Re: Mrtg how?

2002-09-06 Thread Nathan
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 09:53 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:11, Nathan wrote:
Whatever you do, it will need to be based around RRDtool, because MRTG
generates the graphs every 5 minutes whether someone looks at them or
not, whereas the CGi in RRDtool only generates the graphs when you 
look
at them.
Does it generate the graphs for EVERY access?  Or does it just 
generate the
graphs a maximum of once per X minutes on access?

If it generates graphs for every access it won't do well when all the 
people
in your NOC have it on auto-refresh...
Yes indeed :) No, RRDTool's cgi is smart enough to only regenerate 
images when needed. It is configurable, so that if you want it to 
always generate a fresh graph, you can.

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Re: Mrtg how?

2002-09-05 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 02:53:33PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:11, Nathan wrote:
> > Whatever you do, it will need to be based around RRDtool, because MRTG
> > generates the graphs every 5 minutes whether someone looks at them or
> > not, whereas the CGi in RRDtool only generates the graphs when you look
> > at them.
> 
> Does it generate the graphs for EVERY access?  Or does it just generate the 
> graphs a maximum of once per X minutes on access?
> 
> If it generates graphs for every access it won't do well when all the people 
> in your NOC have it on auto-refresh...

Cricket (which does use rrdtool) caches the graphs.





Re: Mrtg how?

2002-09-05 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 03:11, Nathan wrote:
> Whatever you do, it will need to be based around RRDtool, because MRTG
> generates the graphs every 5 minutes whether someone looks at them or
> not, whereas the CGi in RRDtool only generates the graphs when you look
> at them.

Does it generate the graphs for EVERY access?  Or does it just generate the 
graphs a maximum of once per X minutes on access?

If it generates graphs for every access it won't do well when all the people 
in your NOC have it on auto-refresh...

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Re: Mrtg how?

2002-09-04 Thread Nathan
On Wednesday, September 4, 2002, at 08:58 PM, Elcio Mello wrote:
Hi people,
I have about 1000 interfaces snmp that I need to monitor their traffic.
I have ever try to use mrtg tool on a PIII 1GHz or a SUN, but it is 
impossible, the cpu can't do it, the processing is very hard.
I would like to know if there is a mrtg alternative, or if there is a 
magic to make the mrtg to do it.

Anyone use mrtg to monitor a traffic of a lot of interfaces?
Anyone can help me, please?
Use either Cricket or NRG (http://nrg.hep.wisc.edu/). I used NRG simply 
because it was easier to set up, and adding a host to it was as simple 
as adding a line to a config file ...

Whatever you do, it will need to be based around RRDtool, because MRTG 
generates the graphs every 5 minutes whether someone looks at them or 
not, whereas the CGi in RRDtool only generates the graphs when you look 
at them.

Nathan.
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RE: Mrtg how?

2002-09-04 Thread Laurent Le Moine
The solution is perhaps not to graph every 5 minutes ...
I found a soft based on RRDTool which collect data every 5 minutes but it
graphes and generate HTML only when you want (once a hour, or twice)
The CPU spent a lot of time making graph with GD, collecting datas take less
!
Have a look at MRTNK :
http://www.linux-sottises.net/software/mrtnk_0.9.1.tar.gz
Screenshots are available here :
http://www.linux-sottises.net/stats_mrtnk.php
The author is french but the doc are in english too
There is a drawback (?) : MRTNK doesn't have, as MRTG, all SNMP capabilities
...

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Hi people,

I have about 1000 interfaces snmp that I need to monitor their traffic.
I have ever try to use mrtg tool on a PIII 1GHz or a SUN, but it is
impossible, the cpu can't do it, the processing is very hard.
I would like to know if there is a mrtg alternative, or if there is a magic
to make the mrtg to do it.

Anyone use mrtg to monitor a traffic of a lot of interfaces?
Anyone can help me, please?

PS: I'm using GNU/Debian 3.0, kernel 2.4.19 and mrtg 2.9.17-4.


Thank you a lot.


Regards.

Elcio Mello.


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Re: Mrtg how?

2002-09-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 08:58:52AM -0300, Elcio Mello wrote:
> 
> Hi people,
> 
> I have about 1000 interfaces snmp that I need to monitor their traffic.
> I have ever try to use mrtg tool on a PIII 1GHz or a SUN, but it is 
> impossible, the cpu can't do it, the processing is very hard.
> I would like to know if there is a mrtg alternative, or if there is a magic 
> to make the mrtg to do it.
> 
> Anyone use mrtg to monitor a traffic of a lot of interfaces?
> Anyone can help me, please?
> 
> PS: I'm using GNU/Debian 3.0, kernel 2.4.19 and mrtg 2.9.17-4.

have a look at cricket and rrd.

cricket is a wrapper around rrd. rrd is by the guy who did mrtg. If cricket
is not quite right, then there are a heap of other frontends/wrappers for
rrd that might fit your purpose.


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Mrtg how?

2002-09-04 Thread Elcio Mello

Hi people,

I have about 1000 interfaces snmp that I need to monitor their traffic.
I have ever try to use mrtg tool on a PIII 1GHz or a SUN, but it is impossible, 
the cpu can't do it, the processing is very hard.
I would like to know if there is a mrtg alternative, or if there is a magic to 
make the mrtg to do it.

Anyone use mrtg to monitor a traffic of a lot of interfaces?
Anyone can help me, please?

PS: I'm using GNU/Debian 3.0, kernel 2.4.19 and mrtg 2.9.17-4.


Thank you a lot.


Regards.

Elcio Mello.