386.deb


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Accepted sopwith 1.6.0-2 (i386 source)

2003-03-17 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:54:35 -0500
Source: sopwith
Binary: sopwith
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.6.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sopwith- port of the 1980's side-scrolling WWI dogfighting game
Changes: 
 sopwith (1.6.0-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fixed punctuation inconsistency in Description.
   * Start using dh_install.
   * Put the sopwith binary in /usr/games, where it belongs.
Files: 
 21684a889e5173b80b0544a2b4502f2a 580 games optional sopwith_1.6.0-2.dsc
 de60b17c097fbd3a31207fa336d5e3c5 23386 games optional sopwith_1.6.0-2.diff.gz
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Accepted:
sopwith_1.6.0-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.6.0-2.diff.gz
sopwith_1.6.0-2.dsc
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.6.0-2.dsc
sopwith_1.6.0-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sopwith/sopwith_1.6.0-2_i386.deb


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Accepted gqmpeg 0.20.0-1 (i386 source)

2003-03-01 Thread David B Harris
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 04:19:39 -0500
Source: gqmpeg
Binary: gqmpeg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.20.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gqmpeg - a GTK+ front end to mpg321/mpg123 and ogg123
Closes: 155481 172504
Changes: 
 gqmpeg (0.20.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release (Closes: #155481)
   * Update config.{sub,guess} (Closes: #172504)
   * Support DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS, bringing standards-version up to 3.5.8.0
Files: 
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Accepted gmrun 0.8.1-2 (i386 source)

2003-03-01 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:51:56 -0500
Source: gmrun
Binary: gmrun
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.8.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gmrun  - Featureful CLI-like GTK+ application launcher
Changes: 
 gmrun (0.8.1-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * src/main.cc: If the user hasn't set any position prefs (Top or Left
 directives), then center the window.
Files: 
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gmrun_0.8.1-2.dsc
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Accepted snac 0.3-3 (i386 source)

2003-03-01 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sat,  1 Mar 2003 11:39:49 -0500
Source: snac
Binary: snac
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 snac   - Complete algebraic calculator for GNOME
Changes: 
 snac (0.3-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Update maintainer email address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   * Support DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS nostrip and noopt, bringing
 standards-version up to 3.5.8.0
   * Ensure that there are sensible defaults for colours (previously,
 all colours were set to black, foreground and background alike :)
Files: 
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snac_0.3-3_i386.deb
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Accepted shaper 2.2.12-0.7-3 (powerpc all source)

2003-02-22 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 04:41:12 -0500
Source: shaper
Binary: shapecfg shaper
Architecture: source all powerpc
Version: 2.2.12-0.7-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 shapecfg   - Bandwidth limiter for virtual network interfaces
 shaper - Traffic Shaper init script for Linux
Closes: 156270
Changes: 
 shaper (2.2.12-0.7-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Make cron.d script check for the existence of /etc/shaper before
 running (Closes: #156270)
Files: 
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shaper_2.2.12-0.7-3.diff.gz
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shaper_2.2.12-0.7-3.dsc
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shaper_2.2.12-0.7-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/s/shaper/shaper_2.2.12-0.7-3_all.deb


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Accepted gmrun 0.8.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-01-11 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:20:28 -0500
Source: gmrun
Binary: gmrun
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.8.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gmrun  - Featureful CLI-like GTK+ application launcher
Changes: 
 gmrun (0.8.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
   * Update config.{sub,guess} to latest versions
   * Update to standards-version 3.5.8.0
Files: 
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gmrun_0.8.1-1.dsc
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gmrun_0.8.1-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gmrun/gmrun_0.8.1-1_i386.deb
gmrun_0.8.1.orig.tar.gz
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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-07 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:51:03 +0100
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is a bad practice to repeat the package name as the first word in
 the long description.  

Why is that again?
 
 Also the URL does not belong into the description but should be
 placed in the debian/copyright file instead.

Joey might have said that, but I believe the consensus was it's a nice
feature.

The description is not a random dumping-ground for information, but what
information we include is entirely arbitrary. If people like having the
URL in the description (and they do), there's no reason why it shouldn't
be included unless you want to make a case for Packages.gz bloat.


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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:13:57 +0100
Michael Piefel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Line breaks already aren't preserved, and there already exist a very
 specific set of rules for that. Look into your documentation, and have
 a look at dselect.

I already have example applications which don't preserve them :)
packages.d.o was just one such example.

Could you point me at the documentation in question?


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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread David B Harris
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:09 +0100
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 a good search interface in our package interface UIs (good search !=
 search by words).

... as opposed to searching based on the contents of people's minds? :)

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Re: Mozilla Calendar?

2002-12-04 Thread David B Harris
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:55:35 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Haahtinen) wrote:
 In the past the only thing that stopped me from doing a build of my
 own from the sources was that debian missed libical.. and now that
 there appears to be libical-dev, i can't see any reason why not
 package it..

Yes, looks like it was uploaded somewhere near the end of September.

Regardless, newer versions of Mozilla Calendar don't need it. :)


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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-04 Thread David B Harris
On 04 Dec 2002 12:55:50 -0500
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html

Thanks.


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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-04 Thread David B Harris
On 04 Dec 2002 12:55:50 -0500
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html

I do have some differences of opinion, though. It's sad, but there are a
getting to be a fairly large number of DDs who are attention grabbers.
Just a few days ago, I saw a package description that said something
along the lines of this is the best package for this purpose ... and
it certainly wasn't. Even if it was, I think everybody would agree that
that kind of language doesn't belong in a Debian package description.

So, the opening section that talks about advertising and whatnot will
probably give these sorts of people the wrong idea; I'd ammend it to:

Debian package descriptions are the first avenue for you to give your
audience relevant, useful information about your package. When you
attempt to give somebody new knowledge, the key idea is to emknow your
audience/em.

Also, I'm not sure I agree with the third paragraph; everything in it is
factual and well-said, but it'd be nice if somebody who *didn't* know
what GTK+ and RAD are could know conclusively, this is not what I
want. When you're looking for something specific, but don't know the
exact package name, the process of elimination is the best start. I know
I, *personally*, have installed packages which I couldn't immediately
rule out from the package description because I didn't *quite*
understand the jargon.

glade is a bad example for my point, though, because it has a great
description :)

In paragraph five (So how can we better target these users?), I'd
s/minimum/appropriate amount/. I've seen bloody jihads in very
well-known projects to give only the minimum of technical jargon, and
people invariably take it to far. Had they just stressed appropriateness
of the text to the audience, things would have been much more
reasonable.

In paragraph six, (So far we've mainly discussed the synopsis line),
I'd s/competition/alternatives/; s/advertisement/good documentation/.
(BTW, if you totally disagree with me about this advertisement stuff,
do replace all references to advertisements with good advertisements
and whatnot :)

Also, in the description template, two spaces are used after a period -
is that standard nowadays? (My understanding was that they were
primarily used for variable-width fonts, where a single space would take
up very little page space. Since the descriptions should be presented in
a fixed-width font (for many reasons, this also includes GUI package
browsers), they're a bit redundant.)

Thanks again :)


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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-04 Thread David B Harris
On 04 Dec 2002 19:19:38 +
Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In correct English grammar and typography the space after a full stop
 (period in Merkin) is supposed to be a wider space then that between
 words and after commas and suchlike.

Ahh, allright, so there's still reason to be using them, at least in
fixed-width fonts.

I personally, though, suggest we just do away with it :)


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Re: description writing guide

2002-12-04 Thread David B Harris
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:33:35 -0800
Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't see any reason why package descriptions shouldn't be presented
 in variable-width fonts. The right margin might look a bit ragged
 (assuming the program preserves line breaks, which is probably a good
 idea to avoid messing up bulletted lists in the description), but so
 what? Package descriptions don't usually include tabular data that
 would be seriously messed up by variable-width fonts.

Just for looks, and to allow some flexibility on the part of the
description writer.

If variable-width fonts are used, then line breaks shouldn't be
preserved. If they're not going to be preserved, there needs to be a
very specific set of rules as to how lines are joined. These already
exist in code, actually; I believe packages.debian.org joins lines.


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Accepted gqmpeg 0.19.0-1 (i386 source)

2002-12-03 Thread David B Harris
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue,  3 Dec 2002 16:43:52 -0500
Source: gqmpeg
Binary: gqmpeg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.19.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gqmpeg - a GTK+ front end to mpg321/mpg123 and ogg123
Closes: 155481
Changes: 
 gqmpeg (0.19.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release (Closes: #155481)
   * s/common-license/common-licenses/ in debian/copyright (oops! thank you
 lintian)
Files: 
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 c0c4568bd85d679a9dc7f7a01b0269b3 961647 sound optional gqmpeg_0.19.0.orig.tar.gz
 c686401dad655e11649f10de8a5deb7b 3982 sound optional gqmpeg_0.19.0-1.diff.gz
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gqmpeg_0.19.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/g/gqmpeg/gqmpeg_0.19.0-1_i386.deb
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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-30 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:27:33 +1300
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Given the ISO mirroring situation? Care to elucidate?

There being an order of magnitude more package mirrors than ISO mirrors.
Completely ignoring the web site organisation, mind you, it's been
common for a long time for people to encourage network-based installs,
or anything other than downloading full 640M ISOs.

Part of it, of course, is to enhance the user experience - users will
rightfully go with full 640M ISOs because it's been their experience in
the past that a) it was required, and b) shit broke often enough that
they needed to reinstall.

Almost everybody I got to do a 'net install never had any problems
whatsoever, and they were EXTREMELY delighted. Had they gone wish the
full 640M ISO, they'd have been happy, but they wouldn't have had as
good an idea as to how things *can* work, when it's done right :)


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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-30 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:06:40 -0500
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem with the net installs isos is mainly that they are
 unofficial and there are several varying cd's produced by different
 folks, and of varying quality (though quality is overall good; I've
 used them happily in the past). If we really want to promote them more
 it would be good to set things up so they can be generated from the
 debian-cd package, and make them official debian isos.
 
 Of course debian-installer should support 1.4 mb net install floppies
 too.
 
 But still if someone wants a whole debian CD, for whatever reasons,
 I'd rather they could easily find it, especially if they are a
 newcomer to debian.

Agreed, on all counts :)


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New thread about people switching to other distributions

2002-11-29 Thread David B Harris
Hey there :)

I'm starting a new thread about people switching to other distributions.
Why? Because I'd rather we start first with an information-gathering
thread.

I'm shortly going to relate my first-hand knowledge of why people have
switched from Debian, to Gentoo. Everybody else who has any first-hand
knowledge about it, please relate your experiences too. Also, if you
know of somebody who was thinking Hmmm, Debian or Gentoo?, and they
chose Gentoo, do tell why. (I don't know anybody who's been in that
situation, unfortunately. I think they've probably got great insights.
Joey's comments on the web site would probably also come from somebody
in this group of Gentoo users.)

If you don't have any first-hand knowledge, please don't respond to this
thread. We'll start a what do we do with this knowledge now? thread
later.

Okay, so, my experiences.

I've watched about three dozen people from #debian switch to Gentoo.
About two dozen of them switched simply because it was cool. I mean,
these people showed up in #debian because they had tried Slackware and
failed miserably (yes. This happens like every other day). Now they were
trying Debian, because it was the next step up in the coolness meter.

No, I'm not just assuming these people are idiots :) I actually talk to
them privately, help them out, and whatnot.

The other third of people I've watched switched just wanted something
new to play with. Would have been FreeBSD, probably, if Gentoo hadn't
been around. Most of them have already tried SuSE, Mandrake, Red Hat,
and their ilk.

One person had a very good reason - they had a client whose company
policy was to use specific gcc flags (can't remember which, but IIRC
they had something to do with hardware stability and debugging) - Gentoo
let them do that more easily.

Anybody else?


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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-29 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:58:51 -0500
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The comparison is only fair with organizations that *want* you do do
 so(so not redhat, probably not openbsd, or mandrake, or others whose
 principal developers try to sell cds).

Strictly speaking, given the ISO mirroring situation, we've never wanted
people to use full 640M ISOs when we knew that 99% of people downloading
would use a couple hundreds megs, at most.


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