Re: CD images of Slink

1998-10-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Marcelo E. Laurenti wrote:

  On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 03:54:27PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
  
   I am wondering, if anybody tried to build a CDimage of Slink. Will
   main fit on one CDROM? For hamm this problem was addressed pretty
   late (main, contrib, non-free) and the solution was acceptable at
   best.
 
  I have. Slink's main section is about 750 MB right now. boot disks
  (disks-i386) are about 20 MB more. Documents, 2 MB. tools, 1 MB. 5
  MB more for indices (which I like to include on my cd's in case I
  screw up). 5 MB overhead for the cd-specific things (the table, the
  translation table, the other translation table, the padding, ...).
  You end up with 785 MB to put on a single CD.

 I solve getting only slink//binary- (all/i386)/admin/

there are still a lot of symlinks from slink to hamm.  

/debian/dists/slink$ du -sckL */binary-i386/
112169  contrib/binary-i386
769521  main/binary-i386
5727non-US/binary-i386
160401  non-free/binary-i386
1047818 total

non-free and non-US don't matter for the CD, but main is 769MB and
contrib is 112MB.

i think what we need is a kernel driver for swappable CDs - some sort of
CD jukebox emulator. or apt could be made to do this without any kernel
hacks.


just for curiosity's sake, editors, x11, doc, and devel seem to be the
largest sections.

/debian/dists/slink$ du -sckL main/binary-i386/* | sort -n
447 main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
858 main/binary-i386/hamradio
1298main/binary-i386/electronics
1518main/binary-i386/Packages
1870main/binary-i386/shells
3733main/binary-i386/news
3873main/binary-i386/misc
4883main/binary-i386/comm
9682main/binary-i386/admin
9987main/binary-i386/otherosfs
12022   main/binary-i386/base
15255   main/binary-i386/mail
15700   main/binary-i386/web
17173   main/binary-i386/oldlibs
17376   main/binary-i386/sound
17709   main/binary-i386/utils
20971   main/binary-i386/net
21904   main/binary-i386/libs
22815   main/binary-i386/games
25151   main/binary-i386/graphics
25155   main/binary-i386/interpreters
38269   main/binary-i386/tex
41465   main/binary-i386/math
45991   main/binary-i386/text
69621   main/binary-i386/editors
70242   main/binary-i386/x11
82342   main/binary-i386/doc
172210  main/binary-i386/devel
769520  total

craig

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Re: CD images of Slink

1998-10-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 09:01:09AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:

 just for curiosity's sake, editors,

four different emacsen

 x11

xbooks

 doc

the gimp manual

 devel seem to be the

lots of -dev and -dbg stuff

(don't take me wrong, all of this is good!)

I do think rethinking what's extra would solve the problem this time. Or
splitting the CD's in Requiered, Important, Standard + optional(depended
upon) and another CD which contains optional (dependens on) + extra. Then
apt would solve the problem of installation ordering.


Marcelo



CD images of Slink

1998-10-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch

I am wondering, if anybody tried to build a CDimage of Slink. Will main fit on 
one CDROM? For hamm this problem was addressed pretty late (main, contrib, 
non-free) and the solution was acceptable at best.

Or is this problem completely obsolete with Apt?

Thanks.


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Re: CD images of Slink

1998-10-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 03:54:27PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

 I am wondering, if anybody tried to build a CDimage of Slink. Will main
 fit on one CDROM? For hamm this problem was addressed pretty late (main,
 contrib, non-free) and the solution was acceptable at best.

I have. Slink's main section is about 750 MB right now. boot disks
(disks-i386) are about 20 MB more. Documents, 2 MB. tools, 1 MB. 5 MB more
for indices (which I like to include on my cd's in case I screw up). 5 MB
overhead for the cd-specific things (the table, the translation table, the
other translation table, the padding, ...). You end up with 785 MB to put on
a single CD.

I was toying with this the other day; I ended up using a script to get only
packages with priority != extra, but that still won't fit on a single CD. I
nuked a few packages by hand some versions of emacs) and I got it under 630,
which is about ok for me because I like to add the lastest 2.1 kernel plus a
few patches.

It seems now it's a good time to rethink what's extra.


Marcelo



Re: CD images of Slink

1998-10-05 Thread Marcelo E. Laurenti
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 03:54:27PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 
  I am wondering, if anybody tried to build a CDimage of Slink. Will main
  fit on one CDROM? For hamm this problem was addressed pretty late (main,
  contrib, non-free) and the solution was acceptable at best.
 
 I have. Slink's main section is about 750 MB right now. boot disks
 (disks-i386) are about 20 MB more. Documents, 2 MB. tools, 1 MB. 5 MB more
 for indices (which I like to include on my cd's in case I screw up). 5 MB
 overhead for the cd-specific things (the table, the translation table, the
 other translation table, the padding, ...). You end up with 785 MB to put on
 a single CD.

I solve getting only slink//binary- (all/i386)/admin/

 
 I was toying with this the other day; I ended up using a script to get only
 packages with priority != extra, but that still won't fit on a single CD. I
 nuked a few packages by hand some versions of emacs) and I got it under 630,
 which is about ok for me because I like to add the lastest 2.1 kernel plus a
 few patches.
 
 It seems now it's a good time to rethink what's extra.
 
 
   Marcelo
 
 
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