Re: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 06:13:28PM +0100,
 Anders Gjære [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 82 lines which said:

 The machine is running 2.2 kernel
 
 I don't think zebra is supported on 2.4.x kernels

Zebra is supported and works perfectly fine on 2.4.x.
 
Otherwise, see Russell's explanations. Zebra only deals with ROUTING,
the kernel does the FORWARDING. If forwarding is too slow, examining
Zebra will change nothing.

(We have two default-free BGP peers and twenty other BGP peers with
512 Mbytes of RAM - the bgpd process uses less than 60 Mbytes - and
the machine is far from being overloaded. And it forwards at 100
Mb/s.)


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RE: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Anders Gjære

The documentation on www.zebra.org doesn't mention anything about

Stephane: What kind of nic, and cpu/mainboard are you using?


Our future goal is too suport that we can route the whole 1gbps line,
but for now we only have 100mbit nic's, but the limit is the
zebra/bgp-router (26mbit)

Thanks
Anders Gjære

# -Original Message-
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# To: Anders Gjære
# Cc: Damian Gerow; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Subject: Re: BGP / Zebra
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# On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 06:13:28PM +0100,
#  Anders Gjære [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
#  a message of 82 lines which said:
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#  The machine is running 2.2 kernel
#  
#  I don't think zebra is supported on 2.4.x kernels
# 
# Zebra is supported and works perfectly fine on 2.4.x.
#  
# Otherwise, see Russell's explanations. Zebra only deals with 
# ROUTING, the kernel does the FORWARDING. If forwarding is too 
# slow, examining Zebra will change nothing.
# 
# (We have two default-free BGP peers and twenty other BGP 
# peers with 512 Mbytes of RAM - the bgpd process uses less 
# than 60 Mbytes - and the machine is far from being 
# overloaded. And it forwards at 100
# Mb/s.)
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Strange problem with cron running find

2002-01-15 Thread Craigsc

Hi debian community

Has anyone experienced find taking about 16 - 19 meg
of memory trying to update the locate db ?

Maybe corrupt or looping somehow ?

Kind regards
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moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread alexis bory

Hello,

I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes
of one of my customers from his old ISP to his
Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes.

I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine
wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure
a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I
mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS
get the rigth record.

If any of you know the place of a good doc about this
kind of operation...

TIA

alexis


That's not so much off-topic :
I plan to do the same thing with my own domains from my
old ISP to one of my Lovely-Debian-Made-Exim servers


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Re: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Russell Coker

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:38, Anders Gjære wrote:
 Our future goal is too suport that we can route the whole 1gbps line,
 but for now we only have 100mbit nic's, but the limit is the
 zebra/bgp-router (26mbit)

Are you talking about routing 1Gb/s or routing on a 1Gb/s network?  If the 
former then you should probably buy a box from Cisco, Foundry, or one of the 
other router vendors.  If the latter then Linux may work, but you'll really 
be pushing it (and you'll want the fastest Athlon CPU available).

I've yet to see a report of anyone getting more than 700Mb/s in lab 
conditions, let alone in real use!

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft

also sprach alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1224 +0100]:
 I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine
 wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure
 a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I
 mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS
 get the rigth record.

which MTA? you know, such info would help...

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Olivier MACCHIONI

At 11:47 15/01/02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes
  of one of my customers from his old ISP to his
  Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes.
 
 
  TIA

Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, 
with
exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it 
where
to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages.
With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure
about other MTAs, hope that helps.

Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already 
been delivered to the old mailboxes.

I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts 
and heterogenous mail storage systems.

If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to 
get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.

If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering 
could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on 
vacations and don't check their mails).

Good luck

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft

also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1317 +0100]:
 Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already 
 been delivered to the old mailboxes.

why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats?
then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be
delivered natively, and you are set.

 If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to 
 get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.

... and generate *loads* of traffic...

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread brettp

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote:
 Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, 
 with
 exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it 
 where
 to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages.
 With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure
 about other MTAs, hope that helps.
 
 Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already 
 been delivered to the old mailboxes.
 
 I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts 
 and heterogenous mail storage systems.
 
 If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to 
 get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.
 
 If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering 
 could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on 
 vacations and don't check their mails).
 
 Good luck
 
 Olivier

Hrm. Ahh. That's always fun. Now, If you've got time you could use mutt as
root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them to
the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where). Time
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On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 03:18:39PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
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Hi all!
   
Does anybody out there wished to get this list?
   
I think that this looks like some spam...
Or is that any kind of information that I don't have?
  
   It's spam.  I suggest using http://spamcop.net/ to report it.
 
  Perhabs there is somebody hating us and subscribed us...
 
  At least, spamcop is for open relay servers - not for spammails,
  where we are not sure, if this junk was made by jtsterlings.com
  or by someone else (like Billy for example).
 
 It makes no difference.  Mailing lists that allow anyone to subscribe anyone 
 else are also bad.  Such mailing lists used for commercial advertising can 
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Yes. Thats true. Every good list should control by confirming via email if
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On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 03:36:55PM +0100, Michael Blickenstorfer wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 03:18:39PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
  On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:50, Michael Blickenstorfer wrote:
   On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:22:17PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:28, Michael Blickenstorfer wrote:
 Hi all!

 Does anybody out there wished to get this list?

 I think that this looks like some spam...
 Or is that any kind of information that I don't have?
   
It's spam.  I suggest using http://spamcop.net/ to report it.
  
   Perhabs there is somebody hating us and subscribed us...
  
   At least, spamcop is for open relay servers - not for spammails,
   where we are not sure, if this junk was made by jtsterlings.com
   or by someone else (like Billy for example).
  
  It makes no difference.  Mailing lists that allow anyone to subscribe anyone 
  else are also bad.  Such mailing lists used for commercial advertising can 
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 Yes. Thats true. Every good list should control by confirming via email if
 the subscriber really want to get into it.
 
 I gonna report it in a few seconds.

So. Spamcop knows about this spam.

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Olivier MACCHIONI

At 13:53 15/01/02 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1317 
+0100]:
  Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already
  been delivered to the old mailboxes.

why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats?
then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be
delivered natively, and you are set.

Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the 
initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail 
servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible.

Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails 
(I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for 
example.

The only standards protocols you can really rely on are usually POP and 
SMTP which fetchmail can handle.


  If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to
  get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.

... and generate *loads* of traffic...

Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's 
life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data 
*has* to go from ISP A to ISP B.

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread alexis bory


 Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the
 initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail
 servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible.

the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes.
Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking
for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of
Notes)
before changing the MX could help.
But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while
so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and
fetch
the new one with their brand new domino client.

Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other
isp's stuff :)

Thank all

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Richard Bailey

I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a
quick script to do it
for a number of people.  I think you may need root access on the old mail
server for it to work.
I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had
added her to aliases to the new
address.

cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
newaddress@newdomain

She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.

I hope this helps

Richard Bailey
Tele-NET

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Subject: Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote:
  Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the
forwarding,
  with
  exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells
it
  where
  to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info
pages.
  With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not
sure
  about other MTAs, hope that helps.
 
  Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has
already
  been delivered to the old mailboxes.
 
  I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP
accounts
  and heterogenous mail storage systems.
 
  If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail
to
  get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.
 
  If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some
filtering
  could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are
on
  vacations and don't check their mails).
 
  Good luck
 
  Olivier

 Hrm. Ahh. That's always fun. Now, If you've got time you could use mutt
as
 root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them
to
 the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where).
Time
 consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment
:/

 Best of luck,

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote:

 cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
 newaddress@newdomain
 
 She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.

Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with
a From  line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent
should have properly escaped the From  lines -- and it should have
been only one single message.)

If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format
(mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new
mailbox.

Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file
and resend each email.

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Brett Parker

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:15:13AM -0800, Richard Bailey wrote:
 I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a
 quick script to do it
 for a number of people.  I think you may need root access on the old mail
 server for it to work.
 I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had
 added her to aliases to the new
 address.
 
 cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
 newaddress@newdomain
 
 She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.

Damn, I just tested it on my system and got a single message :(

Ah well, never mind.

Cheers,

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Michael Blickenstorfer

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:00:45AM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote:
 
  cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
  newaddress@newdomain
  
  She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.
 
 Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with
 a From  line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent
 should have properly escaped the From  lines -- and it should have
 been only one single message.)
 
 If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format
 (mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new
 mailbox.

Some kind of users changes their provider some times. As that, it
is possible, that you don't have access to copy mailboxes around.

And as users misconfigure their programs, there can be a lot of mails
in the box to copy each for each...

 
 Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file
 and resend each email.

This solution sounds good - if procmail is installed. We use sendmail
and will use qmail in 2nd part of 2002 - procmail can't be used at the
same time than the others are, I think.

I had this problem several times with my clients, too.

Allmost every mailclient can look at more than one mailbox today. I told my
clients to let the old box installed for a few day and let everybody
sending on this address know, that there is a new adress - like they
do with their letters, when they changes their home.

Some kind of vacation-programms could also be used as solution. I use
this, when somebody quits a workplace to inform that he no longer is
employed there... (For sure: the customer has to pay for it ;-) ).

Hope to help.

Regards, Michael

 
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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Kevin Conover

I don't know anything about lotus but ... do you know if it supports imap?
There is an imap copy program that copies mail folders from one imap
server to another.  This may do what you want:

http://www.tun.com/software/imapcp/

I haven't used it but I might need it in a few months, which is why it's
in my bookmarks.  If you try it please let me know if it worked. ;-)  Note
that I've seen other, similar programs.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, alexis bory wrote:


  Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the
  initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail
  servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible.

 the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes.
 Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking
 for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of
 Notes)
 before changing the MX could help.
 But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while
 so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and
 fetch
 the new one with their brand new domino client.

 Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other
 isp's stuff :)

 Thank all

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Re: Monitoring Apache traffic on a per client basis for web hosting

2002-01-15 Thread Michael Blickenstorfer

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 08:53:30AM +0200, Craigsc wrote:
 Hi 
 
 Can anyone suggest what we can do to monitor
 web traffic on a per client basis on our web
 server ?

Did you tried webalizer? (apt-get install... ;-) ).
If you wanna see, how it works - look at
http://www.kitnamor.ch/wwwstat/

Hope you can connect without password...

Regards, Michael

 
 Any suggestions would be welcomed :)
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Re: Monitoring Apache traffic on a per client basis for web hosting

2002-01-15 Thread Torsten Krueger

Hello,

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Craigsc wrote:

 Hi 
 
 Can anyone suggest what we can do to monitor
 web traffic on a per client basis on our web
 server ?

Have a look at netsaint ( www.netsaint.org ). It does 'real' http-tests,
e.g. it looks for /html in the output of a http-response. You can then
define thresholds for warning and critical.

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Re: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 06:13:28PM +0100,
 Anders Gjære [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 82 lines which said:

 The machine is running 2.2 kernel
 
 I don't think zebra is supported on 2.4.x kernels

Zebra is supported and works perfectly fine on 2.4.x.
 
Otherwise, see Russell's explanations. Zebra only deals with ROUTING,
the kernel does the FORWARDING. If forwarding is too slow, examining
Zebra will change nothing.

(We have two default-free BGP peers and twenty other BGP peers with
512 Mbytes of RAM - the bgpd process uses less than 60 Mbytes - and
the machine is far from being overloaded. And it forwards at 100
Mb/s.)




RE: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Anders Gjære
The documentation on www.zebra.org doesn't mention anything about

Stephane: What kind of nic, and cpu/mainboard are you using?


Our future goal is too suport that we can route the whole 1gbps line,
but for now we only have 100mbit nic's, but the limit is the
zebra/bgp-router (26mbit)

Thanks
Anders Gjære

# -Original Message-
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# To: Anders Gjære
# Cc: Damian Gerow; debian-isp@lists.debian.org
# Subject: Re: BGP / Zebra
# 
# 
# On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 06:13:28PM +0100,
#  Anders Gjære [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
#  a message of 82 lines which said:
# 
#  The machine is running 2.2 kernel
#  
#  I don't think zebra is supported on 2.4.x kernels
# 
# Zebra is supported and works perfectly fine on 2.4.x.
#  
# Otherwise, see Russell's explanations. Zebra only deals with 
# ROUTING, the kernel does the FORWARDING. If forwarding is too 
# slow, examining Zebra will change nothing.
# 
# (We have two default-free BGP peers and twenty other BGP 
# peers with 512 Mbytes of RAM - the bgpd process uses less 
# than 60 Mbytes - and the machine is far from being 
# overloaded. And it forwards at 100
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Strange problem with cron running find

2002-01-15 Thread Craigsc
Hi debian community

Has anyone experienced find taking about 16 - 19 meg
of memory trying to update the locate db ?

Maybe corrupt or looping somehow ?

Kind regards
craig




moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread alexis bory
Hello,

I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes
of one of my customers from his old ISP to his
Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes.

I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine
wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure
a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I
mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS
get the rigth record.

If any of you know the place of a good doc about this
kind of operation...

TIA

alexis


That's not so much off-topic :
I plan to do the same thing with my own domains from my
old ISP to one of my Lovely-Debian-Made-Exim servers




Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread brettp
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes
 of one of my customers from his old ISP to his
 Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes.
 
 I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine
 wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure
 a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I
 mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS
 get the rigth record.
 
 If any of you know the place of a good doc about this
 kind of operation...
 
 TIA

Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, with
exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it where
to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages.
With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure
about other MTAs, hope that helps.

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Re: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:38, Anders Gjære wrote:
 Our future goal is too suport that we can route the whole 1gbps line,
 but for now we only have 100mbit nic's, but the limit is the
 zebra/bgp-router (26mbit)

Are you talking about routing 1Gb/s or routing on a 1Gb/s network?  If the 
former then you should probably buy a box from Cisco, Foundry, or one of the 
other router vendors.  If the latter then Linux may work, but you'll really 
be pushing it (and you'll want the fastest Athlon CPU available).

I've yet to see a report of anyone getting more than 700Mb/s in lab 
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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1224 +0100]:
 I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine
 wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure
 a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I
 mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS
 get the rigth record.

which MTA? you know, such info would help...

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Olivier MACCHIONI
At 11:47 15/01/02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote:
 Hello,

 I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes
 of one of my customers from his old ISP to his
 Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes.


 TIA
Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, 
with
exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it 
where
to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages.
With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure
about other MTAs, hope that helps.
Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already 
been delivered to the old mailboxes.

I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts 
and heterogenous mail storage systems.

If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to 
get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.

If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering 
could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on 
vacations and don't check their mails).

Good luck
Olivier



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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1317 +0100]:
 Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already 
 been delivered to the old mailboxes.

why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats?
then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be
delivered natively, and you are set.

 If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to 
 get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread brettp
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote:
 Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, 
 with
 exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it 
 where
 to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages.
 With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure
 about other MTAs, hope that helps.
 
 Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already 
 been delivered to the old mailboxes.
 
 I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts 
 and heterogenous mail storage systems.
 
 If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to 
 get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.
 
 If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering 
 could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on 
 vacations and don't check their mails).
 
 Good luck
 
 Olivier

Hrm. Ahh. That's always fun. Now, If you've got time you could use mutt as
root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them to
the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where). Time
consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment :/

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RE: BGP / Zebra

2002-01-15 Thread Anders Gjære
It's a 1Gb/s network to the norwegian internet exchange (nix)

Do you have any tips on zebra/BGP and DDoS?
This has also been a problem, that under DDoS the router running
zebra/BGP gets extremly loaded.

Thanks
anders

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# On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:38, Anders Gjære wrote:
#  Our future goal is too suport that we can route the whole 
# 1gbps line, 
#  but for now we only have 100mbit nic's, but the limit is the 
#  zebra/bgp-router (26mbit)
# 
# Are you talking about routing 1Gb/s or routing on a 1Gb/s 
# network?  If the 
# former then you should probably buy a box from Cisco, 
# Foundry, or one of the 
# other router vendors.  If the latter then Linux may work, but 
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  It's spam.  I suggest using http://spamcop.net/ to report it.

 Perhabs there is somebody hating us and subscribed us...

 At least, spamcop is for open relay servers - not for spammails,
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 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:50, Michael Blickenstorfer wrote:
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Does anybody out there wished to get this list?
   
I think that this looks like some spam...
Or is that any kind of information that I don't have?
  
   It's spam.  I suggest using http://spamcop.net/ to report it.
 
  Perhabs there is somebody hating us and subscribed us...
 
  At least, spamcop is for open relay servers - not for spammails,
  where we are not sure, if this junk was made by jtsterlings.com
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 It makes no difference.  Mailing lists that allow anyone to subscribe anyone 
 else are also bad.  Such mailing lists used for commercial advertising can 
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 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 03:18:39PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:28, Michael Blickenstorfer wrote:
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 Does anybody out there wished to get this list?

 I think that this looks like some spam...
 Or is that any kind of information that I don't have?
   
It's spam.  I suggest using http://spamcop.net/ to report it.
  
   Perhabs there is somebody hating us and subscribed us...
  
   At least, spamcop is for open relay servers - not for spammails,
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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Olivier MACCHIONI
At 13:53 15/01/02 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1317 
+0100]:
 Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already
 been delivered to the old mailboxes.

why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats?
then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be
delivered natively, and you are set.
Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the 
initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail 
servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible.

Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails 
(I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for 
example.

The only standards protocols you can really rely on are usually POP and 
SMTP which fetchmail can handle.


 If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to
 get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.
... and generate *loads* of traffic...
Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's 
life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data 
*has* to go from ISP A to ISP B.

Olivier



Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.15.1555 +0100]:
 Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails 
 (I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for 
 example.

valid point, i missed that this was about lotus. should read more
closely (i am sorry for the poor fella btw...).

 Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's 
 life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data 
 *has* to go from ISP A to ISP B.

then, obviously, fetchmail is the right choice...

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread alexis bory

 Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the
 initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail
 servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible.

the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes.
Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking
for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of
Notes)
before changing the MX could help.
But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while
so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and
fetch
the new one with their brand new domino client.

Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other
isp's stuff :)

Thank all

Alexis




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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Richard Bailey
I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a
quick script to do it
for a number of people.  I think you may need root access on the old mail
server for it to work.
I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had
added her to aliases to the new
address.

cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.

I hope this helps

Richard Bailey
Tele-NET

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote:
  Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the
forwarding,
  with
  exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells
it
  where
  to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info
pages.
  With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not
sure
  about other MTAs, hope that helps.
 
  Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has
already
  been delivered to the old mailboxes.
 
  I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP
accounts
  and heterogenous mail storage systems.
 
  If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail
to
  get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones.
 
  If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some
filtering
  could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are
on
  vacations and don't check their mails).
 
  Good luck
 
  Olivier

 Hrm. Ahh. That's always fun. Now, If you've got time you could use mutt
as
 root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them
to
 the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where).
Time
 consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment
:/

 Best of luck,

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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote:

 cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.

Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with
a From  line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent
should have properly escaped the From  lines -- and it should have
been only one single message.)

If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format
(mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new
mailbox.

Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file
and resend each email.

  Jeremy C. Reed
echo '9,J8HD,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL 
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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Brett Parker
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:15:13AM -0800, Richard Bailey wrote:
 I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a
 quick script to do it
 for a number of people.  I think you may need root access on the old mail
 server for it to work.
 I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had
 added her to aliases to the new
 address.
 
 cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.

Damn, I just tested it on my system and got a single message :(

Ah well, never mind.

Cheers,

Brett Parker


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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Michael Blickenstorfer
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:00:45AM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote:
 
  cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s forward of your mail
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages.
 
 Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with
 a From  line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent
 should have properly escaped the From  lines -- and it should have
 been only one single message.)
 
 If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format
 (mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new
 mailbox.

Some kind of users changes their provider some times. As that, it
is possible, that you don't have access to copy mailboxes around.

And as users misconfigure their programs, there can be a lot of mails
in the box to copy each for each...

 
 Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file
 and resend each email.

This solution sounds good - if procmail is installed. We use sendmail
and will use qmail in 2nd part of 2002 - procmail can't be used at the
same time than the others are, I think.

I had this problem several times with my clients, too.

Allmost every mailclient can look at more than one mailbox today. I told my
clients to let the old box installed for a few day and let everybody
sending on this address know, that there is a new adress - like they
do with their letters, when they changes their home.

Some kind of vacation-programms could also be used as solution. I use
this, when somebody quits a workplace to inform that he no longer is
employed there... (For sure: the customer has to pay for it ;-) ).

Hope to help.

Regards, Michael

 
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Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another

2002-01-15 Thread Kevin Conover
I don't know anything about lotus but ... do you know if it supports imap?
There is an imap copy program that copies mail folders from one imap
server to another.  This may do what you want:

http://www.tun.com/software/imapcp/

I haven't used it but I might need it in a few months, which is why it's
in my bookmarks.  If you try it please let me know if it worked. ;-)  Note
that I've seen other, similar programs.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, alexis bory wrote:


  Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the
  initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail
  servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible.

 the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes.
 Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking
 for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of
 Notes)
 before changing the MX could help.
 But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while
 so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and
 fetch
 the new one with their brand new domino client.

 Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other
 isp's stuff :)

 Thank all

 Alexis




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