Accepted chrony 1.20-1 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 22:00:00 -0500 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.20-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Closes: 189686 198557 210886 211604 Changes: chrony (1.20-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream release. . * Frank Otto's patch to sys_linux.c, function guess_hz_and_shift_hz now incorporated upstream. Closes: #198557 Fatal error: chronyd can't determine hz for kernel with HZ=200 . * Security and 64 bit patches are now incorporated upstream along with most non-i386 architecture patches. . * Put correct links in /usr/share/doc/chrony/timeservers. Closes: #189686 /usr/share/doc/timeservers links are broken . * Put correct links in chrony.conf. Closes: #210886 bad link in chrony.conf . * Put missing newlines in apm and chrony.keys. Closes: #211604 Build-warning: some files misses final newline . * Removed conflict with ntpdate. Files: 924dd72933a8e23c5b0b5bb8ee38d859 687 admin extra chrony_1.20-1.dsc d0f89e9e13fa47d04fd9f99e56c615c2 308253 admin extra chrony_1.20.orig.tar.gz 873f53f323b250314ba9831a2176ba58 137565 admin extra chrony_1.20-1.diff.gz 95cff98093d5e6665c4f7dd773d3f0d7 301192 admin extra chrony_1.20-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBP4b4g/c1CeQKxb5hAQEXgwP+NYRW5GoVssG8OZoDOqEd2pL6a36ZnrF6 muVA38X/blHGBjbxkJhBZx9x+KNx/MrRk3Pj5Pux5L63TZ+5FGuq9g15nARg75Ky GKHcixCw2KDJyxMzeq94SnJjXC0+9ynBkifXeaMJU3Aqv6QPSEfRx0Jn78XITNXZ 5qY7pzWDhfU= =le4M -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.20-1.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.20-1.diff.gz chrony_1.20-1.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.20-1.dsc chrony_1.20-1_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.20-1_i386.deb chrony_1.20.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.20.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Language extensions in programs under /usr/bin
Chris writes: $ ls /usr/bin/*openoffice* /usr/bin/openoffice What is dumb about that? The thread is about naming of files within /usr/bin. Since the package is named openoffice.org supposedly for trademark reasons I assumed that the binary was as well. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Language extensions in programs under /usr/bin
Paga writes: What would be the best approach, to leave the program as ask.py (unusual) or rename it to ask (possibility of name conflicts and breakage of existing installations)? Leave it. The program will be known as ask.py everywhere outside Debian. Changing the name is asking for confusion. Besides, if dumb names were a problem we'd do something about openoffice.org. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: On package description quality
Tom writes: I disagree. GUI apps in Linux are so wildly disparate that knowing the basic architecture is pretty important for me to decide whether or not I want it. Only a small minority of users know what GTK+ means. Those that do also know how to check the dependencies. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser
Scott James Remnant wrote: Some of us would like to see Perl taken out of base as well :) Marc writes: That would be an awfully nice thing to have. But it would not be nice to not have the things that would leave with it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser
Colin Watson writes: That would mean we'd have to add python to the base system. I'd _really_ rather not see that. While I now use Python in preference to Perl, I don't think its advantages justify bloating base. Perl's just another procedural language. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Virus emails
Lars Wirzenius writes: I favor this approach over simple applications of violence, such as using an axe on any computer infected by a virus. Psychiatry just for sending viruses? I don't know. Seems pretty extreme to me. Are you sure simple beatings would not suffice? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!
Andi writes: I hope that you're joking. (Well, I fear that you're not.) It's not the American audience that has the limited vocabulary. It's the American publisher. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse
Andrew writes: The (granted, commercial) SMTP virus scanners that I've had experience with don't allow you to modify the notification behavior on a per virus signature basis, it's either all on or all off. The signature file sent out by the vendor should tell the scanner whether or not to send notices. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken
Brian May writes: You saying that any SMTP MTA that sends bounces to unauthenticated E-Mail addresses is also broken? Karsten M. Self writes: At the very least, this is a small subset of the incoming mail. This is about a quarter of my incoming mail. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken
I wrote: This is about a quarter of my incoming mail. Karsten writes: Which? Bounces to spoofed senders, or improperly addressed mail? Bounces. What prevents you from 550ing this at SMTP connect? The absence of any such connections. I'm on a dialup. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: what about ip's
David Smith writes: my first assumption is that charter sells their users email addresses. does anyone on this list know how an unused email address that has never been used can have spam without the ip giving the address out? Did you use 'dsmith' as the user name for the charter.net account? If so the answer should be obvious. Hint: 99% of my spam is addressed to non-existent users. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Future releases of Debian
Bob Hilliard wrote: A true newbie would be one who has never used a computer before. To such a person, a CLI is much more intuitive than any GUI. Colin Walters writes: And your research supporting this is...? No research, but I've had a couple of experiences that tend to confirm it. It's irrelevant, though, because people who have never used Windows or Mac are getting scarce. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Future releases of Debian
Robert Lemmen writes: any package that doesn't build on m68k or arm is broken and needs to be fixed, even if it works on x86 by chance! Even when it fails to build due to compiler errors or buggy libraries? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: default MTA for sarge
Joey Hess writes: So do we want there to be a MTA by default? IMO yes. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Accepted chrony 1.19-10 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 7:00:00 -0500 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-10 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Changes: chrony (1.19-10) unstable; urgency=low . * Put linux/linkage.h ahead of linux/spinlock.h as I meant to in the first place. Files: fa55990b5ea9e2862a3afe11ca07d684 686 admin extra chrony_1.19-10.dsc 3e92c155d9bc227ada0583beb9782046 142200 admin extra chrony_1.19-10.diff.gz df43c6a7151796b5c20897f1706dd48b 291382 admin extra chrony_1.19-10_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPxFTX/c1CeQKxb5hAQEkRQP+Oiqn42xHCDjpyrN5XdhmDgHqidkVtsc0 3UFw+uI1PGJGjdODvWeUCbHTDh3gCwrwY+EQmOfieOaGWj5PlSyUk4vwZprZa2hQ mTSwF9jqvf0aqX6+l03x9Avjv+t198YxHeFbWoFpi/4kVJwJojIO9Y5fJvU2MCRl 0F0eJFRrzzI= =1I8v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-10.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-10.diff.gz chrony_1.19-10.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-10.dsc chrony_1.19-10_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-10_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange BTS behaviour with bug #200180
Mark Brown writes: I've had this happen to me a few times in the past. Same here (though not recently). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Accepted chrony 1.19-9 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:00:00 -0500 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-9 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Closes: 200165 Changes: chrony (1.19-9) unstable; urgency=low . * Added #include linux/linkage.h to rtc_linux.c to fix mips build failure. Closes: #200165: chrony doesn't build on mips and mipsel Files: 6b6a544d5521f768f41d936e87a3f907 684 admin extra chrony_1.19-9.dsc b1c6d9b613c68d196343c0fb785b6d48 142153 admin extra chrony_1.19-9.diff.gz f0e6608603365bcf11e5cde62650ef39 291344 admin extra chrony_1.19-9_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPxDPr/c1CeQKxb5hAQHa2AP/dKJKQ1XsyZLXifbVjPg2cnvJ2MImp3RH pMNjW2LMZxCHnuG9meL51uOf6MZtkhjywdeI3G6TqtY3EQ4aICYEfRcyhehS+zV8 LO2Wy4YdyTArfI3EHA937dMMhIv21JW9b+EK90LXN/XtEKU+yD7lM/g6pfqRIovZ k1sdCWKd7eQ= =WXi3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-9.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-9.diff.gz chrony_1.19-9.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-9.dsc chrony_1.19-9_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-9_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description
Dan Jacobson writes: I was hoping that maintainers of multi-megabyte packages would do the package justice by giving an adequate description. While extremely short descriptions might be a cause for concern regardless of the size of the package, I don't see why larger packages should need longer descriptions. A one-of-a-kind special-purpose package is likely to need a much longer description than yet another Web browser. Why not go through your list, read all the descriptions that seem suspiciously short, and file bugs if justified? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Red-Handed SCO ?
Martin List-Petersen writes: So anybody that has got a copy of the written offer can go to SCO and require the Source, even if they didn't buy the Product. However, if SCO fails to comply only the copyright owner can sue. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Accepted pppconfig 2.2.0 (all source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:00:00 -0500 Source: pppconfig Binary: pppconfig Architecture: source all Version: 2.2.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: pppconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring ppp Closes: 63670 152278 176900 183495 187527 187651 187651 187810 Changes: pppconfig (2.2.0) unstable; urgency=low . * Rewrote chatescape, replaced all the quote inserting and stripping stuff with calls to it, did some miscellaneous cleanup. * Fixed in 2.0.15. See bug #138344. * Closes: #152278 error message when /etc/resolv.conf is missing during first time install * Clarified license. * Closes: #176900 unclear license in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0dns-up * Eliminated echo -e usage. * Closes: #187527 0dns-up not POSIX sh compatible - trashes /etc/resolv.conf if a POSIX sh is used as default * Fixed 0dns-up to use mktemp to create TEMPRESOLV and to put it in /tmp. * Fixed ispname() and isppassword(). * Closes: #183495 Nokia 6310i w/ Orange GPRS does not need a username or password in chatscripts * Added text to getnameservers() to make it clear that resolv.conf will not be touched if None is selected. * Closes: #187651 Please document how to keep resolv.conf static * Rewrote 0dns-up and 0dns-down to not put tempfiles in /etc, to not restore /etc/resolv.conf in 0dns-down if it has been overwritten, to use update-resolv if available, and to work with a r/o root. * Closes: #187810 Please support read-only /etc * Closes: #187651 Please make resolv.conf futzing optional * Added text to man page discussing resolv.conf files. * Closes: #63670 Please document how to customize resolv.conf files Files: 76c17092e119fc1187b06a9c3c81d7b5 609 base optional pppconfig_2.2.0.dsc 87ce18e603b5764255abcbcb97097583 30460 base optional pppconfig_2.2.0.tar.gz f4392d545e0f2331d8afa6bf5e94e172 29588 base optional pppconfig_2.2.0_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPuKmk/c1CeQKxb5hAQEDkAP/bRrb+rl6QZvmfMeGvkJON2bB24TkrSDe mgZwZxAXm3WMXbA9kMziLf4KdDwzwrIKb5La9dUYPNbesIUyCkI7AODpB/JPtWsW UpbPYpqioOThHr9eYvvPlTL49E6uPQzxbDBdHdtu1Fm70JHhhEvePhKERLK40P4G bVBitApIE9o= =s1n1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: pppconfig_2.2.0.dsc to pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.2.0.dsc pppconfig_2.2.0.tar.gz to pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.2.0.tar.gz pppconfig_2.2.0_all.deb to pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.2.0_all.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted chrony 1.19-8 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:00:00 -0500 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Changes: chrony (1.19-8) unstable; urgency=low . * Added bison to build-depends because of addition of getdate.y Files: 12e677b2383f423fabf92ecdc1f6c538 684 admin extra chrony_1.19-8.dsc a6aa399d60746f8223d0b3eca8d89c36 141960 admin extra chrony_1.19-8.diff.gz 5361038b649285fa26a7a23c82135864 291262 admin extra chrony_1.19-8_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPtzEfPc1CeQKxb5hAQEuIgQArOqpew3mYuWIUvBVaMZlExILX3X4C5jS FjN9GefHzYyTAcV7kkhsJdtzIcSc/zpB6d9IhjBkW888ivxNogCpIdKgmaX/A17f wpAE5CCvZxtPQDByPLgoaQ9QtCSpXrucNR3MGctGV0rZUTFc/PNxzvaR0NaMELXb shUI4jrWwhU= =65VC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-8.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-8.diff.gz chrony_1.19-8.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-8.dsc chrony_1.19-8_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-8_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changelogs (Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism echo -e))
mdz writes: When I open a Debian changelog, I expect to see changes which are pertinent to Debian development. This obviously includes changes which affect the status of Debian bug reports. From Debian-Policy 3.5.10.0: Debian Policy Manual - Source packages (from old Packaging Manual) (7/11) C.2.3 debian/changelog This file records the changes to the Debian-specific parts of the package [72]. This would seem to preclude upstream bug-fixes. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Accepted chrony 1.19-7 (i386 source)
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 7:00:00 -0500
Source: chrony
Binary: chrony
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.19-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net
Closes: 186498 195615
Changes:
chrony (1.19-7) unstable; urgency=high
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* Closes: #186498 chronyc hangs if no chronyd is running
Added test for running daemon to ip-{up|down} scripts.
Disabled trimrtc for ALPHA
Closes: #195615 GPL violation - generated file without source
* Added a copy of getdate.y to source.
Files:
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Accepted:
chrony_1.19-7.diff.gz
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chrony_1.19-7.dsc
to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-7.dsc
chrony_1.19-7_i386.deb
to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-7_i386.deb
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Accepted units 1.81-3 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Thur, 29 May 2003 20:30:00 -0500 Source: units Binary: units Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.81-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: units - converts between different systems of units Closes: 195260 Changes: units (1.81-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Closes: #195260 FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Removed example script from end of units.c. gcc 3.3 was choking on it despite it being inside a '#if 0 ... #endif'. Files: d95a994bb843845373ef70b5a0c080d2 663 utils optional units_1.81-3.dsc 7b015a3d8f32013e90bca252e17180ed 4544 utils optional units_1.81-3.diff.gz 2f5ef67ce7a615af12d605901ced48c3 120956 utils optional units_1.81-3_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPta9Nvc1CeQKxb5hAQEuwAP/ROVgaNEX1AdkSFigUc8v5TzTmFXWXz/a ubNlFr7f8Lj2RG6ACtYoF04ZXoaBypX14cjs9SY3sy4JdqczvUDin0j2B0tZQtOx kW/MUGdYiZ18RGduIAjnqNNP6dGhJVL0e6w9oPBbcQjRzrWA2nNND4DWyptT+H1u xX6ehV87q5I= =HuVG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: units_1.81-3.diff.gz to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81-3.diff.gz units_1.81-3.dsc to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81-3.dsc units_1.81-3_i386.deb to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81-3_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#190302: Misusage of changelog!
Brian Nelson writes: If you're not going to describe upstream fixes in the changelog, then don't close the bug in the changelog. The changelog is for describing changes, not listing meaningless numbers. If you want to have rigid, detailed rules for the content and structure of changelog entries make them policy and write them up in debian-policy. Anything less will just result in more pointless flamewars. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Because in Debian there is a few people with high load in debian, and many with less load. People with high load are more likely to burn out and disappear. Do you have statistics to support that statement? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Bug marked as done messages to-be-MIMEified?
Steve Langasek writes: I dunno, I've always found use of Outlook to be a fairly good predictor of bug-reporting cluelessness (use of reportbug being another :). What's your objection to reportbug? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/
christophe barbe wrote: I don't see why they should not be readable by everyone before being checked by ftp-master. I don't said I disapprove that (for what it would worth) but I don't understand the logic. Can someone explain? There is no logic involved. Just US law. Cryptographic software may not be made available for download until it has been registered in some silly way. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian
Eric Schwartz writes: Except in extreme cases, we don't overrule a package maintainer's decision to package the software he maintains however he likes. I don't see any indication he has tried unsuccessfully to air his concerns with the maintainer I think this is because like most people he does not understand how decentralized Debian is. There seems to be a widespread belief that packages are added to Debian at the direction of a central authority. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian
Adrian writes: Well, doesn't the GPL say something on it being illegal to impose additional restrictions on distribution? Original authors can add external restrictions, though the result is generally incompatible with other GPL software. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian
Jan writes: He did talk about 'violation of copyright' in his first mail, but reading his second mail, I'm quite sure he doesn't really care about legal positions, but about fairness. But Debian _has_ to care about legal positions. Mr. Reiser has published a statement which appears to accuse Debian of infringing his copyright. We must resolve that or remove the package. I don't see how we can resolve it until we get a clear statement of the problem. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian
Craig writes: I think the accusation of trolling holds up quite well. It's still better to let the reader work it out for himself. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: stop abusing debconf already
Don Armstrong writes: I (apparently incorrectly) presumed that debconf was also intended to allow for the eventual automation of replicated Debian installations. I distinctly remember reading exactly that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: stop the manage with debconf madness
Colin Walters writes: One might be to create a third class of configuration files; let's call them managed configuration files. Is the choice to be up to the maintainer? If so, I'm afraid that over time almost all configfiles would become managed, as that would be the easy way for maintainers. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Accepted chrony 1.19-6 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:00:00 -0600 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Closes: 179842 Changes: chrony (1.19-6) unstable; urgency=low . * Closes: #179842 CROAK redefined Added '#undef CROAK' before CROAK redefiniton in pktlength.h, added '-DALPHA' to 'alpha' condition in configure, added 'ifdef ALPHA' around CROAK redefinition. * Replaced many signed and unsigned longs as well as some ints, shorts, and chars with stdint.h types in candm.h, md5.h, ntp.h, clientlog.h, and ntp_io.c. This should fix all 64-bit problems. Files: e38bfcddcf5fbe25b20e027bae19dbfc 677 admin extra chrony_1.19-6.dsc e3176a1b648b9e7447a84fe813884005 117742 admin extra chrony_1.19-6.diff.gz 82cf06016f7fff916a1f2415a192b034 291064 admin extra chrony_1.19-6_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPn0Q+fc1CeQKxb5hAQHQPgQAiZaNuzz3ltGR8+ND+Nh7mtN6YKKVx/6R MVmPgG/rY3m9H1eu7EWiC+lDKVx7W+WB8Zev5Z4blf4aSBwEadDuyZBJ9iEG3l0z HAjesMSPSSzFOyHzMpZ9+6WNN8u5cIfpwHqabjGKfh/WGk0SmUnLk1XZRLhCDrzI JA5H6HBSwdY= =uBc4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-6.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-6.diff.gz chrony_1.19-6.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-6.dsc chrony_1.19-6_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-6_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted chrony 1.19-5 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:00:00 -0600 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Closes: 184065 Changes: chrony (1.19-5) unstable; urgency=high . * Closes: #184065 Assertion `sizeof(NTP_int32) == 4' failed on alpha Fixed several spots where the author assumed that a long is 32 bits. There are many more misuses of long as well as several of short and char but I think I got the only ones likely to cause trouble. Files: 4c7221ad7696f0ab75e6f5f17b91444d 677 admin extra chrony_1.19-5.dsc 5e813e7c3bde2e91924804e14a40fb0f 114416 admin extra chrony_1.19-5.diff.gz 63e4984d443dc27d3fc298571437fb46 290886 admin extra chrony_1.19-5_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPnKdy/c1CeQKxb5hAQFQbgQAl8eh1346Bit5gDrP5cqYAxPHfXH11boV hZxf5FtMbC79/R+zaRychJBagWZG52dTwc+dm4MPT8BKrR2nQbTrC213dQV9kvO0 C/HVzx6O9Nram8UmARwjq7o+xyBADxaCJYJgaNKnPms7eXAhQNz1bLmxk55JwArf MUWGbDhgohU= =cV/y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-5.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-5.diff.gz chrony_1.19-5.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-5.dsc chrony_1.19-5_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-5_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted chrony 1.19-4 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:00:00 -0600 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Closes: 179508 179538 Changes: chrony (1.19-4) unstable; urgency=low . * Closes: #179538 FTBFS: missing build-depends on makeinfo Added texinfo to build-depends. * CLoses: #179508: chrony(c|d) show wrong version numbers Removed spurious version.h. Files: 5187f407d683643a0fb6993ea8f70954 677 admin extra chrony_1.19-4.dsc fbbaac9d1b5edf9013c23bd256fb70c7 113867 admin extra chrony_1.19-4.diff.gz e698b2f52912408bfb4b2c75517063cb 290736 admin extra chrony_1.19-4_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPkATqfc1CeQKxb5hAQGIWAQAlMcZMONikyFob5a5g5HiB8BqrnPFd6qB zpNpKOQtQ2UZ0ffkOJtvJhs+hK1tDwWciFez6j8pi2dSEjttY6Zf6ZZNM601U+S4 qCDbAz+IkOatv4QOjJq4B8NwetlBJFdWLjOYTRtCwr7rt6YwfyznGo4G1uKHk48k QQHRT1FxJdE= =qd/Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-4.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-4.diff.gz chrony_1.19-4.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-4.dsc chrony_1.19-4_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-4_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted chrony 1.19-2 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:00:00 -0600 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.19-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net Closes: 100879 124091 Changes: chrony (1.19-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Closes: #100879 unnecessary dependency on libm Applied patch from Zack Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Closes: #124091 the force-reload command of /etc/init.d/chrony should use the -r option. Added -r option. Files: b31a0d2aed35d413ed0bcc7354b39f03 668 admin extra chrony_1.19-2.dsc a99275e0bca7b02e8e308417cc5c8c80 113466 admin extra chrony_1.19-2.diff.gz 381e7a6fe44b3590a592ace995cfeb70 290188 admin extra chrony_1.19-2_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPjiMc/c1CeQKxb5hAQGWeAQArZZ7hs/10Qpn9YTU7UuXE0eIV6YtfgjC F2UJHJvAMNG6oe3wslC5bkfbt1aoRuLsYQYkezQzn2rEaZc4Ej4MyOL+H8WosL7q XMeBiE2BWtH7j/oX5SAgf8Wx+XIke9gFkjWG2NQoGgTNJy2Hp6pnyfYdRNm5A17a DOPjzJ/1mPI= =h8e8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.19-2.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-2.diff.gz chrony_1.19-2.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-2.dsc chrony_1.19-2_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-2_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted chrony 1.19-1 (i386 source)
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:00:00 -0600
Source: chrony
Binary: chrony
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.19-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
chrony - Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net
Closes: 100879 103447 113840 124087 161350 176130 178101 178338
Changes:
chrony (1.19-1) unstable; urgency=low
.
* New upstream release.
* Closes: #178338 New upstream version fixes crashes caused by adjtimex
failure
* Closes: #178101 /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/chrony installed with
incorrect permissions
This bug was previously reported and fixed in 18-1
* Closes: #176130 got an error when I use ppp_on_boot
Changed 'update-rc.d chrony defaults 83' to
'update-rc.d chrony defaults 14' in init.d so that chrony
will come up before ppp.
* Added code to postinst to read /etc/default/rcS and
set rtconutc appropriately in chrony.conf.
* Rewrote password generator in postinst.
* Closes: #100879 unnecessary dependency on libm
I don't know why this wasn't closed months ago.
* Closes: #103447 typo in /etc/init.d/chrony
* Closes: #124087 problems with /etc/init.d/chrony
Fixed script.
* Closes: #161350 /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/chrony cat unnecessary
Fixed scripts.
* Closes: #113840 ntp has been split - add conflicts?
Added ntp-simple and ntp-refclock to conflicts.
Files:
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chrony_1.19-1.dsc
to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-1.dsc
chrony_1.19-1_i386.deb
to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19-1_i386.deb
chrony_1.19.orig.tar.gz
to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.19.orig.tar.gz
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Accepted pppstatus 0.4.2-5 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:00:00 +0600 Source: pppstatus Binary: pppstatus Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.4.2-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: pppstatus - console-based PPP status monitor Closes: 163089 Changes: pppstatus (0.4.2-5) unstable; urgency=low . * Added log rotation script. * Added handler to dump log on SIGINT and SIGTERM. * Added handler to read config files on SIGHUP. * Added code to stat /var/lib/pppX-up in is_online() and added ip-up.d and ip-down.d scripts to create and destroy that file as ppp goes up and down. This allows pppstatus to work properly with demand dialing. * Applied patch from Craig Ringer to add support for 512k/128k ADSL. * Closes: #163089 pppstatus: add support for 512k/128k ADSL * Fixed Makefile so pppstatus.o depends on pppstatus.h. Files: 4d5b13ee52c3c95e32288bf566fab1b8 688 net optional pppstatus_0.4.2-5.dsc 266f69af2605a1862797f065fbbd9911 11319 net optional pppstatus_0.4.2-5.diff.gz 84175841914f27fb8df7337a41e4c7a9 29216 net optional pppstatus_0.4.2-5_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBPheFePc1CeQKxb5hAQG/vgQAl+o5XCkW/h7PJSd1Mdapsm65HtSV3PRy kxE5wZIABStZ7gLBRm9hWOL1ExGhhxJHo8apDcNiI/qezBgpkyi0IsPEClHDXFbe k6CAtxNyk20aQP3zWwXTRjtDSAbUCW2I7Gz8aW+c1ReN/sVms3r5o4CSnz5sgIEq 09Qx/wZvcfg= =76oy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: pppstatus_0.4.2-5.diff.gz to pool/main/p/pppstatus/pppstatus_0.4.2-5.diff.gz pppstatus_0.4.2-5.dsc to pool/main/p/pppstatus/pppstatus_0.4.2-5.dsc pppstatus_0.4.2-5_i386.deb to pool/main/p/pppstatus/pppstatus_0.4.2-5_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted pppconfig 2.1 (all source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:00:00 -0600 Source: pppconfig Binary: pppconfig Architecture: source all Version: 2.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: pppconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring ppp Closes: 129871 153436 170494 Changes: pppconfig (2.1) unstable; urgency=low . * Remove all trailing newlines from secrets file, add one ahead of new entry, and add a trailing newline. * Closes: #153436 pppconfig: adds non carriage return terminated lines into /etc/ppp/pap-secrets * Rewrote dialogbox() to use pipe/fork/exec instead of backtics. This allowed me to remove all the quoting intended to protect strings against the shell. This will make quoting and escaping chat and pppd special characters much easier. * Changed some regexps to eq's in secrets_file() /get/ section. * Closes: #170494 dummy user\ crashes pppconfig Fixed 0dns-up to stop looking for USEPEERDNS as pppd apparently no longer exports it. Fixes several informally reported bugs. * Added code to handle MS_DNS variables to used by ipppd to pass nameservers to 0dns-up. * Closes: #129871 Use MS DNS does not work if using ipppd Files: bd93cdd3208fe0164aaa0c39e7d9d7fb 591 base optional pppconfig_2.1.dsc ad50510b47bac59c08ed4121d22b1e11 28711 base optional pppconfig_2.1.tar.gz 166e5bf9918d6affacb9beee563a007b 27446 base optional pppconfig_2.1_all.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBPf/3t/c1CeQKxb5hAQGlFAQAnIFBx9+gfkqqWxBJgcKN2t2HcNDASHxI Kkp/zMl2yhEbAM+XYOlj01SFNMOVjTQqZoY/N2rAJ74eAXVv9uAeZ1v2533VWLyb VSE2qw4loM6ewj4mT4YqBimWL6FFbReQjpjmb6MPxkn+0smY6PPw2seDfGi08MJZ mov6dBvE33o= =UvWc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: pppconfig_2.1.dsc to pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.1.dsc pppconfig_2.1.tar.gz to pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.1.tar.gz pppconfig_2.1_all.deb to pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.1_all.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
Thomas Bushnell writes: I believe at this point you are raising FUD. I believe I was attempting to discuss the subject calmly and rationally while avoiding inflammatory language such as you are raising FUD. The license on Unicode explicitly grants permission to make such derivatives, if they even are such, in free programs. Reference? I don't recall seeing this mentioned earlier in this thread, and it is not at all clear from a quick perusal of the copyright data on the Unicode site that the license for the file in question is DFSG-compliant. Could you tell me what I am missing? BTW the copy of the file on my system (installed by perl-modules) lacks the apparently required disclaimer. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
Thomas Bushnell writes: The copyright is on the *file* and not on the data,... Did I say it was? ...and certainly not on the *information* which the file contains. An instantiation of that information could be considered a derivative of the copyrighted work. My second paragraph explains one reason why it might not be. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
Thomas Bushnel writes: A program can use the algorithms specified by Unicode without any copying of Unicode, and can thus be entirely free. What is UnicodeData.txt for? Do programs actually use it in some way, or is it just a reference for programmers, like the description of a protocol? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: description writing guide
will be displayed. You can assume that there will usually be a way to see the whole extended description. You may include information about dependencies and so forth in the extended description, if you wish. Do not use tab characters. Their effect is not predictable. Do not try to linewrap the summary (the part on the same line as the field name `Description') into the extended description. This will not work correctly when the full description is displayed, and makes no sense where only the summary is available. 7.3. Example description in control file for Smail -- Package: smail Version: 3.1.29.1-13 Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recommends: pine | mailx | elm | emacs | mail-user-agent Suggests: metamail Depends: cron, libc5 Conflicts: sendmail Provides: mail-transport-agent Description: Electronic mail transport system. Smail is the recommended mail transport agent (MTA) for Debian. . An MTA is the innards of the mail system - it takes messages from user-friendly mailer programs and arranges for them to be delivered locally or passed on to other systems as required. . In order to make use of it you must have one or more user level mailreader programs such as elm, pine, mailx or Emacs (which has Rmail and VM as mailreaders) installed. If you wish to send messages other than just to other users of your system you must also have appropriate networking support, in the form of IP or UUCP. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
starner writes: If you run most algorithms specified by Unicode, like normalization, capitalization or the bidirectional algorithm, you do it with the use of the data from UnicodeData.txt, whether you copied it from there or copied it from the Unicode book. That's what I thought. Therefor any program that implements any of those algorithms is dependent on the data in UnicodeData.txt. However, if that data can only be usefully expressed in precisely that way (that is, reverse-engineering those algorithms would regenerate the file) then the copyright on the file is probably unenforceable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: description writing guide
Craig Dickson writes: Hmm, you just gave a rule specifically for fixed-width fonts, and now you're tacitly assuming that it applies to variable-width fonts as well? You are supposed to use an n-space between words and an m-space between sentences when typesetting. Using two spaces with fixed-width typefaces is an attempt to approximate that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: description writing guide
Daniel Burrows writes: On the other hand, a proper markup language would be nice. I would be appalled were such a thing to be required. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
Richard Braakman writes: But do you think it's _okay_ for such a file not to be free? /usr/share/perl/5.8.0/unicore/UnicodeData.txt, which I assume is the file you are talking about, contains just a table of data. Unless its creation involved creativity rather than just sweat of the brow it is not protected by copyright. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
Emile van Bergen writes: I'd say that the definition of Unicode, heck even ASCII, involves a fair amount of creativity. I don't doubt that the development of Unicode involved creativity: under current law it probably qualifies as a patentable invention. Inventions and ideas, however, cannot be copyrighted: only creative works reduced to tangible form can. I'm arguing that the _creation_ _of_ _that_ _table_ involved no creativity, not that the invention of Unicode didn't. Is it possible to create other Unicode tables that serve the same purpose as that one and differ from it non-trivially? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: location of UnicodeData.txt
Paul Hampson writes: Patents are civil actions, while copyright violation is criminal,... In the US copyright infringement is usually (not always anymore, but still usually) civil as well. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Accepted gpppon 0.2-4 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:00:00 -0600 Source: gpppon Binary: gpppon Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.2-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: gpppon - A gnome applet that is a wrapper around pon and poff. Changes: gpppon (0.2-4) unstable; urgency=low . * Fixed segfault reported in 160431 by handling failure of opendir. Left bug open because I still don't know why opendir failed. Files: 79794ca349f3be2652ef4670e1bde874 595 net optional gpppon_0.2-4.dsc a5ef2a210d55b8e13028b3b5bf2bf0ef 29578 net optional gpppon_0.2-4.tar.gz b3fb90ffd53bd29fe5aa2752aeb18389 9490 net optional gpppon_0.2-4_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBPc8bOvc1CeQKxb5hAQFzOwQAily15jN+//1eBQbMUeVQJdNX6a6ZFTKN 2aAPRTs0TtOnXpvnZwXymqYK4l8xj4Ocatl4DWQal0OIjadR1PTzPw4veMgLZMuW wfCC+L20kDeCWrqN1arG56w/zBa48dQ0qwLcOY56gVOD8R9QCDQVkVfHU5MyiZjk mlXJH6ECaz0= =E3uT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: gpppon_0.2-4.dsc to pool/main/g/gpppon/gpppon_0.2-4.dsc gpppon_0.2-4.tar.gz to pool/main/g/gpppon/gpppon_0.2-4.tar.gz gpppon_0.2-4_i386.deb to pool/main/g/gpppon/gpppon_0.2-4_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted units 1.81-1 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:30:00 -0600 Source: units Binary: units Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.81-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: units - converts between different systems of units. Closes: 150343 160955 165955 Changes: units (1.81-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream version * Simplified scripts, added Build-Depends * Closes: #150343 New upstream version * Closes: #160955 Something Weird About Kelvin-value User error * Closes: #165955 surveyfoot/intfoot inconsistency Fixed in new upstream Files: 32b8c68a18564ea451696e709df65479 650 utils optional units_1.81-1.dsc 0464af5bada70e1f74ca26d601363029 207937 utils optional units_1.81.orig.tar.gz 04d0d1a26b70e8dfceb6a3ac78e48edf 4150 utils optional units_1.81-1.diff.gz f96b86c36cc91b1c8c2e836f0c74c056 120830 utils optional units_1.81-1_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBPcnVMfc1CeQKxb5hAQEhVwQAizMDdu5Xlye7MEM6Q97+AjWlmuDbwW3F sKpkkt+ByyCeB2Ueg8GW1qEi77duL2s546YZTbkyrNU6EZ7YI3UJGDYJmZ8essJn wenBI3m/+ZFveB6mQkl1yY+J8V+G2lnVfR+CcLWxxwImAxDXXOO72HyBYyZYoGh9 TjpAXrdMhco= =zRz5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: units_1.81-1.diff.gz to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81-1.diff.gz units_1.81-1.dsc to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81-1.dsc units_1.81-1_i386.deb to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81-1_i386.deb units_1.81.orig.tar.gz to pool/main/u/units/units_1.81.orig.tar.gz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accepted chrony 1.18-2 (i386 source)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:00:00 -0600 Source: chrony Binary: chrony Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.18-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: chrony - It sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net. Closes: 56756 98951 99799 101039 104774 105344 138142 139633 142670 162427 163408 163469 167416 Changes: chrony (1.18-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Corrects error in changelog which resulted in uploads being erroneously classified as NMUs. * Closes: #138142, #104774, #142670, #105344, #101039 * Closes: #162427, #56756, #98951, #99799, #139633 * Closes: #163469, #163408, #167416 Files: 70e767f8ba83a967f0f9ab89cd256c5b 667 admin extra chrony_1.18-2.dsc dce940a88b6d94fd809343aa917a0e97 112339 admin extra chrony_1.18-2.diff.gz ccd7fb46e4b4bb69692f48f599fc8d9c 287870 admin extra chrony_1.18-2_i386.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBPcaU8/c1CeQKxb5hAQFW4gQAsf5j9vGrYy2OYkwhizGK+Ifop0UuE4LL 9XN5jGDB0o1YZrtt+5O6VaPs40wfuuVcGMZlmXJ4MYbqS4VHsuUc4ji5akDRcpqI wZy0gUYsmWACyjDvt5f5+aE3ipQT2HTnmqcN1uLyMIN5pcLVKDWAEnHPe0oa7ZPX l1MS8h1ZYck= =5JIF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Accepted: chrony_1.18-2.diff.gz to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.18-2.diff.gz chrony_1.18-2.dsc to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.18-2.dsc chrony_1.18-2_i386.deb to pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.18-2_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chroot administration
Russell Coker writes: If software can't be freely used for any purpose then it can't be released under the GPL. The NSA assert that they have the right to release under the GPL and that therefore the patent issues have been dealt with. Was the work done by NSA employees? If so it can be treated as if it were in the public domain no matter what license NSA attaches to it (that's NSAs work in isolation, of course, not the modified kernel as a whole). As for the Section 7 issue, note that a court judgement or allegation of infringement must 'impose conditions'. Has this happened? If so the other kernel authors may have grounds to sue to stop distribution by whomever the connditions have been imposed upon. If the SCC directly challenge this then they will immediately face the DoJ. SCC can sue you for infringing their patent without sueing NSA, no matter what licensing arrangement you have with NSA. The copyright is irrelevant to the patents. That is what I meant by 'orthogonal'. IMHO until SCC actually initiates legal action their is no GPL violation. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: chroot administration
Shaya Potter writes: At least when I worked at NRL, I thought it created this murky situation of public domain for us citizens (or in US not sure which) but not for anyone else. In the US works of the US government are public domain for everyone. However, it might be able to obtain and enforce copyrights in the jurisdictions of other governments. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: chroot administration
Russell Coker writes: As the US government is prohibited from owning copyright they definately can't get a copyright in their own jurisdiction,... The US government definitely is allowed to own copyrights. The restriction is on _enforcing_ their copyrights on works of which they are author. ...and possibly can't apply for one in another jurisdiction (depending on interpretation). And on the jurisdiction. The NSA paid a sum of money (rumored to be $2M) to SCC to write a Linux kernel patch to be distributed under the GPL which implements their patents. Then most likely either SCC owns the copyright or they assigned it to NSA. The issue is that SCC was paid to write code for GPL release. Claiming otherwise would probably be a breach of their contract with the NSA... Which only NSA can enforce. My first guess is that if SCC were to start enforcing its patents against you then Linus et al could sue NSA to stop distributing the patched kernel and NSA in turn could sue SCC for specific performance. Perhaps it would be possible to use the FOIA to get the terms of the contract? Maybe NSA's lawyers already thought of all this. I think it is perfectly legal and safe to distribute and use the patches now, but it seems possible that SCC could start enforcing its patents at any time, thereby stopping distribution. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: chroot administration
Russell Coker writes: They don't apply to SE Linux either, the NSA says that SE Linux is licensed under the GPL only. If anyone wants to dispute that then they have to sue the NSA... The licensing of the software is orthogonal to the licensing of the patents. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Antigen found =*.pif file
Martin Waitz writes: i guess antigen didn't specify any @ in From:, and the other mta's filled in their own name for some reason... That's the default behavior of all MTA's I'm familiar with. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
Jochen writes: Sorry! Maybe I did not give your patches enough credit. The credit doesn't matter. It's just that the fact they weren't mentioned in the changelog led me to believe that they had not been applied. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
Jochen writes: I think I incorporated all gdialog patches you sent to the BTS. Or did I miss something? All those bugs appear to have been fixed, though I see no mention of my patches in the changelog. In any case I would be willing to incorporate any further patches sent to me. I don't have time to work on it now. As I said before, try 'pppconfig --gdialog'. In my opinion the real problem with gdialog is, that the source is really a mess... You can say that again. ...and upstream seems not to be very interested about the program. So if we want something to be fixed, we will probably havt to do it ourselves. Perhaps you should offer to take it over, or just fork it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
Sean Etc. writes: So, back to my point (wow, I actually had one?), should there be an alternatives for dialog, so we can at least simplify the scripts to launch xdialog when X11 is around, launch text dialog otherwise, and leave the actual GUI implementation of the xdialog program up to the sysadmin? Is xdialog _fully_ dialog-compatible? I had pppconfig set up to use gdialog when available for a while but I had to drop it because gdialog kept breaking. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
Sean Middleditch writes: Perhaps bugs should be filed against them, for their lack of compatibility, if indeed there are problems? I filed a bug against gdialog (gnome-utils, to be exact) with a complete set of patches a long, _long_ time ago. I haven't looked at xdialog lately. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
I wrote: I haven't looked at xdialog lately. I just did. It almost works. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dialog alternatives
Sean Middleditch writes:
What, pray tell, doesn't work?
The menus never show all the items even when there are only three (the
scrollbar works, though). It messes up the text in menus that work fine
with dialog ('Properties of Provider', frex). Try 'pppconfig --xdialog'.
Also, since I wouldn't know what things to test, how badly is gdialog
broken?
At the moment it cuts off the bottoms of my larger menus (and has no
scrollbar). After half a dozen instances of having it suddenly break I
decided that I shouldn't subject the users to it as the default. It is
still available via 'pppconfig --gdialog'.
There are no filed bugs on gnome-utils regarding missing functionality...
I'm pretty busy with real life right now, but feel free to run 'pppconfig
--gdialog', observe the results, and file bugs with patches.
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Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.
Evolution added an X-Evolution header to each message for status purposes. Merely _looking_ at a message with Evolution alters it? That is _truly_ evil. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists
Wilmer writes: I don't like mailing lists at all so I'm looking for a way to read the debian lists using Slrn. Leafnode does not support mailing lists... Then either use Gnus which lets you treat mailing lists just like newsgroups or install a local mail-news gateway using something like mailagent. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Quake 2 sources GPL'd
Hamish writes: Regarding packaging the Quake sources for educational benefit; is that really of any benefit? Would the Quake package include everything one would need to create a Quake game? Perhpas those who wish to package it could write and include a simple Hello world type example. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: ITP: kernel-patch-selinux
Russell Coker wrote: I intend to package the kernel patch for NSA Security Enhanced Linux. Below is all the details on licenses. My interpretation of the below license details (copied from the web site) is that the kernel patch is under the GPL and everything is fine. However is the issue about warranty exclusion etc which requires agreement before download going to force me to use non-free for my package? Note that http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/src-disclaim.html begins Before downloading this software... and is titled Legal Notices, not License (and has disclaim in the URL). I think that means that _you_ are required to agree before downloading from their site. Someone installing your Debian package is not downloading from their site and so has no need to read the notice. http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/license.html makes it very clear that the license terms are DFSG compliant. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: A language by any other name
I wrote: Surely there are locales for welsh and Scottish gaelic? Keith G. Murphy writes: I should think not. Those are two *very* different Celtic languages. Nor did I say otherwise. Read my sentence as Surely there is a locale for welsh and also a locale for Scottish gaelic. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: A language by any other name
Nick writes: So using GB as a country code is incorrect, as Great Britain is *NOT* a country, really. You better have a talk with the ISO about that. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: A language by any other name
Nick Phillips writes: Besides, it was probably the ignorant Brits on the committee that decided on the codes that insisted that they didn't like UK :( But GB is listed opposite United Kingdom, not Great Britain. A political compromise, I guess. I assume residents of Northern Ireland supposed to use GB? BTW, there appears to be no Welsh locale. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: A language by any other name
Gustavo Noronha Silva writes: nah that's not it... if I understand it correctly, united states would map to es_US and england would map to en_EN(UK?)... es_US would be spanish as used in the US, wouldn't it? How about this: United States maps to: Please choose a language a) english b) spanish and a) would map to en_US and b) to es_US. I believe that en_UK would be for Ukrainian english. The mind boggles. Well, kdelibs2g installed /usr/share/locale/en_UK/LC_MESSAGES/kde.mo here. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: A language by any other name
Steve Langasek writes: en_UK is English as spoken in the United Kingdom. While en_GB is english as spoken in Great Britain. Perhpas one of the residents thereof can explain the difference. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: A language by any other name
Stephen Stafford writes: en_UK doesn't exist as a locale AFAIK, it is en_GB I believe. http://www.bcpl.net/~jspath/isocodes.html lists UK as United Kingdom and GB as Great Britain but digitalid.verisign.com/ccodes.html lists only GB and as United Kingdom. It lists nothing for UK. I guess UK is one of those historical leftovers that http://www.bcpl.net/~jspath/isocodes.html admits to including. I guess somebody needs to tell the KDE folks that they are living in the 1960's. The difference between United KIngdom and Great Britain is rather blurred. Yes. I was interested in the difference between the two dialects of english :) However, it appears to be that Great Britain comprises England, Scotland and Wales, whereas United Kindom adds Northern Ireland to that. Surely there are locales for welsh and Scottish gaelic? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: A language by any other name
Federico writes: ...spain for spanish, italy for italian, france for french, etc. everybody is accepting that on other languages, don't see why the americans should do different... Right. Swiss for Switzerland, belgian for Belgium, canadian for Canada, mexican for Mexico, brazilian for Brazil... -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: A language by any other name
michael heyes writes: Don't forget Dutch, French and German in Belgium. French and english in Canada, spanish and mayan in Guatemala, german and french in Switzerland... and yet the US gets singled out for criticism because we refer to our most common language as english. Why? There is no one to one relationship between languages and nations, or even a one to many relationship. Are US spanish speakers to be told that they must live in Spain just because they asserted that their preferred language was spanish? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Chrony mailing list needs a home
The chrony mailing list is a Yahoo Group at the moment. This less than optimal. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for a (free) home? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Chrony mailing list needs a home
Joey Hess writes: Well I guess you could use sourceforge. I assume that the author has his reasons for not wanting to use Sourceforge. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Chrony mailing list needs a home
Carlos Laviola writes: Register your project... Not my project. I'm just the Debian maintainer. I was just trying to do the upstream author a favor. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Proposing task-debian
Matt Zimmerman wrote: Perhaps it would be useful to create a new archive section for Debian-specific tools. Christian Hammers writes: I like this idea. Do others have other opinions about this? I like it also. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: BTS feature?
Steve M. Robbins writes: I don't follow your reasoning. Are you suggesting that the bug submitters will be less annoyed if the bug is closed after 30 days, rather than immediately? Why would that be? Many bug submitters never respond to requests for additional information. Example: let's say I receive a bug against pppconfig which says I typed pon and nothing happened!. I conclude that it is probably operator error and send a request for clarification to bugid[EMAIL PROTECTED] In the meantime the submitter gets around to reading the pon man page and realizes that his connection was up all the time. He is so embarrassed that he doesn't respond. Consequently, at the end of 30 days the bug goes away by itself. Had he responded to my request, the bug would have become permanent and I would have to deal with it. I would think that this autoclose feature would be quite popular with maintainers of packages that receive large numbers of spurious or duplicate bug reports. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Proposing task-debian
Vince Mulhollon writes: Oh, I don't know if it [task-abc-remove] is an ugly hack. The obvious thing to do when one wants to remove a package is to remove the package. To an ordinary user task-abc is a package. He is not going to figure out that the way to remove it is to install another package. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Proposing task-debian
Anthony Towns writes: ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex and emacs out from standard? As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that such stretching of the definition of task may confuse users. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Proposing task-debian
Matt Zimmerman writes: I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced that it makes sense as a task. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Proposing task-debian
Matt Zimmerman writes: I think it makes as much sense as the existing task packages. Many of which make no more sense than would task-emacs. Perhaps task-devel-emacs would be the logical analogue. Why would someone who wants emacs so that he can read news and mail with gnus and work on his Web page install task-devel-emacs? That's obviously for people who want to hack on emacs. How about an ordinary meta-package named emacs? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?
Dwayne C. Litzenberger writes: So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? Undo. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?
Federico Di Gregorio writes: or am i missing something? In addition to the things Ben mentioned, dependencies and broken installs. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: X and runlevels
Frank writes: Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had installed a *dm? a) You just made some changes in X that caused it to lock up the display. Magic sysreq got you out alive, but now you would like to boot to a console to fix it. b) Your monitor blew up. You've got a replacement on hand, but it won't work (and may even be damaged) with the current X settings. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP on Potato
Kenneth Scharf writes: Worldnet uses passwords with 'funny' characters so you have to enter them 'quoted'. The pppconfig program in slink instructed you to do this, but the one in potato did not mention this fact. Please file a bug and include an example of a password with the funny characters. Pppconfig is supposed to deal with that automatically but it appears that I never fully implemented the feature. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality
Joey Hess writes: Ideally, if debconf were used, this one question would be asked the first time you install a daemon, and all other daemons would inherit it thereafter. Quite easily done with debconf.. That's the ideal, but what is the policy now? Should chrony ask a question in its postinst or start up chronyd without permission? Right now policy seems to me to strongly oppose questions but say nothing about starting daemons. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Ethernet newbee failure
Dale Scheetz writes: The only thing that looks strange here is the Bcast: and Mask:, but I didn't set them. It isn't clear that this is the failure either. The ifconfig output looks fine. What does 'route -n' say? -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
I wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Joseph Carter writes: That's been taken... Has been taken by... ? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
I wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Erick Kinnee writes: Stampede Linux Stampede? I would have expected something to do with cattle. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a writes: I choose freedom, it's one that summarises it all, and trying to find an animal that, universally, would give the impression of freedom, I limited the choice to two bird species: - eagles, Fish eaters. Also symbolic of the Roman Republic and the United States government. - hawks Eaters of mice and baby rabbits (the red-tails around here, anyway). Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Installation Profiles [was: Re: Reality check!]
Paul Seelig writes: Myself i do prefer XEmacs over all other variants but wouldn't mind if i had to install it later on my own. I prefer emacs, bu I also wouldn't mind if i had to install it later on my own. In fact, I would not mind at all if emacs was optional. IMHO it would be much wiser to provide a useful *minimum* in each category upon which people can base their own choices. That is what I originally thought the profiles were for. As it stands Basic is far too basic for being an acceptable minimum and the other profiles are far beyond being a truly useable minimum. Might it be possible to include fewer packages in each profile and then present the user with a list of additional packages that might be of interest to them given that they have chosen this particular profile? Something like You have installed the Scientific Workstation profile. The following additional packages may be of interest ... -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Intent to package gbdk.
The reason for non-free is this in copyright: Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any purpose, subject to the provisions described below, without fee is ^^^ Have you contacted the author about this? This can be read as You are forbidden to charge a fee for copies or as I do not require that you pay me a fee for copying. The author may intend the latter. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Intent to package gbdk.
Ben Pfaff writes: That doesn't make it non-free. It's in the standard BSD license. The word 'fee' does not occur in the standard BSD license. It does not mention money at all. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Intent to package xfntbase, xfnt75, etc.
Branden Robinson writes: John Hasler might like it but there are about 400 other people to ask. I look forward to hearing from them. I just want to see the damn thing fixed. Santiago has proposed a workable solution and offered to implement it. Barring a better solution, I will be the one to do this. The xbase dummy package is already implemented in my current build tree and it makes sense for these all to be generated from the same source package. Good. Do it and beat him to it, and then it will be done. Is there a way to have a dpkg --set-selections call lurk in the background until the current dpkg process ends, like update-menus does now? That would be a far cleaner solution. That requires that a complex and fragile program be used in an unusual and complex way. The dummy package solution is, by comparison, simple and robust. We know how to implement it and we can be confident that it will work. It's so damn simple that even I could do it (don't worry: I won't). That's a clean solution. At any rate, other proposals need to be submitted and discussed. The split/renaming problem has been known for months. Variations on Santiagos's proposal have been put forward several times. There have been no other workable ones I am aware of (I agree that backing out the name change is not a good idea). Doesn't it seem that they would have been offered by now if they existed? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
