Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-29 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> No, not yet. But as it must integrate in what we already have ... WML has
> support for eperl. But I have decided of absolutely nothing and it's
> possible that I end without eperl and without php with a simple perl
> script (I don't know python but most of the db.debian.org stuff is written
> in Python AFAIK) that will generate the HTML files.

We have chatted about moving db.d.o to PHP4 which has ldap and the right
sort (tm) of session management supprt. The web site is written completely
in perl.

Jason



Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 02:58:15PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz écrivait:
> that's exactly the name i was going to suggest. has the author decided on a
> language to tame this beast in? if php, i'd love to help.

No, not yet. But as it must integrate in what we already have ... WML has
support for eperl. But I have decided of absolutely nothing and it's
possible that I end without eperl and without php with a simple perl
script (I don't know python but most of the db.debian.org stuff is written
in Python AFAIK) that will generate the HTML files.

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-27 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Jordi Mallach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Haha! Pleaase let's call it my.debian.org, *grin*.
> Now, something like this would be really useful.

that's exactly the name i was going to suggest. has the author decided on a
language to tame this beast in? if php, i'd love to help.

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 11:51:19AM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer écrivait:
> Hmm, /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg lists 278 identities,
> while the Maintainer fields in my available file lists 543 separate
> values.

$ gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.pgp 
--list-key | sort | uniq | wc -l
   1211
$ gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.pgp 
--list-key | grep pub | wc -l   
528

[ I used the pgp keyring ... and thoses number are still not significant
since one may have several keys (PGP and GPG) ]

When I said identities I meant the name + email that can be different for
the same guy... 

Anyway, if the number doesn't match exactly it may be because we have
already several dozen of future Debian developers that are sponsored. 

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-27 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 10:40:27PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > Hey people ! I posted this mail in order to have some input ... it would
> > be great if some of you gave their opinion about this proposition I posted
> > a while ago :
> 
> I guess the silent majority overwhelmingly agrees to your proposal ;)

Yeah, I agree this is a great idea :) We want this done by the end of the
week :P

> 
> > > With this system, each developer can add his own page on one of his
> > > bookmark and from time to time he can check what he's responsible for and
> > > what he should do in one look.
> 
> It would be my first bookmark... please do it :)

Haha! Pleaase let's call it my.debian.org, *grin*.
Now, something like this would be really useful.

Jordi

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yes I know, I should probably extract all the "identities" from a single
> PGP/GPG key and look for all those adresses in the Packages file. Or
> something like that.

Hmm, /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg lists 278 identities,
while the Maintainer fields in my available file lists 543 separate
values.

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 06:02:43PM -0700, Randolph Chung écrivait:
> Hi Raphael,

Hi,

> easy to add. Jason would be the person to do this (add a field to the db).
> The web interface can easily be changed to update/view this info.

That's what I thought. :)

> the problem with this is that many maintainers have packages registered
> under different forms of their email address, so this is actually more
> difficult to do. You will probably need to do something with the pgp/gpg sig
> on the .dsc files. again, this is something i've looked at in the past, but
> at that time i was asked to hold off until the bug system has been overhauled.

Yes I know, I should probably extract all the "identities" from a single
PGP/GPG key and look for all those adresses in the Packages file. Or
something like that.

> Wouldn't this just be a link to the mail archive for that mailing list?

yes, probably.

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-27 Thread Randolph Chung
Hi Raphael,

> - information about the NMU policy that the maintainer has adopted
>   (timeframe before a NMU is allowed, do i need an authorization to do a
>   nmu ?, ...)

easy to add. Jason would be the person to do this (add a field to the db).
The web interface can easily be changed to update/view this info.

> - the list of packages he's maintaining (yes some maintainer forget
>   that they're maintaining some packages) with up-to-date statistics for
>   each package (number of important/normal/wishlist bugs,
>   standards-version that it does follow, last upload)

I actually have some code to do this, but until our bug system is ldapified
or at least have a non-textual backend, it will be difficult to do. Ben has
a bts ldap setup, but i understand it is not official and not necessarily
maintained all the time.

> - a link to the personnal bug page

the problem with this is that many maintainers have packages registered
under different forms of their email address, so this is actually more
difficult to do. You will probably need to do something with the pgp/gpg sig
on the .dsc files. again, this is something i've looked at in the past, but
at that time i was asked to hold off until the bug system has been overhauled.

> - any other information that may be suitable for such a page like
>   the latest news that must be read by Debian developers (think
>   about debian-devel-announce)

Wouldn't this just be a link to the mail archive for that mailing list?

randolph
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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 06:10:36PM +0200, Petr Cech écrivait:
> This is cool. Could it be added to db.d.o  right now?

It could, but not right now since I've not yet started to 
work on this... I'll have some technical details to resolve.
I need access to the BTS, the LDAP database and probably the 
lintian lab (in order packages's information like standard-version
and last upload date)... 

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-26 Thread Petr Cech
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 09:51:50PM +0100 , Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:31:54AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog écrivait:
> > Hi dear co-developers,
> 
> Hey people ! I posted this mail in order to have some input ... it would
> be great if some of you gave their opinion about this proposition I posted
> a while ago :

OK

> > I think that we need a page (possibly a cgi or a page automatically updated
> > once a day) that would give the maximum of information concerning one
> > maintainer. This would include :
> > - information from the LDAP db (name, email, last seen on ...)
> > - information about the NMU policy that the maintainer has adopted
> >   (timeframe before a NMU is allowed, do i need an authorization to do a
> >   nmu ?, ...)

This is cool. Could it be added to db.d.o  right now?



[snip]

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-26 Thread Peter Makholm
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey people ! I posted this mail in order to have some input ... it would
> be great if some of you gave their opinion about this proposition I posted
> a while ago :

Just like everyone else: A great idea to which I have no futher idears
right now.

If I wasn't to afraid to sound to AOLish I would have posted a "good
idea" to the first post.

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 09:51:50PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hey people ! I posted this mail in order to have some input ... it would
> be great if some of you gave their opinion about this proposition I posted
> a while ago :
[..]

I'd have to bookmark myself.  ;>

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-26 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 10:40:27PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
[snip]

> 
> > > With this system, each developer can add his own page on one of his
> > > bookmark and from time to time he can check what he's responsible for and
> > > what he should do in one look.
> [snip]
> 
> It would be my first bookmark... please do it :)
it would mine too.

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 09:51:50PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Hi dear co-developers,
> 
> Hey people ! I posted this mail in order to have some input ... it would
> be great if some of you gave their opinion about this proposition I posted
> a while ago :

I guess the silent majority overwhelmingly agrees to your proposal ;)

> > - information about the NMU policy that the maintainer has adopted
> >   (timeframe before a NMU is allowed, do i need an authorization to do a
> >   nmu ?, ...)

This should also be implemented through a database.

> > With this system, each developer can add his own page on one of his
> > bookmark and from time to time he can check what he's responsible for and
> > what he should do in one look.
[snip]

It would be my first bookmark... please do it :)

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Re: Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:31:54AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog écrivait:
> Hi dear co-developers,

Hey people ! I posted this mail in order to have some input ... it would
be great if some of you gave their opinion about this proposition I posted
a while ago :

> we're so many developers that's it's getting difficult to know us each
> other and even more difficult to know our respective habits concerning the
> way we're doing our Debian job.
> 
> I think that we need a page (possibly a cgi or a page automatically updated
> once a day) that would give the maximum of information concerning one
> maintainer. This would include :
> - information from the LDAP db (name, email, last seen on ...)
> - information about the NMU policy that the maintainer has adopted
>   (timeframe before a NMU is allowed, do i need an authorization to do a
>   nmu ?, ...)
> - the list of packages he's maintaining (yes some maintainer forget
>   that they're maintaining some packages) with up-to-date statistics for
>   each package (number of important/normal/wishlist bugs,
>   standards-version that it does follow, last upload)
> - a link to the personnal bug page
> - any other information that may be suitable for such a page like
>   the latest news that must be read by Debian developers (think
>   about debian-devel-announce)
> 
> With this system, each developer can add his own page on one of his
> bookmark and from time to time he can check what he's responsible for and
> what he should do in one look. And anyone can check the page of any
> developer before doing a NMU, he would be able to see the NMU policy, the
> time when the maintainer was last seen in Debian and so on ... it's also a
> good way to evaluate the quality of the work one is doing for Debian.
> 
> I may be volunteering to work (one day) on something like that but I fear
> that i'll run into problems since I need to get information from various
> sources (ldap, bts, packages). Any idea/comment acepted.

Cheers,
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Idea: Debian Developer Information Center

2000-03-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi dear co-developers,

we're so many developers that's it's getting difficult to know us each
other and even more difficult to know our respective habits concerning the
way we're doing our Debian job.

I think that we need a page (possibly a cgi or a page automatically updated
once a day) that would give the maximum of information concerning one
maintainer. This would include :
- information from the LDAP db (name, email, last seen on ...)
- information about the NMU policy that the maintainer has adopted
  (timeframe before a NMU is allowed, do i need an authorization to do a
  nmu ?, ...)
- the list of packages he's maintaining (yes some maintainer forget
  that they're maintaining some packages) with up-to-date statistics for
  each package (number of important/normal/wishlist bugs,
  standards-version that it does follow, last upload)
- a link to the personnal bug page
- any other information that may be suitable for such a page like
  the latest news that must be read by Debian developers (think
  about debian-devel-announce)

With this system, each developer can add his own page on one of his
bookmark and from time to time he can check what he's responsible for and
what he should do in one look. And anyone can check the page of any
developer before doing a NMU, he would be able to see the NMU policy, the
time when the maintainer was last seen in Debian and so on ... it's also a
good way to evaluate the quality of the work one is doing for Debian.

I may be volunteering to work (one day) on something like that but I fear
that i'll run into problems since I need to get information from various
sources (ldap, bts, packages). Any idea/comment acepted.

Cheers,
-- 
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