45 thin clients = slow squeeze
Last week our new Squeeze installation was tested. Server used was a 4x quad core server, 16GB RAM with 4 SAS disks Gigabit network to all clients Clients, Acer Veriton G480L with 2 GB ram 45 clients booted as thin clients. Booting takes several minutes. All users opening firefox, openoffice and a pdf file (okular). The result was a server load of 60. Closing the pdf files helped, but the clients was still slow. On some of the clients OpenOffice was "lagging" when typing. K-menu used 10-15 secs to respond -- --- Ole-Anders Andreassen Sunndal ungdomsskole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcc61b6.6030...@skolelinux.no
Speed - Lenny vs Squeeze
Hi! I have used Squeeze a week now, and there are a lot of things to like. But what I don't like, is that Squeeze seems to be slower. Booting is slower, logging in takes longer time, and starting programs also takes longer time. I am using the same server hardware on both installations, same network, same clients... Anyone with the same experience? -- --- Ole-Anders Andreassen Sunndal ungdomsskole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fbf552f.1090...@skolelinux.no
Re: Gnash != useless
On 21. mai 2012 08:41, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Alf Tonny Bätz] I have to agree with Ole Anders here! The gnash is 100% useless becouse it dont work on the pages students use daily. That the adobe flash player not work 100% i also agree on, but it work alot better then gnash. I sure hope neither you nor Ole Anders teach mathematics. Given that working Youtube is more than 0% useful, and gnash work with youtube, gnash can not be 100% useless. If working Youtube is 1% useful, gnash can at most be 99% useless. If you calculate this and reach 100%, I believe something most be wrong with the calculator. OK :) Gnash works with youtube, but is lagging as %¤##!!! The frame rate pr second must be around 2 :( Reading newspapers with flash-adds is impossible with gnash. The browser hangs, and the client becomes slow. I have to kill the gnash-processes before I can close the browser. When I have to do this, and wait. Aargh!! Gnash is wasting my time, and at that moment I would rate it to be more than 100% useless. -- --- Ole-Anders Andreassen Sunndal ungdomsskole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fbb407a.9000...@skolelinux.no
Re: Cannot print from diskless-workstations
Anyone who has succeeded printing from diskless workstations, and willing to share the recipe ? OleA On 18. mai 2012 15:09, o...@skolelinux.no wrote: Hi Ole, On Fr 18 Mai 2012 14:10:10 CEST wrote: Added Printer in Cups. When I boot the machine as a thinclient I can print, but not when booted as a diskless-workstation. I do not see the prinet. I can't find much info about adding printers in the squeeze-manual, other than using CUPS. I added the printer to NIS Netgroup printer-hosts, this didn't help. Any suggestions? put /etc/init.d/cups restart /etc/init.d/autofs restart into /etc/rc.local of the diskless workstation chroot on the LTSP server. Both services (autofs/CUPS) fail from time to time. It is a race condition issue between those services and network-manager (which sometimes is coming up with an IP address too late). Mike Hi! Tried this, but it didn't help. I edited /etc/rc.local using "LANG=C chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ vim /etc/rc.local" No printer on the diskless workstation, but I can print testpage from Cups and from thin-clients. OleA -- --- Ole-Anders Andreassen Sunndal ungdomsskole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb93d8a.2010...@skolelinux.no
Gnash = useless
Gnash seems to be 100% useless. - When it works, it is lagging badly - Newspapers with flash based adds is not possible to load. - Iceweasel hangs on most pages using flash until I kill Gnash from the command line. Installed flashplugin-nonfree, and now tings work :) Is this a normal experience ? -- --- Ole-Anders Andreassen Sunndal ungdomsskole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb93cde.8010...@skolelinux.no
Cannot enter home directory. Using /.
When trying to login on a diskless-workstation I got this message: "Cannot enter home directory. Using /." followed by "Kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check" I have added the client to workstation-hosts after running sitesummary2ldapdhcp -a -- --- Ole-Anders Andreassen Sunndal ungdomsskole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb62c0a.1080...@skolelinux.no
Re: Errors when updating chroot after install
On 18. mai 2012 10:07, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] I use chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 then run apt-get Right. Better to use ltsp-chroot. To avoid it, try to call chroot like this: TMP= TMPDIR= ltsp-chroot OK, I'll try this :) A better way might be to use su - to get the per user temp directories also in the chroot. Ie. ltsp-chroot su - I just tested this, and it worked fine as I suspected. Please update the wiki with this information if you believe it should be told to every admin of Skolelinux. :) KlausAde advised me to not enter the chroot, but instead use: LANG=C chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update LANG=C chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get upgrade This got rid of most of the errors , but not all. I still get this output when I run apt-get upgrade a 2nd time: --- root@tjener:~# LANG=C chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be upgraded: acpid nscd openoffice.org-emailmerge 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 105 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/1712 kB of archives. After this operation, 4096 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y dpkg-deb: failed to create temporary directory: No such file or directory Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges", line 237, in main() File "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges", line 102, in main pkg = DebianFiles.Package(deb) File "/usr/share/apt-listchanges/DebianFiles.py", line 133, in __init__ self.binary = pkgdata.Package AttributeError: ControlStanza instance has no attribute 'Package' Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) (Reading database ... 202931 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace acpid 1:2.0.7-1squeeze3 (using .../acpid_1%3a2.0.7-1squeeze4_i386.deb) ... Stopping ACPI services.../sbin/start-stop-daemon.real: nothing in /proc - not mounted? invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "stop" failed. dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... Stopping ACPI services.../sbin/start-stop-daemon.real: nothing in /proc - not mounted? invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "stop" failed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/acpid_1%3a2.0.7-1squeeze4_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 configured to not write apport reports Starting ACPI services.../sbin/start-stop-daemon.real: nothing in /proc - not mounted? invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed. dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/acpid_1%3a2.0.7-1squeeze4_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) root@tjener:~# --- OleA
Re: Errors when updating chroot after install
Den 17.05.12 11.49, skrev Petter Reinholdtsen: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] When running apt-get update and upgrade, I get a lot of errors: Are you using ltsp-chroot? I use chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 then run apt-get 2. E: Klarte ikke åpne fila /tmp/user/0/tzdata.template.53290 - open (2: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog) The messages about problems with /tmp/user/0/ is because TMPDIR and TMP is set to a per-user directory only valid outside the chroot (due to security and name space considerations). To avoid it, try to call chroot like this: TMP= TMPDIR= ltsp-chroot OK, I'll try this :) OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb50859.3040...@skolelinux.no
Errors when updating chroot after install
When running apt-get update and upgrade, I get a lot of errors: 1. AttributeError: ControlStanza instance has no attribute 'Package' 2. E: Klarte ikke åpne fila /tmp/user/0/tzdata.template.53290 - open (2: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog) 3. E: Kan ikke skrive til /tmp/user/0/tzdata.template.53290 - ofstream::ofstream (2: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog) 4. E: Klarte ikke åpne fila /tmp/user/0/tzdata.config.53291 - open (2: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog) 5. E: Kan ikke skrive til /tmp/user/0/tzdata.config.53291 - ofstream::ofstream (2: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog) 6. E: Prior errors apply to /var/cache/apt/archives/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8o-4squeeze12_i386.deb Klarte ikke åpne fila = Could not open the file Kan ikke skrive til = Could not write to http://pastebin.com/mqc4XkMn OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb4c713.1020...@skolelinux.no
Is there an easy way of banning all Destination addresses except one or two IP-addresses?
Is there an easy way of banning all Destination addresses except one or two IP-addresses? The only addresses students should be able to access is 217.18.207.181 and 217.18.207.182 on port 80 and 443 OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dbfc547.2090...@skolelinux.no
Re: Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network. How do I change proxy settings?
Hi I have discovered that if I use a proxy that is supposed to be abandoned, I can connect to WWW from the laptops. But how can I use this proxy on the diskless and thin clints, and for APT? It is not possible to change the proxysetting in the browser, the fields here are gray. OleA Ole-Anders Andreassen skrev: Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] One of the "really nice features" is that I can use WinXP from virtualbox on my linux laptop, and with the virtual WinXP I do not have problems accessing the Internet. Jan Roar has testet this from another school, and the same happens there... This seem to indicate that the problem is with the interaction between the TCP stack on Linux and the firewall in question. I tried to google for anything related, assuming the firewall is firewall-1, but found nothing that seemed relevant. Given that this problem do not seem to affect all Firewall-1 owners, I suspect the problem must be in the configuration at your site. I remember a similar problem affecting a school once, where the transparent HTTP proxy were unable to handle unix line endings in HTTP headers, and simply refused to let such normal Linux requests true. Could it be similar? This bug has been fixed in FW1 I think. Does the problem only affect port 80, or is it any port? Do you see the same problem with 'tcptraceroute www.skolelinux.org ssh', for example? HTTP and FTP is blocked. HTTPS works, SSH works... tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.skolelinux.org ssh Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 59463 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.skolelinux.org (158.36.191.137) on TCP port 22 (ssh), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 0.557 ms 0.462 ms 0.450 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.181 ms 0.922 ms 0.896 ms 3 10.202.63.1 5.764 ms 5.917 ms 5.803 ms 4 10.200.193.17 3.673 ms 3.776 ms 5.957 ms 5 85.221.22.129 4.070 ms 15.449 ms 8.336 ms 6 85.221.22.1 5.936 ms 12.141 ms 10.848 ms 7 195.204.200.102 5.765 ms 9.846 ms 5.973 ms 8 195.204.200.101 5.570 ms 14.812 ms 8.235 ms 9 195.204.183.16 24.311 ms 22.571 ms 17.326 ms 10 c10G-xe-4-3-0.br1.xa19.no.catchbone.net (193.75.9.21) 17.528 ms 15.719 ms 20.171 ms 11 te6-1-0.cr2.xa19.no.catchbone.net (193.75.1.49) 16.395 ms 16.949 ms 19.035 ms 12 te5-1-0.cr2.osls.no.catchbone.net (193.75.1.201) 18.246 ms 16.020 ms 17.180 ms 13 te4-1-0.br1.osls.no.catchbone.net (193.75.3.170) 15.788 ms 18.790 ms 15.875 ms 14 stolav-gw1.uninett.no (193.156.120.1) 18.410 ms 16.815 ms 23.202 ms 15 oslo-gw.uninett.no (128.39.255.85) 21.926 ms 39.066 ms 38.094 ms 16 uio-gw8.uio.no (128.39.65.18) 37.773 ms 25.601 ms 20.775 ms 17 mrom-gw2.uio.no (129.240.25.18) 25.925 ms 16.728 ms 17.318 ms 18 maintainer.skolelinux.no (158.36.191.137) [open] 19.139 ms 22.817 ms 25.255 ms tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.skolelinux.org Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 39021 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.skolelinux.org (158.36.191.137) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 0.600 ms 0.584 ms 0.463 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.815 ms 1.180 ms 2.829 ms 3 10.202.63.1 6.108 ms 9.127 ms 4.525 ms 4 10.200.193.17 5.414 ms 5.449 ms 5.234 ms 5 85.221.22.129 5.115 ms 5.433 ms 6.469 ms 6 maintainer.skolelinux.no (158.36.191.137) [open] 6.783 ms 7.073 ms 5.773 ms tjener:~# OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d7e0b5d.9060...@skolelinux.no
Re: Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network.
Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] One of the "really nice features" is that I can use WinXP from virtualbox on my linux laptop, and with the virtual WinXP I do not have problems accessing the Internet. Jan Roar has testet this from another school, and the same happens there... This seem to indicate that the problem is with the interaction between the TCP stack on Linux and the firewall in question. I tried to google for anything related, assuming the firewall is firewall-1, but found nothing that seemed relevant. Given that this problem do not seem to affect all Firewall-1 owners, I suspect the problem must be in the configuration at your site. I remember a similar problem affecting a school once, where the transparent HTTP proxy were unable to handle unix line endings in HTTP headers, and simply refused to let such normal Linux requests true. Could it be similar? This bug has been fixed in FW1 I think. Does the problem only affect port 80, or is it any port? Do you see the same problem with 'tcptraceroute www.skolelinux.org ssh', for example? HTTP and FTP is blocked. HTTPS works, SSH works... tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.skolelinux.org ssh Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 59463 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.skolelinux.org (158.36.191.137) on TCP port 22 (ssh), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 0.557 ms 0.462 ms 0.450 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.181 ms 0.922 ms 0.896 ms 3 10.202.63.1 5.764 ms 5.917 ms 5.803 ms 4 10.200.193.17 3.673 ms 3.776 ms 5.957 ms 5 85.221.22.129 4.070 ms 15.449 ms 8.336 ms 6 85.221.22.1 5.936 ms 12.141 ms 10.848 ms 7 195.204.200.102 5.765 ms 9.846 ms 5.973 ms 8 195.204.200.101 5.570 ms 14.812 ms 8.235 ms 9 195.204.183.16 24.311 ms 22.571 ms 17.326 ms 10 c10G-xe-4-3-0.br1.xa19.no.catchbone.net (193.75.9.21) 17.528 ms 15.719 ms 20.171 ms 11 te6-1-0.cr2.xa19.no.catchbone.net (193.75.1.49) 16.395 ms 16.949 ms 19.035 ms 12 te5-1-0.cr2.osls.no.catchbone.net (193.75.1.201) 18.246 ms 16.020 ms 17.180 ms 13 te4-1-0.br1.osls.no.catchbone.net (193.75.3.170) 15.788 ms 18.790 ms 15.875 ms 14 stolav-gw1.uninett.no (193.156.120.1) 18.410 ms 16.815 ms 23.202 ms 15 oslo-gw.uninett.no (128.39.255.85) 21.926 ms 39.066 ms 38.094 ms 16 uio-gw8.uio.no (128.39.65.18) 37.773 ms 25.601 ms 20.775 ms 17 mrom-gw2.uio.no (129.240.25.18) 25.925 ms 16.728 ms 17.318 ms 18 maintainer.skolelinux.no (158.36.191.137) [open] 19.139 ms 22.817 ms 25.255 ms tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.skolelinux.org Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 39021 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.skolelinux.org (158.36.191.137) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 0.600 ms 0.584 ms 0.463 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.815 ms 1.180 ms 2.829 ms 3 10.202.63.1 6.108 ms 9.127 ms 4.525 ms 4 10.200.193.17 5.414 ms 5.449 ms 5.234 ms 5 85.221.22.129 5.115 ms 5.433 ms 6.469 ms 6 maintainer.skolelinux.no (158.36.191.137) [open] 6.783 ms 7.073 ms 5.773 ms tjener:~# OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d79e913.9040...@skolelinux.no
Re: Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network.
One of the "really nice features" is that I can use WinXP from virtualbox on my linux laptop, and with the virtual WinXP I do not have problems accessing the Internet. Jan Roar has testet this from another school, and the same happens there... OleA Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.vg.no Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 52967 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 9.061 ms 0.461 ms 0.512 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.235 ms 1.036 ms 0.978 ms 3 10.202.63.1 3.894 ms 10.220 ms 3.858 ms 4 10.200.193.17 3.790 ms 3.795 ms 4.070 ms 5 85.221.22.129 4.657 ms 23.638 ms 17.696 ms 6 www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) [open] 19.536 ms 11.242 ms 10.339 ms tjener:~# traceroute www.vg.no traceroute to www.vg.no (195.88.54.16), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 gateway.intern (10.0.2.1) 0.520 ms 0.808 ms 1.486 ms 2 10.63.152.1 (10.63.152.1) 5.345 ms 5.431 ms 5.521 ms 3 10.202.63.1 (10.202.63.1) 12.244 ms 12.591 ms 12.795 ms 4 10.200.193.17 (10.200.193.17) 13.129 ms 13.338 ms 14.487 ms 5 85.221.22.129 (85.221.22.129) 13.610 ms 13.971 ms 14.207 ms 6 85.221.22.1 (85.221.22.1) 13.799 ms 18.911 ms 19.102 ms When we compare these two, I see the most likely candidate for the source of this problem. The router with IP address 85.221.22.1 would be my prime suspect for this blocking. It could also be a transparent proxy placed one network hop away from this router. The firewall log at the town hall shows a lot of messages about "TCP packet out of state" Broken firewall? Happy hacking, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d79d93f.1070...@skolelinux.no
Re: Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network.
Den 09.03.11 17.01, skrev Klaus Ade Johnstad: Onsdag 9. mars 2011 14.44.32 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen : I do not understand the part "The Non-TCP, RFC compilant software fails..." OleA Could you give us the link also? https://supportcenter.checkpoint.com/supportcenter/portal?eventSubmit_doGoviewsolutiondetails=&solutionid=sk31382 Dropping of out of state packages is now disabled on the firewall at the town hall, but nothing new has happened. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d77a7ef.3000...@skolelinux.no
Re: Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network.
The theories presented by the folks at UMOEikt is that there could be something wrong with MTU size. - I have tested with different MTU size using 'ifconfig eth1 mtu number', but nothing changes. Another theory is that NAT is causing problems, and that I would have to change IPs in our SLX-net. - If this was the case, I shold be able to access WWW from a laptop running linux at the town hall. This is not the case. And opposite, a laptop running Windows should not be able to access WWW from inside our SLX-net, but it can... When I search for "TCP out of state" + Checkpoint I find this: SYMPTOMS TCP traffic is beeing dropped, and SmartView Tracker shows the errer: "TCP packet out of state" CAUSE The Non-TCP, RFC compilant software fails to communicate properly trough the security gateway. Then a HowTo for turning of this follows... I do not understand the part "The Non-TCP, RFC compilant software fails..." OleA Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.vg.no Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 52967 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 9.061 ms 0.461 ms 0.512 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.235 ms 1.036 ms 0.978 ms 3 10.202.63.1 3.894 ms 10.220 ms 3.858 ms 4 10.200.193.17 3.790 ms 3.795 ms 4.070 ms 5 85.221.22.129 4.657 ms 23.638 ms 17.696 ms 6 www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) [open] 19.536 ms 11.242 ms 10.339 ms tjener:~# traceroute www.vg.no traceroute to www.vg.no (195.88.54.16), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 gateway.intern (10.0.2.1) 0.520 ms 0.808 ms 1.486 ms 2 10.63.152.1 (10.63.152.1) 5.345 ms 5.431 ms 5.521 ms 3 10.202.63.1 (10.202.63.1) 12.244 ms 12.591 ms 12.795 ms 4 10.200.193.17 (10.200.193.17) 13.129 ms 13.338 ms 14.487 ms 5 85.221.22.129 (85.221.22.129) 13.610 ms 13.971 ms 14.207 ms 6 85.221.22.1 (85.221.22.1) 13.799 ms 18.911 ms 19.102 ms When we compare these two, I see the most likely candidate for the source of this problem. The router with IP address 85.221.22.1 would be my prime suspect for this blocking. It could also be a transparent proxy placed one network hop away from this router. The firewall log at the town hall shows a lot of messages about "TCP packet out of state" Broken firewall? Happy hacking, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d778440.1060...@skolelinux.no
Re: Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network.
Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] What kind of things should I test to document, or find the problems? So far I have just used MTR to document slow respons, wget --no-proxy to document that www hangs and ends time out, ifconfig to show NiC settings, and route... Comparing tcptraceroute and traceroute might be useful. A tcpdump of a hanging session might be useful too. What you describe sound slighly similar to the problem we experienced at a gathering, where some transparent firewall (Firewall 1, if I do not remember incorrectly), were unable to parse HTTP headers with unix line endings and simply refused to handle such HTTP connections. Happy hacking, tjener:~# tcptraceroute www.vg.no Selected device eth0, address 10.0.2.2, port 52967 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max 1 10.0.2.1 9.061 ms 0.461 ms 0.512 ms 2 10.63.152.1 1.235 ms 1.036 ms 0.978 ms 3 10.202.63.1 3.894 ms 10.220 ms 3.858 ms 4 10.200.193.17 3.790 ms 3.795 ms 4.070 ms 5 85.221.22.129 4.657 ms 23.638 ms 17.696 ms 6 www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) [open] 19.536 ms 11.242 ms 10.339 ms tjener:~# traceroute www.vg.no traceroute to www.vg.no (195.88.54.16), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 gateway.intern (10.0.2.1) 0.520 ms 0.808 ms 1.486 ms 2 10.63.152.1 (10.63.152.1) 5.345 ms 5.431 ms 5.521 ms 3 10.202.63.1 (10.202.63.1) 12.244 ms 12.591 ms 12.795 ms 4 10.200.193.17 (10.200.193.17) 13.129 ms 13.338 ms 14.487 ms 5 85.221.22.129 (85.221.22.129) 13.610 ms 13.971 ms 14.207 ms 6 85.221.22.1 (85.221.22.1) 13.799 ms 18.911 ms 19.102 ms 7 195.204.200.102 (195.204.200.102) 19.249 ms 15.599 ms 10.038 ms 8 195.204.200.101 (195.204.200.101) 10.188 ms 10.290 ms 10.362 ms 9 195.204.183.16 (195.204.183.16) 21.753 ms * 22.218 ms 10 c10G-xe-4-3-0.br1.xa19.no.catchbone.net (193.75.9.21) 21.998 ms * 22.076 ms 11 * te7-1-0.cr1.xa19.no.catchbone.net (193.75.1.73) 22.289 ms 22.600 ms 12 te7-1-0.cr1.fn3.no.catchbone.net (193.75.3.150) 22.705 ms 22.799 ms 22.868 ms 13 193.75.3.254 (193.75.3.254) 33.824 ms 30.865 ms 18.254 ms 14 xe-1-3-0.cr3.hmg9.no.linpro.net (193.156.90.81) 18.547 ms 18.629 ms 20.115 ms 15 vlan62.sw0.hmg9.no.linpro.net (87.238.32.19) 21.481 ms * 21.754 ms 16 www.vg.no (195.88.54.16) 21.271 ms 21.833 ms 21.916 ms tjener:~# The firewall log at the town hall shows a lot of messages about "TCP packet out of state" Wireshark tells me that the second stage [SYN-ACK] of 3-way-handshake never happens. The realy strange thing is that this only affects PC's with Linux OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d7766e2.6030...@skolelinux.no
mounting FreeNAS in DebianEdu?
I have a box with FreeNAS, and here I have enabled SMB and NFS. Is it possible to mount this in DebianEDU in some way? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d762ab9.1010...@skolelinux.no
Linux-PC blocked/filtered in the network. (Was: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny)
Today I have tested the network at several schools, and at the town hall. It is not possible to surf on www on any of these networks using a PC running Linux. My conclusion is that there has to be some kind of filtering of traffic that exclude PC's running Linux. From the same PC I can send and receive email, I can ping and trace (mtr) addresses on www, and I can view webpages that are on servers on the inside of the filtering-gateway. By doing these test I have demonstrated that SLX is not the problem. I have also demonstrated for the admins at the town hall that using Linux-PC on a "clean" network, surfing is no problem. Tomorrow I'm going to visit the network-admins at Atea, so that they could see what happens when a PC running Linux tries to access www. What kind of things should I test to document, or find the problems? So far I have just used MTR to document slow respons, wget --no-proxy to document that www hangs and ends time out, ifconfig to show NiC settings, and route... OleA PS: UmoeIKT is the same company that refused to turn on IMAP on the exchange servers, resulting in 3 week without mail at our school. All the other schools had to upgrade Outlook in order to connect to the new exchange-server with MS MAPI settings. Den 17.02.11 19.32, skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen: Ok, I have tried to talk to the folks at Atea, but they tells me that this is a Linux problem. ( Atea is the leading Nordic and Baltic supplier of IT infrastructure with approximately 5,400 employees) When we moved in to the new school one year ago we had the same problems, the solution was to route our school on the outside of the "gateway-security-filter". But after an "upgrade" we are forced back, and have to use the same gateway as all the other schools in the region. Diskless Clients can surf on the Internet, but it is slow. The server can surf on the Internet. Laptops using Ubuntu linux on 10.0.2-network can't surf on the internet. Ubuntu PC's can ping adresses on the outside of the filtering-gateway, and skolelinux.org resolves to 158.36.191.137 It is almost not possible to update Ubuntu PCs It is not possible to update SLX servers, apt hangs on "waiting for headers" At school we have 3 different networks. One for the pupils, one for administration and theachers, and one for art/music-school. On the two first networks I run slx-servers. The third network is administrated by the admin-staff at the town hall. When i try an Ubuntu PC at this network the same thing happens. I can ping and trace skolelinux.org, and it resolves to 158.36.191.137. But I can't surf the web, and I can't install or update software because of timeout. All PC's and clients can with no problems view webpages that are on servers on the inside of the filtering-gateway. E.g Sunndal.kommune.no - www.tingvoll.kommune.no, www.kristiansund.kommune.no and so on... I've tried to use rsync to get the latest DVD, but it is not possible. SSH is also blocked, so I can't use SSH to user.skolinux.no, and I can't update the schools webpage using scp This is so fun... OleA Den 17.02.11 14.30, skrev Klaus Ade Johnstad: Torsdag 17. februar 2011 13.01.17 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen : Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting on the outside of our network, and I have been told that everything should be transparent. OleA Right, honestly, I think you should have a talk with those that changed something on the outside of your network, as the cahnage and your problem seems to coincide.
Re: Turnig of squid
For the users it is not possible to turn of proxy in Iceweasel, all fields are grayed out. OleA Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev: Fredag 18. februar 2011 11.57.01 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen : What happens if I stops Squid, other than no webpages are cached? OleA Tell the browser to not use proxy, but connect directly to internet. You do that either in the preferences as a user, or system-wide through a file somewhere in /etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5e6f91.8010...@skolelinux.no
Turnig of squid
What happens if I stops Squid, other than no webpages are cached? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5e507d.70...@sunndal.kommune.no
Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny
Is it possible to deactivate the use of Squid-proxy in iceweasel or chrome that run on diskless clients? OlaA Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev: Torsdag 17. februar 2011 13.01.17 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen : Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting on the outside of our network, and I have been told that everything should be transparent. OleA Right, honestly, I think you should have a talk with those that changed something on the outside of your network, as the cahnage and your problem seems to coincide. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5e43ca.5070...@skolelinux.no
Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny
Ok, I have tried to talk to the folks at Atea, but they tells me that this is a Linux problem. ( Atea is the leading Nordic and Baltic supplier of IT infrastructure with approximately 5,400 employees) When we moved in to the new school one year ago we had the same problems, the solution was to route our school on the outside of the "gateway-security-filter". But after an "upgrade" we are forced back, and have to use the same gateway as all the other schools in the region. Diskless Clients can surf on the Internet, but it is slow. The server can surf on the Internet. Laptops using Ubuntu linux on 10.0.2-network can't surf on the internet. Ubuntu PC's can ping adresses on the outside of the filtering-gateway, and skolelinux.org resolves to 158.36.191.137 It is almost not possible to update Ubuntu PCs It is not possible to update SLX servers, apt hangs on "waiting for headers" At school we have 3 different networks. One for the pupils, one for administration and theachers, and one for art/music-school. On the two first networks I run slx-servers. The third network is administrated by the admin-staff at the town hall. When i try an Ubuntu PC at this network the same thing happens. I can ping and trace skolelinux.org, and it resolves to 158.36.191.137. But I can't surf the web, and I can't install or update software because of timeout. All PC's and clients can with no problems view webpages that are on servers on the inside of the filtering-gateway. E.g Sunndal.kommune.no - www.tingvoll.kommune.no, www.kristiansund.kommune.no and so on... I've tried to use rsync to get the latest DVD, but it is not possible. SSH is also blocked, so I can't use SSH to user.skolinux.no, and I can't update the schools webpage using scp This is so fun... OleA Den 17.02.11 14.30, skrev Klaus Ade Johnstad: Torsdag 17. februar 2011 13.01.17 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen : Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting on the outside of our network, and I have been told that everything should be transparent. OleA Right, honestly, I think you should have a talk with those that changed something on the outside of your network, as the cahnage and your problem seems to coincide.
Re: DVD works again: please test, report and contribute to debian-edu-squeeze
rsync is not possible trough the regional gateway-filter-firewall-thing. How can I run rsync troung a tunnel? You can rsync your DVD with: rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::cd-squeeze-test-dvd/debian-edu-amd64-i386-DVD-1.iso debian-edu-DVD-1-squeeze.iso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5d12e5.8060...@skolelinux.no
Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny
Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev: Torsdag 17. februar 2011 12.17.42 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen: IPCop, and it is my FW :) All the machines are on the same network. 10.0.2.xx and 10.0.3xx OleA This is a PITA trying to resolve without direct access to such a network. But, did "something" happen before this stopped working? Was something changed? I guess it at one pint it did work? Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting on the outside of our network, and I have been told that everything should be transparent. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5d0e0d.8000...@skolelinux.no
Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny
Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev: Torsdag 17. februar 2011 11.39.23 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen : For some strange reason guest-PC running Linux are no longer able to access the Internet. PCs with Windows seems to run ok, and Mac's as well. All these machines are on the same network I guess? And what kind of firewall is this? Is it under your controll? IPCop, and it is my FW :) All the machines are on the same network. 10.0.2.xx and 10.0.3xx OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5d03d6.7070...@skolelinux.no
Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny
For some strange reason guest-PC running Linux are no longer able to access the Internet. PCs with Windows seems to run ok, and Mac's as well. Another strange thing is that from a diskless klient or the server, I can't access the firewall web interface. Squid is stopping me. But from a "guest PC" I can access the firewall web interface. In short: Diskless (and server) can access internet, but not firewall webgui Laptops with ubuntu can't access internet, but can access firewall webgui OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5cfadb.2030...@skolelinux.no
Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny
Where can I easiest find the DNS settings used in Lenny? Are there any short-cuts to show info about the network-setup, IP-ranges, netmask, routing, DNS and so on? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5c58e0.20...@skolelinux.no
Short about Iceweasel problems
Iceweasel sometimes make the diskless client to freeze, and rebooting the client is the only option. For some users history, bookmarks and navigation buttons stops working. Sometimes it just terminates... .parentlock is ¤%#&!!! annoying Uses LONG time to start some pages with video/flash, while Opera starts the same video/flash in no time. (Opera is using the same plugins as Iceweasel) OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8ced88.8070...@skolelinux.no
Opera on desktop for all users
How do I put an icon to start Opera on all the users desktop? Iceweasel is making a lot of problems.. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8cdd78.5010...@skolelinux.no
Re: Mounted Win2003 share shows up on thin clients, but not diskless workstations.
Den 20.02.10 11.42, skrev Petter Reinholdtsen: When using diskless workstations the folder is empty. The processes for diskless workstations are not running on tjener.intern, and thus the user do not see this mount point. What can I do to fix this? Either by adding setup to mount the share on every diskless workstation when they mount, or by setting up the login process (using f.eks. pam-mount or pam-python) to mount the shared area in the users home directory when a user log in. I guess it also would be possible to use user specific views on the mounted directories to allow all users to mount their version of the mount point on the same directory, but suspect that is more effort than it is worth. This is a network for teachers, and all should have access to the same share. So I guess adding setup to mount the share on every diskless workstation when they mount, is the way to do it. But here I need some guidance and hints. I guess this something that should be put in our manual. Where should I put it? OleA
Mounted Win2003 share shows up on thin clients, but not diskless workstations.
I used this to mount the share: mount -t cifs //10.63.150.254/Felles /skole/tjener/home0/I_Felles -v -o user=olea,pass=Password,gid=teachers,domain=ORKIDENETT Using ssh to tjener as normal user, I'm able to find the files inside the share. So it is mounted. When using thin client it is possible to read the content of the share, open files to edit, and save new files. When using diskless workstations the folder is empty. What can I do to fix this? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b7fb57f.3070...@skolelinux.no
Re: Need help with samba
Able to mount the share using this: mount -t cifs //10.63.150.254/Felles /mnt/Felles_I -v -o user=USERNAME,pass=PASSWORD,domain=ORKIDENETT On the server I now can view the files. But how do I mount this share permanently, and how do I make the folder accessible for teachers? OleA Ole-Anders Andreassen skrev: Can I do this in fstab, if so, what would it look like there? Would all users be able to access the share? How do I define group peremissions if this is needed? Philipp Huebner skrev: Hi, On 19.02.2010 09:31, Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote: But how do I mount the share [Felles] as a folder? `man mount.cifs` `mount -t cifs` does the same as `mount.cifs`. All you need is the package "smbfs". Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b7e81f1.4010...@skolelinux.no
Re: Need help with samba
Can I do this in fstab, if so, what would it look like there? Would all users be able to access the share? How do I define group peremissions if this is needed? Philipp Huebner skrev: Hi, On 19.02.2010 09:31, Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote: But how do I mount the share [Felles] as a folder? `man mount.cifs` `mount -t cifs` does the same as `mount.cifs`. All you need is the package "smbfs". Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b7e6de2.5010...@skolelinux.no
Re: Need help with samba
Hi again! smbclient -U my-username -W NAME_OF_WORKGROUP -L 10.63.150.254 ..is bringning me some steps forward. I now see the names of all the shares on the win2003 server, printers, and so on But how do I mount the share [Felles] as a folder? OleA Ole-Anders Andreassen skrev: Hi! The teachers at my school need to have to access a share [felles] on a win2003 server at the town hall. I want to mount this share as a folder, so that the teachers using skolelinux don't need to log on. (if possible) From Mac inside our network this is no problem, just typing smb://10.63.150.254/felles in the file manager. The same with Ubuntu laptops. The network look like this: HOST: tjener.intern 1. gateway.intern 2. 10.63.152.1 3. 10.63.1.2 4. 10.63.150.254 From Konqueror it is not possible to use smb:// like I did on Mac and Ubuntu. The logon dialog box is popping up, but typing username and password does not work. The logon box jut pop up again, empty... smbclient tells me this when run at tjener. tjener:~# smbclient -N -L 10.63.150.254 Anonymous login successful Domain=[ORKIDENETT] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] Sharename Type Comment - --- cli_rpc_pipe_open: cli_nt_create failed on pipe \srvsvc to machine 10.63.150.254. Error was NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED session request to 10.63.150.254 failed (Called name not present) session request to 10 failed (Called name not present) Anonymous login successful Domain=[ORKIDENETT] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] Server Comment ---- 3LDAE003 63ABLO01 ... ... ... ... 63LSADM0163LSADM01 63MORHEG 63PDBI075 WorkgroupMaster ---- ELEVSUNNDAL 63ADOO05 ORKIDENETT 63LSADM01 tjener:~# OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b7e4c5c.9070...@skolelinux.no
Need help with samba
Hi! The teachers at my school need to have to access a share [felles] on a win2003 server at the town hall. I want to mount this share as a folder, so that the teachers using skolelinux don't need to log on. (if possible) From Mac inside our network this is no problem, just typing smb://10.63.150.254/felles in the file manager. The same with Ubuntu laptops. The network look like this: HOST: tjener.intern 1. gateway.intern 2. 10.63.152.1 3. 10.63.1.2 4. 10.63.150.254 From Konqueror it is not possible to use smb:// like I did on Mac and Ubuntu. The logon dialog box is popping up, but typing username and password does not work. The logon box jut pop up again, empty... smbclient tells me this when run at tjener. tjener:~# smbclient -N -L 10.63.150.254 Anonymous login successful Domain=[ORKIDENETT] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] Sharename Type Comment - --- cli_rpc_pipe_open: cli_nt_create failed on pipe \srvsvc to machine 10.63.150.254. Error was NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED session request to 10.63.150.254 failed (Called name not present) session request to 10 failed (Called name not present) Anonymous login successful Domain=[ORKIDENETT] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] Server Comment ---- 3LDAE003 63ABLO01 ... ... ... ... 63LSADM0163LSADM01 63MORHEG 63PDBI075 WorkgroupMaster ---- ELEVSUNNDAL 63ADOO05 ORKIDENETT 63LSADM01 tjener:~# OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b7e4676.4090...@skolelinux.no
Re: I have rewritten the downloadpage at www.slx.no
Arnt Ove Gregersen skrev: Hi, On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Holger Levsen <mailto:hol...@layer-acht.org>> wrote: On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010, Ole Anders Andreassen wrote: > http://slx.no/en/downloads > Have I missed someting? there is no language selector on this page, can you please add one? I see that it has been added now. Is there any need for a language selector on the download page and any other page, when it is available on the front page? In my opinion it is not. Several pages outside www.slx.no are linking directly to these pages, and do not use the front page as entry page. Thats why the language selector is needed here. OleA I see that pages like "Take a tour" now have less width because of the language selection menu. BR Arnt Ove Gregersen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b784482.5070...@skolelinux.no
Re: [slx-www-int] I have rewritten the downloadpage at www.slx.no
Checsums added (Thanks Jürgen) to http://www.slx.no/en/downloads, and a short explanation about checksum are added. It now look like this: Checksums of the ISO Images md5sum and sha1sum are used to verify the integrity of files. The checksum functions as a compact digital fingerprint of a file. It is extremely unlikely that any two non-identical files existing in the real world will have the same checksum hash. In the Wikipedia articles about md5sum and sha2sum you find external links to utilities that can be used to verify the checksum. md5sum: 01e4ad9bcb36380076bfb19fa81a0465 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-CD.iso ec3b592931491d50f10b8f7f38ad1da3 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-DVD.iso c8253bc5d29b8a4d66378271d72a9f08 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-source-DVD.iso sha1sum: 19041c2bb9c6a8c5ca692085379c5736522f921b debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-CD.iso 49883e1d714ba9df805d9f1c8bdc6bb224c98e19 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-DVD.iso 2da737ba64797eb102596eb577958ef37119cfce debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-source-DVD.iso --- Personally I like the beginning of the first checksum ;-) OleA Holger Levsen skrev: Hi Ole Anders, On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010, Ole Anders Andreassen wrote: Please have a look and tell me what you think. http://slx.no/en/downloads please include the md5sums: 01e4ad9bcb36380076bfb19fa81a0465 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-CD.iso ec3b592931491d50f10b8f7f38ad1da3 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-DVD.iso c8253bc5d29b8a4d66378271d72a9f08 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-source-DVD.iso as well as sha1sums: 19041c2bb9c6a8c5ca692085379c5736522f921b debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-CD.iso 49883e1d714ba9df805d9f1c8bdc6bb224c98e19 debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-DVD.iso 2da737ba64797eb102596eb577958ef37119cfce debian-edu-5.0.4+edu0-source-DVD.iso thanks for your work on this! cheers, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
I have rewritten the downloadpage at www.slx.no
Please have a look and tell me what you think. http://slx.no/en/downloads Have I missed someting? Typos? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Challenge/Declaration - To all DebainEdu/Skolelinux users: The month after release is documantation month. (feb. 8 - march 8.)
This is the "FIXME notes" in the manual (feb 6.) : (1) Pinter management http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/GettingStarted#PrinterManagment -- If you connect the printer for the first time, we suggest to run printconf as root. /!\FIXME: explain what to do when printconf does not accomplish anything. (2) Upgrading software http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/Maintainance#Updatingthesoftware -- Instead of using the command line you can also use kde-update-notifier. /!\FIXME: Explain how to use kde-update-notifier, best with screenshots. (3) Backup management http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/Maintainance#BackupManagement -- /!\FIXME: continue description of slbackup-php usage, maybe with screenshots (4) JAVA fom Sun http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/Administration#JAVAfromSun -- /!\ FIXME: Should we recommend openjdk-6-* from main instead documenting sun-java6-jre? Not sure if a plugin is available... (5) Access Skolelinux for outside a firewall http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/Administration#Accesstoskolelinuxserverfromoutsideafirewall - /!\FIXME: paragraph about access from outside need to be completed and tested. (6) Installing single service machines for spreading the load from main-server http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/Administration#Installingsingleservicemachinesforspreadingtheloadfrommain-server - /!\FIXME: this is so generic its almost useless (7) KDE Kiosk mode http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/Desktop#KDEKioskmode - Note:: modifications to the profiles can be done using kiosktool. However, unless you follow the step below, your changes will be overwritten by upgrades. /!\FIXME: this is broken and a bug should be filed: kiosktool upgrades restore default desktop icons (8) Changing the PXE menu on an LTSP server http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients - /!\ FIXME: Probably (I think its partly described above already) add more info about how to boot diskless workstations instead of thin clients on 192.168.x.x, and that you have to add '3' to the kernel argument list in /var/lib/tftproot/ltsp/ (9) Load balancing LTSP servers http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients#LTSPindetail -- /!\ FIXME: This need to be changed as DHCP configuration is in LDAP. (10) User groups in Windows http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients#ConnectingWindowsmachinestothenetwork.2BAC8Windowsintegration -- /!\ FIXME: should user groups in windows better be explained with lwat first, and then with an example for the command line? (11, 12) Redirecting parts of profile http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients#ConnectingWindowsmachinestothenetwork.2BAC8Windowsintegration /!\ FIXME explain how to use profiles from global policies for windows machines in the skolelinux network /!\ FIXME: describe roaming profile key for the global policy editor here (13) Monitoring pupils http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/TeachAndLearn#Monitoringpupils /!\ FIXME: explain how to install and use italc - 511387 explains this quite well actually. (14) Restricting pupils network access http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/TeachAndLearn#Restrictingpupilsnetworkaccess Some schools use squidguard or dansguardian to restrict internet access. /!\ FIXME: explain how to install and use squidguard and/or dansguardian OleAnders Andreassen Ole-Anders Andreassen skrev: The Lenny manual (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny) has +15 "FIXME" notes. These should have the highest priority when it comes to improving the documentation. OleA ( The more we share, the more we have) Den 04.02.10 23.38, skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen: Challenge/Declaration - To all DebainEdu/Skolelinux users: The month after release is documantation month. (feb. 8 - march 8.) I challenge every member of the community to step up and pitch in. Edit existing documentation and improving it, and adding new documentation, so we can have a shining example of user-friendly help. Even the newbiest of newbs can help by simply pointing out what they'd like to see, or even starting to write it themselves (it's a wiki, so others can correct any mistakes you make, don't be affraid to write english, most of us are not native english speakers). Our experienced users and admins could present usefull tools for administration, or cool features that could be implemented. If the workload is spread evenly around , th
Re: Challenge/Declaration - To all DebainEdu/Skolelinux users: The month after release is documantation month. (feb. 8 - march 8.)
The Lenny manual (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny) has +15 "FIXME" notes. These should have the highest priority when it comes to improving the documentation. OleA ( The more we share, the more we have) Den 04.02.10 23.38, skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen: Challenge/Declaration - To all DebainEdu/Skolelinux users: The month after release is documantation month. (feb. 8 - march 8.) I challenge every member of the community to step up and pitch in. Edit existing documentation and improving it, and adding new documentation, so we can have a shining example of user-friendly help. Even the newbiest of newbs can help by simply pointing out what they'd like to see, or even starting to write it themselves (it's a wiki, so others can correct any mistakes you make, don't be affraid to write english, most of us are not native english speakers). Our experienced users and admins could present usefull tools for administration, or cool features that could be implemented. If the workload is spread evenly around , then it will take no time to document a lot of features i DebianEdu/Skolelinux. Good and easy understandable documentation is one of the most important things when it comes to spread the use of our fantastic distro more. After all DebianEdu/Skolelinux is the most important Linux distro when it comes to introduce Linux and free software in an early age. Here are some ideas: - Walk a beginner through network setup - Walk a begginer through the use of an essential program - The most important and usefull linux commands - How to set up a firewall - How to play videos, dvd, mp3, streams, sound... - The perfect setup - Make a video tutorial - How to do testing (check list?) - Hardware choices - HowTo set up an external backup pc - Update the wishlist at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Wishlist - Get started with Moodle in DebainEdu - Cool educational apps - Installing and configuring printers - Samba - Troubleshooting guides - Links and recomandations to other great guides that are relevant for DebianEdu - Eye candy - Connect your DebianEdu/skolelinux blog to http://planet.skolelinux.org and tell us about the cool stuff you do with DebianEdu. To consider the value of documentation, you only need to look at the projects where it is scant or non-existent. The projects also become scant and non-existent as people find that setup, install and operation are beyond the native intuitiveness of the interface and move onto something more user-friendly - something with documentation. The value of an application is often measured by it's documentation. We have a lot of good documentation, and our manual are becoming better and better every day. But in my oppinion it is almost impossible to get enough :) So let us put our efforts together to make our documentation even better. Ole-Anders Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Challenge/Declaration - To all DebainEdu/Skolelinux users: The month after release is documantation month. (feb. 8 - march 8.)
Challenge/Declaration - To all DebainEdu/Skolelinux users: The month after release is documantation month. (feb. 8 - march 8.) I challenge every member of the community to step up and pitch in. Edit existing documentation and improving it, and adding new documentation, so we can have a shining example of user-friendly help. Even the newbiest of newbs can help by simply pointing out what they'd like to see, or even starting to write it themselves (it's a wiki, so others can correct any mistakes you make, don't be affraid to write english, most of us are not native english speakers). Our experienced users and admins could present usefull tools for administration, or cool features that could be implemented. If the workload is spread evenly around , then it will take no time to document a lot of features i DebianEdu/Skolelinux. Good and easy understandable documentation is one of the most important things when it comes to spread the use of our fantastic distro more. After all DebianEdu/Skolelinux is the most important Linux distro when it comes to introduce Linux and free software in an early age. Here are some ideas: - Walk a beginner through network setup - Walk a begginer through the use of an essential program - The most important and usefull linux commands - How to set up a firewall - How to play videos, dvd, mp3, streams, sound... - The perfect setup - Make a video tutorial - How to do testing (check list?) - Hardware choices - HowTo set up an external backup pc - Update the wishlist at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Wishlist - Get started with Moodle in DebainEdu - Cool educational apps - Installing and configuring printers - Samba - Troubleshooting guides - Links and recomandations to other great guides that are relevant for DebianEdu - Eye candy - Connect your DebianEdu/skolelinux blog to http://planet.skolelinux.org and tell us about the cool stuff you do with DebianEdu. To consider the value of documentation, you only need to look at the projects where it is scant or non-existent. The projects also become scant and non-existent as people find that setup, install and operation are beyond the native intuitiveness of the interface and move onto something more user-friendly - something with documentation. The value of an application is often measured by it's documentation. We have a lot of good documentation, and our manual are becoming better and better every day. But in my oppinion it is almost impossible to get enough :) So let us put our efforts together to make our documentation even better. Ole-Anders Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wishlist for features in Skolelinux
Holger Levsen skrev: Hi, On Montag, 25. Januar 2010, Ole Anders Andreassen wrote: The last days I have been aware of the fact that there is to little communication between users (teachers at schools) and delvelopers. So I thought I should present my wishlist for features in future Skolelinux. Good idea. I'd like to do a session about this at the gathering in February :-) - A netbook version of skolelinux what do you mean with this? An lxde desktop or rather something like moblin? (see moblin.org) No, just debian-edu for use on small netbooks, where users homefolder are mounted at logon. Something that looks like the "things" Klaus has helped Sturla with. - WiFi-controller based on wrt-hardware what do you mean with this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_LAN_Controller But based on cheap wrt-based equipment. An easy way to controll several wireless AP at a school, as a part of skolelinux admin tools. - An easy way to freez all screens in a classroom. One button italc and controlaula which are already in Debian can do this. So it "just" needs to be set up and we need to decide which of the two we are gonna make the default. (So I take your wish to do that.) - Exam-mode, where communication, internet and so on, is blocked. I have checed out Italc now, it sure looks like the tihing I (my teachers) want. I seem to recall italc and controlaula can do this too. - More than 50 static adresses for workstations (why is there a limit) because a small subnet was choosen. (just explaining, not justifying :) This seems to be documented now, and I am a much happier man now :) - Send message to all users, or group of users. italc again, afaik. - Print quota - A way to use the amount of free diskspace on "diskless workstations". (they are sold with harddisk most of them) - Digital signage app (info screen) that runs on the server. - Wii whiteboard, or something similar. _I_ find those less important, which makes me suggest, thats it would be a good idea, to prioritize such a wishlist too. Else we end up with 100 wishes and some are picked up a random, with (as the list gets longer) an increasing chance to pick unimportant ones :) I agree. What about some kind of woting for features? OleA cheers, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Our webpages are getting more and more compleet.
Dear all! We are proud to announce that our international homepage and web forum are getting more and more complete. Some issues still remains, but we will start focusing on translating the content of the international version to all supported languages. = Participate = We will appreciate all the help we can get, so please read information on the following page on how you can register a user account: http://slx.no/en/web-developers Our to do list can be found here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/www/ToDo All people involved in the Skolelinux/DebianEdu project is strongly encouraged to register a user here and participate in the best way possible. Have a look at the image gallery, and maybe you have images that you want to post there? = Developers and translator sections = The developers and translators section of the Community Zone are empty at the moment. We need useful content here so please help us make these sections better = Web forum = Our webfourm is now ready, but we need help to "kick start" the use of it. We hope that as many as possible of our experienced users can help out with adding content. We also need moderators, so please register and let us if you would like to help us moderate the web forum. Please notice that we deleted almost all the existing users here, our old settings for spam/security allowed a lot of spammers to register a user account so we start over. = Content providers = If you have a blog or web page that could be interesting for other people using Skolelinux/DebainEdu, then please let us know and we will add it to the Skolelinux / DebianEdu planet. If anyone would like to have a editor/writer role on the web pages, then please let us know. It is very important that we update the site with up to date news and make the new homepage look alive. For all of you who uses Facebook, please join our Facebook group and help make it a interesting group. Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions, advices or ideas. Please register an account and help us in the best way you can. Thanks & Have a nice day. BR Arnt Ove Gregersen Ole-Anders Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Experiences with RC1 after running it for 24h
Iceweasel is not 100% as it should be. http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1430 I left iceweasel running when I left work yesterday, when I logged inn this morning, it was hanging. Sound on diskless workstations works nice. In nagios I get a warning about apt-update. apt-updates WARNING 2010-01-26 08:24:32 0d 22h 41m 35s 4/4 APT WARNING: 0 packages available for upgrade (0 critical updates). warnings detected, errors detected. run with -v for information. A bit strange this warning, nothing to upgrade :) Root also get a lot of mails every hour with topics like this: N 19 r...@postoffice.i Tue Jan 26 01:00 29/1508 Cron [ -x /usr/sbin/etcinsvk ] N 20 r...@postoffice.i Tue Jan 26 01:00 29/1508 Cron [ -x /usr/sbin/etcinsvk ] Message 1: From r...@postoffice.intern Mon Jan 25 16:00:03 2010 Envelope-to: r...@postoffice.intern Delivery-date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:00:03 +0100 From: r...@postoffice.intern (Cron Daemon) To: r...@postoffice.intern Subject: Cron [ -x /usr/sbin/etcinsvk ] && [ -d ~root/.svk ] && /usr/sbin/etcinsvk commit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:00:03 +0100 Unable to read terminal settings in GetControlChars at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Util.pm line 195. Unable to read terminal settings in GetControlChars at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Util.pm line 195. Unable to read terminal settings in GetControlChars at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Util.pm line 195. Unable to read terminal settings in GetControlChars at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Util.pm line 195. Unable to read terminal settings in GetControlChars at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Util.pm line 195. Unable to read terminal settings in GetControlChars at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/Util.pm line 195. What is this? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Extending Statics for Etch in Wiki/Re: Wishlist for features in Skolelinux
RalfGesellensetter skrev: Am Montag, 25. Januar 2010 schrieb Ole-Anders Andreassen: Ralf: I would be a very happy man if you could share your knowledge about how to extend the range of statics :) Hi, virtually: yes of course. But: I have to add that my changes related to a Sarge Tjener. I posted my step on the list and was waiting for a final confirmation. Now I remember, having entered my findings into the Wiki...: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Etch/HowTo/NetworkClients?action=diff&rev1=17&rev2=16 Holger was so kind to give it some finishing: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Etch/HowTo/NetworkClients?action=diff&rev1=19&rev2=17 So, this is what I learned - but it might be easier with Lenny + Lwat. I think Lenny is a bit different. Lenny is using PowerDNS and lwat. At the moment, the only reference in the Lenny manual is this: "FIXME: add a pointer to DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/GettingStarted#DNSManagementwithlwat and describe it there. " ...and here the only text related to this, is as follow: "DNS Administration" OleA Kind regards Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wishlist for features in Skolelinux
Thanks Knut :) OleA Knut Yrvin wrote: On Mandag 25. januar 2010, Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote: As we all know very well, the fundamental idea behind FOSS is sharing. I've added your list to this page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Wishlist It was an Etch Wishlist too which pointed to a Etch TODO list. But it seems to technical compared to your suggestion Ole Anders: http://wiki.debian.org/EtchWishList http://wiki.debian.org/EtchTODOList I suggest we get the suggestions in the general Wishlist, and sort out the details to a prioritised TODO list as we go. Going forward the Wishlist input which as put in next DebianEdu can be transferred to the ReleaseNotes: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/ReleaseNotes Best regards Knut Yrvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wishlist for features in Skolelinux
Wow! Thanks for all the replys :) It seems like much of the content in my wish list already is available. This tells me that Skolelinux easily could be improved a lot, just by adding more documentation and sharing of ideas. As we all know very well, the fundamental idea behind FOSS is sharing. I think we have some way to go here regarding documentation. I know administrators and schools that has left Skolelinux, and started using edubuntu because the amount of documentation. Please let us do something to stop this from happening. Ralf: I would be a very happy man if you could share your knowledge about how to extend the range of statics :) Remember: ~ the more we share the more we have ~ OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Wishlist for features in Skolelinux
The last days I have been aware of the fact that there is to little communication between users (teachers at schools) and delvelopers. So I thought I should present my wishlist for features in future Skolelinux. - A netbook version of skolelinux - WiFi-controller based on wrt-hardware - An easy way to freez all screens in a classroom. One button - Exam-mode, where communication, internet and so on, is blocked. - More than 50 static adresses for workstations (why is there a limit) - Send message to all users, or group of users. - Print quota - A way to use the amount of free diskspace on "diskless workstations". (they are sold with harddisk most of them) - Digital signage app (info screen) that runs on the server. - Wii whiteboard, or something similar. What is your wishlist, or vision? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lenny release timeline canceled by constant changes
Holger Levsen skrev: Hi, I think I give up. Please don't :) It seems we have different ideas how to create a stable release and when this should be ready, so I stop wasting my time now. If you think my approach is right, please stop the madness, we can prepare changes for after the release in a branch and just trunk as before to get lenny out. (and there is still work to do: documentation has lots of FIXMEs I think this sounds like a reasonable approach. Documentation is important as well. If features is not documentet, only a few skilled users and the developers are sometimes the only one able to use them. I'd love to work on instead of doing this stupid discussion and reviewing p4 bug-fixes constantly, as each has the risk to indroduce breakage.) and then (after lenny is out) I'd be happy to work on a pointrelease, to fix stuff which needs fixing, but as said, first the release, then the pointrelease. I would like to se a release as soon as possible, and if it is possible to add fixes at a later point that shouldn be a problem. Or...? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: License of check_cups_queue?
I found his blogg at http://lusislog.blogspot.com/, it was last updated 10. jan 2010. But I'm not able to find a mailaddress there. Maybe it is possible to post the question in the blog's comment field. OleA Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Petter Reinholdtsen] Hi. I've noticed your Nagios plugin for CUPS available from http://dev.lusis.org/nagios/check_cups_queue.txt> and http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Printing/check_cups_queue/details>, and consider including it in Debian Edu to check the status of the CUPS installation. This email resulted in an automatic bounce: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: nagios-pl...@lusis.org SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:: host fathom.lusis.org [69.55.234.200]: 550 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table This make it very hard to figure out the license of this plugin. :( Anyone know of a working email address for John E. Vincent, the author of check_cups_queue? Happy hacking, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problems with Iceweasel in Lenny
Has anyone tried to install FireFox 3.5 in Lenny? OleA Ole Anders Andreassen wrote: From the page Snorre pointed to: "Linux users report that updating Sqlite and then removing all places.sqlite* files resolves the issue", an then points to two links that may be of interest: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=703815&start=15 and http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?&comments_parentId=181252&forumId=1 OleA Snorre Jensen skrev: On 15. jan. 2010 10:48, Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote: I have several problems with Iceweasel running under Lenny. After a dirty shutdown of the client, it is not possible to run Iceweasel before the file .parenlock is removed. History stops working Navigation buttons stops working. This happens when places.sqlite is locked or damaged http://kb.mozillazine.org/Unable_to_delete_or_edit_certain_bookmarks_-_Firefox I have to remove .mozilla to get things working again. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problems with Iceweasel in Lenny
From the page Snorre pointed to: "Linux users report that updating Sqlite and then removing all places.sqlite* files resolves the issue", an then points to two links that may be of interest: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=703815&start=15 and http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?&comments_parentId=181252&forumId=1 OleA Snorre Jensen skrev: On 15. jan. 2010 10:48, Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote: I have several problems with Iceweasel running under Lenny. After a dirty shutdown of the client, it is not possible to run Iceweasel before the file .parenlock is removed. History stops working Navigation buttons stops working. This happens when places.sqlite is locked or damaged http://kb.mozillazine.org/Unable_to_delete_or_edit_certain_bookmarks_-_Firefox I have to remove .mozilla to get things working again. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Problems with Iceweasel in Lenny
I have several problems with Iceweasel running under Lenny. After a dirty shutdown of the client, it is not possible to run Iceweasel before the file .parenlock is removed. History stops working Navigation buttons stops working. I have to remove .mozilla to get things working again. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Summary from IRC meeting 2010-01-11
Meeting Summary The meeting took place on #debian-edu (irc.debian.org), on 2010-11-01 (Monday) from 19.00 UTC to 20:00 UTC. Moderator: Holger Levsen Writing summary: Ole-Anders Andreassen The full log is at http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-edu/2010/debian-edu.2010-01-11-19.01.log.html. The automated summary is at http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-edu/2010/debian-edu.2010-01-11-19.01.txt. Meeting started by h01ger at 19:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-edu/2010/debian-edu.2010-01-11-19.01.log.html 1. please indicate your presence - who will write the summary? LINK: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting OleA will write the summary Participants pere = Petter Reinholdtsen vagrantc = Vagrant Cascadian debalance = Philipp Huebner h01ger = Holger Levsen Werner = Morten Werner Forsbring and1bm Andreas Mundt jever = Jürgen Leibner OleA = Ole-Anders Andreassen klausade = klaus ade johnstad janr (1) ?? and1bm (1) ?? 2. lenny status 2.1 lenny status: #1409: Iceweasel does not save exception rule for https://www/lwat according to the ticket, there is still work to do for #1409 I suspect it is working now, but an error is logged during installation anyway. The error is from snakeoil-on-ice executed within ltsp-make-client, and it fail because http://www is unavailable. I suspect the check in snakeoil-on-ice simply is checking things in the wrong order or something. 2.2 status lenny: 1408: Diskless Workstation not working yet http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1408 Bug #1408 seem to be the dumping ground for everything diskless related. The original problem was ldap connection related. But dvd installs should now be working. Diskless workstations when using netinstall on real hard ware has meen working the last 3 weeks. There are strong indications that this bug is only related to install on vbox. debalance will check if #1408 is still there tomorrow 2.3 status lenny: 1138: We need to check and act on the non-free packages on the DVD h01ger said he was going to look at this (pere, 19:21:05) I created a wiki page to keep information on what we figured out for each non-free package. (pere, 19:21:34) LINK: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/NonFreePackages 2.4 status lenny: 1415: Cannot unlock KDE lock session http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1415 needs investigation, afaics There was a bug (#534714) about missing /etc/pam.d/kde in Debian which caused the same behaviour. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534714 The scenario of log-in working, but unlocking a session not, is when /etc/pam.d/kdm is there, but /etc/pam.d/kde is not 21:21 < klausade> aah. must test screenlock that doesn't work. 2.5 status lenny: 1412: Errors when building the LTSP chroot are not reported to the user http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1412 ltsp-build-client failed to return an error, and thus the udeb failed to pass the error on. doesn't detect ltsp-build-client failures "every time" the bug being that it doesn't detect ltsp-build-client failures Concludes #1412 still needs some work 3. alpha3 Lets copy an image tonite, test it, and call it alpha3 tomorrow? * h01ger will try to find a good moment to make an alpha3 4. rc1 If alpha3 looks promising, i'd like to see rc1 RSN. Where looks promising = not absolutly unreleasable. 5. any other business 5.1 any other business: should we modify lwat to allow editing passwords per default No agreement how we should deal with lwat + changing passwords. Needs more discussion, probably on the list. update the wiki about extending the range of statics? OleA, considering that the documentation for etch was (almost: a lot) worse, i dont think the documentation is a blocker per se. rather the opposite 5.2 AOB: should we test stable-proposed-updates by default in the CD image? 6. next meeting AGREED: next meeting, next monday, 19 utc (h01ger, 19:59:08) Meeting ended at 19:59:48 UTC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
USB not working on Diskless workstation
Installed LTSP+Tjener, using image from sunday 10. jan. USB stick/diskdrives is not working on diskless workstations. USB is not popping up, and does not appear in konqueror system:/media tail -f /var/log/syslog: Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.776779] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.776779] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909481] usb 4-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909481] usb 4-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909760] usb 4-4: New USB device found, idVendor=154b, idProduct=6545 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909760] usb 4-4: New USB device found, idVendor=154b, idProduct=6545 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909767] usb 4-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909767] usb 4-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909770] usb 4-4: Product: USB 2.0 FD Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909770] usb 4-4: Product: USB 2.0 FD Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909772] usb 4-4: Manufacturer: PNY Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909772] usb 4-4: Manufacturer: PNY Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909774] usb 4-4: SerialNumber: 0165700C86D36B12 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 156.909774] usb 4-4: SerialNumber: 0165700C86D36B12 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.004228] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.004228] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005259] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005259] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005473] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005473] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005476] USB Mass Storage support registered. Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005476] USB Mass Storage support registered. Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005960] usb-storage: device found at 2 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005960] usb-storage: device found at 2 Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005963] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Jan 10 16:56:39 static00 kernel: [ 157.005963] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Jan 10 16:56:40 dhcp003 ntpd[2712]: stat(/var/log/ntpstats/peerstats) failed: Stale NFS file handle Jan 10 16:56:40 dhcp003 ntpd[2712]: can't open /var/log/ntpstats/peerstats.20100110: Stale NFS file handle Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.004154] usb-storage: device scan complete Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.004154] usb-storage: device scan complete Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.004776] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access PNY USB 2.0 FD 8.02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.004776] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access PNY USB 2.0 FD 8.02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007162] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 15695871 512-byte hardware sectors (8036 MB) Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007162] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 15695871 512-byte hardware sectors (8036 MB) Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007917] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007917] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007923] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007923] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007926] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.007926] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010256] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 15695871 512-byte hardware sectors (8036 MB) Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010256] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 15695871 512-byte hardware sectors (8036 MB) Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010883] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010883] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010889] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010889] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010892] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010892] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel: [ 162.010897] sdb: sdb1 Jan 10 16:56:44 static00 kernel:
No sound on diskless
I'm not able to play sound on diskless client (netinstall 10. jan) Youtube (w/flash10) gives no sound. "test sound" button i KDE gives no sound. No sound from KDE-spalsh when logging in OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Sucessfull install with netinstall-cd, but diskless boots slow
Just finished a successfull install using netinstall cd dated 10. jan No errors repported after install finihed. Booting diskless workstation is now slow again. The pxe-menu sows after a few seconds. When choosing LTSP diskless workstation, the boot starts normal, but a few seconds after the bootsplash/progress bar starts, the image freezes for 1 min 30 sec. No entries in syslog during this time. Then the screen is going black for a few seconds, an switching to text-mode. The first message shown, is: "acer-wmi: No or unsupported WMI interface bla bla bla bla..." This message show for only a second or so, before textscroll starts, and KDM starts. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Cannot unlock KDE lock session
I changed the password on my testuser and now when I do a lock session and then go to unlock it says unlock denied. The same thing happens when screensaver kicks in. I tried using the old password and that doesn't work either, I have no problem logging-in however with the new password. I the made a new user to test with. But same thing happens here, so changing password is not the cause OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Test of netinstall from 3.jan
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Ole-Anders Andreassen]
DHCP is still running on the server that I installed yesterday. I
have not made any changes, and I have only one client running on the
network.
Good to hear. :)
During boot of diskless workstation I get an error; "unable to
read hostname from DNS"
This is a problem on the diskless workstation with reverse DNS lookup.
What is the content of /etc/resolv.conf on the diskless workstation?
I'm not able to start Nagios, Lwat and Backup in Iceweasel.
Error: sec_error_untrusted_issuer
No idea, never seen that one myself.
History in Iceweasel is not working, so back/forward arrows is
useless.
No idea about this one either.
Are all these related to the message about DNS?
At least the first. The second might be related too, but do not know.
What is the output from /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd and
/usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/ldap-client on this diskless
workstation?
o...@static02:~$ /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: Got internet
connectivity, testing global DNS.
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'maintainer.skolelinux.no' on server 'domain' works
('158.36.191.137').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '158.36.191.137' on server 'domain' works
('maintainer.skolelinux.no').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'tjener' on server 'domain' works ('10.0.2.2').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '10.0.2.2' on server 'domain' works ('tjener.intern').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'tjener.intern' on server 'domain' works ('10.0.2.2').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '10.0.2.2' on server 'domain' works ('tjener.intern').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'ltspserver00' on server 'domain' works ('10.0.2.10').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '10.0.2.10' on server 'domain' works ('ltspserver00.intern').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'static00' on server 'domain' works ('10.0.2.50').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '10.0.2.50' on server 'domain' works ('static00.intern').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'ltsp200' on server 'domain' works ('192.168.0.200').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '192.168.0.200' on server 'domain' works ('ltsp200.intern').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for 'ltsp200.intern' on server 'domain' works ('192.168.0.200').
success: /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/dnsd: DNS lookup
for '192.168.0.200' on server 'domain' works ('ltsp200.intern').
o...@static02:~$ /usr/lib/debian-edu-config/testsuite/ldap-client
o...@static02:~$
OleA
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Test of netinstall from 3.jan
DHCP is still running on the server that I installed yesterday. I have not made any changes, and I have only one client running on the network. During boot of diskless workstation I get an error; "unable to read hostname from DNS" I'm not able to start Nagios, Lwat and Backup in Iceweasel. Error: sec_error_untrusted_issuer History in Iceweasel is not working, so back/forward arrows is useless. Are all these related to the message about DNS? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Documentation for extending range of statics i Lenny needed
Hi! HowTo extend the number of statics are not documented in Lenny. As default there are only reserved 50 static adresses, many schools need more than this. Since Etch is using Bind, the hints given in this manual does not seem to be help full i Lenny. Some hits form #debian-edu: - edit ldap with phpldapadmin Problem: not able to log in using cn=admin,ou=People,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no as username, and root password. I.m getting this error: error: Coukd not start TLS. Please check your LDAP server configuration Using 'ldapvi --discover' gives an editor showing the content of LDAP. I've made a "placeholder" in the wiki for documentation about this. Please help out. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Extending range of Statics
Holger Levsen skrev: Hi Ralf, On Samstag, 12. Dezember 2009, RalfGesellensetter wrote: db.intern and db.10 look very similar (as they define corresponding ranges), and I wonder if this redundancy could be used to unify those two files (in order to reduce points of failure). sure, there are many many things that _could_ be done. there are less things that could be done and are sensible to do. In this case, this relation is inherited from the way bind9 has to be configured, and as such this should, if at all, be changed in bind upstream. working around with providing scripts is likely to break, whenever bind9 changes. Thank you, if you confirm this, we can put this into wiki (and possibly even into svn). I dont think we (the Debian Edu _developers_) should spend any time on etch anymore (security support will be terminated in 3 months at max, rather earlier). In lenny we switched to powerdns instead of bind, thus this is beating a dead horse. So all our work atm should be directed at releasing lenny asap and providing good documenation for it. How do I extend the range of statics in Lenny then ;) cheers, Holger OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e0000000 is not E820-reserved,
Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev: Thursday 10. of December 2009 00.54.42 skrev Ole Anders Andreassen : Tried to boot a new Asus Veriton 480L as a diskless workstation on servers running Etch. Just before the splash screen starts I can read this message: PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e000 is not E820-reserved After the splas screen the boot stops. And if you remove the splas screen, what does it print to screen? It hangs at the NIC, and the card is a Marvell 88E8071 OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Error: unable to find PXE-file /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0
I have posted the syslog here: http://skolelinux.no/~olea/syslog_2009_12_10.txt (Will be removed i a few days) OleA Ole-Anders Andreassen wrote: just finished a testinstalation of Tjener+LTSP (debian-edu-amd64-i386-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 9.des) - I got this error message after the install: error:conversion of LTSP to diskless workstation ended abnormally. Error: unable to find PXE-file /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0 OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Error: unable to find PXE-file /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0
just finished a testinstalation of Tjener+LTSP (debian-edu-amd64-i386-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 9.des) - I got this error message after the install: error:conversion of LTSP to diskless workstation ended abnormally. Error: unable to find PXE-file /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0 OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Skolelinux DebianEdu accounts for logging on to (k)Ubuntu workstations
Hi! In our library they want (k)Ubuntu workstations for the students. How can I enable the students user accounts (DebianEdu Etch) on these? I have seen some documentation on this, but it seems to be outdated. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e0000000 is not E820-reserved,
Ole Anders Andreassen skrev: Tried to boot a new Asus Veriton 480L as a diskless workstation on servers running Etch. Just before the splash screen starts I can read this message: PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e000 is not E820-reserved After the splas screen the boot stops. On the same servers I'm running Acer Veriton 480 that is about a year older, and these boot with no problems.(I had to install newer kernel) The problematic client runs and boots on my testservers running the latest Lenny test-image. Any ideas how I can mange to boot the new client on Etch? I have installed kernel-image 2.6.26-bpo.2 on the LTSP (and chroot) , but this didn't have any effect. OleA One more thing... At the same moment as the client start to hang, the NIC lights is going black. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e0000000 is not E820-reserved,
Tried to boot a new Asus Veriton 480L as a diskless workstation on servers running Etch. Just before the splash screen starts I can read this message: PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e000 is not E820-reserved After the splas screen the boot stops. On the same servers I'm running Acer Veriton 480 that is about a year older, and these boot with no problems.(I had to install newer kernel) The problematic client runs and boots on my testservers running the latest Lenny test-image. Any ideas how I can mange to boot the new client on Etch? I have installed kernel-image 2.6.26-bpo.2 on the LTSP (and chroot) , but this didn't have any effect. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Extending range of Statics
How and where can I make changes to extend the range of statics on my etch-server. Are there documaentation for this somwhere? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: have thin clients had their day?
For exams, midterm exams and mock exams, thin clients are very useful. The students use laptops, netbooks and ordinary clients, and boot them as thin clients. There is no need for flash, sound or movie during the tests. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Short summary after testing DVD (7.des)
Installed with no problems. (64 bit install from DVD) Booting client is now much faster. I'm not able to login when booting "diskless workstation", and this message pops up: "A critical error occured. Please look at KDM's logfile's for more information" Syslog displays the following lines when login fails: 14:00:06 ltsp kdm: :0[2407]: PAM error: Critical error - immediate abort 14:00:46 ltsp kdm_greet[2510]: Can't write to core 14:00:46 ltsp kdm: :0[2407]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 1, signal 0 Booting "thin client" and login is no problem. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian Edu in Indian Schools
Hi Praveen! Praveen A skrev: 2) Is there a list of artwork customisation done by debian edu that we can use? We would like to use our on artwork. Looking forward to working with you. I'm looking for the same thing, and I just found this page. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Teams/ArtWork It seems like this page is a bit outdated, so maybe we could start collecting more info and guides here? Regards OleA Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Wii whiteboard (Klaus Knopper used one at the gatgering in Oslo)
Can someone give me some hints about howto's and info? I have tried google, but its mostly windows-based wiimote that shows up. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Test of LTSP diskless workstation - boots after 5 min 55 sec
Booting my diskless workstations takes nearly 6 minutes. Start after Power on00:00 PXE strarts 00:20 Installer screen00:29 DebianEdu splash00:35 unsupported acer_wmi02:21 ..text scrolling.. 05:33 KDM logon 05:55 The DebianEdu spalsh hangs for almost 2 minutes The message about unsupported acer-wmi hangs for 3 minutes OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Successful install of tjener+LTSP
Hi all! Yesterday I did a successful install of tjener+LTSP using the netinstall-image dated 28.nov kl 23.27 There were no errors reported after the install. After adding MAC-address in LWAT, I booted a client (Acer L480) From the bootmenu I selected the "Diskless workstation" option. The boot hangs for 2-3 minutes at the message: "no or unsupported WMI interface", but then continues and finish the boot. I log in, and start Icewasel, xchat, openoffice, celestia and inkscape, just to test :) During the evening or night, the DHCP-server has stopped, and I'm not able to find out when or why. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Howto::Re: Diskless workstations : NFS common fails, no KDM and home area is not found and set to /
As Ralf says, todays howto for diskless workstation relates to Etch. I have started working on a new howto inside http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients The Network Clients howto is a part of the Lenny documentation, so I would suggest that we put our effort here. Please help out with this part of the manual, diskless workstations are a major part of debian-edu, and need to be documented. OleA RalfGesellensetter skrev: Dear Jan, dear list, I think there were some announcements of a howto for disless clients. But I can't remember that anybody had finished such manual. Being subscribed to http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/LtspDisklessWorkstation I just realised that this howto relates to Etch, so, please: Everybody testing/running Diskless clients, help fixing this manual! Thanks Ralf. Am Freitag, 20. November 2009 schrieb Jan Roar Rød: Hi. Diskless workstations : NFS common fails, no KDM and home area is not found and set to / I have tried anndin ltsp.local and server.local in /etc/hosts. no joy. same NFS Common failing. anyone got a solution that works? :) mvh Jan Roar Rød -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Fwd: Digital signage app for Linux (Info screen)]
gilberto alves skrev: Hello OleA Andreassen! Sorry, but I do not understand very well your email. xibo runs on a server using apache and apache runs in linux or windows. Please could you give more information and what is conexion with debian edu. regards from São Paulo - Brazil The server part of Xibo runs on Linux, but the client only runs on windows. It is using .net Xibo is working on a cross platform client, and a short demo can be viewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLzv8yOp000 OleA Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Digital signage app for Linux (Info screen)
Does anyone know about a digital signage app that runs on Linux. I have looked at Xibo (http://xibo.org.uk/), but then I would have to run Windows. Maybe there is other ways to do this, than running a dedicated Digital Signage application, any ideas or experiences? OleA Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Test install of main server
Oded Naveh skrev: [Ole Anders Andreassen - Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:07 AM] Oded Naveh skrev: Is your /boot on a physical volume or lvm? This one I'm not quite sure of. How do I check it? 'mount' would tell you what file systems are attached where, look for what's mounted on /boot or get straight to the point: 'mount | grep root' I assume you mean guided partitioning with LVM? Have you tried using fully automatic partitioning? I choose fully automatic partitioning, but in the next step I have to choose partitioning with LVM. When testing on vitualbox the part where I can select partitioning with LVM does not show up. It could be your hard disk is too small for the partitioner to apply the recipe? Then it will leave it for you to solve and what's more it wouldn't even present you with these prefabricated options. That way or another you didn't get the automated partitioning going for you and you're likely to end up with /boot on LVM which GRUB can't handle. If your hard disk is larger than 14GB please file a bug report, as partitioning was sorted out sometime ago and should be working fine, it should be easy to spot any recent commits that bugged it down. If your hard disk is about 14GB it is just about big enough and evidently using one partition for all will get you through, than unless you intend to add more disks later there's no point really to use LVM and that saves you the need to create another partition for /boot. Just choose one of the non LVM options. Of course such system will not be very useful therefore I gather you're only doing it to test the installation, so lots of thanks for that. Courage, Odd. I have tested on 3 different servers, and all of them ended with GRUB error. An old Compaq PIII 1000mhz with 2x36GB, adaptec 2100s raidcontroller Fujitsu Siemens Xeon something, with 2x72GB, adaptec 2100s raidcontroller HP Proliant 380 G5, with 4x72GB sas, HP Smart Array 410i raidcontroller Bugreport filed two days ago :) http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1395 Please tell me if I should add some logs to the bug report. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Test install of main server
Oded Naveh skrev: [Ole Anders Andreassen - Friday, November 20, 2009 1:13 AM] The last days I 've done several test-installs of main-server that has ended with GRUB error. Is your /boot on a phisical volume or lvm? This one I'm not quite sure of. How do I check it? When installing on real hardware I got 3 or 4 choices on how to do the automatic partitioning. Here I have choosed automatic with LVM. I assume you mean guided partitioning with LVM? Have you tried using fully automatic partitioning? I choose fully automatic partitioning, but in the next step I have to choose partitioning woth LVM. When testing on vitualbox the part where I can select partitioning with LVM does not show up. OleA Odd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Test install of main server
The last days I 've done several test-installs of main-server that has ended with GRUB error. This evening I did test installs in virtualbox, and I recognized a difference in the install procedure. When installing on real hardware I got 3 or 4 choices on how to do the automatic partitioning. Here I have choosed automatic with LVM. When installing in virtualbox, I don't get this choice, only the automatic partitioning "bullet". The install on real hardware ends in GRUB error The vbox install reboots, the DebianEdu screen shows up and hangs for a while before changing into a cli with the following text: Booting the kernel. Loading please wait... 7 logical volume(s) in the volume group "vg-system" now active 7 logical volume(s) in the volume group "vg-system" now active kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG_SYSTEM_SWAP_1) 0 DM-3(254-3) kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG_SYSTEM_SWAP_1 kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot After this I get info about error during install: error: Resize of /dev/vg_system_root failed. Another thing that maybe is worth mentioning, is that I have to delete LVM groups everytime I'm doing a new test install on real hardware. After I have deleted LVM, I have to reboot and start the install form the beginning. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Net-install (rsync 15.nov) installed with no install erroers
on., 18.11.2009 kl. 15.42 +0100, skrev Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Ole-Anders Andreassen] > > Added MAC-adr in lwat, and tried to boot a LTSP-diskless-workstation. > > The workstation booted in a new an unfamiliar way, the "installer boot > > menu" > > > > Where can I find information about this, or can someone on the list give > > a brief description og the functionality? > > I do not believe it is documented yet. > > This is the new PXE meny with installer and boot selection option. It > should sho up on the skolelinux network. Thin clients should still > boot automatically as before on the thin client network without such > PXE menu. > > I recently added code to add a diskless workstation option to the PXE > (by running ltsp-make-client during installation on combined > main-server+thin-client-server installations), and this might have > messed up the LTSP chroot a bit. We are working on weeding out the > remaining bugs > Does this mean that this is a problem that maybe only affects combined servers? > > When choosing "LTSP diskless workstation", the boot-image hangs after a > > few seconds. Pressing alt-arrow to get to the next screen , and after a > > while the boot stops at "*Starting NFS common utillities" > > This seem to be the remaining bug, not quite sure what the issue is. > Some claim the issue is DNS resolver related, and changing etc/hosts > and/or etc/resolv.conf solve it. I am not yet sure what the problem > is nor how to fix it. > > Happy hacking, > -- > Petter Reinholdtsen > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Net-install (rsync 15.nov) installed with no install erroers
Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole-Anders Andreassen] When choosing "LTSP diskless workstation", the boot-image hangs after a few seconds. Pressing alt-arrow to get to the next screen , and after a while the boot stops at "*Starting NFS common utillities" This seem to be the remaining bug, not quite sure what the issue is. Some claim the issue is DNS resolver related, and changing etc/hosts and/or etc/resolv.conf solve it. I am not yet sure what the problem is nor how to fix it. Should I post logs from the boot session, and if so, what logs should I post? Anything else I can do during testing? OleAnders Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Net-install (rsync 15.nov) installed with no install erroers
Installation with the net-install CD worked perfectly. No install errors reported after det install, Added MAC-adr in lwat, and tried to boot a LTSP-diskless-workstation. The workstation booted in a new an unfamiliar way, the "installer boot menu" Where can I find information about this, or can someone on the list give a brief description og the functionality? When choosing "LTSP diskless workstation", the boot-image hangs after a few seconds. Pressing alt-arrow to get to the next screen , and after a while the boot stops at "*Starting NFS common utillities" OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Testing DVD (15. nov 2009) - Installastion fininshed,
When booting a client, theres a lot of messages in the syslog about Read-only file system. http://pastebin.com/m795a37dd OleA ti., 17.11.2009 kl. 12.16 +0100, skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen: > Installed almost successfully on a HP Proliant 380. > > After making of Chroot the install seemed to hang, so I pressed Ctrl-C. > I'm not sure if this was the reason why the install continued, and > finished. Maybe I was to impatient, and just should have waited. > > After install there was a warning about errors during the install. > > "error: no such partition, error: no such partition, error: no such > partition, error: no such partition, error: no such partition > > > I've pasted the errors from the install log, and the .partition info > here: > > http://pastebin.com/m41abb340 > > > > OleA > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Testing DVD (15. nov 2009) - Installastion fininshed,
Installed almost successfully on a HP Proliant 380. After making of Chroot the install seemed to hang, so I pressed Ctrl-C. I'm not sure if this was the reason why the install continued, and finished. Maybe I was to impatient, and just should have waited. After install there was a warning about errors during the install. "error: no such partition, error: no such partition, error: no such partition, error: no such partition, error: no such partition I've pasted the errors from the install log, and the .partition info here: http://pastebin.com/m41abb340 OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Test of DVD install failed
What should I look for in the logs, and what part should I submitt to bugzilla? OleA Ole Anders Andreassen skrev: Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole Anders Andreassen] Tested DVD-image that was rsync'ed nov. 11. The test install was done on a HP Proliant 380 server. LTSP + mainserver combo The install stopped during making of chroot. During or after? Did it help to use ^c to get the installer going again? Do you have installation logs? The install hanged during the making of chroot, ^c didn't help. The server did not respond at all, so i left it, hoping that "someting" maybe will happen during the night :) No logs at the moment. OleA If it is the same problem I experience in kvm, I expect this is http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1371 >. Happy hacking, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Test of DVD install failed
Petter Reinholdtsen skrev: [Ole Anders Andreassen] Tested DVD-image that was rsync'ed nov. 11. The test install was done on a HP Proliant 380 server. LTSP + mainserver combo The install stopped during making of chroot. During or after? Did it help to use ^c to get the installer going again? Do you have installation logs? The install hanged during the making of chroot, ^c didn't help. The server did not respond at all, so i left it, hoping that "someting" maybe will happen during the night :) No logs at the moment. OleA If it is the same problem I experience in kvm, I expect this is http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1371 >. Happy hacking, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Test of DVD install failed
Tested DVD-image that was rsync'ed nov. 11. The test install was done on a HP Proliant 380 server. LTSP + mainserver combo The install stopped during making of chroot. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who should recieve refunding information
http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Styret/Okonomi is updated Send the travel invoice to: Jørgen Grønlund - [ jorgenhg at gmail com ] Gamlehagen 11 N-1151 Oslo NORWAY Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, could anybody please tell me where I should send my e-mail about refunding for previous gatherings (namely the Trondheim gathering). Kind regards Andreas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
reimbursement of travelling expenses
The page with information about reimbursement of travelling expenses is updatet: http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Styret/Okonomi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Showcase Appliance for Schools
RalfGesellensetter skrev: Hey Ole, thanks for backing this idea. I bet, that at least 40 % of all school will cry for such displays withing the year to come. Yes, I know about 2 more schools that have the same needs. Am Montag 24 November 2008 schrieb Ole-Anders Andreassen: For us it is important to have the ability to display different content on different screens. Let me guess: Screen 1: "You are watching screen 1 now. Please move on to find more" Screen 2: "You are watching screen 2 now. Move back to see screen 1." Screen 3: "Welcome to screen 3, there is 8 more screens to come" ... scnr ;) H. The monitor placed in the schools entrance area should not display the same contet as the monitor outside the canteen. OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Showcase Appliance for Schools
Hi! Next year we will need this kind of feature. (new school) We are planing 9 - 11 information screens, so this kind of teature out of the box would be great. For us it is important to have the ability to display different content on different screens. OleA la. den 22.11.2008 klokka 18:48 (+0100) skreiv RalfGesellensetter: > Dear list, > > in my region there is an increasing amount of schools who start > displaying their daily informations on large TFT screens (40 inch). > There has been a marketing campaign by some reseller aiming directly at > schools, and also myself was to install such info point. > > Short version: Trying to tame the pre-installed "XP embedded" was not > really a joy, and as most of you, I would like to implement free and > working software (faws) as much as possible. Plus, I could imagine that > shipping such feature out of the box, could give us further advantages. > > 1. Content server: Samsung syncmaster 400 PXn host a built in PC with > 4GB flash disk, running XP by default. There is some MagicInfo-Software > Client which tries to fetch content or schedules from a corresponding > server software (which must be purchased as well). > > However, we managed to set up some free CMS (yoomla!) including some > nice extensions. Administrative members were trained to edit articles. > > 2. Display Client: All we do by now, is auto-starting Firefox in > fullscreen mode, displaying our (password protected) yoomla!page. > > Now, there is two further ways to go: > (a) Either try to replace proprietary content servers by free software > (this would enable schools to just display any content with the given > software). Likewise the schedule server would be very helpfull to save > energy during lessons/over night. > (b) Or provide a usb-drive ready live system that auto starts firefox > (PXE-boot is also possible, of course). But still, this systems needs a > way to schedule shutting down/resume (maybe just for the screen). > > What do you think? Do you know of any free content display system that > is fed by some kind of stream (like rtp/rtsp) and thus made to download > a sequence of pictures, texts (pdf?), and presenting them in a kind of > slide show? I've seen commercial solutions in "sophisticated" bars. > > Regards > Ralf > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Volunteer to renew devcamp equipment boxes
to. den 20.11.2008 klokka 20:20 (+0100) skreiv Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Bjarne Nielsen] > > I thought I'd try to fix this before the gathering in > > December. Anyone who has suggestions to what equipment should be > > included - please speak up. > > Very good to see you volunteering to fix this. :) > > Not sure what should be included, but here are a few ideas: > > - some commonly used laptops > - OLPC > - one machine with the 4 VGA on one PCI card from Brasil > - a machine with a DVD burner > - some small thin clients / diskless workstation style machines > - a USB camera supported by v4l/v4l2 > - machines with different network cards and wireless cards > Asus Eee Box ? > > Initially I'd say a machine or two that could be used as servers, a > > few different clients, and one or two laptops. Should all equipment > > be compatible with some specific kernel version out-of-the-box, or > > is it better to have some different equipment, and then make lenny > > work with the equipment in question? > > I do not have any strong opinions here. As the machines will hang > around a while (the old ones are very old :), I belive we should not > be too worried about hardware support in etch, at least, but we should > stay away from hardware produced by vendors not friendly to linux, if > this make it unlikely the hardware will ever be supported by the > GNU/Linux distributions. > > Happy hacking, > -- > Petter Reinholdtsen > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus EEe Box boot problems
ty. den 04.11.2008 klokka 09:10 (+0100) skreiv Bjarne Nielsen: > Network card not supported. What kernel are you using? > > Bjarne > uname -r 2.6.18-6-686 > > På Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:29:37 +0100, skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I've just bought some Asus Eee Boxes to test in a SLX-network. > > So fare it has been disappointing. The boot stops after this lines: > > > > --- > > Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel. > > PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e000 is not E820-reserved > > PCI: Not using MMCONFIG > > Loading, please wait... > > IP-Config: eth0 hardware adress 00:23:54:C1:F3:C7 mtu 1500 DHCP RARP > > --- > > > > Any ideas? > > > > OleA > > > > > > > > -- > Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asus EEe Box boot problems
I've just bought some Asus Eee Boxes to test in a SLX-network. So fare it has been disappointing. The boot stops after this lines: --- Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel. PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e000 is not E820-reserved PCI: Not using MMCONFIG Loading, please wait... IP-Config: eth0 hardware adress 00:23:54:C1:F3:C7 mtu 1500 DHCP RARP --- Any ideas? OleA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bifrost "follow me" printing
This may be of interest for larger Skolelinux schools. http://bifrost.projects.linpro.no/ Follow-me printing This is a project funded by Møre og Romsdal fylkeskommune (a county council on the west coast of Norway) to develop a "follow me" printing server for their Videregående schools (roughly equivalent to high school) with the following basic requirements: * Support Windows (XP and up), OS X, Linux * Use OpenLDAP (already in place with user objects for all users) * No domain login required * GPL Licensed * No need for N print drivers to support N different printers * Easy install on end-user stations The "follow me" part is specified as follows: 1. Student submits a print job to a print server (CUPS) to a generic print queue (will be named "followme"). These jobs are held and not printed. 2. Student walks up to a convenient printer and swipes a magnetic card 3. All the student's print jobs are sent to that printer http://www.hoven.ws/blog/2008/01/24/presenting-bifrost-follow-me-printing-and-printout-management/ OleA
moving home0 from old 2.0 box to new 3.0 box
What is the easiest and fastest way to move home0 from old 2.0 box to new 3.0 box? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whats wrong with ftp.skolelinux.org?
When I run apt-get update I get warnings like this: Could not get http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/dists/etch/local/binary-i386/Packages.gz wrong MD5sum -- Ole-Anders Andreassen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skolelinux wins the Scandinavian Free Software award
http://www.fscons.org/award Skolelinux wins the Scandinavian Free Software award Free Software Foundation Europe is proud to announce that the Norwegian project Skolelinux is the winner of the first Free Softwar Scandinavian Award handed out at during the Free Software Conference Scandinavia 2007 in Göteborg friday 2007-12-07. Skolelinux has under a long period of time worked hard to promote the use of Free Software as well as the use of free and open standards and file formats. By using low cost or spare hardware, schools and other public institutions can find a free and cheap IT solution made to meet their needs. Skolelinux captures a big part of the free software spirit; sharing and reusing. By focusing on schools, Skolelinux makes sure students, tomorrow's computer users, and decision makers, can grow up in a spirit of sharing, reusing and learning from family, friends and neighbours.
