Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:30:24 +1100, Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:47:54PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: Thanks for the heads up. It looks like courier is the go. Actualy, it seems courier-imap and courier-pop pull in a few extra support packages including some sort of authentication daemon and it's own inet daemon. You don't need to use the autentication daemon if you dont plan to have high load on your system. On a decently busy system, authdaemon is a good thing to have. couriertcpd vaguely resembles inetd but can do other things. Better view it as general daemon code that would have had to be incorporated in the MTA, popd and imapd otherwise. I don't like that, but I clearly feel that courier is the least evil in the market of pop3/imap servers at the moment. I would have abandoned courier when I discovered this, except that courier+support packages still works out smaller than (uw-imapd|ipopd)-ssl+support packages. I might still abandon it though if the setup looks too complex/overkill for my application. If I had to choose between a package with an over-egoed author and a few additional daemons and packages with a more than questionable security history, I'd clearly choose the first of these two options. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:30:24 +1100, Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:47:54PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: Thanks for the heads up. It looks like courier is the go. Actualy, it seems courier-imap and courier-pop pull in a few extra support packages including some sort of authentication daemon and it's own inet daemon. You don't need to use the autentication daemon if you dont plan to have high load on your system. On a decently busy system, authdaemon is a good thing to have. couriertcpd vaguely resembles inetd but can do other things. Better view it as general daemon code that would have had to be incorporated in the MTA, popd and imapd otherwise. I don't like that, but I clearly feel that courier is the least evil in the market of pop3/imap servers at the moment. I would have abandoned courier when I discovered this, except that courier+support packages still works out smaller than (uw-imapd|ipopd)-ssl+support packages. I might still abandon it though if the setup looks too complex/overkill for my application. If I had to choose between a package with an over-egoed author and a few additional daemons and packages with a more than questionable security history, I'd clearly choose the first of these two options. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:47:54 +1100, Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When in doubt, I usually pick the smallest download. This is mainly because I live on the end of a slow link, but also because I'm a KISS, anti-bloat kinda guy. qpopper is about six times the size of the other popd's, how much extra can a popd have? It can have support for virtual stuff, authentication against different database systems (MySQL, LDAP and RADIUS come to mind here), APOP, SSL... Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:47:54PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:09:22AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:04:01 +1100 (EST), Donovan Baarda [...] I like Courier because it is one very flexible package and it does all variants that might be needed: pop/imap in both ssl and non-ssl. There is even an MTA which I have never looked at, though. Thanks for the heads up. It looks like courier is the go. Actualy, it seems courier-imap and courier-pop pull in a few extra support packages including some sort of authentication daemon and it's own inet daemon. I haven't set it all up yet, but I feel a bit nervous about installing fragments of a larger application that replicate functionality of packages I already have installed. I'm particularly disturbed by extra daemons. I would have abandoned courier when I discovered this, except that courier+support packages still works out smaller than (uw-imapd|ipopd)-ssl+support packages. I might still abandon it though if the setup looks too complex/overkill for my application. -- -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, including pgp key -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:47:54 +1100, Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When in doubt, I usually pick the smallest download. This is mainly because I live on the end of a slow link, but also because I'm a KISS, anti-bloat kinda guy. qpopper is about six times the size of the other popd's, how much extra can a popd have? It can have support for virtual stuff, authentication against different database systems (MySQL, LDAP and RADIUS come to mind here), APOP, SSL... Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:47:54PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:09:22AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:04:01 +1100 (EST), Donovan Baarda [...] I like Courier because it is one very flexible package and it does all variants that might be needed: pop/imap in both ssl and non-ssl. There is even an MTA which I have never looked at, though. Thanks for the heads up. It looks like courier is the go. Actualy, it seems courier-imap and courier-pop pull in a few extra support packages including some sort of authentication daemon and it's own inet daemon. I haven't set it all up yet, but I feel a bit nervous about installing fragments of a larger application that replicate functionality of packages I already have installed. I'm particularly disturbed by extra daemons. I would have abandoned courier when I discovered this, except that courier+support packages still works out smaller than (uw-imapd|ipopd)-ssl+support packages. I might still abandon it though if the setup looks too complex/overkill for my application. -- -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, including pgp key --
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:04:01 +1100 (EST), Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody mailserver task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? This is flame war material. Generally, I keep my hands off any UW software because the UW people are not very security aware. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? I like Courier because it is one very flexible package and it does all variants that might be needed: pop/imap in both ssl and non-ssl. There is even an MTA which I have never looked at, though. As opposed to Cyrus, Courier uses a standard mail spool (in maildir format) which can be accessed by third-party software for debugging purposes. The author of Courier has a quite difficult ego, but since Courier mainly works, you don't have to flame him too often. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:09:22AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:04:01 +1100 (EST), Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody mailserver task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? This is flame war material. I had no idea that it would be a touchy subject... my enquiry was purely innocent. I'm just in the process of setting up the mailserver part of a new woody box and was a little overwhelmed when I realised all the options. When in doubt, I usually pick the smallest download. This is mainly because I live on the end of a slow link, but also because I'm a KISS, anti-bloat kinda guy. qpopper is about six times the size of the other popd's, how much extra can a popd have? Generally, I keep my hands off any UW software because the UW people are not very security aware. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? I like Courier because it is one very flexible package and it does all variants that might be needed: pop/imap in both ssl and non-ssl. There is even an MTA which I have never looked at, though. Thanks for the heads up. It looks like courier is the go. -- -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, including pgp key -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:04:01 +1100 (EST), Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody mailserver task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? This is flame war material. Generally, I keep my hands off any UW software because the UW people are not very security aware. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? I like Courier because it is one very flexible package and it does all variants that might be needed: pop/imap in both ssl and non-ssl. There is even an MTA which I have never looked at, though. As opposed to Cyrus, Courier uses a standard mail spool (in maildir format) which can be accessed by third-party software for debugging purposes. The author of Courier has a quite difficult ego, but since Courier mainly works, you don't have to flame him too often. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:09:22AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:04:01 +1100 (EST), Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody mailserver task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? This is flame war material. I had no idea that it would be a touchy subject... my enquiry was purely innocent. I'm just in the process of setting up the mailserver part of a new woody box and was a little overwhelmed when I realised all the options. When in doubt, I usually pick the smallest download. This is mainly because I live on the end of a slow link, but also because I'm a KISS, anti-bloat kinda guy. qpopper is about six times the size of the other popd's, how much extra can a popd have? Generally, I keep my hands off any UW software because the UW people are not very security aware. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? I like Courier because it is one very flexible package and it does all variants that might be needed: pop/imap in both ssl and non-ssl. There is even an MTA which I have never looked at, though. Thanks for the heads up. It looks like courier is the go. -- -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info, including pgp key --
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail as outgoing mailserver. Regards, Philipp Zitiere Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Philipp Steinkrüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technik Oberberg Online Tel.: 02261 814240 Fax : 02261 814919 http://www.oberberg.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Quoting Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is [...] My 2c and others on Debian MTA's can be found here; http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=333 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. [...] Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody mailserver task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? There is also an imapd package which is even smaller. Then there's the courier imap and pop stuff, along with a host of others. When you throw in the ssl variants, you get even more, though the non-US versions seem to be lagging behind. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail as outgoing mailserver. Regards, Philipp Zitiere Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Philipp Steinkrüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technik Oberberg Online Tel.: 02261 814240 Fax : 02261 814919 http://www.oberberg.net
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Quoting Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, Davi Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is [...] My 2c and others on Debian MTA's can be found here; http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=333 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. [...] Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody mailserver task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? There is also an imapd package which is even smaller. Then there's the courier imap and pop stuff, along with a host of others. When you throw in the ssl variants, you get even more, though the non-US versions seem to be lagging behind. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information.
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Philipp Steinkrüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail as outgoing mailserver. Don't bother with qmail. It has a terrible license: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html It may be good software, but exim and postfix are fine as well. -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
From: Michael Boman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 04 December 2001 21:18, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: I'd go with postfix...You can set it up as a drop in replacement really for sendmail, it has the ability to use either mysql or ldap as backend and scales well of that I have seen. You definitively have to go with woody or sid, but as long as you run a dedicated server and dont have 4000 packages installed it tend to be pretty stable.. just dont upgrade it everyday, once a week is enough, and try and upgrade a test machine first to see that it dont turn into a veggie.. :-) It also is easy to set up to use either maildir or mailbox format, and you can then pick whatever pop3/imap server you want.. Regards Roger A You may also choose to backport sendmail or what-ever you want to use.. This is what I do when I want to run something new on a stable dist.. add an untable deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get source package cd dir-of-unpacked-source do repeat: check/edit debian/rules check/edit debian/control edit debian/Changelog to reflect your changes (for own pice of mind) do 'dpkg-buildpackage' go for a coffee/coke/smoke/beer/what-ever :until succees dpkg -i ../package.deb cross fingers I dunno what debian policy says about this, never read it.. but it works for me. Best regards Michael Boman Well, I will try postfix (sid) http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/postfix.html over potato. Davi.
Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Hi all, We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 However we want to add SMTP AUTH support which sendmail 8.9.3 does not supply. A friend advice me use postfix, which he says is easier than sendmail to configure it. However, the potato postfix version is too old. Anyway I have found a DoS alert about postfix 2005 today. It does not seem good yet. The potato sendmail version is old too and does not support SMTP AUTH (http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html). Must I use potato with some packages upgraded to woody?. Must I use woody instead of potato?. What is the state of woody as ISP distribution (emaildns server)?. Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility. It is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using the proper debian server, althought I think debian does not offer installation on a Journaling FS or a software RAID. Davi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Try using exim. Newer versions of exim (try the one from testing for example) support authentication; if you need an example config file just let me know. If you install a newer version of apt, you'll have the ability to specify a target (i.e. stable, testing, unstable) to get packages from; so just list both stable and testing in your sources.list and add apt::Default-Release stable to your apt.conf. Apt will get packages from stable by default, and with apt-get -t testing you'll get newer packages from testing. If I remember correctly, either testing or unstable offers a packages called kernel-image-2.2.20-udma100-ext3 which has ext3 support built in; upgrading your filesystems from ext2 to ext3 can be done on an active filesystem, without rebooting, so getting a journaling filesystem to work is easy. Regards, Maarten Vink -Original Message- From: Davi Leal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: dinsdag 4 december 2001 12:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server Hi all, We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 However we want to add SMTP AUTH support which sendmail 8.9.3 does not supply. A friend advice me use postfix, which he says is easier than sendmail to configure it. However, the potato postfix version is too old. Anyway I have found a DoS alert about postfix 2005 today. It does not seem good yet. The potato sendmail version is old too and does not support SMTP AUTH (http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html). Must I use potato with some packages upgraded to woody?. Must I use woody instead of potato?. What is the state of woody as ISP distribution (emaildns server)?. Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility. It is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using the proper debian server, althought I think debian does not offer installation on a Journaling FS or a software RAID. Davi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Hi , You can install qmail with apt-get with this servers, jsut add this lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.innominate.org/pub/pape/Debian potato unofficial innominatedeb-src ftp://ftp.innominate.org/pub/pape/Debian potato unofficial innominate qmail doesn't have security problem since a long time. ---François Bayart[EMAIL PROTECTED]+33 1 49 27 98 30+33 6 87 84 18 82 - Original Message - From: Davi Leal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server Hi all,We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal isduplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd(pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3However we want to add SMTP AUTH support which sendmail 8.9.3 does notsupply.A friend advice me use postfix, which he says is easier than sendmail toconfigure it. However, the potato postfix version is too old. Anyway I havefound a DoS alert about postfix 2005 today. It does not seem good yet.The potato sendmail version is old too and does not support SMTP AUTH(http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html).Must I use potato with some packages upgraded to woody?.Must I use woody instead of potato?.What is the state of woody as ISP distribution (emaildns server)?.Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility.It is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using theproper debian server, althought I think debian does not offer installationon a Journaling FS or a software RAID.Davi-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
I'd go with postfix...You can set it up as a drop in replacement really for sendmail, it has the ability to use either mysql or ldap as backend and scales well of that I have seen. You definitively have to go with woody or sid, but as long as you run a dedicated server and dont have 4000 packages installed it tend to be pretty stable.. just dont upgrade it everyday, once a week is enough, and try and upgrade a test machine first to see that it dont turn into a veggie.. :-) It also is easy to set up to use either maildir or mailbox format, and you can then pick whatever pop3/imap server you want.. Regards Roger A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 December 2001 21:18, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: I'd go with postfix...You can set it up as a drop in replacement really for sendmail, it has the ability to use either mysql or ldap as backend and scales well of that I have seen. You definitively have to go with woody or sid, but as long as you run a dedicated server and dont have 4000 packages installed it tend to be pretty stable.. just dont upgrade it everyday, once a week is enough, and try and upgrade a test machine first to see that it dont turn into a veggie.. :-) It also is easy to set up to use either maildir or mailbox format, and you can then pick whatever pop3/imap server you want.. Regards Roger A You may also choose to backport sendmail or what-ever you want to use.. This is what I do when I want to run something new on a stable dist.. add an untable deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get source package cd dir-of-unpacked-source do repeat: check/edit debian/rules check/edit debian/control edit debian/Changelog to reflect your changes (for own pice of mind) do 'dpkg-buildpackage' go for a coffee/coke/smoke/beer/what-ever :until succees dpkg -i ../package.deb cross fingers I dunno what debian policy says about this, never read it.. but it works for me. Best regards Michael Boman - -- Michael Boman Mobile: +65 96942601 750C Chai Chee Road Security Architect Phone : +65 243 6800 #04-01 SecureCiRT Fax : +65 441 5119 Singapore 469003 http://www.securecirt.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG: FA4E C6CC B73E 320E 3349 C64F 76CE 5F40 98AB 689C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8DNBUds5fQJiraJwRAj8iAKCBNpf4sS4q8Q8ONP9+flCUBJ4u/gCfbZw0 vdSz1kXaoIx3TTx1lzn1jQ8= =CJdS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Hi all, We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 However we want to add SMTP AUTH support which sendmail 8.9.3 does not supply. A friend advice me use postfix, which he says is easier than sendmail to configure it. However, the potato postfix version is too old. Anyway I have found a DoS alert about postfix 2005 today. It does not seem good yet. The potato sendmail version is old too and does not support SMTP AUTH (http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html). Must I use potato with some packages upgraded to woody?. Must I use woody instead of potato?. What is the state of woody as ISP distribution (emaildns server)?. Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility. It is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using the proper debian server, althought I think debian does not offer installation on a Journaling FS or a software RAID. Davi
RE: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Try using exim. Newer versions of exim (try the one from testing for example) support authentication; if you need an example config file just let me know. If you install a newer version of apt, you'll have the ability to specify a target (i.e. stable, testing, unstable) to get packages from; so just list both stable and testing in your sources.list and add apt::Default-Release stable to your apt.conf. Apt will get packages from stable by default, and with apt-get -t testing you'll get newer packages from testing. If I remember correctly, either testing or unstable offers a packages called kernel-image-2.2.20-udma100-ext3 which has ext3 support built in; upgrading your filesystems from ext2 to ext3 can be done on an active filesystem, without rebooting, so getting a journaling filesystem to work is easy. Regards, Maarten Vink -Original Message- From: Davi Leal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 4 december 2001 12:13 To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server Hi all, We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd (pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3 However we want to add SMTP AUTH support which sendmail 8.9.3 does not supply. A friend advice me use postfix, which he says is easier than sendmail to configure it. However, the potato postfix version is too old. Anyway I have found a DoS alert about postfix 2005 today. It does not seem good yet. The potato sendmail version is old too and does not support SMTP AUTH (http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html). Must I use potato with some packages upgraded to woody?. Must I use woody instead of potato?. What is the state of woody as ISP distribution (emaildns server)?. Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility. It is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using the proper debian server, althought I think debian does not offer installation on a Journaling FS or a software RAID. Davi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
Hi , You can install qmail with apt-get with this servers, jsut add this lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.innominate.org/pub/pape/Debian potato unofficial innominatedeb-src ftp://ftp.innominate.org/pub/pape/Debian potato unofficial innominate qmail doesn't have security problem since a long time. ---François Bayart[EMAIL PROTECTED]+33 1 49 27 98 30+33 6 87 84 18 82 - Original Message - From: Davi Leal To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server Hi all,We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal isduplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd(pop3) bind. I thought to use: Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) bind 8.2.3However we want to add SMTP AUTH support which sendmail 8.9.3 does notsupply.A friend advice me use postfix, which he says is easier than sendmail toconfigure it. However, the potato postfix version is too old. Anyway I havefound a DoS alert about postfix 2005 today. It does not seem good yet.The potato sendmail version is old too and does not support SMTP AUTH(http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html).Must I use potato with some packages upgraded to woody?.Must I use woody instead of potato?.What is the state of woody as ISP distribution (emaildns server)?.Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility.It is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using theproper debian server, althought I think debian does not offer installationon a Journaling FS or a software RAID.Davi-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear, Could you please delete this user's I don't work here anymore message, as we received about 7 of them allready the last 5 minutes. Problem is this: he gets a mail from an ISP mailinglist (debian-isp@lists.debian.org), sends an autoreply back to list, which ends up in his mailbox again. So he autoreplies on his own autoreplies, which means a nice loop PLEASE FIX ASAP ... Kind Regards, Frank Louwers Openminds b.v.b.a. ---BeginMessage--- Hi, As of 1 july 2001, I am not longer working for Tiscali. Please send your mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For personal matters please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Youri Albinovanus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
I'd go with postfix...You can set it up as a drop in replacement really for sendmail, it has the ability to use either mysql or ldap as backend and scales well of that I have seen. You definitively have to go with woody or sid, but as long as you run a dedicated server and dont have 4000 packages installed it tend to be pretty stable.. just dont upgrade it everyday, once a week is enough, and try and upgrade a test machine first to see that it dont turn into a veggie.. :-) It also is easy to set up to use either maildir or mailbox format, and you can then pick whatever pop3/imap server you want.. Regards Roger A
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email DNS server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 December 2001 21:18, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: I'd go with postfix...You can set it up as a drop in replacement really for sendmail, it has the ability to use either mysql or ldap as backend and scales well of that I have seen. You definitively have to go with woody or sid, but as long as you run a dedicated server and dont have 4000 packages installed it tend to be pretty stable.. just dont upgrade it everyday, once a week is enough, and try and upgrade a test machine first to see that it dont turn into a veggie.. :-) It also is easy to set up to use either maildir or mailbox format, and you can then pick whatever pop3/imap server you want.. Regards Roger A You may also choose to backport sendmail or what-ever you want to use.. This is what I do when I want to run something new on a stable dist.. add an untable deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get source package cd dir-of-unpacked-source do repeat: check/edit debian/rules check/edit debian/control edit debian/Changelog to reflect your changes (for own pice of mind) do 'dpkg-buildpackage' go for a coffee/coke/smoke/beer/what-ever :until succees dpkg -i ../package.deb cross fingers I dunno what debian policy says about this, never read it.. but it works for me. Best regards Michael Boman - -- Michael Boman Mobile: +65 96942601 750C Chai Chee Road Security Architect Phone : +65 243 6800 #04-01 SecureCiRT Fax : +65 441 5119 Singapore 469003 http://www.securecirt.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG: FA4E C6CC B73E 320E 3349 C64F 76CE 5F40 98AB 689C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8DNBUds5fQJiraJwRAj8iAKCBNpf4sS4q8Q8ONP9+flCUBJ4u/gCfbZw0 vdSz1kXaoIx3TTx1lzn1jQ8= =CJdS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
