Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
El Mié 14 Mar 2001 00:54, Bud Rogers escribió: I just did an to apt-get update. It doesn't seem to be responding. Why don't we try to put our files in sourceforge, or in Debian or in KDE..? Maybe i don't think it is a license problem... does it? -- Un saludo, Jaime Robles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coordinador KDE-ES http://www.kde.org/es
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
I just did an to apt-get update. It doesn't seem to be responding. Why don't we try to put our files in sourceforge, or in Debian or in KDE..? ... 2. Debian. where would we put it? The QT1/KDE1 stuff would not be allowed in the first place due to the licensing issues. It *can't* go into the potato distribution. No place else allows rsync and ftp let alone allowing anyone but myself access to it. Why not people.debian.org/~rkrusty/ ? at least for potato versions of what is in unstable. ... It's not perfect, but better than oh well, if it comes to that. my question is why? The whole point of all of this is where to put the master site. We already have a dozen mirror sites that currently have all of the files anyone would need. If we end up in the oh well situation then I will throw updates on people.debian.org, but there's no point in putting anything other thant that up there. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 11:51, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: my question is why? The whole point of all of this is where to put the master site. We already have a dozen mirror sites that currently have all of the files anyone would need. If we end up in the oh well situation then I will throw updates on people.debian.org, but there's no point in putting anything other thant that up there. Ivan First we need to have a access to a list of mirrors. Secondly I don't know if my mirror is broken or not put the file Packages is missing (only a Packages.gz is available); because of that I cannot use dselect to update for the KDE packages. Or I'm using an old version of apt/dselect tools? Sincerly, -- Serge Robyns RCS (Robyns Consulting Services) 139, avenue De Fre 1180 Uccle (Brussels) - Belgium phone: +32 (477) 29.66.87 -+- fax: +1 (801) 469-9358 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.wanadoo.be/rc.s/
master kde.debian.net site requirements
Common question...what does it take to handle the master site. disk space: web site + ftp archive (currently) = 1038536 (1gig +/-) pc req's: the old kde.debian.net box was a p200 with 128MB RAM bandwidth: not sure. :) But being the master site we can lock it down to only allow rsync/ftp/http from other mirrors. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Broken kde (arrgh..)
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:45PM +0100, Douglas Eck wrote: HEPPP! I let dselect auto-upgrade everything on my sid box (kernel 2.4.1) and, voila, broke kde. So I deleted task-kde and kdebase and let dselect delete all packages with dependancies, wiping out kde. Then I did an apt-get install task-kde and rinstalled everything. Now, kdm starts, gives me a login, starts KDE. KDE gets through all 7(?) of it's pretty blinking icons and then I get a gray screen. Here's the output when I run startx startx.log. (I clipped the Xserver stuff and just included the KDE stuff). ANY IDEAS? yea...read the archives of debian-kde before spamming all of us. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Broken kde (arrgh..)
Sorry Ivan. Not trying to spam the world. I did look through March and February and must have missed it. I figured it was something recent because I had a working KDE2 box, oh, 20 minutes ago... Care to give a hint? -D Dr. Douglas Eck, http://www.idsia.ch/~doug Istituto Dalle Molle di Studi sull'Intelligenza Artificiale (IDSIA) Neural Networks, Rhythm Perception and Production, Dynamical Systems On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:45PM +0100, Douglas Eck wrote: HEPPP! I let dselect auto-upgrade everything on my sid box (kernel 2.4.1) and, voila, broke kde. So I deleted task-kde and kdebase and let dselect delete all packages with dependancies, wiping out kde. Then I did an apt-get install task-kde and rinstalled everything. Now, kdm starts, gives me a login, starts KDE. KDE gets through all 7(?) of it's pretty blinking icons and then I get a gray screen. Here's the output when I run startx startx.log. (I clipped the Xserver stuff and just included the KDE stuff). ANY IDEAS? yea...read the archives of debian-kde before spamming all of us. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken kde (arrgh..)
Ivan, I found the thread using DCOP as a search. I'll figure it out. Cheers, Doug Dr. Douglas Eck, http://www.idsia.ch/~doug Istituto Dalle Molle di Studi sull'Intelligenza Artificiale (IDSIA) Neural Networks, Rhythm Perception and Production, Dynamical Systems On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:45PM +0100, Douglas Eck wrote: HEPPP! I let dselect auto-upgrade everything on my sid box (kernel 2.4.1) and, voila, broke kde. So I deleted task-kde and kdebase and let dselect delete all packages with dependancies, wiping out kde. Then I did an apt-get install task-kde and rinstalled everything. Now, kdm starts, gives me a login, starts KDE. KDE gets through all 7(?) of it's pretty blinking icons and then I get a gray screen. Here's the output when I run startx startx.log. (I clipped the Xserver stuff and just included the KDE stuff). ANY IDEAS? yea...read the archives of debian-kde before spamming all of us. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken kde (arrgh..)
hmmm...All in March. Titled: last libfreetype6 == kde2 death in unstable http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde-0103/msg00364.html Titled: kde startup problem http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde-0103/msg00353.html Titled: unstable Debian KDE issues http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde-0103/msg00314.html Titled: Stange kde 2.1 behavior http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde-0103/msg00287.html On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:21:02PM +0100, Douglas Eck wrote: Sorry Ivan. Not trying to spam the world. I did look through March and February and must have missed it. I figured it was something recent because I had a working KDE2 box, oh, 20 minutes ago... Care to give a hint? -D Dr. Douglas Eck, http://www.idsia.ch/~doug Istituto Dalle Molle di Studi sull'Intelligenza Artificiale (IDSIA) Neural Networks, Rhythm Perception and Production, Dynamical Systems On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:14:45PM +0100, Douglas Eck wrote: HEPPP! I let dselect auto-upgrade everything on my sid box (kernel 2.4.1) and, voila, broke kde. So I deleted task-kde and kdebase and let dselect delete all packages with dependancies, wiping out kde. Then I did an apt-get install task-kde and rinstalled everything. Now, kdm starts, gives me a login, starts KDE. KDE gets through all 7(?) of it's pretty blinking icons and then I get a gray screen. Here's the output when I run startx startx.log. (I clipped the Xserver stuff and just included the KDE stuff). ANY IDEAS? yea...read the archives of debian-kde before spamming all of us. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Upgraded kdm - lost locale
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
try adding
auth required pam_env.so
to your /etc/pam.d/kde file
Didn't help. I tried to add envfile=/etc/environment which didn't help
either. Nor did adding
LANGDEFAULT=fi_FI
LANGDEFAULT=${LANG}
LANGDEFAULT=OVERRIDE=fi_FI
LANGDEFAULT=OVERRIDE=${LANG}
in /etc/security/pam_env.conf -file.
Nothing helped tough I occasionally got messages from pam_env.so where it
said it had deleted LANG -setting.
New ideas?
-perttu-
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
Have the mantainers of the mirrors been notified about this, or are we expecting them to read the list? -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Selling Soluciones Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r2 __
Click to minimize
Another funny bug: it seems you can no longer (was working in 2.0) minimize a window by clicking its name on the panel, unless the window is the focused window.
Re: Kicker bug?
one of the latest upgrades (Unstable, Sid, currently running kdebase_2.1.0.1-1_i386) seems to have corrupted my KDE2 panel. Every time I choose Configure Panel/Add/Applet the panel crashes and restarts. Just curious if anyone can reproduce this behavior? I'm getting the same thing on my Progeny Woody/testing-based system. Also, the icons for netscape and jpilot that I added to my panel have been replaced wiht the default cog again. Other than that, everything else seems to be running fine. I tried installing the libfreetype6 from Ivan's link, but that made no difference and my next apt-get upgrade re-installed the new one from my Progeny CD. Ivan's recommended trying the KDE/QT stuff from sid on woody systems, but I'm nervous about pointing to unstable. I was bitten quite badly a few times when unstable=potato. The bottom line for me is: I like Ivan's KDE stuff. Progeny provides KDE2.0 but it is mostly broken. This is why I chanced Ivan's stuff again. Being an official Beta tester for Progeny, I don't want to stray too far from Progeny's system. But I do want KDE2.1. Has anyone got much experience with this type of system testing with unstable KDE? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to Linux, so when things start to go pear-shaped with my system it quickly degrades on me. Idealy I would like to keep working with Ivan's stuff on my Progeny system but given the choice of down-grading back to the Progeny KDE or trying to live on the bleeding edge of unstable, I would probably be safer down-grading. Anyone got some constructive comments? Cheers, John Gay
Printers in konqueror
Somewhere along all the recent changes to kde2 I have lost the ability to print from konqueror. I am using the CUPS printing system and have no difficulty printing a test page from the web admin interface, but it is impossible to print from any other application. Before when the printer worked in cups it worked everywhere. Now it doesn't. Also I note that whenever I open a qtcups in kde and then close the window, the process remains. This occurs for each instance of openning a qtcups window. This means that I sometimes have 3 or more qtcups processes running. I have looked through the documentation for configuring konqueror but htere was no help there. Any ideas? John Davidson
Re: Click to minimize
Actually you can. It's not consistant. When my box boots up, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is autostarted. sometimes it will minimize others it won't. if you right click, then you can minimize that way then the next time it works just fine! It's one of the really fun bugs :) On Wednesday 14 March 2001 08:13, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: Another funny bug: it seems you can no longer (was working in 2.0) minimize a window by clicking its name on the panel, unless the window is the focused window. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: Printers in konqueror
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 17:51, John Davidson wrote: Somewhere along all the recent changes to kde2 I have lost the ability to print from konqueror. I am using the CUPS printing system and have no difficulty printing a test page from the web admin interface, but it is impossible to print from any other application. Before when the printer worked in cups it worked everywhere. Now it doesn't. No problem with cups + any KDE apps here. Also I note that whenever I open a qtcups in kde and then close the window, the process remains. This occurs for each instance of openning a qtcups window. This means that I sometimes have 3 or more qtcups processes running. Also no Problem here. Does this work in a konsole/xterm? lpr ~/.bashrc qtcups ~/.bashrc Have you checked that your ~/.lpoptions is valied. I've once had problems because I wrote 'Defaults' instead of 'Default'. Achim I have looked through the documentation for configuring konqueror but htere was no help there. Any ideas? John Davidson -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
On Mar 14 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: So far there has not been a single volunteer to actually host the master site that has the ability to do it correctly or who actually follows through. For this reason we have had the ongoing problems (over a year now) of where do we put the box next... I only have a cheap, low bandwidth, ADSL connection (128k upstream) that is not permanently connected to the internet. If I could, I would maintain it as the main site, accepting http, ftp and rsync connections (and a rsync server is simply essential for mirroring) and since I already have a mirror of some parts of kde.tdyc.com, I think that everything would be a bit easier. This way, I would be giving back something to the community. But, alas, I'm not able to do this *yet* (I may in the future -- I hope). On the other hand, if people would need me to upload something to some site, feel free to ask. I'd love to help. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Printers in konqueror
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 17:51, John Davidson wrote: Somewhere along all the recent changes to kde2 I have lost the ability to print from konqueror. I am using the CUPS printing system and have no difficulty printing a test page from the web admin interface, but it is impossible to print from any other application. Before when the printer worked in cups it worked everywhere. Now it doesn't. Also I note that whenever I open a qtcups in kde and then close the window, the process remains. This occurs for each instance of openning a qtcups window. This means that I sometimes have 3 or more qtcups processes running. I have looked through the documentation for configuring konqueror but htere was no help there. Any ideas? John Davidson I had printing problems to when using CUPS and KDE. KDE is looking for the printer definition in /etc/printcap, while the default CUPS is keeping them in /etc/printcap.cups. A softlink helped for me ln -s /etc/printcap /etc/printcap.cups Sincerly,
Re: Printers in konqueror
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 17:51, John Davidson wrote: Somewhere along all the recent changes to kde2 I have lost the ability to print from konqueror. I am using the CUPS printing system and have no difficulty printing a test page from the web admin interface, but it is impossible to print from any other application. Serge Robyns responded: I had printing problems to when using CUPS and KDE. KDE is looking for the printer definition in /etc/printcap, while the default CUPS is keeping them in /etc/printcap.cups. A softlink helped for me ln -s /etc/printcap /etc/printcap.cups That worked except that it should be ln -s /etc/printcap.cups /etc/printcap Thanks John Davidson
K Menu stops working at random
Every few minutes or so, parts of the K Menu stops working. Most of the time when this happens, none of the menu items in the first submenu (Accessories located in ~/.kde/share/applnk/Accessories) work, i.e. when I select Accessories-XMMS, nothing happens, not even an error message on VC1. I tried making a copy of the Accessories directory to AAA (so the AAA and Accessories submenus are exactly the same), and when I see the K Menu strangeness occur, AAA menu options won't work while Accessories menu options will. I've tried running kbuildsycoca when the problem occurs, and sometimes if fixes things, sometimes it leaves the K Menu in a completely unusable state (all my submenus are missing, and only Run Command and Logout work). When it does fix things, the problem returns after a few minutes. I've tried enabling and disabling Clear Menu Cache and neither fixes the problem. The only thing that consistently fixes the problem is logging out of KDE and restarting X. In my setup, many of the standard menus are hidden (as shown in their relevant .directory files). The packages I have installed are as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --list | grep kde ii kdebase2.1.0-4.1 KDE core applications ii kdebase-crypto 2.1-final-0.po KDE core applications (Crypto modules) ii kdebase-doc2.1.0-4.1 Documentation for Applications in kdebase ii kdebase-libs 2.1.0-4.1 KDE libraries amd modules for kdebase ii kdegames 1.1.2-2425 KDE games collection ii kdelibs2g 1.1.2-final-1 KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdelibs3 2.1.0-0.potato KDE core libraries (runtime files) ii kdelibs3-crypt 2.1-final-0.po KDE core libraries (Crypto Modules) ii kdesupport0g 1.1.2-final-1 mime, uuencode and QwSpriteField library - r [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg --list | grep qt ii libqt1g1.45-3 Shared Library used by applications linked w ii libqt2 2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI Library (runtime version). ii libqt2.2 2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI Library (Migration package). Any ideas? Thanks. -- Derrick Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgraded kdm - lost locale
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Thibaut Cousin wrote: I found on the debian-user mailing list two interesting things : - in /etc/X11/Xsession, replace the first line #!/bin/sh by : #!/bin/bash --login in order to make X open a real session with environment variables defined. Now this finally worked! Thank You All very much! - well-behaved session managers should recognize and use pam_env.so. kdm seems unable to do that, whereas gdm does. Well, it's good to have something to look forward to ;) -perttu-
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 16:51, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: 2. Debian. where would we put it? The QT1/KDE1 stuff would not be allowed in the first place due to the licensing issues. It *can't* go into the potato distribution. No place else allows rsync and ftp let alone allowing anyone but myself access to it. Stupid suggestion: How unfree is the original KDE? Why not non-free? Stick qt in non-free and KDE in main/contrib.
Re: kde.tdyc.com down?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 05:12:40AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2001 16:51, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: 2. Debian. where would we put it? The QT1/KDE1 stuff would not be allowed in the first place due to the licensing issues. It *can't* go into the potato distribution. No place else allows rsync and ftp let alone allowing anyone but myself access to it. Stupid suggestion: How unfree is the original KDE? Why not non-free? Stick qt in non-free and KDE in main/contrib. QT is in main...always has been. however GPL'd binaries built against it are illegal to distribute. KDE will say it's implied, Debian stance on it is that's not enough. Either way, KDE *IS* in main currently. There is no way in hell KDE will ever go into potato. potato is stable, out the door, we are not going to introduce kde + qt updates to the mix just to have a place to put the binaries. KDE is *not* stable enough to be in potato, nuff said. The whole point of calling it stable enough for a stable release is being comfortable enough to say..ok, I don't have to touch that ever again. We all know that the KDE2 packages I have built for potato are not at that stage. The hope is that the KDE2 packages in sid will be by the time woody is released. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Starting programs from menu doesn't always work
Some programs, not all, seem to only start once from the menu. If I try the second time, nothing happens - they just fail to start. I can't find any error message (for instance there is nothing in .xsession-errors). If I log out and log back in again, I can use the menu one more time. If I start the program from konsole, it starts no problem. One programme that always exhibits this behaviour is the gimp. I have a version compiled from source and installed into /usr/local/bin. I have no idea whats wrong - and therefore how to fix it. Help anyone? Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chandler.u-net.com
Re: Starting programs from menu doesn't always work
On Mar 14 2001, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: I also see problems like this. Latest is that the sound mixer goes away. Normally it is docked on the taskbar but now it will disappear and it is not possible to restart it - I must exit/restart kde. This is exactly one problem that I am seeing with the mixer (in one sid installation). Another problem with KDE seems to be related to noatun. It now frequently segfaults. :-( []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
some credits for Kde2.1 AA and debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 for those interested in AA and yet another story about setting up AA, here is what linux planet can tell you: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3093/1/ on the third page, there is an homage to the debian distro and the great work accomplished by Ivan. ( many thanks also to the bugs reports, numerous comments and bug fixes on this list) C. - -- | Christophe Prud'homme, http://augustine.mit.edu/~prudhomm | ICQ UIN: 24560867 Alias: Jesunix | | All laws are simulations of reality. | -- John C. Lilly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqwNvYACgkQoY+0C9S+FFDtFQCdEPIoCb4hK9vvJ1ZtDYMRMJNG T/EAn1wSURw8NZ93BsNiu2M32+vuM8wI =GUIH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
kmail to be removed?
When I started an apt -d dist-upgrade today it tells me: ... The following packages will be REMOVED: keystone kit kmail knode korn kppp ksirc ktalkd task-kdenetwork ... Why does it want to remove this (pretty important) stuff? Is there some replacement don't see? Matth
