Re: Building Debian from Sources

2008-12-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Mustafa KYR wrote:
 Hello,
 I am a new engineer and I was just a debian user in my former life. I want
 to build debian linux from sources to understand it all. I spent lots of
 time during search about it.

I'm not sure how much building from source will help your understanding,
but anyway, http://oldpeople.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ is probably the
thing closest to your request.


Thiemo


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Accepted istanbul 0.2.2-4.1 (source powerpc)

2008-10-31 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:49:01 +0100
Source: istanbul
Binary: istanbul
Architecture: source powerpc
Version: 0.2.2-4.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Luca Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 istanbul   - Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video
Closes: 500418
Changes: 
 istanbul (0.2.2-4.1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Re-enable builds for any architecture. (Closes: #500418)
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Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.18.0-2 (source all mips)

2008-10-25 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:06:48 +0100
Source: sbcl
Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 1:1.0.18.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sbcl   - A Common Lisp compiler and development system
 sbcl-doc   - Documentation for Steel Bank Common Lisp
 sbcl-source - Source code files for SBCL
Closes: 503255
Changes: 
 sbcl (1:1.0.18.0-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix cffi NULL pointer dereferencing. (Closes: #503255)
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Accepted lcdproc 0.5.2-1.2 (source powerpc)

2008-10-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Architecture: source powerpc
Version: 0.5.2-1.2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Jose Luis Tallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 lcdproc- LCD display driver daemon and clients
Closes: 416261
Changes: 
 lcdproc (0.5.2-1.2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Support all architectures except s390.
   * Add support for kfreebsd, thanks Cyril Brulebois. (Closes: #416261)
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Accepted python2.4 2.4.5-5.2 (source all mips)

2008-09-29 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:19:46 +
Source: python2.4
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idle-python2.4 python2.4-doc python2.4-dbg
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 2.4.5-5.2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 idle-python2.4 - An IDE for Python (v2.4) using Tkinter
 python2.4  - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4)
 python2.4-dbg - Debug Build of the Python Interpreter (version 2.4)
 python2.4-dev - Header files and a static library for Python (v2.4)
 python2.4-doc - Documentation for the high-level object-oriented language 
Python 
 python2.4-examples - Examples for the Python language (v2.4)
 python2.4-minimal - A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.4)
Closes: 500383
Changes: 
 python2.4 (2.4.5-5.2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Expand platform definition patch to regenerate configure, th patch
 was ineffective in the previous upload.
 Closes: #500383.
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Accepted python2.4 2.4.5-5.1 (source all mips)

2008-09-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:17:31 +0100
Source: python2.4
Binary: python2.4 python2.4-minimal python2.4-examples python2.4-dev 
idle-python2.4 python2.4-doc python2.4-dbg
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 2.4.5-5.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
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Python 
 python2.4-examples - Examples for the Python language (v2.4)
 python2.4-minimal - A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.4)
Closes: 498857 500383
Changes: 
 python2.4 (2.4.5-5.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Expand copyright notice to cover licenses of linked against libraries.
 Closes: #498857.
   * Introduce new platform definitions for alpha, hppa, mips, mipsel, sparc.
 Closes: #500383.
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Accepted python2.5 2.5.2-11.1 (source all mips)

2008-09-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:04:23 +0100
Source: python2.5
Binary: python2.5 python2.5-minimal python2.5-examples python2.5-dev 
idle-python2.5 python2.5-dbg
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 2.5.2-11.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 idle-python2.5 - An IDE for Python (v2.5) using Tkinter
 python2.5  - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5)
 python2.5-dbg - Debug Build of the Python Interpreter (version 2.5)
 python2.5-dev - Header files and a static library for Python (v2.5)
 python2.5-examples - Examples for the Python language (v2.5)
 python2.5-minimal - A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.5)
Closes: 498477 499132
Changes: 
 python2.5 (2.5.2-11.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Expand copyright notice to cover licenses of linked against libraries.
 Closes: #498477.
   * Introduce new platform definitions for alpha, hppa, mips, mipsel, sparc.
 Closes: #499132.
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Accepted gnudatalanguage 0.9~rc1-1.1 (source powerpc)

2008-08-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:00:55 +0200
Source: gnudatalanguage
Binary: gnudatalanguage
Architecture: source powerpc
Version: 0.9~rc1-1.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Gürkan Sengün [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gnudatalanguage - Free IDL compatible incremental compiler
Closes: 495470
Changes: 
 gnudatalanguage (0.9~rc1-1.1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Fix FTBFS on arm, armel, mips, mipsel due to invalid LDFLAGS line.
 (Closes: #495470)
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Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.18.0-1 (source all mips)

2008-07-05 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:00:48 +0100
Source: sbcl
Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 1:1.0.18.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sbcl   - A Common Lisp compiler and development system
 sbcl-doc   - Documentation for Steel Bank Common Lisp
 sbcl-source - Source code files for SBCL
Changes: 
 sbcl (1:1.0.18.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release. Major changes:
  + minor incompatible change: SB-SPROF:WITH-PROFILING now by default
profiles only the current thread.
  + minor incompatible change: changes to SYMBOL-VALUE of constants
defined with DEFCONSTANT now signal an error.
  + enhancement: SB-SPROF now has support for wallclock profiling,
and is also able to profile specific threads. REPORT output
has also additional sorting options.
  + enhancement: better pretty-printing of DEFPACKAGE forms.  (Thanks
to Michael Weber)
  + optimization: structure allocation has been improved
** constructors created by non-toplevel DEFSTRUCTs are ~40% faster.
** out of line constructors are ~10% faster.
** inline constructors are ~15% faster.
** inline constructors are capable of dynamic extent allocation
   (generally on x86 and x86-64, in some cases on other platforms
   as well.)
  + optimization: simple uses of HANDLER-CASE and HANDLER-BIND no
longer cons.
  + optimization: file compiler is now able to coalesce non-circular
lists, non-base strings, and bit-vectors. Additionally, constants
are never referenced through SYMBOL-VALUE at runtime.
  + optimization: code defining methods on PRINT-OBJECT (and other
generic functions in the COMMON-LISP package) now loads faster.
  + bug fix: EAI_NODATA is deprecated since RFC 3493. Stop using it
in sb-bsd-sockets.
  + bug fix: if COMPILE-FILE aborts due to an unwind, the partial
fasl is now deleted. (reported by Attila Lendvai)
  + bug fix: READ-LINE always returned NIL for the last line in files.
(reported by Yoshinori Tahara)
  + bug fix: more accurate disassembly annotations of foreign function
calls.  (thanks to Andy Hefner)
  + bug fix: trimming non-simple strings and non-string string
designators when the there is nothing to trim works properly.
(thanks to James Knight)
  + new feature: SB-POSIX bindings for mlockall, munlockall, and setsid.
(thanks to Travis Cross)
  + fixed some bugs revealed by Paul Dietz' test suite:
** NIL is a valid function name (regression at 1.0.13.38)
** FILL on lists was missing its return value (regression at 1.0.12.27)
** STRING-TRIM, STRING-LEFT-TRIM, and STRING-RIGHT-TRIM did not respect
   fill pointers properly (regression at 1.0.12.23)
** STRING-TRIM, STRING-LEFT-TRIM, and STRING-RIGHT-TRIM did not respect
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Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.17.0-1 (source all mips)

2008-06-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:27:19 +0100
Source: sbcl
Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 1:1.0.17.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sbcl   - A Common Lisp compiler and development system
 sbcl-doc   - Documentation for Steel Bank Common Lisp
 sbcl-source - Source code files for SBCL
Changes: 
 sbcl (1:1.0.17.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release. Major changes:
  + temporary regression: user code can no longer allocate closure
variable storage on stack, due to bug 419 without explicitly
requesting it. Please consult sbcl-devel for advice if you need to
use this feature in the meanwhile.
  + new feature: runtime argument --control-stack-size can be used to
adjust thread default control stack size.
  + enhancement: improved TIME output
** all times are reported using the measured accuracy (milliseconds
   for real and GC times, microseconds for everything else.)
** processor cycle counts on x86 and x86-64.
** interpreted forms are counted for both evaluator modes.
** number of lambdas converted by the compiler is reported.
** CPU percentage report (computed from real and total run time.)
** more comprehensive run time reporting, using a condenced format
** interperted form, lambda, and page fault counts are omitted
   when zero.
  + optimization: ADJOIN and PUSHNEW are upto ~70% faster in normal
SPEED policies.
  + optimization: APPEND is upto ~10% faster in normal SPEED policies.
  + optimization: two argument forms of LAST are upto ~10% faster
in normal SPEED policies.
  + optimization: NCONC no longer needs to heap cons its REST list
in normal SPEED policies.
  + bug fix: SB-FLUID build feature no longer breaks the build. (thanks
to Sidney Markowitz)
  + bug fix: UNION and NUNION work with :TEST-NOT once more,
regression since 1.0.9.1. (thanks to Eric Marsden)
  + bug fix: result of MAKE-ARRAY can be stack allocated - regression
since 1.0.15.36. (thanks to Paul Khuong)
  + bug fix: LAST when always returned the whole list when given a bignum
as the second argument.
  + bug fix: dynamic extent allocation of nested lists and vectors
could leak to otherwise accessible parts.
  + bug fix: invalid optimization of heap-allocated alien variable
reference.
  + bug fix: fasl header checking is less vulnerable to different
platform word lengths.
  + bug fix: more correct assembler syntax for GNU binutils
2.18.50.0.4 support.  (thanks to Marijn Schouten)
  + bug fix: fix ECASE warnings from CMUCL-as-xc-host.  (reported by
Andreas Franke)
  + bug fix: the fopcompiler can handle LOCALLY forms (with no
declarations) successfully.  (reported by Attila Lendvai)
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Re: Current build status of the mips port

2008-05-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Luk Claes wrote:
 Hi Thiemo
 
 Thanks for this status report.
 
 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
  I went again through the mips build problems and collected the appended
  list which records the current state, with a few annotations added.
 
  Needs retry
  ---
 
 All given back when still needed. Please don't include packages in such
 a listing that have a sane wanna-build state: packages in Needs-Build or
 Dep-Wait or Building (for a normal amount of time)...

FTR, this list was only meant as an overview, not as a means to prod
buildd admins or the release team to do something with it. :-)
I planned to request give-backs via mail to -release.

All the items below need further analysis.

  Maybe needs retry (TODO: check)
  ---
  -- Qt ABI, fix by waiting for next Qt version --
  kde4libs# needs rebuild to fix ABI (or wait for new version)
  kdebase-runtime
  merkaartor
  universalindentgui
  sailcut
  psi
  ktoon   # Broken qt ABI
 
 Do they or do they not need wanna-build magick?

I believe they will need only retries once a new kde4libs is uploaded
to unstable (which will fix the current qreal/float/double ABI breakage
on mips/mipsel). That said, I haven't tested if that's enough.

  -- ghc6 stuff --
  washngo # vm exhausted, (arm armel mips mipsel powerpc)
  haskell-haskell-src # vm exhausted, (mips mipsel alpha)
  lhs2tex
  pandoc
  gtkrsync
  highlighting-kate
  haskell-happs-data
  haskell-happs-ixset
  haskell-happs-server
  haskell-happs-state
  haskell-happs-util
  haskelldb-hsql-mysql
  haskelldb-hsql-odbc
  haskelldb-hsql-postgresql
  haskelldb-hsql-sqlite3
  arch2darcs
  darcs-buildpackage
  hpodder
 
 Will these probably build fine when retried?

At least washngo still fails, I haven't tested the rest of it.

  -- other --
  mlt # (ia64 mips mipsel powerpc)
  vdr-plugin-live
  kde-style-qtcurve # not reproducible, but see #462001, (amd64 arm hppa mips 
  powerpc s390 sparc)
  mozart
  gpsdrive
  libgtk-java # needs libcairo-java-dev
  qtnx# needs libnxcl1
  tuxguitar
  music-applet# needs libxml-parser-perl, (mips mipsel powerpc)
  mplayer # (hppa mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
  edenmath.app
  gnome-chemistry-utils
  virt-manager
  gsynaptics
  ucspi-proxy
  epiphany-extensions
 
 What does this list mean?

Those _may_ build now, but that's untested.

  Should be in in P-a-s (or not-for-us?)
  --
 
 Did you contact P-a-s administrators (and buildd maintainers) about it?

I mail the P-a-s administrator about once a year, I never got a response.


Thiemo


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Current build status of the mips port

2008-05-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
I went again through the mips build problems and collected the appended
list which records the current state, with a few annotations added.


Thiemo


Debian mips port, status 2007-05-16. See also:
http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?suite=unstablea=mipspriority=
Architecture-independent problems, failed packages and Dep-waits are
not systematically tracked. The mipsel port is only incidentially tracked.
==

Maybe fixed (TODO: remove when actually ok)
---
cacao   # CTX_EPC undeclared, patch sent, #449185, #479529, fixed in 
experimental, reopened
root-system # partial patch sent, #434855, fixed differently upstream
# - but FTBFS in experimental with new version
gddrescue   # patch sent, #474426
guile-1.8   # segfaults (ia64 mips mipsel), patch sent, #481378
firebird2.0 # patch sent, #481208
scribus # was disabled for old toolchain bug, re-enable requested, 
#481441
libflorist  # odd gnat-4.1 dep, patch sent, #479075
tightvnc# Needs imake tweak, patch sent, #481444
lasso   # botched java check, patch sent, #479737, (mips mipsel s390)
soci# patch sent, #481499


Needs retry
---
usepackage  # not reproducible, (mips mipsel)
openarena   # not reproducible, (mips)

hildon-thumbnail # (mipsel)
libhildonfm # (mips) [mipsel needs dep-wait on hildon-thumbnail]
hildon-desktop  # (sparc) [mips mipsel need dep-wait on libhildonfm]

helium  # (mipsel powerpc)
netatalk# (mips)

illuminator # (arm mips mipsel)
libgdal-grass   # (mips mipsel powerpc)
hplip   # (mips mipsel)


Maybe needs retry (TODO: check)
---
-- Qt ABI, fix by waiting for next Qt version --
kde4libs# needs rebuild to fix ABI (or wait for new version)
kdebase-runtime
merkaartor
universalindentgui
sailcut
psi
ktoon   # Broken qt ABI

-- ghc6 stuff --
washngo # vm exhausted, (arm armel mips mipsel powerpc)
haskell-haskell-src # vm exhausted, (mips mipsel alpha)
lhs2tex
pandoc
gtkrsync
highlighting-kate
haskell-happs-data
haskell-happs-ixset
haskell-happs-server
haskell-happs-state
haskell-happs-util
haskelldb-hsql-mysql
haskelldb-hsql-odbc
haskelldb-hsql-postgresql
haskelldb-hsql-sqlite3
arch2darcs
darcs-buildpackage
hpodder

-- other --
mlt # (ia64 mips mipsel powerpc)
vdr-plugin-live
kde-style-qtcurve # not reproducible, but see #462001, (amd64 arm hppa mips 
powerpc s390 sparc)
mozart
gpsdrive
libgtk-java # needs libcairo-java-dev
qtnx# needs libnxcl1
tuxguitar
music-applet# needs libxml-parser-perl, (mips mipsel powerpc)
mplayer # (hppa mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
edenmath.app
gnome-chemistry-utils
virt-manager
gsynaptics
ucspi-proxy
epiphany-extensions


Broken source
-
-- Bug reported --
monotone# Testsuite too strict, #474280
mklibs  # See #445507
xserver-xorg-video-newport # See #402178
g-wrap  # See #473085
noteedit# See #474896
libjdic-java# doesn't try to build arch-specific packages, #478943
iaxclient   # Needs atomics, #475809
ardour  # See #474422
kaffe   # perl failure, pending, #479716
xcircuit# creates files in clean, #481460
glob2   # See #479872
gst-editor  # See #436324
gnome-cups-manager # See #417209
camelbones  # See #447373, removal requested
haskell-syb-with-class # template haskell, #469890

-- gcc-4.3 induced bugs, no patch --
insighttoolkit  # See #474537, #478950
necpp   # See #474838
gpsim   # See #474796
ttfm# See #474409
asc # See #478838
qtractor# See #481393
dballe  # See #381397

-- bug unreported --
libqglviewer# creates files in clean
galax   # creates files in clean
gigedit # gcc-4.3
gnudatalanguage # gcc-4.3


Should be in in P-a-s (or not-for-us?)
--
-- sys/io.h on (mips mipsel powerpc) --
flashrom
lcd4linux
vbetool
libx86
superiotool
rovclock

-- ocamlopt on !(alpha arm armel hppa ia64 m68k mips mipsel s390) --
ara
spamoracle
whitelister

-- no upstream support for mips/mipsel --
rtai
xen-3
virtualbox-ose
xserver-xorg-video-intel # x86 only
xserver-xorg-video-geode # x86 only
libacpi # x86/ia64 only
flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound # i386 only
eeepc-modules-2.6 # i386 only
cpushare# P2P distributed computing client
systemtap   # needs kprobe
umview  # UML related?
usplash
tuxonice-userui # needs libusplash-dev
brdesktop-artwork # needs libusplash-dev

-- other --
gcj-4.1 # obsolete on mips/mipsel


Unported

-- Hard to port, porting deferred --
qemu# currently no host support upstream
purelibc
llvm-gcc-4.2
openmpi
openafs

-- Maybe needs port (TODO: check) --
freej
xenomai
lcdproc
dphys-kernel-packages
ddccontrol

Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.16.0-2 (source all mips)

2008-05-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.16.0-1 (source all mips)

2008-05-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Source: sbcl
Binary: sbcl sbcl-doc sbcl-source
Architecture: source all mips
Version: 1:1.0.16.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Common Lisp Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sbcl   - A Common Lisp compiler and development system
 sbcl-doc   - Documentation for Steel Bank Common Lisp
 sbcl-source - Source code files for SBCL
Changes: 
 sbcl (1:1.0.16.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Re-allow builds for alpha and sparc.
   * New upstream release. Major changes:
  + minor incompatible change: revert the changes to sb-posix's error
signaling added in 1.0.14.
  + minor incompatible change: change PROBE-FILE back to returning
NIL whenever we can't get a truename, as was the case before 1.0.14.
  + minor incompatible change: SB-BSD-SOCKETS:NAME-SERVICE-ERROR now
inherits from ERROR instead of just CONDITION.
  + new feature: SB-INTROSPECT can provide source locations for instances
as well. (thanks to Tobian Ritterweiler)
  + optimization: binding special variables now generates smaller code
on threaded platforms.
  + optimization: MEMBER and ASSOC are over 50% faster for :TEST #'EQ
and cases where no :TEST is given but the compiler can infer that
the element to search is of type (OR FIXNUM (NOT NUMBER)).
  + optimization: better LOGNOT on fixnums.
  + optimization: modular arithmetic for a particular requested width
is implemented using a tagged representation unless a better
representation is available.
  + fixed bug 423: TRULY-THE and *CHECK-CONSISTENCY* interaction.
  + bug fix: SB-BSD-SOCKETS:MAKE-INET-ADDRESS checks the input string
for wellformedness and returns a specialized vector. (reported by
Francois-Rene Rideau)
  + bug fix: FIND-CLASS was not thread-safe. (reported by Attila Lendvai)
  + bug fix: ~R was broken for vigtillions. (thanks to Luis Oliveira)
  + bug fix: attempt to obtain *SCHEDULER-LOCK* recursively when
unscheduling timer at the same time as another timer fires.
  + bug fix: don't reschedule timers for dead threads.
  + bug fix: periodic polling was broken. (thanks to Espen S Johnsen)
  + bug fix: copying output from RUN-PROGRAM to a stream signalled
bogus errors if select() was interrupted.
  + enhancement: add support for fcntl's struct flock to SB-POSIX.
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Accepted sbcl 1:1.0.15.0-2 (source all mips)

2008-04-04 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Version: 1:1.0.15.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sbcl   - A Common Lisp compiler and development system
 sbcl-doc   - Documentation for Steel Bank Common Lisp
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Closes: 463569
Changes: 
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 .
   * Re-allow builds for mips and mipsel (Closes: #463569)
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Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:40:57AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit :
  
  Due to kernel problems, the mips* buildds haven't been very reliable in
  the past few weeks, creating a lng backlog of packages that need to
  be built. As there seems to be a workaround for the kernel bug, this
  should start getting better from the weekend on. As a maintainer: Just
  wait.
 
 Dear Marc,
 
 it is good news to read that there is a solution being found. However, I
 am a bit confused because previous messages were suggesting that the
 problem was disk speed, not downtime.

The problem is a compound of
1) Not enough RAM (only 512 MB) in some machines, which causes an
   increasing number of package builds to use swap, and some of them
   to evenutually fail to build because of a timeout.
2) Slow on-board PIO IDE, from which the firmware can boot from
3) A kernel-imposed limit of 1 GB when PCI DMA devices (like a SATA
   disk controller) is used.
4) A kernel bug in the cache coherency management which hits PIO IDE,
   and causes instability since kernel 2.6.18. Up to then, the problem
   was mostly papered over by an excessive amount of cache flushing in
   the kernel code. This problem went unnoticed upstream since PIO IDE
   is these days only used on very small/cheap systems, where a
   different code path is used.

Each of those points costs a chunk of performance and makes the
buildds less reliable. The current state is:

4) I tracked this bug down (which was very hard) and wrote a kernel
   patch which waits for upstream review. The code is hairy enough,
   so I don't know yet if it is a proper solution or only a workaround.
   That said, it works fine on my machine (which is the same model than
   the buildd hardware).

3) This was supposedly fixed in kernel 2.6.22+, and works fine on the
   successor model of the hardware. It still fails on the buildd
   hardware, however, so the current choice is between 1GB and fast I/O
   or more RAM and slow I/O. I am working on fixing this bug.

2) The obvious solution is to add SATA disks to the buildds, this is
   currently in the works.

1) Upgrades to 1-2 GB RAM are also currently worked on (or already
   done).

For a properly running machine of this type I expect it is capable
to build ~5% of the unstable archive per day. IOW, the current backlog
should be handled soon.


Thiemo



Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Neil Williams wrote:
[snip]
 As noted elsewhere in this thread, --build can be specified alone but is
 usually only used for specialist builds for i686 on i386 etc. I fail to
 see the merit of proposing that packages add --build to the normal
 Debian build for no reason.

One reason is that a guess via uname will lead to e.g. a mips64-linux
build attempt on a 32 bit userland, just because the kernel is 64 bit.

Generally speaking, such guesses are unreliable in multi-ABI
environments.


Thiemo


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FYI: Current package build status for the mips port

2007-11-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Hello All,

I went through the whole set of failing builds for mips, fixed some
bugs and had at least a cursory look at each package. The result is
the rather terse list I append here.


Thiemo


Debian mips port, buildability status 2007-11-03. See also:
http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?suite=unstablea=mipspriority=
Dep-waits ar not tracked in this list.
===

Maybe fixed (TODO: remove when actually ok)
---
strace  # patch sent, #448802, another one sent to upstream list
gprolog # mips patch restored and sent, #448952
uriparser   # too strict symbol test, #448959
swi-prolog  # very old config.guess, #408076, update promised
sbcl# mips/mipsel accidentally removed, will be back next upload
pulseaudio  # needs newer libatomic-ops, #449125
jvim# patch sent, #273376
cacao   # CTX_EPC undeclared, patch sent, #449185
srtp# patch sent, #439976


Buildd issues (TODO: fix kernel/firmware, talk to admins)
-
libxerces2-java # buildd memory-starved (test-build works)
darcs   # buildd memory-starved (test-build works)
bouncycastle# buildd memory-starved (test-build works)
swt-gtk # buildd memory-starved (test-build works)
pigment # package check cannot be authenticated
netpipe # recorded as uploaded, but missing?
loop-aes# recorded as uploaded, but missing?
rxvt-unicode# not reproducible (test-build works)
sqlitebrowser   # not reproducible (test-build works)
coreutils   # fails tests on buildd, not reproducible for me. (kernel 
issue?)
m-tx# not reproducible, seemingly too relaxed build-dep version
pythonmagick# not reproducible (test-build works)


Broken generic source, bugs reported

defrag  # broken on all architectures, unmaintained?
dak
postman
sear
php4-ps
netatalk
libaudio-flac-decoder-perl
liblinux-aio-perl
ircii-pana
openslp-dfsg
trang
rrootage
postgresql-pljava
cynthiune.app
nyello
prokyon3
swh-plugins
libavg
beast
purelibc
nikwi
firebird1.5
complearn-gui
complearn-mpi
exif
pypy
ocaml-reins
abraca
fusd-kor
grouch.app
tcpreplay
xserver-xorg-input-joystick # fixed upload pending
gcj-4.1 # obsolete package
happs
listlike
gtkrsync
pugs
miro
mozart-gtk  # fails on all architectures, #419692
prc-tools   # proposed-orphaned, #444713


Broken generic source, bugs unreported (TODO: report)
-
pixie   # fails on all architectures
autopartkit # fails on all architectures
gnustep-dl2 # fails on all architectures
twin# includes linux/bitops.h
elfkickers  # uses internal kernel headers
keepalived  # uses (likely internal) kernel headers
libqglviewer# tries to write outside build dir
monotone# tries to run testsuite outside build dir
nessus-plugins  # unreported
gengameng   # unreported
libswirl-java   # unreported
solfege # unreported


C++ bugs, no bugs filed (TODO: test again with latest g++)
--
openmovieeditor
ardour
qtiplot
ktoon
chemeq
gparted
kawari8


No upstream support and hard to port (porting deferred)
---
rtai
openafs
virtualbox-ose
xen-3
firebird2.0
flashrom# attempts to use sys/io.h, should be in P-a-s
lcd4linux   # attempts to use sys/io.h, should be in P-a-s
vbetool # attempts to use sys/io.h, unmaintained?, should be in P-a-s
libx86  # attempts to use sys/io.h, should be in P-a-s
ara # no ocamlopt, should be in P-a-s
spamoracle  # no ocamlopt, should be in P-a-s
elfsh   # x86-isms
vzctl
qemu
openmpi # supports IRIX6, not Linux/MIPS


Maybe missing ports (TODO: check out)
-
usplash
usplash-theme-debian
dynagen
lcdproc
ocsinventory-agent
libflorist
libtexttools
gambas
gambas2
scribus
ddccontrol
dfsbuild
rovclock
whitelister
open-invaders
umview
ogre-contrib
glest   # endianness?
scratchbox2
eciadsl
pdns-recursor
fische
odyssey
etoken-pro-support
systemtap
linux-modules-contrib-2.6
grub2
libjdic-java


Portability bugs, or other TODO:

crystalspace# No IEEE float, #358044
smarteiffel2# eiffeltest not built
flumotion   # configure fails to find gst-python
iceowl  # mozilla mips patch missing
freehdl # reproduced, but build suppresses compiler error output


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Accepted sibyl-installer 1.10 (source mipsel)

2007-09-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:37:54 +0100
Source: sibyl-installer
Binary: sibyl-installer
Architecture: source mipsel
Version: 1.10
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sibyl-installer - Install the SiByl boot loader on your disk (udeb)
Changes: 
 sibyl-installer (1.10) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Otavio Salvador ]
   * Replace 'base-installer' dependency by 'installed-base' virtual
 package. Needs base-installer 1.81.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Bengali (bn.po) by Jamil Ahmed
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Serge Leblanc
   * Italian (it.po) by Stefano Canepa
   * Dutch (nl.po) by Frans Pop
   * Punjabi (Gurmukhi) (pa.po) by A S Alam
   * Romanian (ro.po) by Eddy Petrișor
   * Vietnamese (vi.po) by Clytie Siddall
Files: 
 f49c6939cbedc8ea3c2e1f5d1fbf9635 687 debian-installer standard 
sibyl-installer_1.10.dsc
 62e80e886750322650c0ccfabf4e4cbf 32328 debian-installer standard 
sibyl-installer_1.10.tar.gz
 8dd73c53125e3feb1bd5fbf0da25da72 16434 debian-installer standard 
sibyl-installer_1.10_mipsel.udeb
Package-Type: udeb

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Accepted:
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  to pool/main/s/sibyl-installer/sibyl-installer_1.10.dsc
sibyl-installer_1.10.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/sibyl-installer/sibyl-installer_1.10.tar.gz
sibyl-installer_1.10_mipsel.udeb
  to pool/main/s/sibyl-installer/sibyl-installer_1.10_mipsel.udeb


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Accepted colo-installer 1.10 (source mipsel)

2007-09-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:18:09 +0100
Source: colo-installer
Binary: colo-installer
Architecture: source mipsel
Version: 1.10
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 colo-installer - Install the Cobalt boot loader on your disk (udeb)
Changes: 
 colo-installer (1.10) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Otavio Salvador ]
   * Replace 'base-installer' dependency by 'installed-base' virtual
 package. Needs base-installer 1.81.
Files: 
 9c6625825d4ec22729f1048d254d4f84 655 debian-installer standard 
colo-installer_1.10.dsc
 4814c013b28daad86cbcb6af9d7a37ca 31580 debian-installer standard 
colo-installer_1.10.tar.gz
 70a18f634352815a384f35e9b016bacb 15096 debian-installer standard 
colo-installer_1.10_mipsel.udeb
Package-Type: udeb

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Accepted:
colo-installer_1.10.dsc
  to pool/main/c/colo-installer/colo-installer_1.10.dsc
colo-installer_1.10.tar.gz
  to pool/main/c/colo-installer/colo-installer_1.10.tar.gz
colo-installer_1.10_mipsel.udeb
  to pool/main/c/colo-installer/colo-installer_1.10_mipsel.udeb


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Re: Dependencies on shared libs, news and difference between archs

2007-08-22 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
[snip]
 2/ Second example, libconfig0 has a supplementary symbols
 _PROCEDURE_LINKAGE_TABLE_ on sparc and alpha. I don't know where it comes 
 from.
 Is this a internal symbols that I missed?
 On powerpc it has _SDA_BASE_ and _SDA2_BASE_. Same question as above.
 On amd64 it has lost the _DYNAMIC symbol. Same question as above.

The symbols for PLT and dynamic section are magic for the dynamic loader,
they aren't relevant WRT shared library dependencies. I guess the same
applies to the powerpc SDA symbols.

 Quick googling led me to believe that I can/should exclude all those. If
 someone can confirm, it would be great.
 
 3/ Third example, libgci0/0.9.5.dfsg-2 on mipsel has a 0x62 global symbol:
 009b6870 gD  *ABS*  009b6170  0x62
 It also has a 0x63 symbol but this one is marked local so is already 
 discarded.
 009b4cb0 lD  *ABS*  009b6580  0x63
 I have no idea where they come from and what they're used for. Can someone
 from debian-mips enlighten me?

Looks like a corrupted symbol table.

 4/ Fourth example, libgarlic2006 on alpha has many supplementary symbols 
 ending
 in ___elabs. No idea what the root difference is.
 
 5/ Fifth example, it looks like 64 bits ports tend to have differences in 
 common
 like on libneon2.6 where various functions suffixed by 64 disappear on those
 arches (ne_get_range64, ne_set_request_body_fd64, 
 ne_set_request_body_provider64).

64bit ports tend to handle 64bit offsets in their interface functions, so
they don't need special versions for e.g. LFS.

 If you want to investigate a bit more on differences, you can grab that file:
 http://users.alioth.debian.org/~hertzog/comparison.tar.bz2 (139 Mb)
 the result-compare contain the information about differences on all 
 packages.
 You can then lookup the difference manually by diffing files in 
 result/sid/*.symbols.*
 
 
 About C++ libraries
 ---
 
 Can anyone explain me why there's randomness in symbol mangling?  If I compare
 the symbols file of gnunet-qt for example I get differences like this between
 i386 and alpha:
 @@ -67,10 +67,10 @@
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
  libgnunetqtmodule_about.so.1 gnunet-qt #MINVER#
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7.1-1
 
 But if you check what it refers too, they refer to the same symbol:
 $ c++filt _ZThn8_N11GTextEditorD0Ev
 non-virtual thunk to GTextEditor::~GTextEditor()
 $ c++filt _ZThn16_N11GTextEditorD0Ev
 non-virtual thunk to GTextEditor::~GTextEditor()
 
 And if I convert the symbols files with c++filt then both files are identical.

Different object/vtable layout, see
http://www.codesourcery.com/cxx-abi/abi.html#mangling


Thiemo


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Re: Question about toolchain and objdump's output on ia64/mips/mipsel

2007-08-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 Hello,
 
 while working on http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps
 I'm discovering some arch-specific differences in the objdump -T
 output of libraries.
 
 * On ia64, static functions appear in objdump's output and they are marked
   as local.
   See my previous message to debian-ia64:
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-ia64/2007/08/msg0.html

I presume this applies only to static functions whose address wasn't
taken inside the module. Otherwise this would be a bug for e.g. callbacks
exported via a function pointer.

 * On ia64, mips and mipsel, functions with gcc's visibility attribute
   hidden also appear in objdump's output and they are marked as local.
   Example with libglib2.0:
 000386a8 lDF .text  0020  Base.hidden IA__g_list_free

Hidden symbols are treated as forced local, at least on mips/mipsel,
they aren't supposed to be usable from other components.

 I have two questions:
 
 * are those behaviour expected on those arches or are they bugs in the
   respective toolchains?

For mips/mipsel this is the expected behaviour.

 * can I consider (in general and not only for those architectures) all
   those symbols marked as local as unusable by applications linked to
   those libraries?

Yes, as long as unusable means not referencable from other components.


Thiemo


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Re: Bits from the debian-cd team; more CD/DVDs being built regularly

2006-12-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve McIntyre wrote:
[snip]
 mips
 
 jealously scribbles all over the first 512 bytes

I figure that's a DVH Disk Volume Header as used on SGI machines.

 mipsel
 ==
 bytes 000-008 : 0-padding
   008-011 : magic header
   012-015 : boot mode
   016-019 : load address
   020-023 : exec address
   024-027 : boot file length
   028-031 : boot file location

Looks like an Ultrix boot record for a DECstation.
That's a list of boot file extents and their locations. For an ISO
we can assume contiguous files, so it makes no difference in that case.

 (otherwise blank - may contain other boot files, but we don't use it)

There's only a single boot file. As a sidenote, there are other
mips/mipsel system architectures with different firmware and disk
layout conventions. This makes even building a CD which boots on
all mips systems tricky.


Thiemo


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Accepted libdebian-installer 0.47 (source mips)

2006-11-22 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:59:38 +
Source: libdebian-installer
Binary: libdebian-installer4 libdebian-installer-extra4 
libdebian-installer4-udeb libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb 
libdebian-installer4-dev
Architecture: source mips
Version: 0.47
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libdebian-installer-extra4 - Library of some extra debian-installer functions
 libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb - Library of some extra debian-installer 
functions (udeb)
 libdebian-installer4 - Library of common debian-installer functions
 libdebian-installer4-dev - Library of common debian-installer functions
 libdebian-installer4-udeb - Library of common debian-installer functions (udeb)
Changes: 
 libdebian-installer (0.47) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix FTBFS on mips/mipsel.
Files: 
 5c42bec4e26f17e718960d00e9998ef7 881 libs optional libdebian-installer_0.47.dsc
 f8a77ed449bb49bd4439f1558276f10a 378236 libs optional 
libdebian-installer_0.47.tar.gz
 f224877c5902532a7c1c4f101a267e38 26436 libs optional 
libdebian-installer4_0.47_mips.deb
 5307c99870b08566752cba7b1716a3ac 159092 libdevel optional 
libdebian-installer4-dev_0.47_mips.deb
 e04262515963dbb77115fbf7bf470b52 19740 debian-installer optional 
libdebian-installer4-udeb_0.47_mips.udeb
 3c4a38b8bf0a4640c051397dd3c5f92e 10076 libs optional 
libdebian-installer-extra4_0.47_mips.deb
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Accepted:
libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb_0.47_mips.udeb
  to 
pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb_0.47_mips.udeb
libdebian-installer-extra4_0.47_mips.deb
  to pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer-extra4_0.47_mips.deb
libdebian-installer4-dev_0.47_mips.deb
  to pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer4-dev_0.47_mips.deb
libdebian-installer4-udeb_0.47_mips.udeb
  to pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer4-udeb_0.47_mips.udeb
libdebian-installer4_0.47_mips.deb
  to pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer4_0.47_mips.deb
libdebian-installer_0.47.dsc
  to pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer_0.47.dsc
libdebian-installer_0.47.tar.gz
  to pool/main/libd/libdebian-installer/libdebian-installer_0.47.tar.gz


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Re: Bug#395262: Arch: all package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-11-02 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Sven Luther wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
  
   Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can also note why bazaar wont build as root: its test suite
includes a test for the ability to handle read only directories
correctly. As root, anything is writable, so this test fails.
  
  [Goswin von Brederlow]
   That test should add a test for root and skip it. If that is the only
   reason not to build as root then that should be no excuse (post
   etch).
  
  Your unspoken premise is that there is a _reason_ to support building
  packages as root.  Why?  I think it is better just to tell people not
  to do that.
 
 Do some arch not have trouble with fakeroot, and need sudo to work ? This
 means you need to be able to build packages as real root, no ? Or was this
 fixed lately ? I think mips/mipsel, and some other arch where concerned.

For mips/mipsel this was fixed before sarge. The autobuilder continue to
use sudo, and catch some bugs that way.


Thiemo


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Re: Dropping an architecture from a package

2006-10-29 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ian Wienand wrote:
 Hi,
 
 One of my packages (numactl) has dropped support for two
 architectures.  I would very much like the new package to make it into
 testing, but it of course fails the up-to-date on previous
 architectures rule.  I thought if I had removed the architectures the
 scripts would notice, but they don't seem to have [1].
 
 http://www.debian.org/devel/testing says what I should do if I have
 FTBFS, but not so much what to do if I deliberately dropped it.  Do
 you bug release managers directly, or file a bug somewhere, or send
 something to a mailing list?

File a removal request against package ftp.debian.org.


Thiemo


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Re: gcc-4.1 [gfdl] documentation packages for non-free

2006-09-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I'm one of those people beaten by recent removal of gcc documentation. Both 
 myself and people to whom I recommend Debian, *need* gcc documentation to 
 be available in the system.
 
 So I had four options:
 - start a new flamewar on the issue,
 - stop to use Debian (and to recomment it),
 - install documentation in non-package form,
 - create appropriate documentation debs (for non-free).
 
 Since I'm a DD, the only real option for me was the last one.
 
 I've created gcc-4.1-doc-non-dfsg package, intended for non-free. This 
 package builds several binary packages (cpp-4.1-doc, gcc-4.1-doc, 
 gfortran-4.1-doc, tree;ang-4.1-doc), that contain all files - man pages, 
 info and html docs - that have been in gcc-4.1 4.1.1-10 package [last 
 version before documentation removal], but are not in the current 
 4.1.1ds1-13 package.
 
 I'm going to upload this to non-free.
 But before that, I'd like interested people to look into the package, and 
 give any comments they feel appropriate.
 Currently, I've put the package to 
 http://zigzag.lvk.cs.msu.su/~nikita/debian/gcc-doc/

Looks good at a first glance. Thank you for your work.


Thiemo


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Accepted arcboot-installer 1.4 (source mips)

2006-07-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:35:01 +0100
Source: arcboot-installer
Binary: arcboot-installer
Architecture: source mips
Version: 1.4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 arcboot-installer - Install Arcboot on a hard disk (udeb)
Changes: 
 arcboot-installer (1.4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Thiemo Seufer
 - New upload for translation updates.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Bosnian (bs.po) by Safir Secerovic
   * Catalan; Valencian (ca.po) by Jordi Mallach
   * Danish (da.po) by Claus Hindsgaul
   * German (de.po) by Jens Seidel
   * Dzongkha (dz.po)
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Serge Leblanc
   * Estonian (et.po) by Siim Põder
   * Basque (eu.po) by Piarres Beobide
   * Finnish (fi.po) by Tapio Lehtonen
   * Irish (ga.po) by Kevin Patrick Scannell
   * Gujarati (gu.po) by Kartik Mistry
   * Hungarian (hu.po) by SZERVÑC Attila
   * Italian (it.po) by Giuseppe Sacco
   * Georgian (ka.po) by Aiet Kolkhi
   * Khmer (km.po) by Leang Chumsoben
   * Kurdish (ku.po) by Erdal Ronahi
   * Nepali (ne.po) by Shiva Pokharel
   * Norwegian Nynorsk; Nynorsk, Norwegian (nn.po) by HÃ¥vard Korsvoll
   * Northern Sami (se.po) by Børre Gaup
   * Slovak (sk.po) by Peter Mann
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Jure Čuhalev
   * Swedish (sv.po) by Daniel Nylander
   * Thai (th.po) by Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
   * Turkish (tr.po) by Recai Oktaş
   * Vietnamese (vi.po) by Clytie Siddall
Files: 
 491f6d14e2f0e118c1fbff8aa550f9ca 653 debian-installer standard 
arcboot-installer_1.4.dsc
 45cd1946ebc7c2a95fad9d51513f2730 59881 debian-installer standard 
arcboot-installer_1.4.tar.gz
 c4e5eec92136994eb7a81a0fbdf01797 38482 debian-installer standard 
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Package-Type: udeb

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Accepted:
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arcboot-installer_1.4.tar.gz
  to pool/main/a/arcboot-installer/arcboot-installer_1.4.tar.gz
arcboot-installer_1.4_mips.udeb
  to pool/main/a/arcboot-installer/arcboot-installer_1.4_mips.udeb


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Accepted delo-installer 1.3 (source mipsel)

2006-07-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:21:34 +0100
Source: delo-installer
Binary: delo-installer
Architecture: source mipsel
Version: 1.3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 delo-installer - Install Delo on a hard disk (udeb)
Changes: 
 delo-installer (1.3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Arabic (ar.po) by Ossama M. Khayat
   * Bosnian (bs.po) by Safir Secerovic
   * Catalan (ca.po) by Jordi Mallach
   * Danish (da.po) by Claus Hindsgaul
   * German (de.po) by Jens Seidel
   * Dzongkha (dz.po)
   * Esperanto (eo.po) by Serge Leblanc
   * Estonian (et.po) by Siim Põder
   * Basque (eu.po) by Piarres Beobide
   * Finnish (fi.po) by Tapio Lehtonen
   * Irish (ga.po) by Kevin Patrick Scannell
   * Gujarati (gu.po) by Kartik Mistry
   * Hungarian (hu.po) by SZERVÑC Attila
   * Italian (it.po) by Giuseppe Sacco
   * Georgian (ka.po) by Aiet Kolkhi
   * Khmer (km.po) by Leang Chumsoben
   * Kurdish (ku.po) by Erdal Ronahi
   * Nepali (ne.po) by Shiva Pokharel
   * Norwegian Nynorsk (nn.po) by HÃ¥vard Korsvoll
   * Northern Sami (se.po) by Børre Gaup
   * Slovak (sk.po) by Peter Mann
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Jure Čuhalev
   * Swedish (sv.po) by Daniel Nylander
   * Thai (th.po) by Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
   * Vietnamese (vi.po) by Clytie Siddall
Files: 
 7310f2aed760abf6a225071d29af42c7 603 debian-installer standard 
delo-installer_1.3.dsc
 cda2c89ae25b7df9abb289912f969d91 37825 debian-installer standard 
delo-installer_1.3.tar.gz
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Accepted gcc-2.95 2.95.4.ds15-25 (source all mips)

2006-06-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:14:15 +0100
Source: gcc-2.95
Binary: cpp-2.95-doc libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 g77-2.95-doc cpp-2.95 gobjc-2.95 
libstdc++2.10-dbg gcc-2.95 gpc-2.95-doc chill-2.95 gpc-2.95 libg++2.8.1.3-dev 
libg++2.8.1.3-dbg libstdc++2.10-dev libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 g++-2.95 g77-2.95 
gcc-2.95-doc
Architecture: source mips all
Version: 2.95.4.ds15-25
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 chill-2.95 - The GNU CHILL compiler
 cpp-2.95   - The GNU C preprocessor
 cpp-2.95-doc - Documentation for the GNU C preprocessor (cpp)
 g++-2.95   - The GNU C++ compiler
 g77-2.95   - The GNU Fortran 77 compiler
 g77-2.95-doc - Documentation for the GNU Fortran compiler (g77)
 gcc-2.95   - The GNU C compiler
 gcc-2.95-doc - Documentation for the GNU compilers (gcc, gobjc, g++)
 gobjc-2.95 - The GNU Objective-C compiler
 gpc-2.95   - The GNU Pascal compiler
 gpc-2.95-doc - Documentation for the GNU Pascal compiler (gpc)
 libg++2.8.1.3-dbg - The GNU C++ extension library - debugging files
 libg++2.8.1.3-dev - The GNU C++ extension library - development files
 libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 - The GNU C++ extension library - runtime version
 libstdc++2.10-dbg - The GNU stdc++ library (debugging files)
 libstdc++2.10-dev - The GNU stdc++ library (development files)
 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 - The GNU stdc++ library
Closes: 336061 336064 350688
Changes: 
 gcc-2.95 (2.95.4.ds15-25) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 * Add big-endian arm (armeb) support (Lennert Buytenhek).
   Closes: #336064.
 * Generate the control file explicitely (debian/rules control-file)
   still using cpp-2.95, remove the build dependency on cpp-2.95.
   Closes: #336061.
 * Fix build failure with new make. Closes: #350688.
 .
   * Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 * Provide the canonical chill compiler.
 * Update standards version.
 * Fix some lintian warnings by adjusting the build dependencies
 * Fix changelog formatting.
Files: 
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gcc-2.95_2.95.4.ds15-25.dsc
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gcc-2.95_2.95.4.ds15-25.diff.gz
 5ac034c4738bc82d8652d7dc8e2179d5 69856 doc optional 
cpp-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
 0de55302caa68d748bc6ad46aba72cb1 315374 doc optional 
g77-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
 fdbb868146347fdd2cc68d668df01d79 447474 doc optional 
gcc-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
 57288cfdd7f0377ed60d997298c7c958 531000 doc optional 
gpc-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
 a21c6ecb7e1005dbd749601ec20e1d62 1145380 devel optional 
gcc-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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cpp-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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g++-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
 c9d8a034dd2ed9ec4c47e03dfa197c8e 1063740 devel optional 
gobjc-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
 91ecf4bf76d7a1b9592ecce4f6b3e9e6 1355402 devel optional 
g77-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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chill-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
 6bc8e649e0cf82c9e6f7aed8ae9e787e 371456 libs optional 
libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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libstdc++2.10-dev_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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libstdc++2.10-dbg_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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libg++2.8.1.3-dbg_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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cpp-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/cpp-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
cpp-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/cpp-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
g++-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/g++-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
g77-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/g77-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
g77-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
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gcc-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/gcc-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb
gcc-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/gcc-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
gcc-2.95_2.95.4.ds15-25.diff.gz
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gcc-2.95_2.95.4.ds15-25.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/gcc-2.95_2.95.4.ds15-25.dsc
gobjc-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
  to pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/gobjc-2.95_2.95.4-25_mips.deb
gpc-2.95-doc_2.95.4-25_all.deb

Re: glibc built with gcc-4.1 (update)

2006-05-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Falk Hueffner wrote:
 Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Falk Hueffner a écrit :
  Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 On arm, ia64 and alpha the glibc fails to build with gcc-4.1.
  On Alpha the problem is:
  {standard input}: Assembler messages:
  {standard input}:341: Error: macro requires $at register while noat in 
  effect
  {standard input}:374: Error: macro requires $at register while noat in 
  effect
  {standard input}:438: Error: macro requires $at register while noat in 
  effect
  {standard input}:471: Error: macro requires $at register while noat in 
  effect
  make[3]: *** [/tmp/buildd/glibc-2.3.6/build-tree/alpha-libc/misc/ioperm.o] 
  Error 1
  Hrm. gcc puts .arch ev4 into the .s, and this overrides -mev6 for as.
  I cannot really think of anything better than
 
  Ok, thanks a lot, I will add it in the SVN soon.
 
  Do you think it is a fix or a workaround? Or rather do you think this
  behaviour is correct?
 
 Well, the right thing to do would be to turn arch to ev6, and then
 restore it to whatever it was previously; with this patch, it remains
 turned on for the rest of the file and could potentially hide errors.
 However, I don't think that's possible with gas. So given this
 deficiency, I don't think there's a better way.

FYI, the MIPS gas has

.set push
.set mips32
# ...
.set pop

which is very useful to handle such situations. Alpha gas at least
doesn't document anything similiar, but it might be useful to
implement such a feature for it.


Thiemo



Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
 On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:07:22PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 
  The obvious example is the UK, which insists on checking your
  passport if you come from the mainland.

Passport or ID Card, that is.

 The www.britishembassy.gov.uk website suggests EEA nationals need only
 an ID card.

A Passport is often recommended regardless. It doesn't get stamped.


Thiemo


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On 25 May 2006, Andreas Tille spake thusly:
 
  On Thu, 25 May 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 
  It has come to my attention that Martin Kraff used an
  unofficial, and easily forge-able, identity device at a large key
 
  Is there any reason to revoke my signature I have put on
  Martin's key after he showed me his passport?
 
 In my opinion, yes, if you consider subverting the KSP like
  that unacceptable behaviour.

Keysigning isn't for judging behaviour but for confirming identity.


Thiemo


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Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-21 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
[snip]
 The installer can use whatever seems most appropriate (does it even log?):

The installer does log and puts the logs at /var/log/debian-installer/ on
the successfully installed system. If the installation fails, the logs (in
the installer ramdisk) are a valuable source of information.


Thiemo


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Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Carlos Correia wrote:
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 Florian Weimer escreveu:
 | * Jeroen van Wolffelaar:
 |
 |
 |Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free
 |section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new
 |license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2][3].
 |
 |
 | This license requires that we remove all other Java implementations
 | from the mirror network:
 |
 
 No, it doesn't!
 
 ~From DLJ FAQ (http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ-v1.1.txt):
 
 8.  Does this license prevent me shipping any alternative technologies
 ~in my OS distribution?
 
 ~  The DLJ does not restrict you from shipping any other technologies
 ~  you choose to include in your distribution. However, you can't use
 ~  pieces of the JDK configured in conjunction with any alternative
 ~  technologies to create hybrid implementations, or mingle the code
 ~  from the JDK with non-JDK components of any kind so that they run
 ~  together. It is of course perfectly OK to ship programs or libraries
 ~  that use the JDK. Because this question has caused confusion in the
 ~  past, we want to make this absolutely clear: except for these
 ~  limitations on combining technologies, there is nothing in the DLJ
 ~  intended to prevent you from shipping alternative technologies with
 ~  your OS distribution.

Why isn't e.g. an alternative pointing from some other Java environment
to the JDK javac a hybrid implementation?

It is the point of a distribution like Debian to integrate the various
pieces.


Thiemo


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Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Francesco Poli wrote:
 On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote:
 
  [For -legal people, the license is attached.]
 
 Thanks.
 
 [...]
  Also, section 4 poses a major issue.  If, for any reason, the Linux
  kernel doesn't do something that Java requires, then we are obligated
  to either fix it or inform everyone who has acquired Java from us.
 
 Indeed, it seems we are in chains: whenever Sun decides that we should
 do it, we are bound to modifying the Debian System to satisfy their
 requirements and/or notifying the world about the issue.

Or stop distributing, which terminates the license immediately.


Thiemo


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Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote:
   Being able to install multiple versions is some use to multiarch, but
   could also be used for other things, such if two packages provide the
   same binary (git for example).
   Or to install multiple 'version 'numbers' of the same package.
  
  The big problem then is when to install multiple versions of a binary?
  How should the depends decide when that is needed or wanted and when
  not? Esspecialy when different versions are available per
  architecture.
  
 
 One way of doing this would be to make a binary a special directory
 which contains the actual binary files for the architectures the
 binaries exist. AIX 1.x did this and allowed transparent execution of
 binaries in a heterogenous cluster. So if you would start a binary on
 IA32 AIX machine which only existed in a mainframe AIX version, the
 system would automatically start the binary on one of the mainframe AIX
 nodes in the cluster. If an IA32 AIX binary was available, it would
 locally start this binary. The 'binary directory' had the name, the
 binary would normally have. The actual binary files get the architecture
 name they implement as the filename. Eg: there would be an /bin/ls
 directory containing 2 files : i386, ibm370.
 
  How would programs or user specifiy what binary to call? How would
 
 You could explicitly start /bin/ls/i386 I think (which would fail if
 you did it on the wrong machine).

The obvious problem here: The scheme is incompatible with non-multiarched
software. It would at least require a package manager which specialcases
/bin directory, a one-time conversion which moves the binaries, and
some trickery for alternatives. Plus some more things which don't come
to mind immediately, I guess.


Thiemo


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Accepted sibyl-installer 1.5 (source mips)

2006-05-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:39:20 +0100
Source: sibyl-installer
Binary: sibyl-installer
Architecture: source mips
Version: 1.5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sibyl-installer - Install the SiByl boot loader on your disk (udeb)
Changes: 
 sibyl-installer (1.5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Old-style options for head/tail are no longer supported by new busybox.
Files: 
 3ae5e9a644828cdd2db181ca942f7ae6 610 debian-installer standard 
sibyl-installer_1.5.dsc
 b9e3612091c52252011cc35153fcc153 30448 debian-installer standard 
sibyl-installer_1.5.tar.gz
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sibyl-installer_1.5_mips.udeb
Package-Type: udeb

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  to pool/main/s/sibyl-installer/sibyl-installer_1.5.tar.gz
sibyl-installer_1.5_mips.udeb
  to pool/main/s/sibyl-installer/sibyl-installer_1.5_mips.udeb


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Accepted colo-installer 1.5 (source mipsel)

2006-05-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:05:10 +0100
Source: colo-installer
Binary: colo-installer
Architecture: source mipsel
Version: 1.5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 colo-installer - Install the Cobalt boot loader on your disk (udeb)
Changes: 
 colo-installer (1.5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Old-style options for head/tail are no longer supported by new busybox.
Files: 
 cf0ec2acee742e4f76037b7f07f771f5 577 debian-installer standard 
colo-installer_1.5.dsc
 46c53cff7433b8300825b5c36274dead 29634 debian-installer standard 
colo-installer_1.5.tar.gz
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  to pool/main/c/colo-installer/colo-installer_1.5.tar.gz
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  to pool/main/c/colo-installer/colo-installer_1.5_mipsel.udeb


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Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-11 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Frank Küster wrote:
 Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:46:22PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
  also sprach Kari Pahula [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.11.1535 +0200]:
   * License : GPL v2 or later
  
  That will make it pretty useless for non-GPL applications. 
 
  Non-GPL compatible applications, you mean?
 
 Which non-GPL license can I choose for a software that uses this
 library? 

BSD should be fine, for example.

  Seconds, since when do we consider the GPL to be viral?
 
 Don't know about you, but the FSF does - it has created the LGPL because
 of this.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html


Thiemo



Re: Bug#366834: ITP: cxxtools -- library of unrelated, but useful C++ classes

2006-05-11 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Frank Küster wrote:
 Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:46:22PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
  also sprach Kari Pahula [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.11.1535 +0200]:
   * License : GPL v2 or later
  
  That will make it pretty useless for non-GPL applications. 
 
  Non-GPL compatible applications, you mean?
 
  Which non-GPL license can I choose for a software that uses this
  library? 
 
  Any license that is compatible with the GPL, such as the revised BSD
  license.
 
 But the software is a derivative work of the GPL.  Doesn't it need to be
 licensed under the GPL, too?

It likely is an aggregation of works. Distributing the whole will
need to adhere to all licenses of all parts involved, and the license
for the aggregate will need to be compatible to them as well (for
example public domain).


IANAL,
Thiemo



Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-11 Thread Thiemo Seufer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have created a new page in the wiki to track info and status
 
   http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch
 
 I looked at the upstream standards proposal:
 http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/multiarch/
 
 It's good.
 I am particularly pleased by the specification:
 
 The terms arch and os represent the Architecture and Operating System 
 as defined and provided by config.guess.
 
 It is crucial that this naming be entirely standardized.  This *should*
 be sufficient.  Is it sufficient?  Cases where it would not be sufficient
 would be the following:
 
 (1) Cases where config.guess reports the same name for functionally different
 systems, such as the two MIPS ABIs.  This should be considered a bug in
 config.guess, plain and simple.

To expand a bit on this, I don't think config.guess is sufficient to
handle those cases. E.g. for a MIPS system with 64bit kernel,
config.guess will return

mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu

even when there's only a (little endian) O32 userland installed, but
for a 32bit kernel it will be

mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu

unless the call is prefixed with linux32, which changes the uname,
and thus the config.guess output.

The endianness is guessed from the defaults of the system compiler
(the first cc in $PATH), which is
a) not necessarily available, and
b) supposed to be exchangable in a full multiarch environment.

What's worse, mips64 is a rather entrenched term with inconsistent
meanings which cover both the N32 and N64 ABI. A fix to config.guess
would AFAICS require to specify a multiarch mode, which changes the
output to, say, mipsn32el-unknown-linux-gnu for N32 and to
mipsn64-unknown-linux-gnu for N64 (that still doesn't answer the
question which ABI would be the native one). But in that case the
config.guess can't be the canonical source of information any more.

This is not only MIPS-specific, a similiar problem arises e.g. for a
ILP32 ABI for x86_64.

I think we need a canonical ABI-OS (or ABI-KERNEL-OS ?) table which
provides mappings for multiarch-sensitive programs.


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Re: System users and valid shells...

2006-05-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Marc Haber wrote:
 On Fri, 05 May 2006 11:12:35 +0300, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Richard A Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Wed, 3 May 2006, Colin Watson wrote:
  The rest of the system accounts are happily running with /bin/false
 
 There is now /bin/nologin which is more secure
 
 You can surely explain why /bin/nologin is more secure than
 /bin/false. I'm eager to learn.

I am curious why any of both would be more secure than /dev/null, a
place which makes it hard to smuggle an infected binary into.


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Re: System users and valid shells...

2006-05-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Gabor Gombas wrote:
 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:00:42AM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
   You can surely explain why /bin/nologin is more secure than
   /bin/false. I'm eager to learn.
  
  I am curious why any of both would be more secure than /dev/null, a
  place which makes it hard to smuggle an infected binary into.
 
 If the attacker has enough privileges to replace /bin/nologin or
 /bin/false, then I fail to see what extra protection would /dev/null
 give.

s/smuggle an infected/install a broken/ , doesn't change the point
I wanted to make.

 Also, applications expecting an executable binary as the login shell may
 break when they find a device node there. And if the breakage is
 exploitable, then using /dev/null may turn out to be less secure than
 using /bin/bash.

Such a binary is completely broken, and it would fail in a similiar way
for any sort of file it has no execute permission for, not only for
$SHELL.


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Re: System users and valid shells...

2006-05-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Gabor Gombas wrote:
 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 11:53:15AM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
  Such a binary is completely broken, and it would fail in a similiar way
  for any sort of file it has no execute permission for, not only for
  $SHELL.
 
 Sure, but that does not change the fact that it is a failure path that
 is usually not well-tested. Triggering it deliberately without a general
 audit of login shell handling therefore may discover new bugs with
 security implications.

So you expect systems to become exploitable by mounting /usr as noexec
when they provide some /usr/bin/foo shell?

Do you also expect this is more likely than an exploitable bug in
/usr/sbin/nologin or /bin/false with their dependencies on ldso and
glibc?


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Re: Compiling packages for the standard distribution with -Os instead of -O2

2006-05-05 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
 On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:02:57AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 
  For Etch and Sid, it is probably a good idea to use -Os instead of -O2 at
  least on the bigger arches (ia32, ia64, amd64, etc), as we can probably
  trust gcc not to screw up.
 
 If gcc generally generates faster code with -Os than -O2, then isn't
 that a gcc bug,

It doesn't do so generally.

in that the optimizations enabled by -O2 are incorrectly picked?

The compiler can only make some broad assumptions about the CPU's
memory/cache system, and none about the size of the working set.

If the working set with -O2 spills out of the cache but doesn't with
-Os then you get a performance improvement from -Os, for the next CPU
with bigger caches it can swing back.

 [Also, are there that man AMD64 machines with limited memory? Or IA64?]

Swap is now mostly irrelevant for performance discussions, if you hit
swap you won't have performance anyway. :-)


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Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Linas Žvirblis wrote:
 Joey Hess wrote:
 
  By this lie of reasoning the only task that Debian can afford to ship is
  either KDE or Gnome.
 
 No, not at all. That is not what I was trying to say. KDE and GNOME were
 examples of something that did not happen overnight. They proved worthy
 of becoming a task. Would you accept KDE as a task, if it was started
 yesterday?

A XFCE-based lightweight desktop also isn't something which happened
overnight. It's the usual thing I install as desktop environment, and
I appreciate that it might become easier and better integrated now.


Thiemo



Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ognyan Kulev wrote:
 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  HAM is not an acronym, so Ham Radio would be more appropriate.
  
  Even better (IMHO) is the full term Amateur Radio, but some may
  disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also.
 
 Is there a problem with using Amateur (Ham) Radio?

It is unnecessarily complicated.


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Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On 14 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer told this:
 
  Ognyan Kulev wrote:
  Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  HAM is not an acronym, so Ham Radio would be more appropriate.
 
  Even better (IMHO) is the full term Amateur Radio, but some may
  disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also.
 
  Is there a problem with using Amateur (Ham) Radio?
 
  It is unnecessarily complicated.
 
 Do we really want to cater to people who are thrown off by
  (Ham)?

Yes. Debian shouldn't be the Linux Distribution of Cryptic Acronyms.

  Would it not be a public service to steer such simple souls
  to something which may be better fit for them, like, say, Windows?

I doubt Windows is a better fit.

 Since when has dumbing down debian been a goal?

What exactly was dumbed down here? Is there a non-Ham Amateur Radio
we would have to distinguish from?


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Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira wrote:
 2006/4/13, Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Le Jeu 13 Avril 2006 15:20, Linas Žvirblis a écrit :
I think this would be better than a meta package because it would
be available in the regular install, and it would avoid some of the
issues with meta packages.
  
   Meta package or not, I do not consider Light Desktop a good name
   because it is too general.
 
   A name like XFCE desktop would be way more descriptive.
  because *you* know what XFCE is and looks like
 
 In the majority of the times the user doesn't knows what is XFCE.
 IMHO, xfce is seemed Gnome and Kde.
 The idea is to have good applications for a light desktop (no depend
 of Gnome,XFCE or outher WM) and not my favorites :)

FWIW, Lightweight Desktop or Lean Desktop sounds better to me.


Thiemo



Re: project machine architecture aliases

2006-03-26 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 03:09:11PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have another wishful thinking idea for build machines to float.
 
 Suppose I get a bug report saying my package has failed to build on
 architecture glooble.  I don't personally have a globle machine.  To
 debug the problem, I need to fire up www.debian.org/devel, find the
 link to the list of project machines, scan the list for the name of a
 glooble machine (which is likely to be the name of a completely
 unrelated composer of music).  Finally, I can log in.
 
 Wouldn't it be nice if I could just do: ssh glooble.dev.debian.org
 and have that be an alias to some machine of architecture glooble?

You can setup something similiar with a local ssh config (and maintain
and publish that config snippet).

 I'm assuming that there's a way to do fancy DNS load balancing amongst
 the machines of type glooble that are currently available.

Well, probably you want to re-login to the same machine...


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Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote:
[snip]
 There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386?

 
 
 Actually, I disagree.  To me it makes perfect sense the way it
 currently is, namely:
  kernel-arch-libc
 
 kernel and libc can be empty when they're the default (Linux and
 glibc respectively).
 
 The uclibc port uses Linux so I think i386-uclibc is fine.  There
 could be kfreebsd-i386-uclibc in the future, I suppose, or something
 like that.
  
 
 Makes sense. I would prefer however to stick with gcc's convention
 of having arch(-vendor)-kernel-libc, however, kernel-arch(-vendor)-libc 
 is also
 suitable.

Note that for Debian the arch part implies also the ABI, so we won't
have a 1:1 mapping to GNU-style arch-vendor-os-libc+abi anyway.


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Re: sysklogd -17.1 NMU build broken in mips/mipsel

2006-02-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:47:31PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:22:27AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
  On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Chris Stromsoe wrote:
   for the entire lifetime of the current stable release.  Will -17.1 be 
   making its way into stable any time soon?
 
  I seriously doubt so. Changing the stable sysklogd requires an upload to
  stable (which did not happen), and that the stable release manager approves
  it.
 
  Also, mips and mipsel have failed to build sysklogd -17.1, probably due to
  toolchain borkage:
 
  In file included from /usr/include/asm/atomic.h:26,
   from module.h:31,
   from ksym_mod.c:97:
  /usr/include/asm/cpu-features.h:15:35: error: cpu-feature-overrides.h: No
  such file or directory
 
  Maybe that crap is fixed already in mips/mipsel, and a rebuild
  request/binNMU request for sysklogd should be done to address that?
 
 $ dpkg -c l/linux-kernel-headers/linux-kernel-headers_2.6.13+0rc3-2_mips.deb 
 |grep cpu-feature
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  4858 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/cpu-features.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root   414 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-generic/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root   836 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-ip22/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1039 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-ip27/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1215 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-ip32/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1200 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-ja/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1909 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-mips/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1321 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-ocelot3/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1284 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-rm200/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1042 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-sibyte/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  1218 2005-07-12 21:46:46 
 ./usr/include/asm/mach-yosemite/cpu-feature-overrides.h
 $
 
 It looks to me like this is still broken on mips.  A bug on l-k-h is
 probably in order.

It is probably (also?) a sysklogd bug, userland code isn't supposed to
use the kernel's atomic operations.


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-12-10 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Heiko Müller wrote:
 Dear Thiemo,
 we very much appreciate your work on the gcc-2.95 debian package.
 For us - and probably also for other users in the scientific 
 community - the old compiler version is still of great value.
 
 We use gcc-2.95 to compile C/C++ code with very large mathematical 
 expressions generated by computer algebra software. This involves 
 very long (several thousand lines of code) functions to evaluate 
 multi-variable polynomial expression resulting from perturbation 
 theoretical solutions of physical problems. 
 
 We found that gcc-2.95 -Os produces object code of acceptable quality 
 within reasonable compilation times. gcc =3 is less efficient w.r.t.
 compilation time and memory consumption and in many cases even fails 
 to compile our codes due to the very long expressions. The C/C++ codes
 generated from the computer algebra software are perhaps unusual but 
 not broken.

Well, gcc 3.x was somewhat disappointing WRT, but I would expect 4.0
to do better. If 4.x fails for your (valid and standard-conforming)
code, please consider to provide a testcase to the upstream developers.
I'm sure they are interested in it, and long-term it will help you as
well to have a more modern compiler which can handle such cases.

 Since what we are doing is not so unusual in theoretical physics we are
 probably not alone with these kind problems. Please consider that even 
 if no other debian packages would depend on gcc-2.95 many users may 
 very much require it.  

Indeed, I got also one private reply which suggested gcc-2.95 is still
an interesting choice for some numerics code.


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Re: buildd administration

2005-12-10 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
[snip]
 A similar issue I noted in the past is the big number of build failures
 that don't get tagged 'Failed'. I tried working on classifying them, but
 got bored so increadibly fast that I gave up, and decided for myself
 this should be something the porters should rather look into. And thus I
 mailed in June about that[2]. I don't believe anyone picked up that, but
 I might be wrong, of course, my mail was hidden in a big thread about
 various stuff, just like this very mail is...

FWIW, I did for mips/mipsel and found your page to be very helpful.


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Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve Langasek wrote:
[snip]
   So those should get added to P-a-s instead.
  Well, but that'd be something for the buildd-admin to collect.
  (Or maintainers of the packages, but that doesn't seem to fashionable
  nowadays...)
 
 Um... no.  This is *porter* work; one does not have to be a buildd admin to
 analyze a build failure to see whether the package belongs in P-a-s, and
 there's no reason that the buildd admins alone should bear the
 responsibility for figuring out whether a permanent build failure should be
 fixed or ignored.  (Maintainers probably need to be involved in this
 process, but usually maintainers don't have the requisite knowledge about
 all our ports to make informed decisions on their own.)

FWIW, I started to send mips patches for P-a-s, following the procedure
outlined at the top of this file. There was neither a response nor any
other discernable action.

 Saying that's the buildd admin's job about tasks that don't *need* to be
 done by the buildd admin is a pretty effective way of encouraging the
 problems that the Vancouver proposal sought to address, where two or three
 people end up carrying all the ports, and all their time is eaten up by
 maintaining the buildds and giving back failed packages with no time for
 following through on the permanent failures (which, even though they
 sometimes represent a minority of Maybe-Failed packages usually account for
 a majority of the actual work needing done).

A while later, and rather by accident, Ryan Murray told me on IRC
(paraphrased) Of course they were ignored, you aren't a buildd admin.
Send them to me. So I did. Ryan acknowledged to have received them with
(again paraphrased) Well, it's not so urgent. This was about 6 weeks ago.

  weechat: don't know, error on dh-strip on 5 archs, no bug filed
 
  That's 2 out of 7 which need actual debugging, both not arm-specific.
 
   And only 1/7 where some action of the buildd maintainer is needed
   at this time to get something build.
  The dep-wait is well inside the some action of the buildd maintainer is
  needed. The needed P-a-s entries could be handeled centrally if the
  problem description is pile of maybe-failed packages.
 
 Wonderful.  Nice to see that you think P-a-s entries are somebody else's
 problem that should be handled centrally.

It appears to be the idea of the people with write access to P-a-s.


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Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Thomas Viehmann wrote:
 Hi Steve,
 
 Steve Langasek wrote:
  Ok.  Here's some feedback on some that I either disagree with, or don't see
  enough rationale for.  (This is why, ideally, the process should involve the
  porters and the maintainers...)
 Thanks. Doesn't hurt do get educated...
 
 +dfsbuild: i386 alpha powerpc amd64   # [ANAIS] 
 debian from scratch installer
  Seems like it should be portable without too much trouble to other
  architectures, if there was porter interest?
 Yes, OTOH it clearly needs to be adapted to whatever it's ported to, and
 there haven't been any arch additions for well over a year, so it seems
 interest is limited.
 
 For ree:
 How portable is scaning /dev/mem between position 0xc and 0xf in
 512 byte blocks for some magic number as a concept?

Not so much. On mips/mipsel it will read some part of the running
Linux kernel that way.


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Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve Langasek wrote:
[snip]
  -grub2: !hppa !ia64 m68k  # 
  bootloader
  +grub2: !hppa !ia64 !m68k !alpha !mips !mipsel !s390 !sparc   # 
  bootloader for i386/powerpc [?]

Is a P-a-s entry some sort of a final verdict? I don't think it makes
sense to attempt builds of a package for some years when it is known
to fail. (Years might not be true for grub2, an example which comes to
mind is gwydion-dylan.)

[snip]
  +ree: i386 amd64 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 # 
  reads ROM from /dev/mem, i386/amd64/ia64-specific
 
 The description says this package can also extract font data from video
 card ROMs.  Are we certain this is specific to i386/amd64/ia64?

At least for mips/mipsel reading /dev/mem with a PC-like hardcoded
offset won't yield anything useful.

  +rootskel-gtk: alpha amd64 i386 powerpc sparc # 
  [ANAIS] udeb for graphical debian-installer
 
 Just because it's only built for these archs now doesn't mean this has to be
 true long-term.

Agreed.


Thiemo


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Re: StrongARM tactics

2005-12-05 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Thomas Viehmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Vincent Sanders wrote:
  [1] http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?a=arm
 
 taking a random (end of alphabet) sample from maybe-failed:
 
 twinkle: requeue (probably libccrtp was stuck in NEW)
 wvstreams: Dep-Wait (libxplc0.3.13-dev) - dep in new queue, see #340696
 xchm: retry (needed libchm-dev)
 
 xmms-openspc: arch specific (says maintainer in control)
 zinc-compiler: arch specific dependency (ghc6)
 
 visualboyadvance: buggy, could requeue to get #334727
 weechat: don't know, error on dh-strip on 5 archs, no bug filed
 
 That's 2 out of 7 which need actual debugging, both not arm-specific.
 
 If you're deperate for people looking at build-failures, that's OK, but
 only few of them seem really arm-specific.

The number of Maybe-Failed packages doesn't tell much. A while ago I
went through it for mips and found that the vast majority consists of

- Packages which should be in P-a-s
- Packages which should be in state Dep-Wait
- Packages which are broken in the same obvious way for several
  architectures


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Accepted partitioner 0.32 (source mips)

2005-11-30 Thread Thiemo Seufer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:04:22 +
Source: partitioner
Binary: partitioner
Architecture: source mips
Version: 0.32
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 partitioner - Partition a hard drive (udeb)
Changes: 
 partitioner (0.32) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Colin Watson
 - Build the architecture name into the binary rather than making a
   messy call to /usr/bin/udpkg --print-architecture (with hardcoded
   path!).
 - Unhardcode path to update-dev to allow a smoother transition to a
   generic /bin/update-dev that handles udev too.
   * Thiemo Seufer
 - Fix find use in debian/rules
Files: 
 1722677aec42989a939ff8f23a09748e 824 debian-installer standard 
partitioner_0.32.dsc
 5233f3ae1ec45460c29615af662ee933 30785 debian-installer standard 
partitioner_0.32.tar.gz
 ab6eb000811f79dc7da64df8e67fe338 17410 debian-installer standard 
partitioner_0.32_mips.udeb
Package-Type: udeb

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Accepted:
partitioner_0.32.dsc
  to pool/main/p/partitioner/partitioner_0.32.dsc
partitioner_0.32.tar.gz
  to pool/main/p/partitioner/partitioner_0.32.tar.gz
partitioner_0.32_mips.udeb
  to pool/main/p/partitioner/partitioner_0.32_mips.udeb


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Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Miles Bader wrote:
  nicely as texlive-lang-tibetan and texlive-fonts-recommended.
 
 On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Rogério Brito wrote:
   texlive-binaries-source   96M
 texlive-basicbin
  What about texlive-bin-base?
 
 
 As I said, it is true that I can arbitrary hyphens, but there was a
 decisison behind these names: Keeping the collections of TeX live (this
 is what users see when they use the installer) and the debian packages
 namewise in sync.
 
 I have no problem introducing different names, but only if I see good
 reasons other than I like it or it is usual like this. To me, the
 argument on name-sync collection-debiannames is strong enough to keep
 the current names.

FWIW, Debian package names prefer e.g. foo-en-uk-doc over
foo-documentation-ukenglish. This allows to filter documentation
packages by name (doc-* or *-doc), and following the standardized
ISO abbreviations also seems to be better than using yet another
scheme.


Thiemo


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Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andrew Vaughan wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:28, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
  FWIW, Debian package names prefer e.g. foo-en-uk-doc over
  foo-documentation-ukenglish. This allows to filter documentation
  packages by name (doc-* or *-doc), and following the standardized
  ISO abbreviations also seems to be better than using yet another
  scheme.
 
 As a user, I much prefer 
 foo   
  + libfoo 
  + foo-doc-en
  + foo-doc-fr
 rather than   
 foo   
  + libfoo 
  + foo-en-doc
  + foo-fr-doc
 
 To me the hierarchy tree 
 package-sub-package-type-language/locale
 is much more natural than 
 package-language/locale-sub-package-type

It may look more natural, but it makes pattern matching harder
(e.g. python-docutils is a false positive for the naive approach).


Thiemo


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Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Norbert Preining wrote:
[snip]
 For the language stuff: Here is a problem as some languages packages are
 not *one* single language, but several (arabic, cjk, other). So would it
 be the best solution to have
   old:texlive-langX
   new:texlive--lang
 ?

Arabic is ar, IIRC. For groups of languages like cjk or indic it might
make sense to split the packages further, or, if that's not feasible,
use e.g. texlive-cjk-lang (but make sure the abbreviation is not ISO-style
two-character).

 Finally a question concerning the package build from binaries-source:
 texlive-binaries-source 96M
 texlive-basicbin texlive-binextra texlive-fontbin texlive-htmlxml
 texlive-metapost texlive-omega texlive-pdfetex texlive-psutils
 texlive-ttfutils texlive-music texlive-langindic texlive-graphicstools
 texlive-langcjk
 Renaming some of them in the `obvious' way is in fact misleading: Take
 eg 
   old:texlive-binextra
 and rename it to
   new:texlive-extra-bin
 Then most Debian users would expect a package texlive-extra and this
 one would provide only the binaries.
 
 But in binextra there are not the binaries for some extra package, there
 are just extra binaries including the necessary support files, so
 complete packages.

Probably texlive-extra and texlive-fontutils then? In any case, there's
not much need to search for executables only packages.


Thiemo


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Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-28 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Marvin Renich wrote:
 * Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED] [051128 11:20]:
  Dear all!
  
  Please comment, not only on the package naming, but also on the
  bin-to-source mapping.
  
  
  texlive-documentation-source57M
  
  Reasoning: The documenatation is actually in a specific language, so we use
  the respective language code.
  texlive-documentation-base  texlive-base-doc
  texlive-documentation-bulgarian texlive-bg-doc
  texlive-documentation-czechslovak texlive-cs-doc
  texlive-documentation-dutch texlive-nl-doc
  texlive-documentation-english   texlive-en-doc
  
  
  Best wishes
  
  Norbert
  
 
 In [1], Thiemo Seufer asserts that FWIW, Debian package names prefer
 e.g. foo-en-uk-doc over foo-documentation-ukenglish.  I completely
 disagree.

The point was about documentation and ukenglish.

 There is already precedent for using foo-doc-fr ordering of -doc-LANG:
 aptitude-doc-XX, udo-doc-XX, mdnkit-doc-XX, otrs-doc-XX,
 speechd-el-doc-cs (the -el- is emacs lisp, -cs is Czech),
 speech-dispatcher-doc-cs, lifelines-doc-sv, samba-doc-ja.
 
 I saw no examples of -XX-doc with XX a language.

apt-cache pkgnames |egrep '(^doc-|-doc-|-doc$|-docs$)'
should catch most documentation packages, it shows the -doc suffix as
the most popular one.

 The most notable exceptions to PKG-doc-XX were doc-linux-XX and
 doc-debian-XX, but in these cases, you can consider 'doc-linux' and
 'doc-debian' to be the package names, rather than documentation for the
 linux or debian package.  And, the -XX still came after.
 
 I think -doc-XX is more natural, and I don't see why in [2] Thiemo said
 that it made pattern matching harder.  In fact, I think it is easier to
 find documentation for the foo package with foo-doc; then you can easily
 see what languages are available.

If you know you are intersted in foo, then it is easy anyway
(apt-cache pkgnames instead of search for the purpose of this
discussion):

apt-cache pkgnames | grep '^foo.*-doc$'

If the idea is to remove some documentation from a space-constrained
system, a -doc suffix would be easier.


Thiemo


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Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-25 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Brian May wrote:
  Thiemo == Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Well, even if I know naught about it, it looks to me that having
  something signed is better than having the same something not signed.
 
 Thiemo Sorry, but that's a snake oil rationale.
 
 A: Why do you lock your car up[1]?
 
 B: Because it looks like having it locked is better then not having it
 locked.
 
 A: Sorry, but that's a snake oil rationale. Anybody can pick the lock
 and break in. Anybody can smash a window and break in. etc.

Wrong, it makes break-ins harder. OTOH we don't put stickers with
this car is locked on our cars.

The quote above suggested a signed package is somehow better than an
unsigned one, even when no improvements can be shown. But the only
thing it reliably achieves in that case is to increase the exposure of
the signing key.


Thiemo


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
 [Please, Cc: to me, I am not currently subscribed to debian-devel.]
 
 * Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-24 02:13]:
 
  Stephen Gran wrote:
   FWIW, Rafael, at first blush I have to say I agree with you.  A
   maintainer address in Debian is just a way to get in touch with someone
   when something goes wrong with the package.  If the mailing list is a
   good way to get in touch with people when those packages break, then it
   seems like a reasonable maintainer address.
  
  AFAIU the changelog entry is supposed to bear the name of the uploader,
  and thus can't be a mailing list. Policy 4.4 seems to support this:
  
  The maintainer name and email address used in the changelog should
   be the details of the person uploading this version. They are not
   necessarily those of the usual package maintainer.
[snip]
 I think that are two distinct concepts here.  The first is the maintainer
 of the package, which should receive any e-mail messages related to the
 package.  This name appears in the debian/changelog entry as well as in
 the Maintainer field.  All correspondence must be directed to this entity
 (either a person or a mailing list).

You apparently missed the quote above, which specifically talks about
the person uploading.


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote:
[snip]
The maintainer name and email address used in the changelog should
 be the details of the person uploading this version. They are not
 necessarily those of the usual package maintainer.
  [snip]
   I think that are two distinct concepts here.  The first is the maintainer
   of the package, which should receive any e-mail messages related to the
   package.  This name appears in the debian/changelog entry as well as in
   the Maintainer field.  All correspondence must be directed to this entity
   (either a person or a mailing list).
  
  You apparently missed the quote above, which specifically talks about
  the person uploading.
 
 And we are in danger of allowing policy to drive practice, rather than
 vice versa.  

This rule is in policy for a long time now. If you want to have it
changed, please propose a policy change instead of simply violating
policy.

 The problem is, there are many packages currently being group
 maintained.  These groups generally have some sort of group contact
 email address:
 grep-dctrl -n -s Maintainer '' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources | grep list | wc -l
 843
 
 I see exactly one false positive in that rather simple minded test, so
 the number of packages maintined in this way is rather high.
 
 So, the complaint was that this:
 
   Maintainer: s390 Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Changed-By: Debian Octave Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Doesn't have a real person behind it.  When I look at the original,
 though, I see:
 
 Maintainer: Debian Octave Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Changed-By: Rafael Laboissiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 That looks fine.
 
 It seems to me policy is lagging behind actual practice here, and the
 right thing to do is add something to the effect that the maintainer
 field may also contain the contact information for the group maintaining
 a package if it is group maintianed, so long as the Changed-By: field in
 the original upload still contains the real name of the uploader.

How could the autobuilder find out what the original Changed-By: content
was? That is, short of reverse-engineering it from the signed .dsc,
which may still choose the wrong key uid.


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote:
[snip]
 And we are in danger of allowing policy to drive practice, rather than
 vice versa.  
 
 The problem is, there are many packages currently being group
 maintained.  These groups generally have some sort of group contact
 email address:
 grep-dctrl -n -s Maintainer '' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources | grep list | wc -l
 843
 
 I see exactly one false positive in that rather simple minded test, so
 the number of packages maintined in this way is rather high.

Btw, about this simple-minded test:
299 of those are maintained by the Debian Install System Team, and
nobody there felt compelled to put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the changelog
for whatever reason.


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Thiemo Seufer said:
  Btw, about this simple-minded test:
  299 of those are maintained by the Debian Install System Team, and
  nobody there felt compelled to put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the changelog
  for whatever reason.
 
 What is the difference betwen this:
 
 Maintainer: Debian Octave Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Changed-By: Rafael Laboissiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and this:
 
 Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-boot@lists.debian.org
 Changed-By: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If you can show me where one is wrong and the other is right, I'll keep
 quiet.

None is wrong or right. Both are contents of a .changes file,
unavailable for a (re-)build from source.


Thiemo


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Thiemo Seufer said:
  Stephen Gran wrote:
   This one time, at band camp, Thiemo Seufer said:
Btw, about this simple-minded test:
299 of those are maintained by the Debian Install System Team, and
nobody there felt compelled to put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the changelog
for whatever reason.
   
   What is the difference betwen this:
   
   Maintainer: Debian Octave Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Changed-By: Rafael Laboissiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   and this:
   
   Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-boot@lists.debian.org
   Changed-By: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   If you can show me where one is wrong and the other is right, I'll keep
   quiet.
  
  None is wrong or right. Both are contents of a .changes file,
  unavailable for a (re-)build from source.
 
 But the .dsc is.

Which has no Changed-By: field.

 This stuff is easily traceable, if we want to.  I can
 see the benefit of having the same name in the Maintainer field and in the
 changelog for some.

A better one than Because I want to? Note that the Maintainer field is
changed by buildds, their uploads count as (binary) NMU.

 I can see arguments against it, but none that make
 it an RC bug.

Policy violations are RC by definition.

 We still have the original signatures on the dsc and
 changes to find out who uploaded it, if we're interested.

Only by tracking down the .changes file of the original upload.


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Isaac Clerencia wrote:
 On Thursday, 24 November 2005 22:03, Stephen Gran wrote:
  But the .dsc is.  This stuff is easily traceable, if we want to.  I can
  see the benefit of having the same name in the Maintainer field and in the
  changelog for some.  I can see arguments against it, but none that make
  it an RC bug.  We still have the original signatures on the dsc and
  changes to find out who uploaded it, if we're interested.
 
 My opinion is that the Changed-By: should reflect the people who has changed 
 the package in the best possible way, and if that way is by putting a mailing 
 list there I can't see any problem with it.

This obviously isn't achieved when the Changed-By: differs between the
initial upload and later (re-)builds.

Also, the people who has changed the package from the archive's POV
is the person who signed the upload. For the package's users the
Changed-By: is rather irrelevant, they have Maintainer: encoded in the
package (which stems from the control file, not from the changelog).

 BTW, I'm the person who recommended to Rafael that kind of changelog 
 schema based on the practices of the Debian Qt/KDE team.


Thiemo


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-24 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Isaac Clerencia wrote:
 On Thursday, 24 November 2005 22:36, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
   I can see arguments against it, but none that make
   it an RC bug.
 
  Policy violations are RC by definition.
 According to policy should's are not RC.

Policy 5.6.4 has no should.


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Re: Bug#340428: octave2.9 - lists mailing list as uploader in changelog

2005-11-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Stephen Gran wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Rafael Laboissiere said:
  I am moving this discussion to debian-devel, since I am not sure we
  are really violating the Policy.  Feel free to move it further to
  debian-policy, if you think it is appropriate.
 
 FWIW, Rafael, at first blush I have to say I agree with you.  A
 maintainer address in Debian is just a way to get in touch with someone
 when something goes wrong with the package.  If the mailing list is a
 good way to get in touch with people when those packages break, then it
 seems like a reasonable maintainer address.

AFAIU the changelog entry is supposed to bear the name of the uploader,
and thus can't be a mailing list. Policy 4.4 seems to support this:

The maintainer name and email address used in the changelog should
 be the details of the person uploading this version. They are not
 necessarily those of the usual package maintainer.

 Bastian, what's the rationale for the filings you've been doing?  Do you
 really think a mailing list address, (where any and all correspondence
 about the packages is presumably archived and possibly even publicly
 accessible), is somehow worse than mailing a single person (who
 hopefully archives their package mail, but maybe not, and can almost be
 guaranteed not to have publicly browseable archives)?  What are you
 hoping to do here?

It provides a convenient way to find the person who did the final
touches before an upload. The uses you are arguing are covered by
the Maintainer: field.


Thiemo


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Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Marc Haber wrote:
[snip]
  How is it possible for you to claim something is more secure
 when you don't understand it well enough to say how it's different?
 
 Well, even if I know naught about it, it looks to me that having
 something signed is better than having the same something not signed.

Sorry, but that's a snake oil rationale.


Thiemo


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Accepted gcc-2.95 2.95.4.ds15-24 (mips all source)

2005-11-18 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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gcc-2.95-doc
Architecture: mips all source
Version: 2.95.4.ds15-24
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
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 gcc-2.95   - The GNU C compiler
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Closes: 339703
Changes: 
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 .
   * Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 * Remove sparc-gcc4-fix.dpatch again, fix sparc FTBFS
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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Mark Brown wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:30:00PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
  The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99
  terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where
  this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued
  maintenance of gcc 2.95?
 
 It was relatively common to find C++ code that wouldn't build with the
 new C++ front end in GCC 3.0.

Is there one left today? (Does this mean it is dead upstream?)


Thiemo


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
 
 
  Dave Carrigan wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:00:06PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
  
   this makes it IMHO a plausible release goal to get rid of 2.95
   maintenance for etch.
  
  No it is not. Just because debian packages don't use 2.95 doesn't mean
  that end users have the same luxury.
  
  The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99
  terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where
  this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued
  maintenance of gcc 2.95?
 
 Device driver development for embedded systems? There are embedded systems,
 including x86-based, that run kernels which fail to compile with gcc =
 3.x.

In that case you likely need as well an older binutils version, which
probably means to use a sarge or even woody chroot.

 Also, people have some code (old completed internal projects, etc), which
 probably would never be ported to newer C++ standards (it's plainly too big
 job), but which are still useful to keep working - e.g. for
 demonstration/education/similar purposes.
 
 I have to deal with the both above situations. And I believe I'm far not
 alone here. So there is user benefit from keeping gcc 2.95 in usable state.
 Not fixing internal compiler bugs

AFAICS this makes a point to have some (un-/little) maintained version
of gcc-2.95 somewhere. It doesn't make a point to distribute it as part
of an official etch release.

 - user who faces old compiler's failure
 to build code should seriously consider switching to newer versions - but
 just keeping packages installable and usable.

Apparently those packages weren't useful/important enough to bring them
into Debian...


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
[snip]
  Also, people have some code (old completed internal projects, etc), which
  probably would never be ported to newer C++ standards (it's plainly too big
  job), but which are still useful to keep working - e.g. for
  demonstration/education/similar purposes.
  
  I have to deal with the both above situations. And I believe I'm far not
  alone here. So there is user benefit from keeping gcc 2.95 in usable state.
  Not fixing internal compiler bugs
 
 AFAICS this makes a point to have some (un-/little) maintained version
 of gcc-2.95 somewhere. It doesn't make a point to distribute it as part
 of an official etch release.
 
  - user who faces old compiler's failure
  to build code should seriously consider switching to newer versions - but
  just keeping packages installable and usable.
 
 Apparently those packages weren't useful/important enough to bring them
 into Debian...

s/packages/programs which need gcc 2.95/, that is.


Thiemo


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
 In linux.debian.devel, you wrote:
  The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99
  terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where
  this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued
  maintenance of gcc 2.95?
 
 [..]
 
  Also, people have some code (old completed internal projects, etc), which
  probably would never be ported to newer C++ standards (it's plainly too big
  job), but which are still useful to keep working - e.g. for
  demonstration/education/similar purposes.
 
  I have to deal with the both above situations. And I believe I'm far not
  alone here. So there is user benefit from keeping gcc 2.95 in usable state.
  Not fixing internal compiler bugs - user who faces old compiler's failure
  to build code should seriously consider switching to newer versions - but
  just keeping packages installable and usable.
 
 I agree. Plus, compilation of C code with 2.95 is typically twice as fast
 as 4.0. While 2.95 may be too buggy wrt C++, it's still useful for C.

I wouldn't recommend to compile new code with 2.95 just because it is
faster. It doesn't do standard C and misses many broken constructs which
are caught by newer compilers.

It may still have some use for regression tests, and for old code
without a prospect of getting updated. I don't know how relevant
those cases are for Debian.


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
   The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99
   terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where
   this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued
   maintenance of gcc 2.95?
  
  Device driver development for embedded systems? There are embedded
  systems, including x86-based, that run kernels which fail to compile with
  gcc = 3.x.
  
  In that case you likely need as well an older binutils version, which
  probably means to use a sarge or even woody chroot.
 
 I have not yet faced a situation where newer binutils wont, work.

#336022, as the latest example I saw.

[snip]
  Apparently those packages weren't useful/important enough to bring them
  into Debian...
 
 Are debian compiler packages intended to compile debian packages only, or
 also to be used as compiler for non-debian tasks also?

IMHO the latter, as long as it incurs no additional overhead.

 The situation is: gcc-2.95 is no longer needed to compile debian packages,
 but it is still needed for other tasks, by many people.

By whom, and for what? So far I haven't heard a specific project's name.

 So why remove it?

Is it worth to fix when it breaks again? (Currently it FTBFS on alpha,
probably binutils-induced.)


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State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Hello All,

while preparing an upload of gcc-2.95 which fixes its worst problems
I wondered how many users of it are actually left. 9 packages in
unstable still declare a build dependency on gcc-2.95 or g++-2.95,
this makes it IMHO a plausible release goal to get rid of 2.95
maintenance for etch.

The appended list gives a short overview of what needs to be done
to achieve this. Please tell me if I missed or misunderstood something.


Thiemo


Unacknowledged NMU for  one year, FTBFS for  200 days, either update
or remove:

   Bao C. Ha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  curselBuild-Depends: gcc-2.95

Sparc bootloader, needs update:

   Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  silo  Build-Depends: gcc-2.95

Obsolete according to #debian-hurd, no request for removal filed yet:

   GNU Hurd Maintainers bug-hurd@gnu.org
  gnumach1  Build-Depends: gcc-2.95

Replacement (2.6 Kernel) in the works, should be removed once 2.6 is
stable enough:

   Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  kernel-image-2.4.27-m68k  Build-Depends: gcc-2.95
  kernel-patch-2.4.27-m68k  Build-Depends-Indep: gcc-2.95

Openfirmware emulator/replacement(?), powerpc specific, needs update:

   Guillem Jover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  openhackware  Build-Depends-Indep: gcc-2.95

Unacknowledged NMU for  one year, either update or remove:

   Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  gcccheckerBuild-Depends: gcc-2.95

Erraneous build dependency, should get fixed in the next upload, #336564:

   Robin Verduijn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mcvs  Build-Depends: gcc-2.95 [mips mipsel]

Malloc debugging, #285685 suggests it is broken for  300 days now,
either update or remove:

   Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ccmalloc  Build-Depends: g++-2.95 [alpha arm i386 m68k mips 
mipsel powerpc s390 sparc]


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Dave Carrigan wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:00:06PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
  this makes it IMHO a plausible release goal to get rid of 2.95
  maintenance for etch.
 
 No it is not. Just because debian packages don't use 2.95 doesn't mean
 that end users have the same luxury.

The need for gcc-2.95 usually means the source code is broken (in C99
terms) and should be fixed. Do you have an example of an use case where
this is unfeasible, and which is important enough to justify continued
maintenance of gcc 2.95?


Thiemo


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steve M. Robbins wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:00:06PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
  Malloc debugging, #285685 suggests it is broken for  300 days now,
  either update or remove:
  
 Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccmalloc  Build-Depends: g++-2.95 [alpha arm i386 m68k 
  mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc]
 
 It's not broken.  That bug is there to remind me to improve the package 
 dependencies.
 
 Ccmalloc isn't dependent on GCC 2.95 per se.  It's just that we build
 a stub for each supported version of g++.  So if 2.95 goes away, I'll
 just remove that build-dep.  No problem.

Ok, I'll record it as Build-Deps on g++-2.95 only to support gcc-2.95.


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Re: State of gcc 2.95 use in Debian unstable

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Ben Pfaff wrote:
 Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Unacknowledged NMU for  one year, either update or remove:
 
 Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gcccheckerBuild-Depends: gcc-2.95
 
 I recently filed a request to have this package removed.  It is
 not maintained upstream and valgrind is a better replacement.

JFTR, request for removal was #337558.


Thiemo


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Accepted gcc-2.95 2.95.4.ds15-23 (source i386 all)

2005-11-15 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:44:31 +0100
Source: gcc-2.95
Binary: cpp-2.95-doc libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 g77-2.95-doc cpp-2.95 gobjc-2.95 
libstdc++2.10-dbg gcc-2.95 gpc-2.95-doc chill-2.95 gpc-2.95 libg++2.8.1.3-dev 
libg++2.8.1.3-dbg libstdc++2.10-dev libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 g++-2.95 g77-2.95 
gcc-2.95-doc
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 2.95.4.ds15-23
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian GCC maintainers debian-gcc@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 chill-2.95 - The GNU CHILL compiler
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 cpp-2.95-doc - Documentation for the GNU C preprocessor (cpp)
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 gcc-2.95   - The GNU C compiler
 gcc-2.95-doc - Documentation for the GNU compilers (gcc, gobjc, g++)
 gobjc-2.95 - The GNU Objective-C compiler
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 libg++2.8.1.3-dbg - The GNU C++ extension library - debugging files
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 libstdc++2.10-dev - The GNU stdc++ library (development files)
 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 - The GNU stdc++ library
Changes: 
 gcc-2.95 (2.95.4.ds15-23) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 * Acknowledge NMU.
 * Use gcc 4 fix on all architectures.
 * Add myself to Uploaders.
 .
   * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
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Accepted linux-patch-2.6-mips 2.6.12-3 (source mips)

2005-11-08 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:14:46 +0100
Source: linux-patch-2.6-mips
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Architecture: source mips
Version: 2.6.12-3
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
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R5x00 CPU
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2.6.12
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Origin
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Octane
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Indy/Indigo2
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O2 with R5x00 CPU
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CPU
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 mips-tools - MIPS specific kernel tools
Closes: 335967
Changes: 
 linux-patch-2.6-mips (2.6.12-3) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * mips-tools lacked the elf2ecoff binary. (Closes: #335967)
   * Switch the little endian SWARM also to 32bit for now.
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linux-headers-2.6-r5k-ip32_2.6.12-3_mips.deb
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linux-image-2.6-r5k-ip32_2.6.12-3_mips.deb
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linux-image-r5k-ip32_2.6.12-3_mips.deb
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linux-headers-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn_2.6.12-3_mips.deb
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linux-image-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn_2.6.12-3_mips.deb
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linux-image-sb1-swarm-bn_2.6.12-3_mips.deb

Re: ncpfs_2.2.6-2_mipsel: FTBFS: internal compiler error: Floating point exception

2005-11-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:01:26AM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 Package: ncpfs
 Severity: serious
 Version: 2.2.6-2
 Tags: sid
 Justification: fails to build from source
 
 There was an error while trying to autobuild your package:
 
 Automatic build of ncpfs_2.2.6-2 on rem by sbuild/mipsel 69
 Build started at 20051028-2357
 
 [...]
 ** Using build dependencies supplied by package:
 Build-Depends: debhelper, libpam0g-dev, gettext
 
 [...]
 ncplib.c: In function 'ipx_make_reachable_rip':
 ncplib.c:595: internal compiler error: Floating point exception
 
 Bug#337864.
 
 Is this a well-known bug in gcc-4.0?

Yes, #336167, patch available, fixed upstream.

 Should I build-depend on gcc 3.4 [mip mipsel]?

Not if it isn't urgent.


Thiemo


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Re: more tolerant licensing for Debian infrastructure

2005-11-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 [was Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]
 
 On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 
 Remember that dpkg is GPLed, so there's a slightly awkward bootstrapping
 issue.
 
 
 This reminds me of an issue which I feel needs change but I've never felt 
 worked up enough to do anything about.
 
 Why do programs written specifically for Debian such as dpkg or apt, 
 have a license which is not compatible with some other DFSG-compliant 
 licenses?

Because the authors chose so.

 I understand we like the GPL but the DFSG is laxer in some 
 respects.  And the spirit of Debian is the DFSG not the GPL.
 
 I submit anything written specifically for the Debian Project should 
 either have some more permissive yet DFSG-compliant license or at 
 the most GPL + an exemption for linking to other DFSG compliant software.

Is there any source with a copyright assignment for The Debian Project?


Thiemo


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Re: more tolerant licensing for Debian infrastructure

2005-11-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 
 Why do programs written specifically for Debian such as dpkg or apt,
 have a license which is not compatible with some other DFSG-compliant
 licenses?
 
 Because the authors chose so.
 
 
 Obviously.  But the question was why they chose to do so when it goes 
 against the spirit of the DFSG?

You really want to claim the GPL violates the spirit of the DFSG?


Thiemo


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Accepted linux-patch-2.6-mips 2.6.12-2 (source mips)

2005-10-21 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:29:47 +0200
Source: linux-patch-2.6-mips
Binary: linux-headers-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip27 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30 
linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip27 linux-image-r5k-ip32 linux-image-2.6-r5k-ip32 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip27 linux-headers-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn 
linux-image-2.6-r4k-ip22 linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip30 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 linux-image-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 
linux-image-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn mips-tools linux-headers-2.6-r4k-ip22 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-r5k-ip32 linux-headers-2.6-r5k-ip32 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn linux-image-sb1-swarm-bn 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1-mips linux-headers-2.6.12-1 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 linux-image-r10k-ip27 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r5k-ip32 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 
linux-image-r10k-ip30 linux-image-r4k-ip22
Architecture: source mips
Version: 2.6.12-2
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Origin
 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Octane
 linux-headers-2.6-r4k-ip22 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI 
Indy/Indigo2
 linux-headers-2.6-r5k-ip32 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI O2 with 
R5x00 CPU
 linux-headers-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SWARM
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1 - Common header files for mips/mipsel Linux kernel 
2.6.12
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
Origin
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
Octane
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
Indy/Indigo2
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r5k-ip32 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
O2 with R5x00 CPU
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on 
SWARM
 linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI Origin
 linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip30 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI Octane
 linux-image-2.6-r4k-ip22 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI Indy/Indigo2
 linux-image-2.6-r5k-ip32 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI O2 with R5x00 CPU
 linux-image-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SWARM
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 linux-image-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on SGI Octane
 linux-image-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on SGI Indy/Indigo2
 linux-image-2.6.12-1-r5k-ip32 - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on SGI O2 with R5x00 
CPU
 linux-image-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on SWARM
 linux-image-r10k-ip27 - Linux kernel image on SGI Origin
 linux-image-r10k-ip30 - Linux kernel image on SGI Octane
 linux-image-r4k-ip22 - Linux kernel image on SGI Indy/Indigo2
 linux-image-r5k-ip32 - Linux kernel image on SGI O2 with R5x00 CPU
 linux-image-sb1-swarm-bn - Linux kernel image on SWARM
 mips-tools - MIPS specific kernel tools
Changes: 
 linux-patch-2.6-mips (2.6.12-2) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * Enable ll/sc workaround for Cobalt.
   * Fix package build for non-mips packages.
   * Add missing addrspace defines for SWARM.
   * Don't miss pending signals returning to user mode after signal
 processing.
   * Disable advansys scsi because it references ISA DMA.
   * Build in modules which have troubles with unexported functions.
   * Fix broken network checksumming.
   * Use a 32bit SWARM kernel, 64bit has module loading problems.
   * Disable cobalt for now, it doesn't boot.
Files: 
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linux-patch-2.6-mips_2.6.12-2.dsc
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linux-patch-2.6-mips_2.6.12-2.tar.gz
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linux-image-2.6-r4k-ip22_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip27_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-image-r10k-ip27_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip30_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-image-r10k-ip30_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-headers-2.6-r5k-ip32_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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linux-image-2.6-r5k-ip32_2.6.12-2_mips.deb
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Accepted kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips 2.4.27-11.040815-2 (source mips)

2005-10-07 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Source: kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips
Binary: kernel-headers-2.4.27 kernel-image-2.4.27-sb1-swarm-bn mips-tools 
kernel-image-2.4.27-r4k-kn04 kernel-image-2.4.27-r4k-ip22 
kernel-image-2.4.27-xxs1500 kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-lasat 
kernel-image-2.4.27-r3k-kn02 kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-cobalt 
kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-ip22
Architecture: source mips
Version: 2.4.27-11.040815-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 kernel-headers-2.4.27 - Header files related to a specific Linux kernel
 kernel-image-2.4.27-r4k-ip22 - Linux kernel binary image
 kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-ip22 - Linux kernel binary image
 kernel-image-2.4.27-sb1-swarm-bn - Linux kernel binary image
 mips-tools - mips specific kernel tools
Changes: 
 kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips (2.4.27-11.040815-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Enable built-in cramfs support for all kernels, needed for d-i.
Files: 
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kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips_2.4.27-11.040815-2.dsc
 cf6b9d0f3745b4336039120af2efd625 307878 devel optional 
kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips_2.4.27-11.040815-2.tar.gz
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mips-tools_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
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kernel-image-2.4.27-sb1-swarm-bn_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
 c6a4fcf267b0feecb6eb582dd46c9883 3866602 base optional 
kernel-image-2.4.27-r4k-ip22_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
 e97c3c7b705fe68a4aedb13e0c361f87 3869486 base optional 
kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-ip22_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
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kernel-image-2.4.27-r4k-ip22_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
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pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips/kernel-image-2.4.27-r4k-ip22_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-ip22_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
  to 
pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips/kernel-image-2.4.27-r5k-ip22_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
kernel-image-2.4.27-sb1-swarm-bn_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
  to 
pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips/kernel-image-2.4.27-sb1-swarm-bn_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips_2.4.27-11.040815-2.dsc
  to 
pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips_2.4.27-11.040815-2.dsc
kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips_2.4.27-11.040815-2.tar.gz
  to 
pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips_2.4.27-11.040815-2.tar.gz
mips-tools_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb
  to pool/main/k/kernel-patch-2.4.27-mips/mips-tools_2.4.27-11.040815-2_mips.deb


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Re: What do you do if a package is built and not uploaded?

2005-10-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Nathanael Nerode]
  I'm thinking of python2.1, which is a key element in some testing 
  transitions.
  It's out of date on alpha, mips, mipsel, and powerpc -- *yet the buildd logs
  indicate successful builds on all of them on August 30*.  I have already
  emailed debian-mips@lists.debian.org, and the listed maintainers of the
  relevant alpha and powerpc buildds.
 
 What to do?  Well, you curse the lack of transparecy in the buildd
 maintainence process, and hope the problem will be fixed soon.  I've
 not been able to find any other procedure that work better that this
 simple approach.  I've tried to emailing Ryan Murray using the address
 listed at the bottom of all the buildd web pages, but do not remember
 if I ever got a reply.  I've tried emailing the porters list, but most
 often this is either met with silence or I get a reply saying that the
 buildd admins for the given arhc are not reading the porters list.
 I've tried asking on IRC, and actually once got feedback from someone
 claiming to be the buildd maintainer of the arch in question (no way
 to verify this, have not found the list of maintainers), and some
 times one of the porters are willing to do a manual build.

Mailing {alpha,mips,[EMAIL PROTECTED] is my best guess. There
is usually no reply, but from some cases I conclude the mailboxes are
read. I don't know if those addresses are documented anywhere.


Thiemo


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Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
W. Borgert wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote:
  The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux
  developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb)
  port of Debian.  We have built 2500+ stable packages so far (see
  http://ftp.debonaras.org).
 
 Just a completely uninformed question: Wasn't the -el (endian
 little) in mipsel a pun on the wrong endianess?

I don't think so.

 If so,
 shouldn't it be armBE, because it's the right endianess?

-EL/-EB/-el/-eb are commonly used gcc switches to select endianness.
OTOH, the host configuration uses arm*b-* or arm*be-* for big endian
ARM, so a case could be made for both ways.


Thiemo


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Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Simon Richter wrote:
 Hi,
 
   Wrong is endian little that knows everyone but.
 
 Thgir yltcaxe!
 
 eurtub ,iw ta llobynt ydknih fo  ehtlihcnerd?

ac si tIirc delldne elpp ssennaire a rof-: .nosa   )


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Accepted arcboot 0.3.8.7 (source mips)

2005-09-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:15:35 +0200
Source: arcboot
Binary: arcboot tip22
Architecture: source mips
Version: 0.3.8.7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 arcboot- Bootloader for SGI/MIPS IP22 and IP32 machines
 tip22  - Tftp boot image builder for SGI/MIPS IP22 and IP32 machines
Closes: 313114 317662
Changes: 
 arcboot (0.3.8.7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add vietnamese translation, thanks Clytie Siddall (Closes: #313114).
   * Add czech translation, thanks Miroslav Kure (Closes: #317662).
   * Switch from the local e2fslib to the up-to-date libext2fs-nopic.a
 in Debian, but don't delete the old version for now.
   * Avoid inclusion of kernel headers.
Files: 
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 188e2720f305a8bf3835775eaa103e75 741070 admin optional arcboot_0.3.8.7.tar.gz
 d76de79a0d4ae728e09211654d830537 76562 admin optional arcboot_0.3.8.7_mips.deb
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arcboot_0.3.8.7_mips.deb
  to pool/main/a/arcboot/arcboot_0.3.8.7_mips.deb
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Accepted linux-patch-2.6-mips 2.6.12-1 (source mips)

2005-09-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:31:30 +0200
Source: linux-patch-2.6-mips
Binary: linux-headers-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip27 
linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30 linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip27 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 linux-image-r5k-ip32 linux-image-2.6-r5k-ip32 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip27 linux-headers-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn 
linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip30 linux-image-2.6-r4k-ip22 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 linux-image-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 
linux-image-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn mips-tools linux-headers-2.6-r4k-ip22 
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linux-image-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn linux-image-sb1-swarm-bn 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-mips 
linux-headers-2.6.12-1 linux-image-r10k-ip27 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r5k-ip32 
linux-image-r10k-ip30 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 linux-image-r4k-ip22
Architecture: source mips
Version: 2.6.12-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Origin
 linux-headers-2.6-r10k-ip30 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI Octane
 linux-headers-2.6-r4k-ip22 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI 
Indy/Indigo2
 linux-headers-2.6-r5k-ip32 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SGI O2 with 
R5x00 CPU
 linux-headers-2.6-sb1-swarm-bn - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6 on SWARM
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1 - Common header files for mips Linux kernel 2.6.12
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip27 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
Origin
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r10k-ip30 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
Octane
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r4k-ip22 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
Indy/Indigo2
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-r5k-ip32 - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on SGI 
O2 with R5x00 CPU
 linux-headers-2.6.12-1-sb1-swarm-bn - Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on 
SWARM
 linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip27 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI Origin
 linux-image-2.6-r10k-ip30 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI Octane
 linux-image-2.6-r4k-ip22 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on SGI Indy/Indigo2
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Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
John Hasler wrote:
 Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
  We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to
  have (the norwegian expression) verkshøyde, which implies a certain
  quality level as Andreas puts it.
 
 Do you mean quality or originality?

The amount of creativity the author put in _successfully_.

 Are you saying that if I write a
 highly original stream of conciousness novel that is judged by the critics
 to be of abysmal literary quality that I will be denied a copyright in
 Norway?

If the average audience consistently says this is useless crap then
that's basically the outcome. (Copyright wouldn't be denied, it is
either inherent in the work or not there at all. There's no copyright
registration like in the US, it's not needed.)

Is buggy spaghetti code not protected in Germany?

Computer programs are exempted from that requirement.

  As for the quality of the product of the entertainment industry, I'm not
  sure if your judgement matches that of the law.
 
 That's the problem.  How does the law judge the quality of works of
 authorship?  Do the courts employ panels of literary critics?

When they need external expertise they may do for that specific case.


Thiemo


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Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
 Hi, Andreas:
 
 El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió:
  * Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-06 17:39:06]:
   Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
   law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases.
 
  i spoke to a german lawyer about this exact (license) issue when
  skolelinux.de pondered an applicable license for it's wiki and
  aparently it is doubtfull that wiki content is worthy to protect
  in the first place. There needs to be a certain quality level
  reached, aparently, which is not necessarily given in a wiki.
 
  So this discussion about a license for the debian wiki might be
  very debianish but also irrelevant. (c:
 
 No, I don't think it isn't.
 Even if German laws renders not having a explicit license good enough for the 
 case at hand, reality is copyright laws *tends* to overprotect the author 
 against other (potential) users.  By explicitly saying what are the rights 
 you give to your users you:
 a) Make a case by the explicit announce it (so people can become aware that 
 not everybody will give the same rigths with their works) and
 b) Insure you are not dependant (to an extent, at least) on what's the 
 default for any given country's laws about this item.
 
 In Spain, for instance, not mentioning any explicit copyright notice gives 
 complete control to the author and no control (except for reading it in the 
 very media it originally was published) to the user.

Same in Germany. Relying on the speculation that no Debian wiki article
will ever be good enough to gain copyright protection is unwise IMHO.
It breaks down in exactly those cases where licensing is most likely to
become a real issue.

This may still not be a problem for Debian, because it can claim the
author's concludent permission to publish his work, but everyone who
redistributes/republishes some content from the wiki may face unexpected
trouble.


IANAL,
Thiemo


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Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
  Computer programs are exempted from that requirement.
 
 The work needs to have some kind of creative art.

Without any quality judgement, correct. This doesn't leave anything
of interest out.

 Trivial programs are also not protected in a lot countries.

I meant to refer to Germany specifially.


Thiemo


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Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
John Hasler wrote:
[snip]
  Are you saying that if I write a highly original stream of conciousness
  novel that is judged by the critics to be of abysmal literary quality
  that I will be denied a copyright in Norway?
 
 Thiemo Seufer writes:
  If the average audience consistently says this is useless crap then
  that's basically the outcome. (Copyright wouldn't be denied, it is either
  inherent in the work or not there at all. There's no copyright
  registration like in the US, it's not needed.)
 
 You appear to contradict yourself.  Do I have a copyright, or do I not?

You have if your work is worthwile to be protected.

 (BTW copyright is also automatic in the US.  Registration is only required
 just before you file suit, and then it's just a matter of a form and a
 small fee with no possibility of denial).
 
  When they need external expertise they may do for that specific case.
 
 So if I brought suit against someone for making unauthorized copies of my
 Usenet articles a court guided by panel of literary critics might rule them
 not worthy of protection?

If the court finds it can't decide the matter without a panel of
literary critics this may happen.


Thiemo


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