Re: anyone having problems with noatun?

2001-03-20 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

   Hiya Tim,

I just tested it here. First, noatun DOES run now, which it didn't 2 upgrades 
ago :)

I fired up top and then fired up the player. mp3's are using about 12% and 
mpg files about 30% - which is pretty damned good considering. It doesn't 
appear to support avi files.

Box here is a potato wid 2.2.17 and latest from Ivan for kde. Box is a 
450pIII with 128mb.

On Monday 19 March 2001 17:42, Tim Kelley wrote:
 I'm running the ltest KDE2.1 with potato.

 Lately (I can't remember after which update) whenever I try to play a file
 accosiated with kde media player (noatun) my cpu goes straight to 100% and
 nothing else happens.  I've tried playing files from the terminal to see if
 anything useful ... I get this:

 noatun ./blah.mpg

  ** Warning ** unix_connect: can't connect to server
 (unix:/tmp/mcop-tpk/pimp_winkinc_com-0220-3ab69d5d)
 Launched ok, pid = 1214

  ** Warning ** unix_connect: can't connect to server
 (unix:/tmp/mcop-tpk/pimp_winkinc_com-0220-3ab69d5d)

 I am running artsd, ps ax gives me this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps ax | grep art
 1214 ?R  0:28 artsd -F 5 -S 4096 -d -b 16

 ls -l /tmp mcop-tpk/ gives me this (excuse the wrapping):

 total 6
 -rw---1 tpk  tpk   206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_AudioManager
 -rw---1 tpk  tpk   206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_MidiManager
 -rw---1 tpk  tpk   206 Mar 19 19:37
 Arts_PlayObjectFactory -rw---1 tpk  tpk   206 Mar 19
 19:37 Arts_SimpleSoundServer -rw---1 tpk  tpk   206 Mar
 19 19:37 Arts_SoundServer srwxr-xr-x1 tpk  tpk 0 Mar 19
 17:59
 pimp_winkinc_com-0220-3ab69d5d
 srwxr-xr-x1 tpk  tpk 0 Mar 19 19:37
 pimp_winkinc_com-04be-3ab6b461
 -rw---1 tpk  tpk32 Mar 19 17:59 secret-cookie

 is anyone else having problems?  All I can do at this point is killall -9
 artsd.  At some point everything was working fine 

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Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Tuesday 20 March 2001 06:28, Whit wrote:
 Okay, by going to archives for this list I found the clues on how to run
 the automated kde install on a fresh potato with no desktop manager set up
 yet. Really impressed by how smoothly that ran compared to trying to use
 rpms on Red Hat. (Suggestion: put a short mention of how to invoke the
 installation in the debian.kde.net Webpages?)

 Yeah, so then I do a startx and I've got a kde terminal on my otherwise
 grey screen rather than the default rxvt or whatever it was after getting
 XFree up.

 Umm, what's the totally obvious thing to do (if I'd ever set up Debian
 before) to have the system bring up the full kde screen? (Suggestion: put a
 short mention of this on the Webpages too and you'll about have the newbie
 angle covered - providing the newbie has gotten past similar bits of
 mystery in the initial potato install.)

Method one:

echo kde2  ~/.wmrc # once
startx

Method two:

apt-get install kdm
select 'kde2' instead of 'default' in the login window

Achim

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Re: KDE in woody?

2001-03-20 Thread John Gay


I've used Ivan's KDE packages with a Woody/testing system. I know Ivan does not
recommend it, but then I'm only using my box for personal use. At the moment
everything seems to be quite stable, but I have seen some unstable behaviour on
my system. If your woody box is 'mission critical' you probably don't want to
try it, but if it's just for regular home use, I've found it to be quite a good
combination.

Ivan has recommended in the past that if you 'must' have KDE on woody, you
should probably use the QT and KDE stuff from unstable rather than his, as it is
closer matched WRT lib's and such, but I've only had a few glitches here and
there as Ivan has updated and re-built his KDE .deb's. No show stoppers.

Of course this is just my personal experiences based on my system. You might
want to hear what others have to say about their experiences before jumping in.

Cheers,

 John Gay





Re: KDE in woody?

2001-03-20 Thread John Gay


I was getting the panel resets quite often, but the last updates from Ivan seems
to have sorted that. In saying this, though, I'm running Progeny, which is
woody-based. I'm not sure what the differences are between Progeny and Debian
Woody, so that might be why mine is fine now.

Cheers,

 John Gay





Re: KDE in woody?

2001-03-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Seidler wrote:

 On the kde.tdyc.com website, there is a note stating that
 KDE is now part of woody.

That was written before package pools.  If it was written today it
would probably say... KDE is now part of Sid (unstable), and hopefully
will make it into Woody (testing) soon.


- Bruce




Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Whit
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 07:23:09AM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote:

 Method one:
 
   echo kde2  ~/.wmrc # once
   startx

Thanks for the advice. However, startx still brings up just a grey screen
with konsole in the middle ;

Now to the next method ...

Whit
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KDevelop missing C++ reference

2001-03-20 Thread Guillermo Castro
Hi,

I have KDevelop 1.4 (kdevelop_1.4-final-0.potato1_i386.deb), but when I try 
to look at the C/C++ reference, it gives me an error. I've been trying to 
find a .deb package holding this reference and no luck.

Is anyone succesfully using KDevelop? With all the documentation created?

If you could share your insights on how and what packages you used, it would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Guillermo Castro




Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Whit
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 07:23:09AM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote:

 Method two:
 
   apt-get install kdm
   select 'kde2' instead of 'default' in the login window

The first step is redundant - but did it anyhow - no change.

The second - well, where is that 'login window'?

Thanks,
Whit
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Re: Konqueror on Alpha

2001-03-20 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
*ALL* of KDE is hosed on alpha currently.  It's part of that it builds, but
doesn't run group.  

However..what do you mean it depends on a way-too-old-perl?  

Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.1.0-0), lesstif1, libc6.1 (= 2.2.1-2), libjpeg62, 
libkonq3 (= 4:2.1.0-0), libpng2, libqt2 (= 2:2.3.0-final-0) | libqt2-gl (= 
2:2.3.0-final-0), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, xlibs (= 4.0.1-11), zlib1g (= 
1:1.1.3), kdebase-libs (= 4:2.1.0.1-1), libkonq3 (= 4:2.1.0.1-1), debconf

Please advise as to where a way-too-old-perl comes into play. I don't
seem to have any old versions of perl installed on my box and have konq
installed...

Ivan

On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 08:38:54AM +0100, Bart Warmerdam wrote:
 
   Hi All,
 
   Anyone tried konqueror yet on Alpha? It seems to verified to work since it's
   in the unstable area, right? But the dependencies are not current (depends
   on a way-too-old-perl) and the only this it does is showing the crash
   results on my screen.
 
   BTW: has anyone with a SX164 + mga (2064w) been able to run X-4 without
   suffering severe screen mess-ups and lockup of keyboard or complete system
   within 5 minutes of use?
 
   Cheers,
 
   B.
 
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Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Earl F Hampton
Or in side your konsole after x starts type 
$startkde

On Tuesday 20 March 2001 13:38, matthschulz wrote:
 Just say:

 startx kde2

 the it should work. At least it does for me.

 Matth

 Am Dienstag, 20. März 2001 14:31 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
  On Tuesday 20 March 2001 19:27, Whit wrote:
   On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 07:23:09AM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote:
Method one:
   
echo kde2  ~/.wmrc # once
startx
  
   Thanks for the advice. However, startx still brings up just a grey
   screen with konsole in the middle ;
  
   Now to the next method ...
 
  Have a look at ~/.xsession-errors.  Looks like your problem is some-
  where else.  What processes are running when you type 'ps x' in the
  konsole that sits in the middle of the grey desktop?
 
  FWIW for now you can try
  kdeinit_wrapper kdesktop
 
  to get a blue background :)
 
  Achim
 
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Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Whit
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:59:47AM -0700, David Bishop wrote:
 
 If you install kdm, but haven't rebooted, you need to run /etc/init.d/kdm
 start as root.  You will then see the login window he was referring to. 
 Otherwise, just reboot the machine.

Yeah, I just discovered that on the next boot. Please tell me how to undo
it! I don't want the system to come up in a GUI - guess I should have been
clear that what I'm trying to do is get startx or the equivalent to work
from a bash tty. I often don't work in a GUI, and don't want to waste time
going in to one just to go back out.

I'm also curious why the reinstall of kdm set it this way, when the initial
one didn't - guess that script modified the install enough to keep this
often-undesirable result from happening?

Thanks again,
Whit
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Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Whit
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 07:03:48PM +, John Gay wrote:

 If you don't want your system to boot directly into X, I'm not sure what
 command you can run to get kdm, but once that is up, you can then select
 kde2 when you login and off you go.

Thanks for the details on kdm. Indeed what I'm trying to do is set it so
that startx or whatever works from a shell - I don't as a rule want to boot
into a GUI. Ah well. Someone must know.

 As for why Debian, apt-get install xxx is enough reason for me. I've never
 had any luck using .rpm's. And the new task packages make it that much
 easier. Unfortunately, the configuration can be more difficult to get your
 head around for non-UNIX types, but once you get used to it, it is much
 more powerful and stable than anything I've ever tried.

Well, I'm a Unix type trying to get the hang of Debian. Always humbling to
become a beginner again. I'm more used to Red Hat, Slackware and Mandrake,
with some Solaris experience. I agree the apt-get stuff is a real advance.
What's surprising me is how sparse the Debian documentation is. Maybe once a
bit further in it will make such obvious sense that less documentation will
be needed?

Whit
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Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread Whit
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 03:38:26PM -0600, matthschulz wrote:
 Just say:
 
 startx kde2

And we have a winner!

Thanks, guy.

Whit
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Re: stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-20 Thread David Bishop

To stop it, you can either uninstall kdm (apt-get remove kdm) or manually 
delete the link in /etc/rc2.d/.   Since it seems like you won't ever want it to 
boot to X (the only function of *dm
on a workstation machine) you should probably just remove the package.  
However, I'm curious as to whether or not that worked (i.e., did it actually 
start kde when you logged on?)  If it 
did, that points to a problem with you startx routine (type, whatnot).  If it 
didn't, something is seriously wrong with your install and we get to dig deeper 
:-)

HTH,

D.A.Bishop

On Tuesday 20 March 2001 16:15, Whit wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:59:47AM -0700, David Bishop wrote:
  If you install kdm, but haven't rebooted, you need to run /etc/init.d/kdm
  start as root.  You will then see the login window he was referring to.
  Otherwise, just reboot the machine.

 Yeah, I just discovered that on the next boot. Please tell me how to undo
 it! I don't want the system to come up in a GUI - guess I should have been
 clear that what I'm trying to do is get startx or the equivalent to work
 from a bash tty. I often don't work in a GUI, and don't want to waste time
 going in to one just to go back out.

 I'm also curious why the reinstall of kdm set it this way, when the initial
 one didn't - guess that script modified the install enough to keep this
 often-undesirable result from happening?

 Thanks again,
 Whit
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Compiling KwinTV?

2001-03-20 Thread John Gay
I was able to get task-kde-devel installed and tried to compile KwinTV. 
./configure seemed to work, all the required directories were found, but make 
fails at the very end when linking with the following:

/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=link g++  -O2 -s -o kwintv -L/usr/lib  
-L/usr/X11R6/lib  wintv.o wintvmain.o wintvscreen.o wintvchannel.o 
wintvstream.o wintvstreamview.o wintvstreamviewData.o otab.o otabdata.o 
omixdev.o omixdevdata.o ogeneraldata.o ogeneral.o osnapshotdata.o osnapshot.o 
ofullscreen.o ofullscreendata.o vtab.o vtabdata.o soptions.o soptionsData.o 
sframerate.o sframerateData.o dsp.o rcfile.o channel.o mixer.o countries.o 
avivideoclip.o rawvideoclip.o ppmvideoclip.o c2freq.o c2freqData.o c2opts.o 
c2optsData.o c2prog.o c2progData.o ctab.o
ctabdata.o kirc.o wintvscan.o parsecl.o wizNorm.o wizRegion.o wizScan.o 
wizNormData.o wizRegionData.o wizScanData.o wizFinish.o wizFinishData.o 
docking.o v4lxif.o qt_visual.o colorspace.o -lkdeui -lkdecore -lqt -lqt-mt 
-lXext -ljpeg  -lXxf86dga -lXxf86vm
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [kwintv] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/jgay/kwintv/kwintv-0.8.5/kwintv'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/jgay/kwintv/kwintv-0.8.5/kwintv'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jgay/kwintv/kwintv-0.8.5'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
progeny:/home/jgay/kwintv/kwintv-0.8.5#

As far as I can tell, everything has compiled but when it tries to link the 
executable, it can't find the lqt and mt lib's? This is only a WAG, as I'm 
not that great at compiling. Can someone make out what is failing, and even 
better, what I need to do about it? I tried running ldconfig, just in case, 
but it still didn't work.

My other question is, once I've got make complete, will make install put 
everything into the right directories for a Debian-based system or will I 
need to change anything first? Ideally I'd like to build, test and contribute 
a .deb for kwintv as I can't seem to find one but I know little enough about 
just compiling software. I wouldn't know where to start to make a .deb out of 
it.

Cheers,

John Gay




Re: Compiling KwinTV?

2001-03-20 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
[...]

 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt

[...]
 
 As far as I can tell, everything has compiled but when it tries to link the 
 executable, it can't find the lqt and mt lib's? This is only a WAG, as I'm 
 not that great at compiling. Can someone make out what is failing, and even 
 better, what I need to do about it? I tried running ldconfig, just in case, 
 but it still didn't work.

no...it's not that it can't find the lqt and mt libs, it cant find the
lqt-mt libs.  It's trying to link to the mt version of qt.  

  apt-get install libqt-mt-dev

 My other question is, once I've got make complete, will make install put 
 everything into the right directories for a Debian-based system or will I 
 need to change anything first? Ideally I'd like to build, test and contribute 
 a .deb for kwintv as I can't seem to find one but I know little enough about 
 just compiling software. I wouldn't know where to start to make a .deb out of 
 it.

dunno...I haven't tried to build/install kwintv for quite some time so I don't
know where it wants to put things.

If you want to know how to build .deb's, you should look at the packaging 
manuals and whatnot.  

Ivan

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