Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:05:05AM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> IMP, from http://www.horde.org
> 
> Packaged, in potato and woody.  Requires PHP, apache, minimal mySQL.

IMP works with postgresql too, which is far superior.

why use a toy database when you can run a real one that's easier to
administer, and is just as fast (actually, many times faster!) in
real-world usage?

mysql is blazingly fast in one particular situation: read-only
single-user access that only executes very simple SELECT queries. if
that description matches your needs then you might consider using
it...but when you need to do anything more complicated, it's much slower
than postgres.

btw, mysql's lack of transactions rules it out for any e-commerce
application...no matter what the mysql docs/faq tries to tell you, that
can not be emulated in the application layer.

craig

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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Craig Sanders

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:05:05AM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> IMP, from http://www.horde.org
> 
> Packaged, in potato and woody.  Requires PHP, apache, minimal mySQL.

IMP works with postgresql too, which is far superior.

why use a toy database when you can run a real one that's easier to
administer, and is just as fast (actually, many times faster!) in
real-world usage?

mysql is blazingly fast in one particular situation: read-only
single-user access that only executes very simple SELECT queries. if
that description matches your needs then you might consider using
it...but when you need to do anything more complicated, it's much slower
than postgres.

btw, mysql's lack of transactions rules it out for any e-commerce
application...no matter what the mysql docs/faq tries to tell you, that
can not be emulated in the application layer.

craig

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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Nate Duehr
I think it had to do with Address Book functions.  If I remember
correctly PostgreSQL allowed a little better address book functions. 

If the system's mostly for folks to read mail while out of the office,
either database would probably be fine.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 02:45:08AM -0500, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Nate Duehr wrote:
> 
> > AFAIK, works "better" with PostgreSQL than MySQL -- there's a couple of
> > features that don't with on Potato with a MySQL database that do on
> > Postgres.
> 
> I would really appreciate a pointer to which features.  Not that I am
> likely to change, as usage is low, and most staff use it only to read
> emails from cyber-cafes while travelling.  Just for info.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Nate Duehr

I think it had to do with Address Book functions.  If I remember
correctly PostgreSQL allowed a little better address book functions. 

If the system's mostly for folks to read mail while out of the office,
either database would probably be fine.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 02:45:08AM -0500, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Nate Duehr wrote:
> 
> > AFAIK, works "better" with PostgreSQL than MySQL -- there's a couple of
> > features that don't with on Potato with a MySQL database that do on
> > Postgres.
> 
> I would really appreciate a pointer to which features.  Not that I am
> likely to change, as usage is low, and most staff use it only to read
> emails from cyber-cafes while travelling.  Just for info.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> --
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> dotXtra Pte Ltd  Fax: +65 2275776
> Singaporeemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~
> 

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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Nate Duehr wrote:

> AFAIK, works "better" with PostgreSQL than MySQL -- there's a couple of
> features that don't with on Potato with a MySQL database that do on
> Postgres.

I would really appreciate a pointer to which features.  Not that I am
likely to change, as usage is low, and most staff use it only to read
emails from cyber-cafes while travelling.  Just for info.

Thanks


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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Nate Duehr
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:05:05AM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> IMP, from http://www.horde.org
> 
> Packaged, in potato and woody.  Requires PHP, apache, minimal mySQL.
> 
> Works.

AFAIK, works "better" with PostgreSQL than MySQL -- there's a couple of
features that don't with on Potato with a MySQL database that do on
Postgres.

(Saw it in the docs somewhere and switched databases to get the
features...)

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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-11 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Nate Duehr wrote:

> AFAIK, works "better" with PostgreSQL than MySQL -- there's a couple of
> features that don't with on Potato with a MySQL database that do on
> Postgres.

I would really appreciate a pointer to which features.  Not that I am
likely to change, as usage is low, and most staff use it only to read
emails from cyber-cafes while travelling.  Just for info.

Thanks


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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-10 Thread Nate Duehr

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:05:05AM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> IMP, from http://www.horde.org
> 
> Packaged, in potato and woody.  Requires PHP, apache, minimal mySQL.
> 
> Works.

AFAIK, works "better" with PostgreSQL than MySQL -- there's a couple of
features that don't with on Potato with a MySQL database that do on
Postgres.

(Saw it in the docs somewhere and switched databases to get the
features...)

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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Yes, using it for the last two years.

Loads are light, max of a user every day.  It is used by staff members when
away from their desks, or traveling.  I see no reason why it shouldn't
scale, and it handles mailboxes (mine) of over 6MB.

HTH

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- Original Message -
From: "marco frattola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> thank you very much for the suggestion.
> i guess you're using it (you say 'works').
> how much load can it handle?





Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
IMP, from http://www.horde.org

Packaged, in potato and woody.  Requires PHP, apache, minimal mySQL.

Works.

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- Original Message -
From: "marco frattola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> hi all,
> is there any solution for allowing web access to non-locally stored mail ?
> i mean, let's say i have a pop3/imap server, call it POP.
> i have another server, call it WEBMAIL. users connect to WEBMAIL and read
> their mail (that's fisically on POP). from what i read (or understood)
> courier
> could do this, but mail has to be stored on the same machine
(POP=WEBMAIL).
> is it so? are there other solutions (besides courier)?
> thank you very much for you time





Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Yes, using it for the last two years.

Loads are light, max of a user every day.  It is used by staff members when
away from their desks, or traveling.  I see no reason why it shouldn't
scale, and it handles mailboxes (mine) of over 6MB.

HTH

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- Original Message -
From: "marco frattola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> thank you very much for the suggestion.
> i guess you're using it (you say 'works').
> how much load can it handle?



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Re: web mail without local mail

2001-04-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

IMP, from http://www.horde.org

Packaged, in potato and woody.  Requires PHP, apache, minimal mySQL.

Works.

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Brainbench Linux MVP

- Original Message -
From: "marco frattola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> hi all,
> is there any solution for allowing web access to non-locally stored mail ?
> i mean, let's say i have a pop3/imap server, call it POP.
> i have another server, call it WEBMAIL. users connect to WEBMAIL and read
> their mail (that's fisically on POP). from what i read (or understood)
> courier
> could do this, but mail has to be stored on the same machine
(POP=WEBMAIL).
> is it so? are there other solutions (besides courier)?
> thank you very much for you time



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