Re: Install on many machines

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Wood

On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:35:57AM -0600, Gregory Wood wrote:
 Assuming that the machines are basically the same -- I have
 used Norton Ghost 2002.
 
 I loaded up Debian from CD, updated from the ftp site,
 installed and configured my base packages. Then created a
 ghost image (1. ghost works with lilo but not with grub 2.
 I've left out a number of steps - I have several spare hard
 drives and computers to work with) and burned it to a CD.
 
 As a test, I installed the ghost image on a couple of
 different machines. It takes less than 10 minutes to restore
 the ghost image. Next change the IP and host names and I was
 done.
[snip]

Don't forget the SSH host keys...

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Re: Install on many machines

2002-01-03 Thread Marcel Hicking

For our needs, FAI seems to be the more flexible solution.
Although the hardware is basically the same, it might
proof valuable to have several configurations to choose
from.

Anyone experience with FAI?

I've just set up a new woody machine and downloaded
the stuff. Still the docs get slightly confusing
after the very clear introduction.

For example, fai-setup throws *a lot* of dependency
warnings and complains about exim (which is not installed)

Cheers,
Marcel


Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 Jan 2002, at 10:02:

 On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:35:57AM -0600, Gregory Wood
 wrote:  Assuming that the machines are basically the same
 -- I have  used Norton Ghost 2002.   I loaded up Debian
 from CD, updated from the ftp site,  installed and
 configured my base packages. Then created a  ghost image
 (1. ghost works with lilo but not with grub 2.  I've left
 out a number of steps - I have several spare hard  drives
 and computers to work with) and burned it to a CD.   As a
 test, I installed the ghost image on a couple of  different
 machines. It takes less than 10 minutes to restore  the
 ghost image. Next change the IP and host names and I was 
 done. [snip]

 Don't forget the SSH host keys...

 --
 Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Install on many machines

2002-01-03 Thread Michael Wood
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:35:57AM -0600, Gregory Wood wrote:
 Assuming that the machines are basically the same -- I have
 used Norton Ghost 2002.
 
 I loaded up Debian from CD, updated from the ftp site,
 installed and configured my base packages. Then created a
 ghost image (1. ghost works with lilo but not with grub 2.
 I've left out a number of steps - I have several spare hard
 drives and computers to work with) and burned it to a CD.
 
 As a test, I installed the ghost image on a couple of
 different machines. It takes less than 10 minutes to restore
 the ghost image. Next change the IP and host names and I was
 done.
[snip]

Don't forget the SSH host keys...

-- 
Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Install on many machines

2002-01-03 Thread Marcel Hicking
For our needs, FAI seems to be the more flexible solution.
Although the hardware is basically the same, it might
proof valuable to have several configurations to choose
from.

Anyone experience with FAI?

I've just set up a new woody machine and downloaded
the stuff. Still the docs get slightly confusing
after the very clear introduction.

For example, fai-setup throws *a lot* of dependency
warnings and complains about exim (which is not installed)

Cheers,
Marcel


Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 Jan 2002, at 10:02:

 On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:35:57AM -0600, Gregory Wood
 wrote:  Assuming that the machines are basically the same
 -- I have  used Norton Ghost 2002.   I loaded up Debian
 from CD, updated from the ftp site,  installed and
 configured my base packages. Then created a  ghost image
 (1. ghost works with lilo but not with grub 2.  I've left
 out a number of steps - I have several spare hard  drives
 and computers to work with) and burned it to a CD.   As a
 test, I installed the ghost image on a couple of  different
 machines. It takes less than 10 minutes to restore  the
 ghost image. Next change the IP and host names and I was 
 done. [snip]

 Don't forget the SSH host keys...

 --
 Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
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 : :' !  Enjoy
 `. `´  Debian/GNU Linux
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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-28 Thread Gregory Wood

Assuming that the machines are basically the same -- I have used Norton Ghost 2002.

I loaded up Debian from CD, updated from the ftp site, installed and configured my 
base packages. Then created a ghost image (1. ghost works with lilo but not with grub 
2. I've left out a number of steps - I have several spare hard drives and computers to 
work with) and burned it to a CD.

As a test, I installed the ghost image on a couple of different machines. It takes 
less than 10 minutes to restore the ghost image. Next change the IP and host names and 
I was done.

Using a MSDOS diskette with Ghost, a ghost image, and a couple of ethernet cards, you 
can load over a network. My setup works better with CDs.

Let me know if I can help.


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On 12/27/2001 at 12:51 PM Marcel Hicking wrote:

Hi folks

I finally managed to convince our server guys to
go for Debian - instead of Redhat, which caused
lots of problems lately :-(

We are talking ~100 (maybe more) servers here.

Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable
CD and have predefined packages installed
automatically? What do you do to keep systems up to
date?

TIA,
Marcel


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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-28 Thread Gregory Wood
Assuming that the machines are basically the same -- I have used Norton Ghost 
2002.

I loaded up Debian from CD, updated from the ftp site, installed and configured 
my base packages. Then created a ghost image (1. ghost works with lilo but not 
with grub 2. I've left out a number of steps - I have several spare hard drives 
and computers to work with) and burned it to a CD.

As a test, I installed the ghost image on a couple of different machines. It 
takes less than 10 minutes to restore the ghost image. Next change the IP and 
host names and I was done.

Using a MSDOS diskette with Ghost, a ghost image, and a couple of ethernet 
cards, you can load over a network. My setup works better with CDs.

Let me know if I can help.


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 12/27/2001 at 12:51 PM Marcel Hicking wrote:

Hi folks

I finally managed to convince our server guys to
go for Debian - instead of Redhat, which caused
lots of problems lately :-(

We are talking ~100 (maybe more) servers here.

Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable
CD and have predefined packages installed
automatically? What do you do to keep systems up to
date?

TIA,
Marcel


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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Janssen

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:51:52PM +0100, Marcel Hicking wrote:
 We are talking ~100 (maybe more) servers here.
 
 Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
 the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable

Look at FAI: Fully Automated Installer.

I haven't used it myself yet (have to get around to doing it)
but after you setup a 'install-server' you can install all the other
servers by booting from network, floppy or install-cd. The other
machines will then automagically get their network-config and do a
automatic installation (Partitioning, network setup, package selection
and installation).

Afterwards you can have all servers kept up to date with a local debian
mirror and have them apt-get dist-upgrade from that server.

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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Janssen

Erm.. I think the URL for FAI was:
fai.sourceforge.net

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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:51:52PM +0100,
 Marcel Hicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 30 lines which said:

 Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
 the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable
 CD and have predefined packages installed 

apt-get install replicator

http://replicator.sourceforge.net/

Description: automate new computer installations in a networked site.
 Using a nfs-root filesystem and rsync, replicator allow
 you to non-interactively install a target computer
 identical to the model computer. It can handle differences
 in partitioning and hardware.
 .
 Designed for clusters, classrooms and wherever you need
 identical Debian boxes.
 .
 It's REALLY faster than normal Debian installation method.


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Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Marcel Hicking
Hi folks

I finally managed to convince our server guys to
go for Debian - instead of Redhat, which caused
lots of problems lately :-(

We are talking ~100 (maybe more) servers here.

Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable
CD and have predefined packages installed
automatically? What do you do to keep systems up to
date?

TIA,
Marcel


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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Janssen
On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:51:52PM +0100, Marcel Hicking wrote:
 We are talking ~100 (maybe more) servers here.
 
 Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
 the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable

Look at FAI: Fully Automated Installer.

I haven't used it myself yet (have to get around to doing it)
but after you setup a 'install-server' you can install all the other
servers by booting from network, floppy or install-cd. The other
machines will then automagically get their network-config and do a
automatic installation (Partitioning, network setup, package selection
and installation).

Afterwards you can have all servers kept up to date with a local debian
mirror and have them apt-get dist-upgrade from that server.

-- 
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E-mail: mark(at)markjanssen.nl / maniac(at)maniac.nl GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178
Web: Maniac.nl Unix-God.[Net|Org] MarkJanssen.[com|net|org|nl] SyConOS.[com|nl]


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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Janssen
Erm.. I think the URL for FAI was:
fai.sourceforge.net

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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Marcel Hicking
Sounds quite interesting!

thx, Marcel


Mark Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27 Dec 2001, at 13:15:

 On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:51:52PM +0100, Marcel Hicking
 wrote:  We are talking ~100 (maybe more) servers here.  
 Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling  the setup
 and later updates? Can I have a bootable

 Look at FAI: Fully Automated Installer.

 I haven't used it myself yet (have to get around to doing
 it) but after you setup a 'install-server' you can install
 all the other servers by booting from network, floppy or
 install-cd. The other machines will then automagically get
 their network-config and do a automatic installation
 (Partitioning, network setup, package selection and
 installation).

 Afterwards you can have all servers kept up to date with a
 local debian mirror and have them apt-get dist-upgrade from
 that server.

--
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 : :' !  Enjoy
 `. `´  Debian/GNU Linux
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Re: Install on many machines

2001-12-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:51:52PM +0100,
 Marcel Hicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 30 lines which said:

 Could anyone hint me to a decent way of handling
 the setup and later updates? Can I have a bootable
 CD and have predefined packages installed 

apt-get install replicator

http://replicator.sourceforge.net/

Description: automate new computer installations in a networked site.
 Using a nfs-root filesystem and rsync, replicator allow
 you to non-interactively install a target computer
 identical to the model computer. It can handle differences
 in partitioning and hardware.
 .
 Designed for clusters, classrooms and wherever you need
 identical Debian boxes.
 .
 It's REALLY faster than normal Debian installation method.