Re: XFT + qtr2.3 + Kde2.1 = WOW!!
Ok I use qt2.3 + kde2.1 and it rocks guys! thanks ivan ! the look is awesome with the true type fonts :) I'm building qt for unstable again with the qpainter.cpp file from qt-copy which I guess was the culprit for a nasty bug where the qt based app crashes if QT_XFT is not set. KDE in general shouldn't see this if but if you don't use the kde2 script (or haven't restarted KDE) apps will probably crash. anyways...once I get it built I'll upload it. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
ok...2.1 out the door
Hi all...I meant to send this note out earlier but work kept getting in the way. so... 2.1 is out...My machines were so bored that I even built QT 2.3.0-beta1 for potato. ...unfortunatly we caught a snag with the unstable version...not that I don't get beat up enough for my qt uploads... :) There are probably some apps missing right now (someone asked about xmmsarts).. I'll get to those...They should start showing up over the next couple days... For those of you who don't want 2.1 but want the old 2.0.1... the kde2 section is for you. I uploaded new kdelibs and kdebase today as well that should fix the noxim errors. Have fun. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Which qt-dev?
Now that KDE 2.1 final is out, which development (-dev) libraries should I download. I'm a bit confused as the output below shows: qt2 or qt2.2? Or should it be the new qt2.3 iirc? According to apt-cache search libqt2 the usual suspects are: libqt2.2 - Qt GUI Library (Migration package). libqt2-gl - Qt GUI Library (Open GL Version). libqt2-mt - Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded version). libqt2.2-dev - Qt GUI development headers, static libraries libqt2 - Qt GUI Library (runtime version). libqt2-dev - Qt GUI library (development version). libqt2.2-gl - Qt GUI Library (GL Version - Migration package).
Logo in KDE 2.1 Help
hi Ivan, the KHelpcenter looks for the logo logotp3.png in ./common/ but it is in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/[de|en]/common/! But anyway: Thanks for the great work!!! -- == Hubert Palme Bergische Universitaet-Gesamthochschule Wuppertal Computing Center D-42097 Wuppertal E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Germany) http://www.hrz.uni-wuppertal.de/hrz/personen/h_palme.html
unmet dependencies installing kde 2.1 on Potato
After doing an apt-get update apt-get upgrade I found I had several packages held back. These were: kdebase kdebase-libs konkeror konsole ktalkd They all have a dependency problem with kdebase-libs which is not installable becase: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install kdebase-libs Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done blah, blah, blah... Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase-libs: Depends: libsasl7 but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install libsasl7 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package libsasl7 has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package libsasl7 has no installation candidate What's this about? What is libsasl7? Anybody else experiencing this? -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Selling Soluciones Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r2 __
studio from kdestudio does not start
Hello, first thanks to Ivan for KDE-2.1 the debian way. One minor problem (I use potato): $ studio studio: error in loading shared libraries: libkdefakes.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I think, kdestudio has to recompiled against libkdefakes.so.3.0.0 which is installed by kdelibs3. Armin
Re: kdm problems (once again)
Peter Schnebel wrote: hi all... i still got problems with the kdm... it only works with the old kdm (2.0.1) version (i now use kde2.1final of course) the 2.1 version gives me the error error 98 binding socket address 117 any hints ?? its not to serious but i just cant configure kdm with the control-center... killall kdm /etc/init.d/kdm start solved problem for me. regards, -- Hasso Tepper KDE Estonian Team
noatun
hi, the noatun-2.1-final-1 package depends on qt2 but qt2.2 conflicts with qt2 -- KaLTaN Grabel's Law 2 is not equal to 3 - not even for very large values of 2.
New KDE packages ...
Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg -l |grep kde shows: ii kde-i18n-uk2.1-final-1uk i18n files for KDE ii kdeadmin 1.1.2-final-1 tools for adminstration written for KDE ii kdebase2.0.1-0.potato KDE core applications ii kdebase-doc2.1-final-0.po Documentation for Applications in kdebase ii kdebase-libs 2.0.1-0.potato KDE libraries amd modules for kdebase ii kdegames 1.1.2-2425 KDE games collection ii kdegraphics1.1.2-2425 KDE collection of graphics programs. ii kdelibs2g 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdelibs2g-dev 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (development files) ii kdelibs3 2.0.1-0.potato KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdemultimedia 1.1.2-2425 KDE multimedia package ii kdenetwork 1.1.2-final-1 KDE mail and news clients ii kdenetwork-dev 1.1.2-final-1 KDE networking libraries (development files) ii kdepasswd 2.0.1-0.potato A Password changer frontend for KDE ii kdesupport0g 1.1.2-final-1 mime, uuencode and QwSpriteField library - r ii kdetoys1.1.2-2425 some toys for the KDE ii kdeutils 1.1.2-2330 collection of useful kde utilities ii kdewallpapers 2.1-final-0.po Some wallpapers for KDE And finally, cat /etc/apt/sources.list gives: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian/ potato main crypto optional qt1apps Rhen I tried to reinstall task-kde-dev, but: * first: what package will be choosen between the following: task-kde-devel_2.0.1-0.potato5_all.deb task-kde-devel_2.1.3_all.deb as I type apt-get install task-kde-devel * then, I got the following error: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-kde: Depends: kformula but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages And trying to fix it with apt-get -f install, I have: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. ??? Strange. Any idea ? Thx in advance ... Rlep -- Molkoz mais je nariive po a passer de commence dans le but de passer des parametre au noyau Ariane je comprend pas ta phrase Molkoz bon je vois ke vous chercher tous a m'aider -+- Molkoz has left #linuxfr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - #linuxfr
Re: New KDE packages ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. They are not installed, rather than they cannot. The following packages have been kept back Exactly. Any idea ? apt-get install list of packages you want to upgrade -- Alessio F. Bragadini[EMAIL PROTECTED] APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 It is more complicated than you think -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925
Qt libs
I'd like to clarify the status of Qt (on i386) : - how stable is libqt-gl ? It was rather bad some weeks ago, but now ? Can I replace libqt by libqt-gl without problem ? - I have a testing system installed, with the potato debs for KDE 2.1. Can I replace Qt 2.3.0-beta for potato by the one for woody in order to have anti-aliasing ? Thanks, -- Thibaut Cousin email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://clrwww.in2p3.fr --- Teach me passion for I fear it`s gone. Show me love, hold the lorn. So much more I wanted to give to the ones who love me. I`m sorry. Time will tell (this bitter farewell) I live no more to shame nor me nor you And you... I wish I didn`t feel for you anymore... Nightwish(http://www.nightwish.com)
Re: Libqt2 requirement does not get fullfilled: unstable
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 02:51:30PM +0100, Matthias Wieser wrote: I wanted to update to the final version of kde, but it got hold back because most of the packages have one dependency, that is not fullfilled. libqt2 can not be resolved - package does not seem to be available. I am using unstable and use the austrian mirror and the official server. Thank you for looking into things :-) libqt2 is a new package, which replaces the libqt2.2 ones. New packages must be treated manually by the debian ftp masters, where updated versions of packages that are already in debian get updated automatically. So, the updates for the kde-* packages got in unstable, while libqt2 still sits in the incoming directory. So, depending on the workload of the ftp masters, I guess libqt2 will be in unstable today or tomorrow. If you want to try kde2.1 *NOW*, you can grab the libqt2 and related packages from a mirror of debian's incoming directory. You can find a link to it on the developer's corner on www.debian.org. However, keep in mind that you have to verify the gpg signature of packages taken from incoming yourself, since it might not have been uploaded by Ivan and might contain troyan code. -- Andreas Trottmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFT + qtr2.3 + Kde2.1 = WOW!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 February 2001 01:26, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: Ok I use qt2.3 + kde2.1 and it rocks guys! thanks ivan ! the look is awesome with the true type fonts :) I'm building qt for unstable again with the qpainter.cpp file from qt-copy which I guess was the culprit for a nasty bug where the qt based app crashes if QT_XFT is not set. KDE in general shouldn't see this if but if you don't use the kde2 script (or haven't restarted KDE) apps will probably crash. yes that's true however in order to remove XFT support just set QT_XFT to 0 and then konsole will work with standard fonts and won't look ugly if you unset QT_XFT then crash occurs as mentioned above regards C. - -- | Christophe Prud'homme, http://augustine.mit.edu/~prudhomm | ICQ UIN: 24560867 Alias: Jesunix | | He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom. | -- J.R.R. Tolkien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqbu24ACgkQoY+0C9S+FFAvygCgh1yJLVa+H7tURyfjGdlzKW9L 2VwAoIIcXIasJ2uA1wWfsj2jGVaRBTB1 =Gq5D -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: New KDE packages ...
In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:56:15 +0100. [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try apt-get dist-upgrade. That should get most if not all of those packages installed. At least, it did for me. Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelib s3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg -l |grep kde shows: ii kde-i18n-uk2.1-final-1uk i18n files for KDE ii kdeadmin 1.1.2-final-1 tools for adminstration written for KDE ii kdebase2.0.1-0.potato KDE core applications ii kdebase-doc2.1-final-0.po Documentation for Applications in kdebase ii kdebase-libs 2.0.1-0.potato KDE libraries amd modules for kdebase ii kdegames 1.1.2-2425 KDE games collection ii kdegraphics1.1.2-2425 KDE collection of graphics programs. ii kdelibs2g 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdelibs2g-dev 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (development files) ii kdelibs3 2.0.1-0.potato KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdemultimedia 1.1.2-2425 KDE multimedia package ii kdenetwork 1.1.2-final-1 KDE mail and news clients ii kdenetwork-dev 1.1.2-final-1 KDE networking libraries (development file s) ii kdepasswd 2.0.1-0.potato A Password changer frontend for KDE ii kdesupport0g 1.1.2-final-1 mime, uuencode and QwSpriteField library - r ii kdetoys1.1.2-2425 some toys for the KDE ii kdeutils 1.1.2-2330 collection of useful kde utilities ii kdewallpapers 2.1-final-0.po Some wallpapers for KDE And finally, cat /etc/apt/sources.list gives: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-fr ee deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian/ potato main crypto optional qt1apps Rhen I tried to reinstall task-kde-dev, but: * first: what package will be choosen between the following: task-kde-devel_2.0.1-0.potato5_all.deb task-kde-devel_2.1.3_all.deb as I type apt-get install task-kde-devel * then, I got the following error: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-kde: Depends: kformula but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages And trying to fix it with apt-get -f install, I have: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. ??? Strange. Any idea ? Thx in advance ... Rlep -- Molkoz mais je nariive po a passer de commence dans le but de passer des parametre au noyau Ariane je comprend pas ta phrase Molkoz bon je vois ke vous chercher tous a m'aider -+- Molkoz has left #linuxfr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - #linuxfr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] g -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any event, once it has occurred, can be made to appear inevitable by a competent historian. - Lee Simonson
KDM problem
Hi, when starting KDM, I get the following messages in the syslog: Feb 27 15:31:10 wrpc3 kdm[14955]: can't execute XBINDIR/xrdb (err 2) Feb 27 15:31:23 wrpc3 kdm[14964]: can't execute XBINDIR/xrdb (err 2) Seems to be, a variable is referenced incorrectly (where?). Since the upgrade, when sending a URL to Netscape, I get a new Netscape started (complaining about a Netscape allready running). When tring by hand: netscape -remote openURL(file://www/home.html,new-widow) netscape-remote: root window has no children on display :0.0 Can there be any coherence with the KDM problem? Thanks in advance, -- == Hubert Palme Bergische Universitaet-Gesamthochschule Wuppertal Computing Center D-42097 Wuppertal E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Germany) http://www.hrz.uni-wuppertal.de/hrz/personen/h_palme.html
Re: KDM problem
Oswald == Oswald Buddenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Feb 27 15:31:23 wrpc3 kdm[14964]: can't execute XBINDIR/xrdb (err 2) Oswald huh? which version of kdm are you using? this has been fixed before Oswald the frist 2.1 prereleases, possibly even before 2.0.1. ii kdm 2.1-final-0.potato1 The K Desktop Manager May be, an old bug has returned... :-} Since the upgrade, when sending a URL to Netscape, I get a new Netscape started (complaining about a Netscape allready running). When tring by hand: netscape -remote openURL(file://www/home.html,new-widow) netscape-remote: root window has no children on display :0.0 Oswald this is something i recently get, too. i have no idea, what the Oswald problem is ... :-( Hmm... very annoying... :-( Regards, -- == Hubert Palme Bergische Universitaet-Gesamthochschule Wuppertal Computing Center D-42097 Wuppertal E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Germany) http://www.hrz.uni-wuppertal.de/hrz/personen/h_palme.html
Re: New KDE packages ...
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 06:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] I got the same thing, so I tried apt-get dist-upgrade. That downloaded about 30 megs of stuff, starting with abbrowser and going right down the alphabetical list of kde packages. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
RENDER extension there/not there
Hi, I've just downloaded KDE-2.1 and the latest Qt from incoming, and installed those. This on an up-to-date Debian unstable system. I don't get anti-aliased font though, and while my XFree86.0.log contains the lines: (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy driver (**) Option Protocol IntelliMouse (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: IntelliMouse when I start the konsole from the konsole (:-)) I get: File /var/log/XFree86.0.log not changed so no update needed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/mcornils/tobi$ konsole Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display :0.0. QObject::connect: Cannot connect KAction::activated() to Konsole::(null) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/mcornils/tobi$ So, while the RENDER extension is initialized, konsole can't really find it. This is very strange... BTW, I'm using an ATI Mach64 Pro chipset as my graphics card. Does anyone have an idea why the RENDER extension isn't detected properly? (oh, and BTW Ivan, thanks a *lot* for the KDE packaging! You're doing a great job IMHO.) -Malte #8-) PS: a few versions numbers: rc libqt-dev 2.3.0-beta1-1 Qt GUI development headers, static libraries (not installed, but I don't need it do I?) ii libqt2-gl 2.3.0-beta1-1 Qt GUI Library (Open GL Version). ii libqt2-mt 2.3.0-beta1-1 Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded version). ii libqt2.2-gl2.3.0-beta1-1 Qt GUI Library (GL Version - Migration packa ii xfree86-common 4.0.2-7X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure ii xserver-xfree8 4.0.2-7the XFree86 X server
Re: noatun crashes?
El Mar 27 Feb 2001 16:07, Robert Guthrie escribió: I was curious if noatun was even installed on my system (most of kde was removed by dselect, and task-kde had unmet dependencies, so I'm reconstructing kde piece-by-piece), so I tried apt-get install noatun #noatun: Depends: arts but it is not going to be installed apt-get install arts #arts: Depends: libmpeglib0 (= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not going to be installed apt-get install libmpeglib0 # libmpeglib0: Depends: libogg0 but it is not installable #Depends: libvorbis0 but it is not installable apt-get install libogg0 libvorbis0 # Package libogg0 has no available version, but exists in the database. # Package libogg0 has no installation candidate Am I missing something in my sources.list entries? deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional deb ftp://ftp.stealth.net/debianstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free It has happened the same to me. The way to fix it is add the route for the 2.01 package list. Add: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional kde2 That will load the two libraries you need. Ivan, could you rebuild those libraries for KDE 2.1? However I still have problems. When launching noatun I get: ** Warning ** MCOP ObjectManager: Could not load extension libnoatunarts. ** Warning ** MCOP ObjectManager: can't find implementation for Arts::Equalizer. KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = noatun path = unknown Pablo de Vicente
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Dependancy problems in sid
I did an dselect update and then tried to upgrade to kde 2.1-final. dselect complains that all packages depend on libqt2 but libqt2 is not there. Maybe there is a type in the dependancies? It should be libqt2.2 right? Alkis
arts not upgradable to KDE2.1
Hi, there are some missing packages for installing arts: # apt-get install arts [...] Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: arts: Depends: libmpeglib0 (= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages hmm, what's that: I'll try it: #apt-get install libmpeglib0 [...] Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libmpeglib0: Depends: libogg0 but it is not installable Depends: libvorbis0 but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Those two packages I could not find. Alienating the rpms from the vorbis homepage gets libogg and libvorbis but the 0 is missing in the package names and apt does not recognize this. The packages from woody need a newer libc6 but I want to stick to the one that came with potato. An hints? Hendrik
Re: noatun crashes?
Robert, A serious problem in your source list. Where is SECURITY updates? This is so important. Add this line today: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free Run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dselect-upgrade Then get back to your problem at hand :) On Tuesday 27 February 2001 07:07, Robert Guthrie wrote: On Monday 26 February 2001 08:38, Trevor Phillips wrote: Subject sums it up, basically. I've just upgraded to Potato KDE2.1-final, and installed noatun (the apparently wonderful new media player), and it crashes when I try to run it (no app window shows at all - just get the kcrash window). My sidekick has the same problem on his PC too... Does this work for anyone? Is there a problem with the package? I was curious if noatun was even installed on my system (most of kde was removed by dselect, and task-kde had unmet dependencies, so I'm reconstructing kde piece-by-piece), so I tried apt-get install noatun #noatun: Depends: arts but it is not going to be installed apt-get install arts #arts: Depends: libmpeglib0 (= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not going to be installed apt-get install libmpeglib0 # libmpeglib0: Depends: libogg0 but it is not installable #Depends: libvorbis0 but it is not installable apt-get install libogg0 libvorbis0 # Package libogg0 has no available version, but exists in the database. # Package libogg0 has no installation candidate Am I missing something in my sources.list entries? deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional deb ftp://ftp.stealth.net/debianstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: New KDE packages ...
Right. It happened here too. after I ran my 'apt' lines, I then ran dselect which picked up the rest of the held back packages. all was spiffy then. :) tatah On Tuesday 27 February 2001 07:55, Bud Rogers wrote: On Tuesday 27 February 2001 06:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] I got the same thing, so I tried apt-get dist-upgrade. That downloaded about 30 megs of stuff, starting with abbrowser and going right down the alphabetical list of kde packages. -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
arts not upgradable to KDE2.1
Hi, there are some missing packages for installing arts: # apt-get install arts [...] Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: arts: Depends: libmpeglib0 (= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages hmm, what's that: I'll try it: #apt-get install libmpeglib0 [...] Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libmpeglib0: Depends: libogg0 but it is not installable Depends: libvorbis0 but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Those two packages I could not find. Alienating the rpms from the vorbis homepage gets libogg and libvorbis but the 0 is missing in the package names and apt does not recognize this. The packages from woody need a newer libc6 but I want to stick to the one that came with potato. An hints? Hendrik
Re: Dependancy problems in sid
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 12:07, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote: I did an dselect update and then tried to upgrade to kde 2.1-final. dselect complains that all packages depend on libqt2 but libqt2 is not there. Maybe there is a type in the dependancies? It should be libqt2.2 right? Alkis I'm a debian newbie myself so this is probably not the right answer but I got libqt2 from http://incoming.debian.org/libqt2_2.3.0-beta1-2_i386.deb installed it and then 'apt-get install task-kde' worked. I guess it just takes a little while to move out of incoming.debian.org ? -- Gavin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: noatun crashes?
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 12:47, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Robert, A serious problem in your source list. Where is SECURITY updates? This is so important. Add this line today: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free Run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dselect-upgrade Then get back to your problem at hand :) I only cut out the lines the seemed relevant. I assure you that the security updates are there.
Misc. Grumble...
Hot on the heels of the great rejoicing from Sid and Potato users, why isn't KDE 2.1 (or any KDE, for that matter) in Testing/main yet? -- -=|JP|=-This space intentionally left blank. Jon Pennington | Debian 2.4 -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Auto Enthusiast/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA| Proud Husband and Father _\_V
Re: New KDE packages ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Didn't do much for me either. Course, I'm running SID. :--) I'm dueling with a not here problem. [from dselect conflict res screen] xxx depends on libqt2 libqt2 does not appear to be available ROOT |griz| ~ pts/1$ apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: libmysqlclient6 The following packages have been kept back abbrowser amor ark kab kabalone karm kasteroids katomic kcalc kcharselect kchart kcron kdebase kdebase-crypto kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-crypto kdepasswd kdepim-libs kedit kernel-image-2.2.17 keystone kfind kfloppy kformula kghostview khexedit killustrator kivio kjots kjumpingcube klaptopdaemon kljettool klpq kmahjongg kmail kmid kmidi kmix knode knotes koffice-libs konqueror konquest konsole korn koshell kpackage kpat kpixmap2bitmap kpm kpoker kppp kpresenter krayon ksame kscd kshisen ksirtet ksmiletris ksnapshot kspread ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview kword libarts libkdegames libkmid libkonq3 secpolicy 1 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded. Need to get 744kB of archives. After unpacking 647kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] On Tuesday 27 February 2001 10:51, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote something to this effect: Right. It happened here too. after I ran my 'apt' lines, I then ran dselect which picked up the rest of the held back packages. all was spiffy then. :) tatah On Tuesday 27 February 2001 07:55, Bud Rogers wrote: On Tuesday 27 February 2001 06:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] I got the same thing, so I tried apt-get dist-upgrade. That downloaded about 30 megs of stuff, starting with abbrowser and going right down the alphabetical list of kde packages. - -- __ OutCast Computer Consultants of Central Oregon http://outcast-consultants.redmond.or.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 504-1388 Via IRC at; 205.227.115.251:6667:#OutCasts Via ICQ: UIN 138930 Failure is not an option...it's bundled with Microsoft -anonymous- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: jPKVKI1qDYbQjJanI8E9XbBMJw1e57MK iQA/AwUBOpwPtwhnWicv+0tKEQIHrgCg71acKKwp6FpI2g3IE3l+YZCBqxQAoPh8 KMaJcUFFhCuKl1+VFL7G52Ek =9SGI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Misc. Grumble...
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:18:13PM -0800, Jon Pennington wrote: Hot on the heels of the great rejoicing from Sid and Potato users, why isn't KDE 2.1 (or any KDE, for that matter) in Testing/main yet? rant this HAS been mentioned, talked about, and discussed before/rant QT does not build on Alpha and if you know how testing works this will be enough of an explanation. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: New KDE packages ...
I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back for this, someone needs to use dselect to find out what's not being upgraded. for sid/unstable users the problem is due to libqt2 being new. It has to go through the new package process which can take anywhere from 24 hours on up depending on how busy the ftpmasters are. I got messages today that they were installed. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug in konqueror's address toolbar?
On Wednesday 28 February 2001 04:43, Pablo de Vicente wrote: I am using KDE 2.1 + potato and I have experienced the following problem with Konqueror: If I type in an URL in the address toolbar, Konqueror goes to the URL and renders its content. Now, if I add a subdirectory, and type RETURN, Konqueror keeps going to the first page and clears from the URL I type the added subdirectory. Example: I type www.kde.org . Konqueror goes to www.kde.org and renders its contents Then I type www.kde.org/announcements , and konqueror clears the toolbar and shows www.kde.org. again. This same behaviour repeats if I cut the URL with the mouse and type in a new URL. However if I clear the address toolbar with the black arrow with the white cross inside I may type in a new URL and Konqueror goes to that URL and renders its content. I have filed a bug report to kde. Does anybody else have this same problem? I was writing the following before I got to read your post, which sounds similar. My problem concerns local files. But I am adding this to your thread. There seems to be something wrong with Konqueror 2.1's popup url completion. This is one of the options on the context menu (submenu Completion) that appears when you right click on the text entry field in the Location Toolbar. Other options are automatic, semi-automatic, none and manual. Under popup completion if I tab at a url, a list of possible files, folders or webpages pops up. I can then continuing tabbing until i reach the item I want. This is quite similar to bash's own name completion feature. Let's say I want to go to the folder /home/penguin/infobank/http. Beginning at the folder /home/penguin/, I press i and a list that includes /home/penguin/infobank/ pops up. I tab to select /home/penguin/infobank/. I further type h and soon I get /home/penguin/infobank/http. I press enter and I'm finally taken to the folder http.That's the predictable part. However when I delete back the http and press enter, instead of taking me to the parent directory home/penguin/infobank/, konqueror dumps me back in /home/penguin/infobank/http. In fact, I can't access any other subfolder of penguin without pressing the X button in the toolbar (thereby starting afresh). This was not the way konqueror behaved in beta 2. Is this a bug or is it just my machine?
Re: Bug in konqueror's address toolbar?
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 02:43, Pablo de Vicente wrote: Does anybody else have this same problem? Yes, it also manifiests if you type in a url, and then try to alter the fully qualified domain name. An example I came accross today is eq.atlas.com edit to: www.eqatlas.com konq changes it to: eq.atlas.com Some servers won't prepend the www to an address, so I was stuck attempting to type the correct url, and getting the bad one instead. Deleting the entire url and re-typing it fixes this, as you noted.
Re: Misc. Grumble...
Will you be taking on gcc as well, or just working the qt problem? are you on [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) I don't touch gcc other than apt-get install gcc no...gcc is crazy enough as it is...let alone on the alpha platform...a tad above my level of expertise. Someone else (Christopher C. Chimelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) is actually doing a ton of work trying to fix all the toolchain problems with the alpha port. He has been working on this for months (when it comes to qt at least). Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Misc. Grumble...
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:55:43PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: rant this HAS been mentioned, talked about, and discussed before/rant QT does not build on Alpha Bingo. Thank you for answering. -- -=|JP|=-This space intentionally left blank. Jon Pennington | Debian 2.4 -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Auto Enthusiast/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA| Proud Husband and Father _\_V
Re: Dependancy problems in sid
Alkis Evlogimenos wrote: I did an dselect update and then tried to upgrade to kde 2.1-final. dselect complains that all packages depend on libqt2 but libqt2 is not there. Maybe there is a type in the dependancies? It should be libqt2.2 right? Alkis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problems are resolved as far as i can see :-) Thanks for everything :-) mattHias -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /* ICQ#: 12597522 * / /\_/\ \ \_/^\_/ *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * WW WW *
Re: New KDE Packages
Title: Re: New KDE Packages I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] I got the same thing, so I tried apt-get dist-upgrade. That downloaded about 30 megs of stuff, starting with abbrowser and going right down the alphabetical list of kde packages. I am about to fire up KDE in a new virgin install of Stormix on a dedicated box ... I plan to immediately upgrade to KDE2. 30 megs is not a pretty thought since I am lucky to connect at 28.8 here in bad-copper-wire-country, rural Central Florida. What file should I have a friend download to a CD, and from where, which I may then run apt-get dist-upgrade on and have KDE2, please? Thanks! Doc
Re: RENDER extension there/not there
Malte Cornils wrote: (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER when I start the konsole from the konsole (:-)) I get: Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display :0.0. Sorry, this is obviously not a KDE problem (xdpyinfo doesn't show the RENDER extension either). I'll re-ask on the X list, large amounts of searching gave me some ideas what might be wrong. If anyone know the answer though, don't hesitate :-) -Yours Malte #8-)
Most fonts unavailable to KDE in KDE 2.1 final
Hi, I've just upgraded to KDE 2.1 final. I am running woody. System is AMD Athlon, Xfree 4, Nvdida TNT2 graphics card. The problem I am experiencing that only a handful of fonts are available to KDE and KDE apps. I have checked that the fonts are available to non KDE apps using xlsfonts and xfontsel. There used to be an app in KDE called kfontcontrol or somthing like that which controlled what fonts were made available but I think thats unecessary with KDE 2? I have made a screenshot which illustrates the problem. Note that the number of fonts available to xfontsel is some 10 times greater than that to the KDE font picker. (114 kb PNG) http://www.myinternet.com.au/home/ian/screendump.png Any help? Ian -- Ian Donaldson Senior Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us.
Re: New KDE Packages
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 17:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 30 megs is not a pretty thought since I am lucky to connect at 28.8 here in bad-copper-wire-country, rural Central Florida. I can certainly sympathize. I'm in rural Oklahoma, with about six miles of copper between my modem and the CO. I just started it at bedtime and let it run. It took about three hours. One thing that helped a bunch here was when I discovered irqtune. That almost doubled my throughput, from abysmal to just painfully slow. If you don't have irqtune, check it out. I've had masquerading set up for ages but the rest of my family used to grumble when they had to go out through my box. Now they ALL want to go out through me. If I drop my link without warning, somebody always squawks. I have to poll the house before I can disconnect. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: libsasl and potato
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: okI have moved libsasl from optional to main as it's dependant now. the update script is running right now which includes some powerpc updates. Ack, so that's why apt-get is failing on libsasl. koffice is being build current by Rick Cook for i386 and should be available later on. Sometime after this Rick is going to be creating some ISO's for .../main/[binary-i386|binary-all|binary-powerpc|source] When complete they will be hosted on kde.debian.net. :) Do you want our sources.list to point to ...net, instead of ...com? When I checked yesterday kde.tdyc.net was an alias for kde.tdyc.com ( 6 == 1/2 dozen ). - Bruce
Re: libsasl and potato
Ack, so that's why apt-get is failing on libsasl. yup... plus koffice is there now. :) When complete they will be hosted on kde.debian.net. :) Do you want our sources.list to point to ...net, instead of ...com? When I checked yesterday kde.tdyc.net was an alias for kde.tdyc.com ( 6 == 1/2 dozen ). doesn't matter...I won't kill kde.tdyc.com anytime soon...well, at least the hostname... :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
kdeinit
Does anybody know how to control what kdeinit loads? Does it use a config file (which would the sane thing to do, IMHO), or is everything hardwired in? There are several applications that I don't want loaded, but I can't figure out how to control that. If anybody knows of any documentation for kdeinit, that would be helpful as well. Thanks. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
Re: Koffice on i386 and upcoming ISO images
koffice is being build current by Rick Cook for i386 and should be For all those interested, new koffice packages for potato/i386 are there. Interestingly, at least on my powerpc, the 2.1-beta2 koffice is still working. as it should. In fact the official koffice release for KDE 2.1 is the one that was released for 2.0.1. My current intent is for it to be _one_ ISO image. It looks like it will all fit. Oh yeah, It should have: ../crypto[binary-i386|binary-all|binary-powerpc|source] as well. Since I have some powerpc packages to finish still, it will be Thursday or Friday before the ISO gets done. great. yea, I'll get getting updated non-core-kde apps taken care of as well prior to this. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
bugs with 2.1-final in sid
Ok folks...I plan on doing another sweep of uploads at the end of the week. (friday/sat/sund somewhere in there). (unless something MAJOR crops up) I'm not planning on doing the whole lot...just those that has bug reports against it that will be fixed by an update. I'm already starting on the packages so that I can verify bug fixes and whatnot...pulling from the 2.1 branch (which will eventually become 2.1.1) so..here's my request...you find a bug, talk about it here, verify that others are having the problem...verify it's not already been reported to the Debian BTS...then report it. *** ONLY FOR UNSTABLE *** If you can't verify that people usuing unstable/sid packages are having the same problem please don't submit a bug report. I don't want potato packages which are built differently to affect any of kde's entry into testing. (not that that will happen anytime soon..but you never know). So please test as much as you can as soon as you can. I don't want to do a ton of updates if I can help it..I want to do 1 more and then sit on it all until 2.1.1 comes out. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Ok, KDE2 won't start.
Hi, Upgraded fine to the latest Kde2 in Debian/unstable. However now nothing will load at startup. Tried a few config changes etc but nothing seemed to help. I have downgraded to the beta version just to get Kde running again :( Below is the errors file, any ideas anybody? Its like it can't find /usr/bin shrug WARNING: library=artsd.la: No file names artsd.la found in paths. QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 and type read KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kwin path = unknown DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20389' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kicker path = unknown DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20397' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20395' to 'kicker' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! WARNING: library=ktip.la: No file names ktip.la found in paths. KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = klipper path = unknown KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kwrited path = unknown DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20403' to 'klipper' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = ktip path = unknown DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20408' to 'kwrited' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20404' to 'ktip' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20402' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20416' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20419' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20422' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20425' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1 DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'kdesktop' -- Cheers, Rick
Re: Ok, KDE2 won't start.
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:05:03PM +1000, Rick Van Ruth wrote: Hi, Upgraded fine to the latest Kde2 in Debian/unstable. However now nothing will load at startup. Tried a few config changes etc but nothing seemed to help. I have downgraded to the beta version just to get Kde running again :( Below is the errors file, any ideas anybody? Its like it can't find /usr/bin shrug why do you say that? WARNING: library=artsd.la: No file names artsd.la found in paths. because of this? there is no artsd.la QSocketNotifier: Multiple socket notifiers for same socket 6 and type read KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kwin path = unknown DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-20389' to 'kdesktop' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! [..] ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1 DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'kdesktop' what version of libqt/kdelibs/kdebase do you have installed? -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
How do disable XFT in kde 2.1-final-1
Hi, I just don't know how to disable XFT support in kde 2.1-final-1. The script kde2 has export QT_XFT=0 in it but that doesn't seems to work. I needed to disable XFT support ATM because it screw up (read does not support) my Thai desktop. If I can use font-enconding tis620-0 with XFT, that would be lovely. Normal latin font looks beautiful. Chanop -- ,-. | May Debian be with you ~~ chanop| `-' pgp6fRR5b5QgS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ok, KDE2 won't start.
Hi, Upgraded fine to the latest Kde2 in Debian/unstable. However now nothing will load at startup. Tried a few config changes etc but nothing seemed to help. I have downgraded to the beta version just to get Kde running again :( Below is the errors file, any ideas anybody? Its like it can't find /usr/bin shrug why do you say that? WARNING: library=artsd.la: No file names artsd.la found in paths. because of this? there is no artsd.la No, because of KCrash: Application Name = kwin path = unknown This part ^^^ I also tried using an older version of Kdm and actually got part of the desktop (backdrop and icons) to load. That startkde had more listed in LD_BIND_NOW what version of libqt/kdelibs/kdebase do you have installed? Well I've downgraded back to beta - but here's the list of packages listed in /var/cache/apt/archives that were installed: abbrowser_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb ark_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb arts_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kab_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kcalc_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kcharselect_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kcpuload_1.90-1_i386.deb kcron_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdebase-crypto_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdebase-doc_4%3a2.1-final-1_all.deb kdebase-libs_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdebase_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdelibs3-crypto_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdelibs3_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdepim-libs_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kdewallpapers_4%3a2.1-final-1_all.deb kdm_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kedit_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kfilereplace_0.6.0-5_i386.deb kfind_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kfract_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb khexedit_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kiconedit_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kmahjongg_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kmail_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kmidi_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kmix_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kmoon_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb knetfilter_2.0.4-2_i386.deb knetload_1.91-1_i386.deb konqueror_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb konsole_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb korganizer_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kpackage_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kpaint_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kpixmap2bitmap_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb ksnapshot_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb ksysctrl_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb ksysv_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kuser_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kview_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb kworldwatch_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb libarts-alsa_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb libarts-mpeglib_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb libarts_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb libconfig-inifiles-perl_2.14-1_all.deb libkmid-alsa_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb libkonq3_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb libmimelib1_2.1-final-1_i386.deb libnetpbm9_2%3a9.10-1_i386.deb libqt2.2_2%3a2.3.0-beta1-2_i386.deb libqt2_2%3a2.3.0-beta1-2_i386.deb lilo-config_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb netpbm-nonfree_2%3a9.10-1_i386.deb netpbm_2%3a9.10-1_i386.deb noatun_4%3a2.1-final-1_i386.deb -- Cheers, Rick
