Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[أحمد المحمودي]

Hello,

  I cannot access this website using ELinks (which uses GNUTLS in Debian),
  unless I compile ELinks to use OpenSSL instead of GNUTLS. Can't this be fixed
  ?

The error that I get from elinks provided by Debian is:
Unable to retrieve https://tracker.debian.org/mlterm:
Resource temporarily unavailable
Retry without verification?

Selecting 'Yes', gives the same error again.

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Raphael Hertzog]

Hi,

On Wed, 09 Dec 2015, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> >> This would then give this for dpkg:
> >>
> >>  List-Id: 
> >>
> >> I can add this if it's actually useful. Anyone seconding Simon's request?
> 
> on behalf of all gmail users, yes please.

Done.

I did not add the keyword in the identifier because it does not makes
sense to me. The subscription is about a package and that's the level at
which you want to filter in a MUA.

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[James McCoy]

On Dec 9, 2015 8:44 AM, "Raphael Hertzog"  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 09 Dec 2015, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> > How about adding a List-Id header (RFC 2919) there?  MUAs may have
> > better user interfaces for splitting on List-Id's than other headers.
> > Just an idea.
>
> And we would use package name + service name as identifier?
>
> This would then give this for dpkg:
>
>   List-Id: 

You might want to reference the existing List-Id that the PTS uses, for
inspiration.

https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/qa/trunk/pts/bin/dispatch.pl?r1=3166&r2=3165&pathrev=3166

> I can add this if it's actually useful. Anyone seconding Simon's request?

I would second this.

Cheers,
James

Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Dimitri John Ledkov]

On 9 December 2015 at 13:58, Jakub Wilk  wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog , 2015-12-09, 14:43:
>>>
>>> How about adding a List-Id header (RFC 2919) there?  MUAs may have better
>>> user interfaces for splitting on List-Id's than other headers. Just an idea.
>>
>>
>> And we would use package name + service name as identifier?
>>
>> This would then give this for dpkg:
>>
>>  List-Id: 
>>
>> I can add this if it's actually useful. Anyone seconding Simon's request?
>

on behalf of all gmail users, yes please.

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Jakub Wilk]

* Raphael Hertzog , 2015-12-09, 14:43:
How about adding a List-Id header (RFC 2919) there?  MUAs may have 
better user interfaces for splitting on List-Id's than other headers. 
Just an idea.


And we would use package name + service name as identifier?

This would then give this for dpkg:

 List-Id: 

I can add this if it's actually useful. Anyone seconding Simon's request?


Seconded.

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Paul Wise]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

>   List-Id: 

Hmm, I would have thought to include keywords also:

List-Id: 

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Raphael Hertzog]

On Wed, 09 Dec 2015, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> How about adding a List-Id header (RFC 2919) there?  MUAs may have
> better user interfaces for splitting on List-Id's than other headers.
> Just an idea.

And we would use package name + service name as identifier?

This would then give this for dpkg:

  List-Id: 

I can add this if it's actually useful. Anyone seconding Simon's request?
Because I don't know of any MUA having special support for that header.

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Raphael Hertzog]

Hi,

On Wed, 09 Dec 2015, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I was just wondering: would it be now possible to use
> @packages.debian.org as contact address (Maintainer field) for a
> Debian package, or is it still impossible because of forward loops ?

Right now, it's still not a good idea but it should not require too many
changes to make it possible AFAIK:
1/ fixing packages.debian.org to ignore such addresses when extracting
   maintainers addresses (and in those cases forward mails only to the
   package tracker)
2/ fixing the BTS to use f...@packages.debian.org instead of sending a direct
   mail to the maintainer + a copy to the package tracker.

Simon, Rhonda, would it be possible to implement (1) at the same time
when you update packages.debian.org to use the new addresse for the
forward to the package tracker ?

Same question for you Don, but with (2).

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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Simon Josefsson]

Raphael Hertzog  writes:

> For package subscribers
> ---
>
> In theory, as a package subscriber you have nothing to do, in practice,
> depending on your mail filtering rules, you might have to adjust them.
> Each forwarded mail now has headers like this:
>
> X-Loop: dispa...@tracker.debian.org
> X-Distro-Tracker-Package: dpkg
> X-Distro-Tracker-Keyword: vcs
> X-Debian-Package: dpkg
> X-Debian: tracker.debian.org
> List-Unsubscribe:
> 

How about adding a List-Id header (RFC 2919) there?  MUAs may have
better user interfaces for splitting on List-Id's than other headers.
Just an idea.

/Simon


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Re: tracker.debian.org replaces packages.qa.debian.org for email subscriptions

[Charles Plessy]

Le Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 12:18:21PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> 
> we're getting one step further in the deprecation of
> packages.qa.debian.org in favor of the new tracker.debian.org. We have
> just migrated all mail subscriptions from the old PTS to the new package
> tracker. This does impact many persons, please read further for details.
 
Hi Raphaël,

great work !

I was just wondering: would it be now possible to use
@packages.debian.org as contact address (Maintainer field) for a
Debian package, or is it still impossible because of forward loops ?

Bonne journée,

(Please Cc me; I am not subscribed to -devel currently.)

Charles

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