Re: Mailscanner vs. amavis vs. other

2003-12-07 Thread Ulrich Scholler
Hi,

On Fri Dec 05, 2003 at 11:08:35 -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote:
> try.  Has anyone compared amavis to mailscanner and come to a definite 
> conclusion as to one being better.  I know better is very subjective but I'd 
> still like to hear opinions.

Mailscanner has one big disadvantage when used with postfix:  It
accesses postfix queue files directly.  According to Wietse Venema, the
postfix author, postfix queues are considered a non-published internal
interface which is subject to change.  In an email to postfix-users from
Sep. 16. 2003 he says:

"MAILSCANNER MANIPULATES POSTFIX MAIL USING UNSUPPORTED METHODS.

 THEREFORE DO NOT USE MAILSCANNER."

(Wietse's capitalisation, not mine).

Regards,

uLI




Re: Mailscanner vs. amavis vs. other

2003-12-07 Thread Ulrich Scholler
Hi,

On Fri Dec 05, 2003 at 11:08:35 -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote:
> try.  Has anyone compared amavis to mailscanner and come to a definite 
> conclusion as to one being better.  I know better is very subjective but I'd 
> still like to hear opinions.

Mailscanner has one big disadvantage when used with postfix:  It
accesses postfix queue files directly.  According to Wietse Venema, the
postfix author, postfix queues are considered a non-published internal
interface which is subject to change.  In an email to postfix-users from
Sep. 16. 2003 he says:

"MAILSCANNER MANIPULATES POSTFIX MAIL USING UNSUPPORTED METHODS.

 THEREFORE DO NOT USE MAILSCANNER."

(Wietse's capitalisation, not mine).

Regards,

uLI


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Re: Mailscanner vs. amavis vs. other

2003-12-05 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 11:08:35 -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote:
> 
> We've had some experience with amavis over the last few years and while it 
> generally works it has an a tendency to lose the occassional message or just 
> continually requeue messages until their queue time expires and the message 
> bounces.  We're using amavisd-postfix.
> 
> I know there are also other variants of amavis such as amavis-ng that we 
> could 
> try.  Has anyone compared amavis to mailscanner and come to a definite 
> conclusion as to one being better.  I know better is very subjective but I'd 
> still like to hear opinions.
> 
> I'd like to eventually hook spam trapping into the filter (I think amavis-ng 
> does that) as well.

I have never used Mailscanner so I can't compare them.
I use Postfix with Amavisd-new (note "d-new") and I'm very glad.
As a plus, it cooperates with antivirus scanners and with Spamassassin.

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Re: Mailscanner vs. amavis vs. other

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Lamy
Fraser Campbell wrote:
Hi,
We've had some experience with amavis over the last few years and while it 
generally works it has an a tendency to lose the occassional message or just 
continually requeue messages until their queue time expires and the message 
bounces.  We're using amavisd-postfix.

I know there are also other variants of amavis such as amavis-ng that we could 
try.  Has anyone compared amavis to mailscanner and come to a definite 
conclusion as to one being better.  I know better is very subjective but I'd 
still like to hear opinions.

I'd like to eventually hook spam trapping into the filter (I think amavis-ng 
does that) as well.

Thanks!
We're using amavisd-new (in an LVS cluster), with clamav. It works 
fairly well, integrates spamassassin, and is able to fetch per user/per 
domain prefs from an LDAP or SQL DB. But it's kind of a resource hog, as 
every process eats about 20-25 MB after running a while. But I've yet to 
stumble into a better solution.

Thomas



Re: Mailscanner vs. amavis vs. other

2003-12-05 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 11:08:35 -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote:
> 
> We've had some experience with amavis over the last few years and while it 
> generally works it has an a tendency to lose the occassional message or just 
> continually requeue messages until their queue time expires and the message 
> bounces.  We're using amavisd-postfix.
> 
> I know there are also other variants of amavis such as amavis-ng that we could 
> try.  Has anyone compared amavis to mailscanner and come to a definite 
> conclusion as to one being better.  I know better is very subjective but I'd 
> still like to hear opinions.
> 
> I'd like to eventually hook spam trapping into the filter (I think amavis-ng 
> does that) as well.

I have never used Mailscanner so I can't compare them.
I use Postfix with Amavisd-new (note "d-new") and I'm very glad.
As a plus, it cooperates with antivirus scanners and with Spamassassin.

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Re: Mailscanner vs. amavis vs. other

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Lamy
Fraser Campbell wrote:

Hi,

We've had some experience with amavis over the last few years and while it 
generally works it has an a tendency to lose the occassional message or just 
continually requeue messages until their queue time expires and the message 
bounces.  We're using amavisd-postfix.

I know there are also other variants of amavis such as amavis-ng that we could 
try.  Has anyone compared amavis to mailscanner and come to a definite 
conclusion as to one being better.  I know better is very subjective but I'd 
still like to hear opinions.

I'd like to eventually hook spam trapping into the filter (I think amavis-ng 
does that) as well.

Thanks!
We're using amavisd-new (in an LVS cluster), with clamav. It works 
fairly well, integrates spamassassin, and is able to fetch per user/per 
domain prefs from an LDAP or SQL DB. But it's kind of a resource hog, as 
every process eats about 20-25 MB after running a while. But I've yet to 
stumble into a better solution.

Thomas

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