Re: Spam filtering on the lists

2002-04-05 Thread Bart-Jan Vrielink

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 10:13, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
 (Re: *SPAM* ()XX XX XX...)
 
 According to these headers contained in the message received from the
 list, SpamAssassin has correctly tagged it as Spam. So why was it
 forwarded anyway?

Because it might not be spam, but only a false hit ??
Because blocking mail by the list could be considered some kind of sensorship ??

BTW, because you used multiple X's in 3 different words, your mail also
scored 1.896 points for 'Uses words and phrases which indicate porn
(3)'. This is not very much (and is compensated by using a In-Reply-To:
header worth -5.029 points, so I did receive your message, but you get
the idea :)

I use spamassassin on my home and work mailservers (when I receive this
message back from the mailinglist I know it has been checked 4 times by
various spamassassins) and I really like it, but even spamassassin is
not perfect enough to use it to really block mail.

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Re: Spam filtering on the lists

2002-04-05 Thread Russell Coker

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:09, Bart-Jan Vrielink wrote:
  According to these headers contained in the message received from the
  list, SpamAssassin has correctly tagged it as Spam. So why was it
  forwarded anyway?

 Because it might not be spam, but only a false hit ??
 Because blocking mail by the list could be considered some kind of
 sensorship ??

Isn't sensorship the point of a spam sensor?  hehe

What's wrong with bouncing the message and asking the user to fix it before 
sending it again?

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Re: Spam filtering on the lists

2002-04-05 Thread David Bishop

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On Friday 05 April 2002 6:48 am, Russell Coker wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:09, Bart-Jan Vrielink wrote:
   According to these headers contained in the message received from the
   list, SpamAssassin has correctly tagged it as Spam. So why was it
   forwarded anyway?
 
  Because it might not be spam, but only a false hit ??
  Because blocking mail by the list could be considered some kind of
  sensorship ??

 Isn't sensorship the point of a spam sensor?  hehe

 What's wrong with bouncing the message and asking the user to fix it before
 sending it again?

I like the way it is, because it clearly marks what is (probably) spam, and 
all I have to do is put 1 rule in my mailer that moves everything with a 
subject containing **SPAM** to the trash.  However, it relieves the burden 
on the mailist admins to clear out the inbox, and lets through messages 
that are legit but would otherwise get bounced (like the XXX example).

Basically, this is the coolest approach I've seen a list take so far.  Mad 
props to whoever came up with the idea!

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