Re: NAS Output

2001-12-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
 Why isn't the nas ouput module for artsd included in the debian packages of 
 kdelibs?
 Sebastian

Because nobody has every stated a need for it and it ties in extra
package dependencies.

Ivan

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Re: What version of gphoto to use to build kamera in KDE 2.2.2?

2001-12-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
 Kamera is in sid? Or must it be compiled from source?

check and you'll find it's in sid

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Re: kmail/procmail

2001-12-05 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Wednesday 05 December 2001 05:23, Bob Underwood wrote:
 For some reason, upgrading my kmail to the one presently on the server,
 apt-get also wants to install procmail.  Is this because something is
 missing on my system, or a change in dependencies, or have I done something
 in error?

kdenetworks_2.2.2-4 depends on procmail because of lockfile which is
needed for a inbox locking method.

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XFree + KDE + USB mouse = APM misbehavior

2001-12-05 Thread Thomas Winischhofer

I use the following setup:

Laptop computer
Xfree 4.1.0-9
KDE 2.2.2 (from yesterday)

X is configured to use the built-in touchpad as primary mouse input
device, and an USB mouse as secondary. Works perfect, except for the
following issue:

Under KDE 2.2.2, the box goes into suspend mode if 

- I don't use the keyboard and the touchpad but just the USB mouse AND 

- I only MOVE the USB mouse during the suspend time-out (an do no
mouseclicks).

It seems that either X or KDE don't take secondary mouse movements into
account for resetting the suspend time-out...?

Can anyone confirm this? 
Is this a KDE or X bug?

Thomas

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euro - more generic

2001-12-05 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Hi all.

In the past few weeks the euro discussions became more frequent - I know.
But for me there's one simple item to be done:

Why do I have to modify /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de (exchange EuroSymbol with 
currency) in order to get the Alt-Gr thing working in the german setup?
Problem is that gtk-applications rely on this EuroSymbol and I can't get them
to work with currency. KDE doesn't work with EuroSymbol and wants currency. 
Grrr. Any hints?

Thanks,
-Cajus




Re: XFree + KDE + USB mouse = APM misbehavior

2001-12-05 Thread Hendrik Naumann
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Hi Thomas

 Laptop computer
 Xfree 4.1.0-9
 KDE 2.2.2 (from yesterday)

 X is configured to use the built-in touchpad as primary mouse input
 device, and an USB mouse as secondary. Works perfect, except for
 the following issue:

 Under KDE 2.2.2, the box goes into suspend mode if

 - I don't use the keyboard and the touchpad but just the USB mouse
 AND

 - I only MOVE the USB mouse during the suspend time-out (an do no
 mouseclicks).

 It seems that either X or KDE don't take secondary mouse movements
 into account for resetting the suspend time-out...?

I can't confirm, because I don't use an USB mouse on my machine any 
more. But with kernel 2.2.x I had problems with apm and usb. After 
suspend my USB mouse did'nt move any more. I also got errormessages 
from the USB subsystem that it can't recover any more. I don't know 
if this is a hardware specific bug and how common it is.

To find out have a look at /var/log/syslog

Hendrik

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Re: bug reporting behavior

2001-12-05 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
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On Monday 03 December 2001 00:56, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 How do you know who's responsible?  You don't.  Too many bug reports are
 going to KDE that are not KDE's problem thus wasting their time.  Filtering
 them through Debian (they are Debian packages after all) is the proper
 thing to do.  You can still report bugs to KDE by going to
 http://bugs.kde.org which is what the bug report tool does anyway.


It also fills in a lot of required information. It'd be nice to leave where 
to report the bug to the user.  That is hardwired now I suppose?

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euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
is this working or no?
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RE:Audio io slave and artsd

2001-12-05 Thread John Greer
I recently installed KDE2.2.2 from sid and I noticed that I do not have a 
audio slave for mp3's.  I do have one for ogg's though.  Any pointers?
The configuration option is in kcontrol for mp3's.  

I have a mostly woody box except for some KDE packages from sid.  

The other problem is that artsd does not start when KDE comes up.  It is 
selected to automatically start in kcontrol.  I can start it manually just 
fine.

Thanks!

-john




Re: euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Macolu
Le Mercredi 5 Décembre 2001 17:21, Ivan E. Moore II a écrit :
 is this working or no?

It's working for me.




Re: Audio io slave and artsd

2001-12-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 09:44:22AM -0700, John Greer wrote:
 I recently installed KDE2.2.2 from sid and I noticed that I do not have a 
 audio slave for mp3's.  I do have one for ogg's though.  Any pointers?
 The configuration option is in kcontrol for mp3's.  
 
 I have a mostly woody box except for some KDE packages from sid.  
 
 The other problem is that artsd does not start when KDE comes up.  It is 
 selected to automatically start in kcontrol.  I can start it manually just 
 fine.

it's not built with mp3 support since the libraries are not available in
Debian.

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Re: XFree + KDE + USB mouse = APM misbehavior

2001-12-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 11:00, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:
 
 I use the following setup:
 
 Laptop computer
 Xfree 4.1.0-9
 KDE 2.2.2 (from yesterday)
 
 X is configured to use the built-in touchpad as primary mouse input
 device, and an USB mouse as secondary. Works perfect, except for the
 following issue:
 
 Under KDE 2.2.2, the box goes into suspend mode if 
 
 - I don't use the keyboard and the touchpad but just the USB mouse AND 
 
 - I only MOVE the USB mouse during the suspend time-out (an do no
 mouseclicks).
 
 It seems that either X or KDE don't take secondary mouse movements into
 account for resetting the suspend time-out...?
 
 Can anyone confirm this? 
 Is this a KDE or X bug?

Neither AFAICT. I don't see either having anything to do with APM
suspend. I'd rather suspect apmd or the kernel APM code.


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Re: kmail/procmail

2001-12-05 Thread Casper Gielen
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 11:23:18PM -0500, Bob Underwood wrote:
 For some reason, upgrading my kmail to the one presently on the server, 
 apt-get also wants to install procmail.  Is this because something is missing 
 on my system, or a change in dependencies, or have I done something in error?
 

Kmail uses lockfile from procmail. A dependency for this has recently
been added.

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Re: euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Magnus von Koeller
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On Wednesday 05 December 2001 17:21, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 is this working or no?

Not for me. It does work in all other KDE apps but only by 
hand-editing /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de, putting 'currency' instead of 
'EuroSign' in there for AltGr+E but then it doesn't work in GTK apps. 
And in Konsole, it doesn't work at all (nothing happens when I press 
AltGr+E).

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Re: euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
On Wednesday, 5. December 2001 20:45, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 December 2001 17:21, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
  is this working or no?

 Not for me. It does work in all other KDE apps but only by
 hand-editing /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de, putting 'currency' instead of
 'EuroSign' in there for AltGr+E but then it doesn't work in GTK apps.
 And in Konsole, it doesn't work at all (nothing happens when I press
 AltGr+E).

Gtk apps need EuroSign instead of currency in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de
thats my problem, too. Either kde works, or gtk works.

If you set your LANG=de_DE.ISO-8859-15 int /etc/environment and set
the font of konsole to user defined - iso8859-15 you'll get the euro
sign.

For the first thingie I've no solution :-(

-Cajus




Re: XFree + KDE + USB mouse = APM misbehavior

2001-12-05 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
On Wednesday 05 December 2001 19:07, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 11:00, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:
  Under KDE 2.2.2, the box goes into suspend mode if
 
  - I don't use the keyboard and the touchpad but just the USB mouse
  AND
 
  - I only MOVE the USB mouse during the suspend time-out (an do no
  mouseclicks).
 
  It seems that either X or KDE don't take secondary mouse movements
  into account for resetting the suspend time-out...?
 
  Can anyone confirm this?
  Is this a KDE or X bug?

 Neither AFAICT. I don't see either having anything to do with APM
 suspend. I'd rather suspect apmd or the kernel APM code.

Do you know what process (or the BIOS?) is responsible for administer 
the suspend timeouts, ie. receiving mouse and keyboard events and 
resetting the timer for suspend at each one of these? If it's the BIOS 
- does KDE really re-program the BIOS settings when I set up a new 
time out under Power Control? No offence, but I find that somewhat 
hard to believe...!

- The log says user suspend if i don't touch the touchpad and the 
keyboard for the time-out set up. Assume that wouldn'd be _user_ if 
it was anything between the kernel and the BIOS.

- Under any other VT except 7 (X that is), the box doesn't wake up 
when I touch the touch pad.

- If it's apmd, I would assume that the time-outs can be configured 
somewhere... AFAICS there's no config file for that...? The only place 
I found to configure this was under KDE.

hm?

Thomas




Re: euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Wednesday 05 December 2001 20:45, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
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 On Wednesday 05 December 2001 17:21, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
  is this working or no?
 
 Not for me. It does work in all other KDE apps but only by 
 hand-editing /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de, putting 'currency' instead of 
 'EuroSign' in there for AltGr+E but then it doesn't work in GTK apps. 
 And in Konsole, it doesn't work at all (nothing happens when I press 
 AltGr+E).

Trust me.  Konsole can output euro symbol.

First check with xev if ALT gr really gives an Euro Event from
the Xserver

Check that you configured the right font:

perl -le 'print chr(0xe4),chr(0244)'

This will output auml; and euro; for latin 9 but auml and
currency; for iso latin 1.

If you see other chars check LANG and LC_* settings.

Maybe bash eats the 8 bit.  Put this into ~/.inputrc

set input-meta on
set output-meta on
set convert-meta off

and exec bash (without these settings I was never able to write any 8bit char.)

Off hand I can't thing or other pit falls.  Let us know if with this hints
you can look at beautiful euro in konsole ;)

Achim
 
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Re: problem with konqueror 2.2.2-5 and javascript button

2001-12-05 Thread Eric Christopherson
Tobias Hoevekamp wrote:

Hi there,

since KDE 2.0 I am hoping on being able to enter my
bank account via konqueror. Unfortunately, 
the javascript button Anmelden on
https://directnet1.credit-suisse.com/dn5/ident_post.eval?FUNCTION=ANMELDEN
will still not be executed - though using 2.2.2. Hmmm. 

I am using debian unstable (2.2.19) with j2re1.3 and all suggested
packages (dpkg --status konqueror). I've upgraded this morning.
Can someone of you get further by clicking on Anmelden which 
would mean that I've done something wrong or is this a bug?


I'm also having trouble with javascript, and I'm using konqueror 2.2.2-6
from unstable. It worked ok when I was using 2.2.2-2 packages, but then when
I upgraded jscript seemed to break. Downgrading back to 2.2.2-2 didn't help.
When run from a terminal, this is what I get when trying to access pages
which use javascript:

kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: library=kjs_html:
file=/usr/lib/kde2/kjs_html.la: /usr/lib/kde2/kjs_html.so: undefined symbol:
toPrimitive__CQ23KJS3ImpQ23KJS4Type



Also, I get a similar error with kate. That fails with:

kate: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so: undefined symbol:
document__CQ211KTextEditor4View

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Re: XFree + KDE + USB mouse = APM misbehavior

2001-12-05 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
On Wednesday 05 December 2001 19:07, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 11:00, Thomas Winischhofer wrote:
  I use the following setup:
 
  Laptop computer
  Xfree 4.1.0-9
  KDE 2.2.2 (from yesterday)
 
  X is configured to use the built-in touchpad as primary mouse
  input device, and an USB mouse as secondary. Works perfect, except
  for the following issue:
 
  Under KDE 2.2.2, the box goes into suspend mode if
 
  - I don't use the keyboard and the touchpad but just the USB mouse
  AND
 
  - I only MOVE the USB mouse during the suspend time-out (an do no
  mouseclicks).
 
  It seems that either X or KDE don't take secondary mouse movements
  into account for resetting the suspend time-out...?
 
  Can anyone confirm this?
  Is this a KDE or X bug?

 Neither AFAICT. I don't see either having anything to do with APM
 suspend. I'd rather suspect apmd or the kernel APM code.

I can now answer my own question:

It's a design flaw within kde's laptop daemon. This thingy 
checks for keyboard and mouse events through parsing /proc/interrupts, 
searching for the keywords [K|k]eyboard and [M|m]ouse and checking 
whether or not interrupts have occurred.

Thus, no wonder the usb mouse doesn't count so to speak; in 
/proc/interrupts the usb mouse does not appear as mouse but as 
usb-ohci (or whatever driver you use) - and might as such share irq 
with other devices (such as sound in my case). :(

I will file a bug because this is obviously not a good way - 
considering some people using USB input devices only.

Thomas




konsole

2001-12-05 Thread David Bishop
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Hey, does anyone know how to open up a new terminal within an existing 
konsole using the keyboard?  I.e., I don't want to have to touch the mouse :-)

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Suggestion for KDE Euro

2001-12-05 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi all,

The 1st January the Euro is going out. I think it is a good think to set now 
the default currency symbol for European Countries in KDE to Euro.
So the woody release, which will very probably be out after this date, will 
be totally ready for the Euro.
I don't know where are defined this defaults, and if it is easy to change it 
for Debian packages, so it is just a suggestion.

Aurelien




Re: euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2001 20:54 schrieb Cajus Pollmeier:
 On Wednesday, 5. December 2001 20:45, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 December 2001 17:21, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
   is this working or no?
 
  Not for me. It does work in all other KDE apps but only by
  hand-editing /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de, putting 'currency' instead of
  'EuroSign' in there for AltGr+E but then it doesn't work in GTK apps.
  And in Konsole, it doesn't work at all (nothing happens when I press
  AltGr+E).

 Gtk apps need EuroSign instead of currency in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de
 thats my problem, too. Either kde works, or gtk works.

 If you set your LANG=de_DE.ISO-8859-15 int /etc/environment and set

I have now
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but the xkb/symbols/de problems persists. It _must_ be a bug in X because it 
does not even print another char, there simply does not arrive _anything_. 
Not even with xev a character is printed (when EuroSign is in that file):
KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x241,
root 0x4d, subw 0x0, time 2566295417, (84,-11), root:(88,413),
state 0x2010, keycode 26 (keysym 0x20ac, EuroSign), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 characters:  

This also does not produce anything in xfce (not even the currency sign).
Not even calling a single xterm without wm make AltGR-E do anything with 
EuroSign.
The perl code diplays the euro sign just fine (unicode font used, KDE only).
The ¢ (cent sign works just fine, also all umlauts).

So I guess this is specific to X and the de xkbd symbol and not an KDE bug 
(although I do not know what gtk does). Gimp does not work either (it uses 
gtk, doesn't it?).

Who does file this as a bug for X? It clearly is a X bug but I do not know 
which package.

BTW: with currency in symbols/de and calling xev I get:
KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x221,
root 0x4d, subw 0x0, time 2567216721, (172,-10), root:(791,30),
state 0x2010, keycode 26 (keysym 0xa4, currency), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 characters:  ¤

Just like it should be with EuroSign. _Everything else is equal !
And KDE has no relation to xev, has it?

HS

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Re: kmail/procmail

2001-12-05 Thread Bob Underwood
On Wednesday 05 December 2001 13:53, Casper Gielen wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 11:23:18PM -0500, Bob Underwood wrote:
  For some reason, upgrading my kmail to the one presently on the server,
  apt-get also wants to install procmail.  Is this because something is
  missing on my system, or a change in dependencies, or have I done
  something in error?

 Kmail uses lockfile from procmail. A dependency for this has recently
 been added.

Thanks.  The newness of the dependency confused me.

bob




Re: euro and konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Hi,

Another tip:
There are two occurences of currency/EuroSign in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de:
AltGR-Shift-4 (currency) and AltGr-e(EuroSign)

I have them now simply exchanged because I use KDE more. Both can be 
available, though. Or simply make
AltGR-Shift-e=EuroSign and AltGr-e=currency

It just equal to the Home/End-Keys hack in Konsole :-/
It seems, the keyboard is not the best friend of X, is it?

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Bug#122533: Euro trouble

2001-12-05 Thread Rüdiger Kuhlmann

--[Ivan E. Moore II]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  konsole doesn't show fonts with encodings other than iso8859-1 or utf-8. It
  is possible to get proper iso8859-15 (hint: there's the ? (EURO) symbol in)
  fonts by just adding a 5 after iso8859-1 and pressing ok. It now halfways
 | If you set your LANG=de_DE.ISO-8859-15 int /etc/environment and set
 | the font of konsole to user defined - iso8859-15 you'll get the euro

  works: it shows the Euro symbol. But you're still not able to input an Euro
  ^   ^
  symbol, as it isn't in iso8859-1 and thus just replaced by a question mark.
  The same is true for the accented s and z symbols.  It's not the X server's
  fault, as it works fine in an XTerm (with the right font).

Sorry, but outputting it is _not_ the problem - that works fine. _Inputting_
is the problem. Pressing AltGr-e yields a question mark. It _inputs_ a
question mark, as can be checked by od -tx. CopyPasting an ¤ works as well.
I can also change the .keytab by adding

| key E +Alt : \xa4

so that Alt-e yields an ¤. The AltGr-e is still eaten by konsole. The same
problem is with ^s ^S ^z ^Z, which where added in iso-8859-15 as well.
(And now that I finally got rid of those dead keys by disabling KDE keymap
selection since it doesn't have the nodeadkeys option, why isn't there
a key combination for dead keys somewhere hidden at the same positions on
_all_ keymaps?)

--[Achim Bohnet]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 set input-meta on
 set output-meta on
 set convert-meta off

.de is German. Trust me, I use 8bit chars since I bought this computer. And
I said it works fine in an XTerm.




Re: Suggestion for KDE Euro

2001-12-05 Thread Derek Gladding
On Wednesday 05 December 2001 01:11 pm, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 Hi all,

 The 1st January the Euro is going out. I think it is a good think to set
 now the default currency symbol for European Countries in KDE to Euro. So
 the woody release, which will very probably be out after this date, will be
 totally ready for the Euro.
 I don't know where are defined this defaults, and if it is easy to change
 it for Debian packages, so it is just a suggestion.

 Aurelien


Well, Euro-area and European aren't quite the same thing, so it's not
an appropriate default for all European countries, but, in general, this seems
like a good idea.

- Derek

PS: Sorry Aurelien, didn't mean to cc you on this personally, I clicked reply
without checking my mailer was set up right first.




Re: NAS Output

2001-12-05 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Wednesday 05 December 2001 12:21 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
  Why isn't the nas ouput module for artsd included in the debian packages
  of kdelibs?
  Sebastian

 Because nobody has every stated a need for it and it ties in extra
 package dependencies.

 Ivan

Ivan,

I almost jumped outta my chair when I saw this thread start. Due to the 
fact
that we just picked up a palette load of x-terminals. And THEY all support
(insist on) NAS for sound. We've been battling with getting the NAS up and
running (runs on local box, but it's being seen by the terminals yet). You
and the KDE team have done a superb job exporting all the other sound stuff,
so if you need someone to say Please before working on the NAS stuff,
Pretty Please, Ivan!!   :--)

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Re: konsole

2001-12-05 Thread Justin R. Miller
Thus spake Jens Benecke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I looked into the Help file for konsole and it told me to use
 CTRL-ALT-N.  You can only open default konsole windows this way,
 though (no custom sessions). But this can be configured (what a
 surprise ;).

While we're on the topic, and since I can't find it anywhere, do you
know if there is a keybinding for renaming the current session (i.e.
bringing up the popup for renaming)?  

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Re: NAS Output

2001-12-05 Thread Eric Nodwell

Well if someone is collecting votes, I'll vote for the inclusion of
nas!  One of the primary reasons for still having several Windows
boxes kicking around here where I work is that the Linux X-terminals
are mute - amazing but true!  I've considered installing nas to solve
this problem, but I'm not keen on compiling kde myself.

What about a kdelibs-nas package which is a replacement for kdelibs?
(An either/or thing.)  Then it doesn't affect those who don't need it. 

Hmmm... Maybe I'll even give this a try myself when I have some extra
time (maybe after Christmas?).

Eric


On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:25:47PM -0800, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 05 December 2001 12:21 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
   Why isn't the nas ouput module for artsd included in the debian packages
   of kdelibs?
   Sebastian
 
  Because nobody has every stated a need for it and it ties in extra
  package dependencies.
 
  Ivan
 
 Ivan,
 
   I almost jumped outta my chair when I saw this thread start. Due to the 
 fact
 that we just picked up a palette load of x-terminals. And THEY all support
 (insist on) NAS for sound. We've been battling with getting the NAS up and
 running (runs on local box, but it's being seen by the terminals yet). You
 and the KDE team have done a superb job exporting all the other sound stuff,
 so if you need someone to say Please before working on the NAS stuff,
 Pretty Please, Ivan!!   :--)
 
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Bug#122533: Euro trouble

2001-12-05 Thread Rüdiger Kuhlmann

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 Am Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2001 23:37 schrieb Rüdiger Kuhlmann:

  .de is German. Trust me, I use 8bit chars since I bought this computer. And
  I said it works fine in an XTerm.

 edit /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/de and change EuroSign to currency
 or input the euro sign by pressing AltGR-Shift-4 when iso-8859-15 or unicode 

I added an entry for AltGr-Shift-e to be currency instead of EuroSign. There
is no difference in the result: It works in a plain XTerm, but not in
konsole. Even in Gabber after changing the font. Actually it seems not to
work in any KDE program...

This is all I did to get to where I am:

  * set charset to iso-8859-15, language to de, country to de
in ControlCenter/Personalization/CountryLanguage
  * change to a iso-8859-15 font in all programs I stumble across, in particular
konsole, licq and ControlCenter/.*/fonts
  * add LANG=de_DE and LC_ALL=de_DE to /etc/environment (and make sure it is
sourced)
  * added proper charset and send_charset option to mutt
  * add font = 
-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-p-88-iso8859-15
to .gtkrc
  * add Xterm.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
to .Xresource

= Works in XTerm, Gabber, but not in konsole, licq and konqueror.

 There seems to be a problem with EuroSign definition for the de symbol map.
 My guess is, that it's the X-Servers fault because not even a blank xterm as 
 session will input EuroSign but only currency (which is the euro sign in -15).

BS.

PS. I found the compose key in the mean time (the right windows key)