Re: Should Package Web page be changed for non-free (Re: glimpse on CD?)

1998-10-11 Thread James A. Treacy
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 02:47:20PM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> 
> Galbra>What I find strange if that I managed to download it without realising 
> it
> Galbra>was non-free.  I only *now* noticed that it's non-free by putting the
> Galbra>cursor on the `Download it!'  ftp link and seeing the non-free part in 
> the
> Galbra>path.
> 
>   I have built packages and uploaded them to main only to find later
> that they depend on non-free libraries that appeared free when I found
> them on the web page. (note that when the lib later shows up as a
> dependency, it is listed as non-free) .  
> 
The web pages will be updated using new scripts RSN. They are 95% done. All that
remains to be done is to properly deal with source packages. This is trivial
to get right for 90% of the packages, but a royal pain for the rest.

This problem and a number of others will be fixed with the new scripts.

Jay Treacy



Re: Should Package Web page be changed for non-free (Re: glimpse on CD?)

1998-10-05 Thread John Lapeyre
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

Galbra>What I find strange if that I managed to download it without realising it
Galbra>was non-free.  I only *now* noticed that it's non-free by putting the
Galbra>cursor on the `Download it!'  ftp link and seeing the non-free part in 
the
Galbra>path.

I have built packages and uploaded them to main only to find later
that they depend on non-free libraries that appeared free when I found
them on the web page. (note that when the lib later shows up as a
dependency, it is listed as non-free) .  

John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre



Should Package Web page be changed for non-free (Re: glimpse on CD?)

1998-10-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith

I was surprised that glimpse was not on my Debian CD, so I downloaded it
from the Debian web page.  Until [EMAIL PROTECTED] told me it was
non-free. 

What I find strange if that I managed to download it without realising it
was non-free.  I only *now* noticed that it's non-free by putting the
cursor on the `Download it!'  ftp link and seeing the non-free part in the
path.

Suggestions:

The Debian web page's package search path does not hint to that:

 http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/stable/utils/glimpse.html

Maybe there should be a non-free part of the path in there?

Maybe the displayed page background should be changed for contrib and
non-free packages to highlight that fact?

It's strange that a package dependence on a non-free package is very much
highlighted, but that the non-free package itself is not.  For example, look
at contrib package `latex2html'.  In bright red, we see that it depends 
on non-free giftrans.  However, click on giftrans and you'll see nowhere on
it's own page that it's non-free!

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