Re: [pkg-wpa-devel] Re: Bug#376521: ITP: kwlan -- wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

2006-07-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 08:29:34AM +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> > As a user: can we please try to have wireless network profiles etc. stored
> > as far away from the gui as possible?  No need for the commandline, gnome,
> > KDE, xfce and gnustep wireless applets have their own set of stored
> > profiles, when they're using the same backend logic anyway...
> 
> That's right. Currently there are two reasons why wpa_profiles are not stored 
> in the default wpa_configuration files and why there are additional 
> configuration files:
> * wpa_supplicant uses global files so you cannot define profiles per 
> user, which in my oppinion is a drawback

I don't think you can really blame the wpasupplicant package here. It's
rather that ifupdown doesn't provide means to configure user based
'location' information, like say, static ips, custom openvpn connections
or proxy settings.

You can however put this in /etc/network/interfaces:

iface wlan inet manual
pre-up /usr/local/sbin/detect-user
wpa-roam /var/run/current-wpa_supplicant.conf

/usr/local/sbin/detect-user would be a script which detects the current
logged in user, with a same fail back (so it doesn't fail in most
cornercases), and sets a symlink in /var/run/current-wpa_supplicant.conf
to the actual user crafted (oder generated) wpa_supplicant.conf file.

This isn't really nice, I know. But you see, the current wpasupplicant
package enables other packages to provide solutions (or hacks) like
this.

> * wpa_supplicant has no options in it's config files for static ip 
> addresses, name servers etc. I would like to be able to configure dns 
> searchlists, non-default routes etc.

This is not the task for wpa_supplicant.

> Upstream author of kwlan will be happy to change kwlan's behavior if you have 
> a better solution for this.

Better work with netconf-devel [1] on a ifupdown replacement, which gets
around the limitations you currently encounter.

Gruesse,
Reinhard


[1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf-devel 


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Re: Bug#376521: ITP: kwlan -- wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

2006-07-10 Thread Fathi Boudra
Hi,

> As a user: can we please try to have wireless network profiles etc. stored
> as far away from the gui as possible?  No need for the commandline, gnome,
> KDE, xfce and gnustep wireless applets have their own set of stored
> profiles, when they're using the same backend logic anyway...

That's right. Currently there are two reasons why wpa_profiles are not stored 
in the default wpa_configuration files and why there are additional 
configuration files:
* wpa_supplicant uses global files so you cannot define profiles per 
user, which in my oppinion is a drawback
* wpa_supplicant has no options in it's config files for static ip 
addresses, name servers etc. I would like to be able to configure dns 
searchlists, non-default routes etc.

Upstream author of kwlan will be happy to change kwlan's behavior if you have 
a better solution for this.

cheers,

Fathi


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Re: Bug#376521: ITP: kwlan -- wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

2006-07-09 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 03 July 2006 17:16, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> Hi Reinhard,
>
> > Perhaps you are interested in joining the pkg-wpa team on alioth [1]?
[...]
> There's many K wireless tools but none really perfect maybe
> we can cooperate to have only one good tool nicely integrated with
> wpa_supplicant.

Yodel!

As a user: can we please try to have wireless network profiles etc. stored 
as far away from the gui as possible?  No need for the commandline, gnome, 
KDE, xfce and gnustep wireless applets have their own set of stored 
profiles, when they're using the same backend logic anyway...

(Perhaps this is already the case here, so sorry for bugging you, but in 
general the scenario I describe above is what usually happens.  mobile 
network is still new enough so that maybe this time the mess can be 
avoided...)

cheers
-- vbi

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Re: Bug#376521: ITP: kwlan -- wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

2006-07-03 Thread Fathi Boudra
Hi Reinhard,

> Perhaps you are interested in joining the pkg-wpa team on alioth [1]?
> We could share an svn repository and discuss best integration of kwlan
> into the wpasupplicant package in debian on the wpa-pkg-devel
> mailinglist [2].

thanks for the offer, but i have already uploaded kwlan and put it under kde 
extras team maintenance. In fact, this morning, i talked with kel about 
kwlan. There's many K wireless tools but none really perfect maybe we can 
cooperate to have only one good tool nicely integrated with wpa_supplicant.

cheers,

Fathi


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Re: ITP: kwlan -- wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

2006-07-03 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 02:45:18PM +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Fathi Boudra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: kwlan
>   Version : 0.4.7
>   Upstream Author : Thomas Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://home.arcor.de/tom.michel
> * License : dual licensed GPL-2 and BSD license
>   Description: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE
> 
>  Kwlan is a wireless lan manager for KDE. It uses wpasupplicant to connect
>  to wireless networks. It allows to configure different network profiles using
>  all encryptions wpasupplicant provides (wep, wpa, wpa2 etc). Systray icon
>  shows connection status.
> 
>  Features:
>   * Scan for available networks
>   * Configure WPA Supplicant network profiles
>   * Systray icon displays connection status
>   * Dynamic or static IP address configuration
> 
>  It is based on wpa_gui by Jouni Malinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I had a look at the website, on the first look, it seems quite similar
to wpa_gui, but on the other hand, it seems to have additional
functionality like starting wpasupplicant on session login.

Perhaps you are interested in joining the pkg-wpa team on alioth [1]?
We could share an svn repository and discuss best integration of kwlan
into the wpasupplicant package in debian on the wpa-pkg-devel
mailinglist [2].

Gruesse,
Reinhard


[1] http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-wpa 
[2] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-wpa-devel


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ITP: kwlan -- wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

2006-07-03 Thread Fathi Boudra
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Fathi Boudra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: kwlan
  Version : 0.4.7
  Upstream Author : Thomas Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://home.arcor.de/tom.michel
* License : dual licensed GPL-2 and BSD license
  Description: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE

 Kwlan is a wireless lan manager for KDE. It uses wpasupplicant to connect
 to wireless networks. It allows to configure different network profiles using
 all encryptions wpasupplicant provides (wep, wpa, wpa2 etc). Systray icon
 shows connection status.

 Features:
  * Scan for available networks
  * Configure WPA Supplicant network profiles
  * Systray icon displays connection status
  * Dynamic or static IP address configuration

 It is based on wpa_gui by Jouni Malinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

cheers,

Fathi


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