Re: Office Suite for Debian Linux

2000-08-17 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 16 Aug 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

 Sam Sim wrote:
 
  Dear Debian Linux,
  
  I am familiar with you operating system and wanted to contact you. 
 
 Wow.  How familiar can he be?

Yeah, just what I was thinking.

  we will be in your area towards the end of September.
I would like briefly stop by your offices

I wonder how he's going to be in dozens of countries across the world
towards the end of September :-)   This is so clearly a standard ploy
to attract business; if someone responds, he goes to where ever the
offices happen to be.  Should this be considered spam? As far as I'm
concerned, it's unsollicited commercial email, thus spam.


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Re: Office Suite for Debian Linux

2000-08-17 Thread Mike Markley
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 09:07:09AM +0200, Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
spake forth:
 I wonder how he's going to be in dozens of countries across the world
 towards the end of September :-)   This is so clearly a standard ploy
 to attract business; if someone responds, he goes to where ever the
 offices happen to be.  Should this be considered spam? As far as I'm
 concerned, it's unsollicited commercial email, thus spam.

Perhaps. Or perhaps, as the sender told me in an email after I explained
the distributed  non-commercial nature of Debian in a gentler way, he
simply thought our offices were in California. Wonder what could've led to
such a silly belief...
Registrant:
Software in the Public Interest, Inc. (DEBIAN6-DOM)
   PO Box 273
   Tracy, CA 95378-0273
   US

   Domain Name: DEBIAN.ORG

Hmm. :) I hate spam. I hate spammers. And I probably think that this
company's software is crap, and it probably has a standard closed EULA
clickthru-type license. But I think we may be jumping to conclusions about
this guy's intentions...

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Re: Office Suite for Debian Linux

2000-08-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello Sam,

Debian is an effort driven by volunteers. Our focus is free software,
although we also provide ftp space for non-free software which can be
distributed in debian format at no cost, if there is a volunteer to
maintain it for Debian.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 04:01:00PM -0700, Sam Sim wrote:
 I am familiar with you operating system and wanted to contact you.  I
 represent VirtualTek Corp. here in Seattle, WA., http://joydesk.com.  Our
 flagship product, Joydesk, is a web-based PIM application (email, calendar,
 address book, message board and task list), designed specifically for Linux
 platform.

I visited your web site and could not find out any information regarding the
license under which you distribute joydesk. Debian, as a volunteer effort
driven by a community, does not promise to ship any software package, but if
there is a volunteer to package it for Debian, and it is free software,
nobody will prevent its inclusion into Debian. Our definition of free is
strong, and can be found at

http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

We request the source code and everyones right to modify and distribute modified
versions as source code and binaries. Even if you have no free license for
your software, a volunteer might want to package it for the non-free area of
the ftp archive, but less likely so. Note that in any case non-free software
can not be part of the Debian GNU/Linux distribution, and there must not be
a royalty for a copy of your software.

 When available, I would like to
 contact you, as we will be in your area towards the end of September.

Debian is spread all over the world, and there is no authority you can
contact about this matter. There are no offices. The best way to make sure
your software gets included into Debian is 1. Give it a free software license,
2. Have some employee join Debian and package your software for Debian.

The second step might not be necessary if your software is interesting
enough for a volunteer who already is or wants to become a Debian maintainer
to package it for you.

I hope this email sheds some light on the issue you are facing. The free
software community is not organized like a company, and Debian is a
non-commercial volunteer effort right at the heart of the movement.
Please understand that we can not accommodate ourselve to your corporate
needs, but we will be happy to not stand in your way if you want to
contribute to our efforts.

Thank you,
Marcus

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Re: Office Suite for Debian Linux

2000-08-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Sam Sim wrote:

 Dear Debian Linux,
 
 I am familiar with you operating system and wanted to contact you. 

Wow.  How familiar can he be?

 we will be in your area towards the end of September.

   I would like briefly stop by your offices