Re: glibc_2.3.6-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2006-04-14 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 03:03:31AM -0700, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> Hi maintainers,
> 
> Sorry, but I'm going to reject this package.
> 
> 1) You're adding a new package directly to unstable, instead of first to
>experimental.

The first point has already been discussed, let's see other ones.

> 2) Glibc is currently RC buggy, and it'd really really be better to just get
>an RC bugfree glibc in testing asap without all kinds of new changes

Which RC bug?  The one that was triggered by a change in libstdc++ and
could have been reassigned to it?  Or the one about locales that became
RC today?

> 3) The locales-all package is 52MB, 275MB installed size. That's a factor 10
>more than the wishlist (!) bug requestiong the package says. To top this
>off, it's also arch:any, so multiplying the required archive space by quite
>a factor. I'd encourage you to ensure the binary blogs in question are
>architecture neutral, and also look critically at why this package needs to
>be so huge, for 'just' the compiled locales. There are 380 locales
>supported in unstable atm, and the text representations take 6.8M? An easy
>optimalisation is already making sure the 850kB or so LC_COLLATE files of
>utf-8 locales to be shared amongst each of the UTF-8 locales.

Fixed in SVN, here is the relevant changelog entry:
 * Preserve hard links when compiling the locales-all package, this reduces
   package size by a factor of 3.  Thanks to Jeroen van Wolffelaar for noticing.

> 4) You ask packages which previously depend on locales to now depend on
>locales|generated-locales, why not simply let locales-all provide locales?

Fixed in SVN, here is the relevant changelog entry:
 * Let locales-all Provides: locales instead of a virtual generated-locales
   package.  This is requested by Jeroen van Wolffelaar to allow this new
   package enter unstable.  Packages which Build-Depends on locales are
   likely to FTBFS if locales-all is installed, this dependency will be
   fixed in a later release.

Please let me know if something else needs to be fixed.

Denis


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glibc_2.3.6-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2006-04-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Hi maintainers,

Sorry, but I'm going to reject this package.

1) You're adding a new package directly to unstable, instead of first to
   experimental.

2) Glibc is currently RC buggy, and it'd really really be better to just get
   an RC bugfree glibc in testing asap without all kinds of new changes

3) The locales-all package is 52MB, 275MB installed size. That's a factor 10
   more than the wishlist (!) bug requestiong the package says. To top this
   off, it's also arch:any, so multiplying the required archive space by quite
   a factor. I'd encourage you to ensure the binary blogs in question are
   architecture neutral, and also look critically at why this package needs to
   be so huge, for 'just' the compiled locales. There are 380 locales
   supported in unstable atm, and the text representations take 6.8M? An easy
   optimalisation is already making sure the 850kB or so LC_COLLATE files of
   utf-8 locales to be shared amongst each of the UTF-8 locales.

4) You ask packages which previously depend on locales to now depend on
   locales|generated-locales, why not simply let locales-all provide locales?

--Jeroen



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Re: glibc_2.3.6-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2006-04-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 12:37:20PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 03:03:31AM -0700, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Hi maintainers,
> > 
> > Sorry, but I'm going to reject this package.
> > 
> > 1) You're adding a new package directly to unstable, instead of first to
> >experimental.
> 
> Is it a new requirement? I wasn't aware of that.

It isn't a requirement, but something I'd strongly advice for such an
important package like glibc. Anyway, this certainly wasn't the
strongest reason to reject, and I might not have rejected it if the
other 3 points didn't exist.

> More seriously, I can understand that for libc-bin, but not for package
> that you are not obliged to install.
> 
> I plan to add libc6-mipsn32 and libc6-mipsn64 soon. Should they also go
> thru experimental first?

As long as glibc is out of sync unstable vs testing and there are
multiple RC bugs in unstable, definitely. Currently amd64 in testing is
blocking on glibc being out of sync, so we'd really like to get glibc
into a testing-worthy version as soon as possible.

I don't have a strong opinion on this otherwise, it's more like "not to
unstable right now, in this form" than "must be to experimental first",
also taking into account the other issues you list with using
experimental for this.

I hope this clarifies my position adequately.
--Jeroen

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Re: glibc_2.3.6-7_i386.changes REJECTED

2006-04-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 03:03:31AM -0700, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> Hi maintainers,
> 
> Sorry, but I'm going to reject this package.
> 
> 1) You're adding a new package directly to unstable, instead of first to
>experimental.

Is it a new requirement? I wasn't aware of that.

More seriously, I can understand that for libc-bin, but not for package
that you are not obliged to install.

I plan to add libc6-mipsn32 and libc6-mipsn64 soon. Should they also go
thru experimental first?

If yes, please either allow two different versions of a package in
experimental or please remove glibc 2.4 from it.

Also note that experience prooved that almost nobody tests glibc packages
from experimental... Or at least they don't report the bugs they found...

Aurelien 

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