Realplayer
So Joey and Manoj are having a `friendly' discussing about the best way to implement an installer package for realplayer, I wondered how the other distributions do it. Now I have not bothered to look because I am to lazy, but my best guess is that RedHat includes a copy of the Realplayer code. They have talked to RealNetworks and sorted this all out, the version of RealPlayer that the current Debian installer uses is the rpm. So maybe we could do the same, ask for permission to include the code in a .deb in non-free on our mirror sites, and on non-free CDs. I know that this would mean that we would be going out of the way to support non-free software, but so is an installer. In September 1999 I sent an e-mail to RealNetworks asking them about this idea. When I got the following response in December 1999 I gave up: Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:57:06 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Realplayer for Debian GNU/Linux [#6430953] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Edward, Thanks for contacting RealNetworks Technical Support. Please note that RealPlayer G2 will be available on the following operating systems at some point in the future: Macintosh Irix SunOS Linux DEC Unix If you are interested in seeing the RealPlayer G2 ported to a different operating system than those listed, please send your plan, including the amount you or your organization is willing to pay RealNetworks for this development, via post to the following: RealNetworks, Inc. 3rd Ave. Suite 2900 Seattle, WA 98101 Attn: Dave Hardwick, Technical Support Manager ** There is an ALPHA version of G2 available on our Developer site for testing only. There is no technical suppport available for this product, but you can submit a bug or issue a report at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where are the devleopers hang out and answer questions.). Until the product is more stable and signed off by every department, it will not be supported technically from the department I reside in. Thanks for your interest in the RealPlayer. Wish you Merry Christmas!! Thank you. Thirumalesh.M Aditi Corporation RealNetworks Authorized Support Provider. -- Don't worry -- shop.
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
I checked and REALPLAYER_HOME was set to the G2 directory (from an old manual installation). I changed it to /usr/lib/RealPlayer7 and realplayer started working. Then I deleted REALPLAYER_HOME environmental variable altogether and it still worked. This would indicate that it isn't required, but if it exists, it must point to the correct location. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 04:38:46AM -0600, David Webb wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 01:36:49AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > David Webb wrote: > >> I had the same problem. Installing libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 fixed it on my > >> system. > > > > I cannot reproduce this. Works fine for me without that library installed. > > > >> You also have to make sure the REALPLAYER_HOME environment > >> variable is set correctly. > > > > Nor can I reproduce this. > > I've played around with my system some more. Here's what I tried: > > 1. Removed libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 - realplayer kept working > 2. Changed REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer stopped working > 3. Corrected REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer started working again > 4. Unset REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer kept working > > In short, REALPLAYER_HOME was the sole cause on my system and unsetting > it completely seems to be the best fix. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 01:36:49AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > David Webb wrote: >> I had the same problem. Installing libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 fixed it on my >> system. > > I cannot reproduce this. Works fine for me without that library installed. > >> You also have to make sure the REALPLAYER_HOME environment >> variable is set correctly. > > Nor can I reproduce this. I've played around with my system some more. Here's what I tried: 1. Removed libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 - realplayer kept working 2. Changed REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer stopped working 3. Corrected REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer started working again 4. Unset REALPLAYER_HOME - realplayer kept working In short, REALPLAYER_HOME was the sole cause on my system and unsetting it completely seems to be the best fix. - Dave -- +--+---+ | David Webb | The believer is happy; the doubter is wise. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Hungarian Proverb | +--+---+
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
David Webb wrote: > I had the same problem. Installing libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 fixed it on my > system. I cannot reproduce this. Works fine for me without that library installed. > You also have to make sure the REALPLAYER_HOME environment > variable is set correctly. Nor can I reproduce this. -- see shy jo
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:26:17PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: > I tried the woody installer on a potato system. It installed > realplayer, but it doesn't seem to work. No messages or core > dump--nothing happens. I also tried installing the tarball and > installing the .deb created by running alien on the .rpm, with the same > results, so it would appear that the installer is not the problem. I had the same problem. Installing libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 fixed it on my system. You also have to make sure the REALPLAYER_HOME environment variable is set correctly. - Dave -- +--+---+ | David Webb | The believer is happy; the doubter is wise. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Hungarian Proverb | +--+---+
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato. > > The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink > to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the > installer in slink, is going to find that the old realplayer they have > installed realplayer no longer works. Library incompatabilities of some > kind cause it to crash. I see an empty package which uninstalls the previous version with a Cool, Blue debconf dialog: "Hey, blame Real!" here. Of course, a preinstallation dialog like "This crap is unsupported by Debian now. If you want it, paste this url on your wget.\nOr you can keep it and play with the funny segfaults." Is this ok? -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Using Debian GNU/Linux http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpwjz32blXxA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 01:00:59AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato. > > > > The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink > > to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the > > installer in slink, is going to find that the old realplayer they have > > installed realplayer no longer works. Library incompatabilities of some > > kind cause it to crash. > > I would definitely put new realplayer installer package in potato. > At least this would be a big favor to our users. I tried the woody installer on a potato system. It installed realplayer, but it doesn't seem to work. No messages or core dump--nothing happens. I also tried installing the tarball and installing the .deb created by running alien on the .rpm, with the same results, so it would appear that the installer is not the problem. On the other hand, the old realplayer worked just fine for me in potato. Unfortunately there does not appear to be any way to get it back. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:09:31PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato.
>
> The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink
> to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the
> installer in slink, is going to find that the old realplayer they have
> installed realplayer no longer works. Library incompatabilities of some
> kind cause it to crash.
I would definitely put new realplayer installer package in potato.
At least this would be a big favor to our users.
Thanks,
Alex Y.
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Re: realplayer installer and frozen
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I agree with Branden: remove the installer from potato. The problem that I forgot to mention is that anyone who upgrades from slink to potato w/o upgrading realplayer, and had realplayer installed via the installer in slink, is going to find that the old realplayer they have installed realplayer no longer works. Library incompatabilities of some kind cause it to crash. -- see shy jo
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
Calm down man. The men in the white coats will be here soon. Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 05:47:41PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because > > Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from > > their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.) > > > > So the installer can't install anything. The package either needs to be > > pulled from potato, or the new package in woody that can handle realplayer > > 7.0 needs to be substituted in its place. The changes to the actual debian > > package were minor; the changes between real 6.x and 7.0 are anyone's > > guess and who knows what has broken. > > > > So, Dark, what should I do? > > Let's boycott the fuckers! Drop the package and swear to never support > Real until they discard their patents and free their software! > > G! P! L! > > G! P! L! > > CHAGE! > > -- > G. Branden Robinson|I just wanted to see what it looked like > Debian GNU/Linux |in a spotlight. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Jim Morrison > roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: realplayer installer and frozen
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 05:47:41PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because > Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from > their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.) > > So the installer can't install anything. The package either needs to be > pulled from potato, or the new package in woody that can handle realplayer > 7.0 needs to be substituted in its place. The changes to the actual debian > package were minor; the changes between real 6.x and 7.0 are anyone's > guess and who knows what has broken. > > So, Dark, what should I do? Let's boycott the fuckers! Drop the package and swear to never support Real until they discard their patents and free their software! G! P! L! G! P! L! CHAGE! -- G. Branden Robinson|I just wanted to see what it looked like Debian GNU/Linux |in a spotlight. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Jim Morrison roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpdyGC19dC46.pgp Description: PGP signature
realplayer installer and frozen
The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.) So the installer can't install anything. The package either needs to be pulled from potato, or the new package in woody that can handle realplayer 7.0 needs to be substituted in its place. The changes to the actual debian package were minor; the changes between real 6.x and 7.0 are anyone's guess and who knows what has broken. So, Dark, what should I do? -- see shy jo
who wants realplayer?
I'm tired of dealing with this installer package. -- see shy jo
