Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: "You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Open Source - Linux and various BSD - operating systems running natively on your hardware system. " What does it mean _operate_the_Software_ ? ;) What about multi-tier applications, when connections to Sybase are made by linux-based-middle-tier only ? Is it allowed ? TIA PS - I know I should post this question directly to Sybase, but I'd like to know about your experiences with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
I've used it on a couple of development boxes and it ran very well for me. I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, and the speed at which it queried very convoluted SQL statements (subselects, left joins, etc.). It was rock-solid on the dev machines I was running it on. If only they'd open up the source completely, I'd move all of my web app development immediately to it from PostgreSQL/MySQL. My two cents- Eric Jennings Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: "You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Open Source - Linux and various BSD - operating systems running natively on your hardware system. " What does it mean _operate_the_Software_ ? ;) What about multi-tier applications, when connections to Sybase are made by linux-based-middle-tier only ? Is it allowed ? TIA PS - I know I should post this question directly to Sybase, but I'd like to know about your experiences with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
I would guess that their intention is to discourage folks from running it on big iron Sun / IBM boxes that have the ability to run linux or linux applications on top of another OS. I imagine they want you to pay them for that. :) - jsw -Original Message- From: Przemyslaw Wegrzyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: "You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Open Source - Linux and various BSD - operating systems running natively on your hardware system. " What does it mean _operate_the_Software_ ? ;) What about multi-tier applications, when connections to Sybase are made by linux-based-middle-tier only ? Is it allowed ? TIA PS - I know I should post this question directly to Sybase, but I'd like to know about your experiences with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:27:32 -0800, Eric Jennings wrote: I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:27:32 -0800, Eric Jennings wrote: I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. Thanks for the info... I'll have to check that out. Anybody else have positive/negative experiences with InterBase? Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Eric Jennings wrote: From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. Thanks for the info... I'll have to check that out. Anybody else have positive/negative experiences with InterBase? And, BTW, anybody already moved it into DEBs ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Eric Jennings wrote: If only they'd open up the source completely, I'd move all of my web app development immediately to it from PostgreSQL/MySQL. Me too. But I don't think it's possible in the near future. I would be very surprised, if they decided to do so... They don't even want to release free ODBC drivers :( agreed. Oh well... Wishful thinking I guess. =) Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Open Source - Linux and various BSD - operating systems running natively on your hardware system. What does it mean _operate_the_Software_ ? ;) What about multi-tier applications, when connections to Sybase are made by linux-based-middle-tier only ? Is it allowed ? TIA PS - I know I should post this question directly to Sybase, but I'd like to know about your experiences with it...
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 21:12:27 +0100, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote: Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I don't. I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: If you're concerned about the license, why not use a free DBMS? Personally, I'm very happy with PostgreSQL; it supports all the features I need (referential integrety, views, triggers, transactions) and has scaled up nicely for all the uses I've put it to. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
I've used it on a couple of development boxes and it ran very well for me. I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, and the speed at which it queried very convoluted SQL statements (subselects, left joins, etc.). It was rock-solid on the dev machines I was running it on. If only they'd open up the source completely, I'd move all of my web app development immediately to it from PostgreSQL/MySQL. My two cents- Eric Jennings Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Open Source - Linux and various BSD - operating systems running natively on your hardware system. What does it mean _operate_the_Software_ ? ;) What about multi-tier applications, when connections to Sybase are made by linux-based-middle-tier only ? Is it allowed ? TIA PS - I know I should post this question directly to Sybase, but I'd like to know about your experiences with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
I would guess that their intention is to discourage folks from running it on big iron Sun / IBM boxes that have the ability to run linux or linux applications on top of another OS. I imagine they want you to pay them for that. :) - jsw -Original Message- From: Przemyslaw Wegrzyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:12 PM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 Has anyone here experience with Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 on Linux ? I'm wondering, if it is a good choice for production enviroment... It has a little strange license: You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Open Source - Linux and various BSD - operating systems running natively on your hardware system. What does it mean _operate_the_Software_ ? ;) What about multi-tier applications, when connections to Sybase are made by linux-based-middle-tier only ? Is it allowed ? TIA PS - I know I should post this question directly to Sybase, but I'd like to know about your experiences with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:27:32 -0800, Eric Jennings wrote: I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:27:32 -0800, Eric Jennings wrote: I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. Thanks for the info... I'll have to check that out. Anybody else have positive/negative experiences with InterBase? Eric
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3 (fwd)
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:27:32 -0800, Eric Jennings wrote: I can't comment on the stability of the product within a production environment, but I was very pleased with the multi-level transaction system, From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. I'm reading it just now (little surprised), downloading sources on second console. Is it really free for production enviroments ? I'm thinking of two SQL servers right now - PostgreSQL or InterBase. I decided not to use Sybase for now (maybe I will for some future projects ?). I'll probably need BLOB support, which is a little weird in current release of PostgreSQL...
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Eric Jennings wrote: If only they'd open up the source completely, I'd move all of my web app development immediately to it from PostgreSQL/MySQL. Me too. But I don't think it's possible in the near future. I would be very surprised, if they decided to do so... They don't even want to release free ODBC drivers :(
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Eric Jennings wrote: From what I read today, InterBase (which is free nowadays; see e.g. http://www.ibphoenix.com/) has multi-level transactions. Thanks for the info... I'll have to check that out. Anybody else have positive/negative experiences with InterBase? And, BTW, anybody already moved it into DEBs ?
Re: Sybase ASE 11.0.3.3
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Eric Jennings wrote: If only they'd open up the source completely, I'd move all of my web app development immediately to it from PostgreSQL/MySQL. Me too. But I don't think it's possible in the near future. I would be very surprised, if they decided to do so... They don't even want to release free ODBC drivers :( agreed. Oh well... Wishful thinking I guess. =) Eric
