Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO

2002-08-20 Thread Jarno Elonen
 Try some. The problem is that they usually look good only in large sizes
 with antialias. Good scalability is not very common in freeware fonts. And
 they often contain only a very limited set of characters.
 In my opinion, apart from quality issues, making sure the font(s) are
 freely modifiable (i.e. free, not just gratis) would be important, too.

Several people sent me links to web pages with free fonts as a response to 
this. My point was not that there are no free fonts around, but that their 
quality is usually not sufficient for a basic GUI font.

So here's the challenge restated.
Find free fonts that:

 + is compact and suitable for a GUI (say, menus and a file browser)
 + looks good and is easy to read
   + in sizes 7-12 without antialiasing
   + in sizes 5- with antialiasing
 + has both upper and lower case characters
 + has scandinavian and french characters, euro sign, mathematical
   characters etc.
 (+ is really free and you can even distribute modified versions)

Good examples, except that they are not free, are Windows fonts Microsoft Sans 
Serif, Courier New and Times New Roman. The free Verdana is unfortunately too 
wide for GUI use, IMO.

- Jarno




HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread gif
Just upgraded to KDE 3.0.2, and had it working, but after som more
updates it now crashes at startup with this message:
DCOPServer up and running.
/usr/bin/startkde: line 131:  2266 Segmentation fault  kwin
/usr/bin/startkde: line 131:  2267 Segmentation fault  kpersonalizer
--before-session
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOPServer up and running.
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-2282' to 'kded'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-2286' to 'knotify'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children.
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit: Exit.
This is really bad. I've tried anything I found on the net including
reinstalling everything that might be related, but nothing helps. I'm
running unstable/testing, and also tried upgrading to KDE 3.0.3, but the
result is exactly the same.
Does anybody have any clues about whats causing this error?
Or is there a painless way to downgrade to KDE 2.2.2?
.gif



Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO

2002-08-20 Thread Jarno Elonen
Oh, forgot two important points..

 Find free fonts that:

  + is compact and suitable for a GUI (say, menus and a file browser)
  + looks good and is easy to read
+ in sizes 7-12 without antialiasing
+ in sizes 5- with antialiasing

   + has bold and italics

  + has both upper and lower case characters
  + has scandinavian and french characters, euro sign, mathematical
characters etc.

   + supports several character encodings
(ascii, iso8859-1, iso8859-15, etc)

  (+ is really free and you can even distribute modified versions)

 Good examples, except that they are not free, are Windows fonts Microsoft
 Sans Serif, Courier New and Times New Roman. The free Verdana is
 unfortunately too wide for GUI use, IMO.

 - Jarno




Re: HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread Dale Kemp





This is really bad. I've tried anything I found on the net including 
reinstalling everything that might be related, but nothing helps. I'm 
running unstable/testing, and also tried upgrading to KDE 3.0.3, but the 
result is exactly the same. 
 
Does anybody have any clues about whats causing this error? 
 
Or is there a painless way to downgrade to KDE 2.2.2? 
 
.gif 
 
 
 

I'm now running KDE3.0.3. While the upgrade from 2.2.2 to 3.0.3 took
alot of fiddling around it does work for me and others, you need several
things from unstable for it to work:
 - libqt3*
 - libc


ii libc6 2.2.5-14 GNU C Library: Shared
libraries and Timezone data
ii libc6-dev 2.2.5-14 GNU C Library: Development
Libraries and Header Files.
ii libqt-dev 2.3.1-22 Qt GUI development headers
ii libqt2 2.3.1-22 Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
ii libqt2-mt 2.3.1-22 Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded
version).
ii libqt3 3.0.5-2 Qt GUI Library (runtime
files)
ii libqt3-mt 3.0.5-2 Qt GUI Library (Threaded
runtime version)
ii libqt3-mysql 3.0.5-2 Mysql database plugin for
Qt3
ii libqt3-odbc 3.0.5-2 ODBC plugin for Qt3
ii libqt3-psql 3.0.5-2 Postgresql database plugin
for Qt3
ii kdeartwork-misc 3.0.2-1 various multimedia goodies
released with KDE
ii kdeartwork-theme-desk 3.0.2-1 desktop themes and related
goodies released with KDE
ii kdeartwork-theme-wind 3.0.2-1 window decoration themes
released with KDE
ii kdebase 3.0.3-1 KDE Base metapackage
ii kdebase-bin 3.0.3-1 KDE Base (binaries)
ii kdebase-data 3.0.3-1 KDE Base (shared data)
ii kdebugdialog 3.0.3-1 KDE Debug Settings
ii kdecarddecks 3.0.3-1 Card decks for KDE games
ii kdelibs-bin 3.0.3-1 KDE core binaries
ii kdelibs-data 3.0.3-1 KDE core shared data
ii kdelibs4 3.0.3-1 KDE core libraries
ii kdepalettes 3.0.3-1 palettes that match the KDE
standard colour palette
ii kdeprint 3.0.3-1 KDE Print
ii kdesdk-scripts 3.0.3-1 a set of useful development
scripts for KDE
ii kdesktop 3.0.3-1 KDE Desktop
ii kdevelop-doc 2.1.2-0kde2.2-1 Documentation for the kdevelop
package
ii libkdegames1 3.0.3-1 KDE games library and common
files

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Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO

2002-08-20 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 10:35, Jarno Elonen wrote:

  + has scandinavian and french characters, euro sign, mathematical
characters etc.

MES-2 was mentioned. I think this would be a good goal. Perhaps cyrillic
and greek could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/mes-2-rationale.html

cheers
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kde debs + libvorbisenc2

2002-08-20 Thread Gytis
Hi
I have a debian woody and kde 2.2, and wanted to install kde3.0.3 from 
kde miror . So i added to sources list
deb http://ftp.su.de/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./
deb-src http://ftp.su.de/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./
Everything went ok , but when i tried to upgrade there were problems 
libvorbisenc2 Kioslave depends on it but it doesn't seem to be able to 
find it. Then i tried to add testing main mirrors then i got the message 
that kioslave depends on libvorbis0 and libvorbisenc2 but libvorbis0 and 
libvorbisenc2 conflict .. Any ideas how to get kde working ( i don't 
want to move or mix with sid very much) Thanx




Re: KDE 3.0.3 - liquid

2002-08-20 Thread Maximilian Reiss
Am Montag, 19. August 2002 21:37 schrieb Doug Holland:
 On Monday 19 August 2002 12:24 pm, Lars Roland Kristiansen wrote:
  Hi i seam to have the same truble with the deb version of liquid
  as there was with 3.0.2 - i can use the windows decoration but not the
  style. If i try to compile it by hand it complaints that QT headers and
  libs are not installed, altough dpkg -l | grep qt shows that the
  libqt3-dev package is installed. Anyone with who has the same problem or
  even better an solution.
 
  Anyway thanks for the 3.0.3 debs the work great-.

 My guess is that the Mosfet Liquid Style also needs to be recompiled to
 work with the newest version of the qt-mt libs.  We just need to wait for
 fresh debs.

Today

Max




Re: kde debs + libvorbisenc2

2002-08-20 Thread Gytis
Gytis wrote:
Hi
I have a debian woody and kde 2.2, and wanted to install kde3.0.3 from 
kde miror . So i added to sources list
deb http://ftp.su.de/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./
deb-src http://ftp.su.de/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./ 
that would be ftp.du.se,  not ftp.su.de .. misstyped sorry



Re: HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread gif
ok, I missed two libs on your list, libqt-dev  libqt3-odbc. Installed
them, but no change :(
Here's my current list of kderelated packages:
ii  libqt-dev  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI development headers
ii  libqt2 2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
ii  libqt2-gl  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (GL version).
ii  libqt2-mt  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded
ii  libqt3 3.0.5-3Qt GUI Library (runtime files)
ii  libqt3-mt  3.0.5-3Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime
ii  libqt3-mt-mysq 3.0.5-3Mysql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-mt-psql 3.0.5-3Postgresql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-mysql   3.0.5-3Mysql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-odbc3.0.5-3ODBC plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-psql3.0.5-3Postgresql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqtc13.0.2-0C bindings for Qt
ii  libqtc1-dev3.0.2-0C bindings for Qt (Development files)
ii  libqtcups2 2.0-4  Qt interface library for CUPS
ii  libc6  2.2.5-14   GNU C Library: Shared libraries and
ii  libc6-dev  2.2.5-14   GNU C Library: Development Libraries
ii  libgpmg1   1.19.6-12  General Purpose Mouse Library [libc6]
ii  kde-i18n-engb  3.0.3-1English (UK) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-i18n-nb3.0.3-1Norwegian (Bookmal) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-i18n-nn3.0.3-1Norwegian (Nynorsk) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-icons-crys 3.7-1  Crystal icon theme for KDE
ii  kde-theme-liqu 0.9.5-1A KDE theme featuring transparent
ii  kde-theme-liqu 0.9.5-1The splash screen from
ii  kde-theme-matt 0.2.0.1-2  Matte family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-meta 0.2.0.1-2  Metallic family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-neon 0.2.0.1-2  Neon family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-past 0.2.0.1-2  Pastel family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-swee 0.2.0.1-2  Sweetpill family of themes for KDE
ii  kdeaddons  3.0.3-1add-on plugins and applets provided
ii  kdeaddons-doc- 3.0.3-1KDE add-ons documentation in HTML
ii  kdeadmin   3.0.3-1KDE Administration tools metapackage
ii  kdeartwork 3.0.3-1themes, styles and more from the
ii  kdeartwork-mis 3.0.3-1various multimedia goodies released
ii  kdeartwork-scr 3.0.3-1screen savers released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-sty 3.0.3-1widget styles released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.0.3-1desktop themes and related goodies
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.0.3-1window decoration themes released with
ii  kdebase3.0.3-1KDE Base metapackage
ii  kdebase-bin3.0.3-1KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdebase-data   3.0.3-1KDE Base (shared data)
ii  kdebase-dev3.0.3-1KDE Base (development files)
ii  kdebindings3.0.2-0KDE Bindings metapackage
ii  kdebugdialog   3.0.3-1KDE Debug Settings
ii  kdecarddecks   3.0.3-1Card decks for KDE games
ii  kdeedu 3.0.3-1educational apps from the official KDE
ii  kdeedu-doc-htm 3.0.3-1KDE edutainment documentation in HTML
ii  kdegames   3.0.3-1KDE Games metapackage
ii  kdegraphics3.0.3-1KDE Graphics metapackage
ii  kdelibs3.0.3-1KDE core libraries metapackage
ii  kdelibs-bin3.0.3-1KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data   3.0.3-1KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs4   3.0.3-1KDE core libraries
ii  kdelibs4-dev   3.0.3-1KDE core libraries (development files)
ii  kdelibs4-doc   3.0.3-1KDE core library documentation
ii  kdemultimedia  3.0.3-1KDE Multimedia metapackage
ii  kdemultimedia- 3.0.3-1KDE Multimedia (development files)
ii  kdenetwork 3.0.3-1KDE Network metapackage
ii  kdepalettes3.0.3-1palettes that match the KDE standard
ii  kdepasswd  3.0.3-1KDE password changer
ii  kdepim 3.0.3-1KDE Personal Information Management
ii  kdepim-dev 3.0.3-1KDE Personal Information Management
ii  kdeprint   3.0.3-1KDE Print
ii  kdesdk-scripts 3.0.3-1a set of useful development scripts
ii  kdesktop   3.0.3-1KDE Desktop
ii  kdessh 3.0.3-1KDE ssh frontend
ii  kdetoys3.0.3-1toys from the official KDE release
ii  kdetoys-doc-ht 3.0.3-1KDE toys documentation in HTML format
ii  kdeutils   3.0.3-1KDE Utilities metapackage
ii  kdevelop   2.1.3-1.0  An IDE for Unix/X11
ii  kdevelop-data  2.1.3-1.0  Platform independent data files for
ii  kdevelop-doc   2.1.3-1.0  Documentation for the kdevelop package
ii  libkdec1   3.0.2-0C bindings for KDE
ii  libkdec1-dev   3.0.2-0C bindings for KDE (Development files)
ii  libkdegames-de 3.0.3-1KDE games library headers
ii  libkdegames1   3.0.3-1KDE games library and common files
ii  libkdenetwork2 3.0.3-1KDE Network (common 

Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Purcell
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Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE 3.0.3


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3.0.2 Slowness

2002-08-20 Thread Jaakko H Kyro

Hi!

I experienced a noticeable slowdown on my machine (Athlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] w/ 
128M of 
RAM), when upgrading KDE from 2.2.2 to 3.0.2. I'm using woody, with some 
unstable packages. Is the amount of memory an issue here? For example, the 
KDE startup takes something like 1m30s to a full session and starting KMail 
30s alone. This can't be normal, according to what I've read. What are the 
key issues here? My hard drive has UDMA/100 configured and working. 

-- 
Jaakko Kyrö




Re: HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread Dale Kemp
gif wrote:
ok, I missed two libs on your list, libqt-dev  libqt3-odbc. Installed
them, but no change :(
Here's my current list of kderelated packages:
ii  libqt-dev  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI development headers
ii  libqt2 2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
ii  libqt2-gl  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (GL version).
ii  libqt2-mt  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded
ii  libqt3 3.0.5-3Qt GUI Library (runtime files)
ii  libqt3-mt  3.0.5-3Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime
ii  libqt3-mt-mysq 3.0.5-3Mysql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-mt-psql 3.0.5-3Postgresql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-mysql   3.0.5-3Mysql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-odbc3.0.5-3ODBC plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-psql3.0.5-3Postgresql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqtc13.0.2-0C bindings for Qt
ii  libqtc1-dev3.0.2-0C bindings for Qt (Development files)
ii  libqtcups2 2.0-4  Qt interface library for CUPS
ii  libc6  2.2.5-14   GNU C Library: Shared libraries and
ii  libc6-dev  2.2.5-14   GNU C Library: Development Libraries
ii  libgpmg1   1.19.6-12  General Purpose Mouse Library [libc6]
ii  kde-i18n-engb  3.0.3-1English (UK) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-i18n-nb3.0.3-1Norwegian (Bookmal) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-i18n-nn3.0.3-1Norwegian (Nynorsk) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-icons-crys 3.7-1  Crystal icon theme for KDE
ii  kde-theme-liqu 0.9.5-1A KDE theme featuring transparent
ii  kde-theme-liqu 0.9.5-1The splash screen from
ii  kde-theme-matt 0.2.0.1-2  Matte family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-meta 0.2.0.1-2  Metallic family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-neon 0.2.0.1-2  Neon family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-past 0.2.0.1-2  Pastel family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-swee 0.2.0.1-2  Sweetpill family of themes for KDE
ii  kdeaddons  3.0.3-1add-on plugins and applets provided
ii  kdeaddons-doc- 3.0.3-1KDE add-ons documentation in HTML
ii  kdeadmin   3.0.3-1KDE Administration tools metapackage
ii  kdeartwork 3.0.3-1themes, styles and more from the
ii  kdeartwork-mis 3.0.3-1various multimedia goodies released
ii  kdeartwork-scr 3.0.3-1screen savers released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-sty 3.0.3-1widget styles released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.0.3-1desktop themes and related goodies
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.0.3-1window decoration themes released with
ii  kdebase3.0.3-1KDE Base metapackage
ii  kdebase-bin3.0.3-1KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdebase-data   3.0.3-1KDE Base (shared data)
ii  kdebase-dev3.0.3-1KDE Base (development files)
ii  kdebindings3.0.2-0KDE Bindings metapackage
ii  kdebugdialog   3.0.3-1KDE Debug Settings
ii  kdecarddecks   3.0.3-1Card decks for KDE games
ii  kdeedu 3.0.3-1educational apps from the official KDE
ii  kdeedu-doc-htm 3.0.3-1KDE edutainment documentation in HTML
ii  kdegames   3.0.3-1KDE Games metapackage
ii  kdegraphics3.0.3-1KDE Graphics metapackage
ii  kdelibs3.0.3-1KDE core libraries metapackage
ii  kdelibs-bin3.0.3-1KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data   3.0.3-1KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs4   3.0.3-1KDE core libraries
ii  kdelibs4-dev   3.0.3-1KDE core libraries (development files)
ii  kdelibs4-doc   3.0.3-1KDE core library documentation
ii  kdemultimedia  3.0.3-1KDE Multimedia metapackage
ii  kdemultimedia- 3.0.3-1KDE Multimedia (development files)
ii  kdenetwork 3.0.3-1KDE Network metapackage
ii  kdepalettes3.0.3-1palettes that match the KDE standard
ii  kdepasswd  3.0.3-1KDE password changer
ii  kdepim 3.0.3-1KDE Personal Information Management
ii  kdepim-dev 3.0.3-1KDE Personal Information Management
ii  kdeprint   3.0.3-1KDE Print
ii  kdesdk-scripts 3.0.3-1a set of useful development scripts
ii  kdesktop   3.0.3-1KDE Desktop
ii  kdessh 3.0.3-1KDE ssh frontend
ii  kdetoys3.0.3-1toys from the official KDE release
ii  kdetoys-doc-ht 3.0.3-1KDE toys documentation in HTML format
ii  kdeutils   3.0.3-1KDE Utilities metapackage
ii  kdevelop   2.1.3-1.0  An IDE for Unix/X11
ii  kdevelop-data  2.1.3-1.0  Platform independent data files for
ii  kdevelop-doc   2.1.3-1.0  Documentation for the kdevelop package
ii  libkdec1   3.0.2-0C bindings for KDE
ii  libkdec1-dev   3.0.2-0C bindings for KDE (Development files)
ii  libkdegames-de 3.0.3-1KDE games library headers
ii  libkdegames1   3.0.3-1KDE games library and common files
ii  libkdenetwork2 3.0.3-1KDE 

Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO

2002-08-20 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 Perhaps cyrillic
 and greek could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal.

Perhaps latin and german could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal.




Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Nick Sanders
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 11:56 am, Mark Purcell wrote:
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 Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list

 deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
 deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE 3.0.3


I think that should be 

deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/i386/





Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO

2002-08-20 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 14:07, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
  Perhaps cyrillic
  and greek could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal.
 
 Perhaps latin and german could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal.

Yo!

I would not object if a free font starts out with greek or cyrillic
letters, and other charsets added later. I would not object if some font
starts out as a ascii font with umlauts added later.

Right now Debian is not able to pick and chose from a vast number of
free high quality fonts, so denying inclusion of a font on the grounds
of incompletenes would be foolish (and there is not one complete font in
Debian right now. Unicode is quite huge... Assuming that Unicode is
accepted as 'complete' - I think this would be open to discussion, too.
And assuming the Software could even deal with proper unicode, which
most of todays software cannot - combining characters and bidi...)

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Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded (DIRTY solution)

2002-08-20 Thread Egidio Corsini
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 14:40, Nick Sanders wrote:
 On Tuesday 20 August 2002 11:56 am, Mark Purcell wrote:
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  Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list
 
  deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
  deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE
  3.0.3

 I think that should be

 deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/i386/

I had the same problem, but didn't find a nice and clean sol. So I sedded the 
packages file after apt-get update, deleting sid/i386// from files path.
Then apt-get upgrade...
It worked, but I'm a little shy posting a solution like this :)

egidio




Re: HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread gif
Dale Kemp wrote:
gif wrote:
ok, I missed two libs on your list, libqt-dev  libqt3-odbc. Installed
them, but no change :(
Here's my current list of kderelated packages:
ii  libqt-dev  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI development headers
ii  libqt2 2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
ii  libqt2-gl  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (GL version).
ii  libqt2-mt  2.3.1-22   Qt GUI Library (runtime threaded
ii  libqt3 3.0.5-3Qt GUI Library (runtime files)
ii  libqt3-mt  3.0.5-3Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime
ii  libqt3-mt-mysq 3.0.5-3Mysql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-mt-psql 3.0.5-3Postgresql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-mysql   3.0.5-3Mysql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-odbc3.0.5-3ODBC plugin for Qt3
ii  libqt3-psql3.0.5-3Postgresql database plugin for Qt3
ii  libqtc13.0.2-0C bindings for Qt
ii  libqtc1-dev3.0.2-0C bindings for Qt (Development files)
ii  libqtcups2 2.0-4  Qt interface library for CUPS
ii  libc6  2.2.5-14   GNU C Library: Shared libraries and
ii  libc6-dev  2.2.5-14   GNU C Library: Development Libraries
ii  libgpmg1   1.19.6-12  General Purpose Mouse Library [libc6]
ii  kde-i18n-engb  3.0.3-1English (UK) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-i18n-nb3.0.3-1Norwegian (Bookmal) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-i18n-nn3.0.3-1Norwegian (Nynorsk) i18n files for KDE
ii  kde-icons-crys 3.7-1  Crystal icon theme for KDE
ii  kde-theme-liqu 0.9.5-1A KDE theme featuring transparent
ii  kde-theme-liqu 0.9.5-1The splash screen from
ii  kde-theme-matt 0.2.0.1-2  Matte family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-meta 0.2.0.1-2  Metallic family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-neon 0.2.0.1-2  Neon family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-past 0.2.0.1-2  Pastel family of themes for KDE
ii  kde-theme-swee 0.2.0.1-2  Sweetpill family of themes for KDE
ii  kdeaddons  3.0.3-1add-on plugins and applets provided
ii  kdeaddons-doc- 3.0.3-1KDE add-ons documentation in HTML
ii  kdeadmin   3.0.3-1KDE Administration tools metapackage
ii  kdeartwork 3.0.3-1themes, styles and more from the
ii  kdeartwork-mis 3.0.3-1various multimedia goodies released
ii  kdeartwork-scr 3.0.3-1screen savers released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-sty 3.0.3-1widget styles released with KDE
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.0.3-1desktop themes and related goodies
ii  kdeartwork-the 3.0.3-1window decoration themes released with
ii  kdebase3.0.3-1KDE Base metapackage
ii  kdebase-bin3.0.3-1KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdebase-data   3.0.3-1KDE Base (shared data)
ii  kdebase-dev3.0.3-1KDE Base (development files)
ii  kdebindings3.0.2-0KDE Bindings metapackage
ii  kdebugdialog   3.0.3-1KDE Debug Settings
ii  kdecarddecks   3.0.3-1Card decks for KDE games
ii  kdeedu 3.0.3-1educational apps from the official KDE
ii  kdeedu-doc-htm 3.0.3-1KDE edutainment documentation in HTML
ii  kdegames   3.0.3-1KDE Games metapackage
ii  kdegraphics3.0.3-1KDE Graphics metapackage
ii  kdelibs3.0.3-1KDE core libraries metapackage
ii  kdelibs-bin3.0.3-1KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data   3.0.3-1KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs4   3.0.3-1KDE core libraries
ii  kdelibs4-dev   3.0.3-1KDE core libraries (development files)
ii  kdelibs4-doc   3.0.3-1KDE core library documentation
ii  kdemultimedia  3.0.3-1KDE Multimedia metapackage
ii  kdemultimedia- 3.0.3-1KDE Multimedia (development files)
ii  kdenetwork 3.0.3-1KDE Network metapackage
ii  kdepalettes3.0.3-1palettes that match the KDE standard
ii  kdepasswd  3.0.3-1KDE password changer
ii  kdepim 3.0.3-1KDE Personal Information Management
ii  kdepim-dev 3.0.3-1KDE Personal Information Management
ii  kdeprint   3.0.3-1KDE Print
ii  kdesdk-scripts 3.0.3-1a set of useful development scripts
ii  kdesktop   3.0.3-1KDE Desktop
ii  kdessh 3.0.3-1KDE ssh frontend
ii  kdetoys3.0.3-1toys from the official KDE release
ii  kdetoys-doc-ht 3.0.3-1KDE toys documentation in HTML format
ii  kdeutils   3.0.3-1KDE Utilities metapackage
ii  kdevelop   2.1.3-1.0  An IDE for Unix/X11
ii  kdevelop-data  2.1.3-1.0  Platform independent data files for
ii  kdevelop-doc   2.1.3-1.0  Documentation for the kdevelop package
ii  libkdec1   3.0.2-0C bindings for KDE
ii  libkdec1-dev   3.0.2-0C bindings for KDE (Development files)
ii  libkdegames-de 3.0.3-1KDE games library headers
ii  libkdegames1   3.0.3-1KDE games library and common files
ii  libkdenetwork2 3.0.3-1  

Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Andre Stein
Hi,
Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE 3.0.3

I think that should be 

deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/i386/
It doesn't matter whether you write '~branden/sid/i386 ./' or '~branden/ 
sid/i386' .. apt-get will always find the needed packages :)

Cheers,
André.
--
http://www.steinsoft.net
cout  Happy Coding!  endl;



Re: HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread Dale Kemp

How about kwin? This contains the startkde scripts.
yes, kwin is installed - version 3.0.3-1
I attached the long list with everything that has KDE in the 
description...

.gif
Ok... Those ideas failed.
Try logging in with failsafe and running the pieces from the script, if you
get the same run it with strace to find out what libraries its trying to 
use.
Can't think of much else sorry.

Dale.
--
sig = 0xda1e;




Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO

2002-08-20 Thread Emanuele Gissi
Il 17:21, lunedì 19 agosto 2002, Fred K Ollinger ha scritto:
  I read today that Microsoft doesn't offer any more its ttf for free.
  So I deinstalled the mssttcorefonts package.

 They only took it down on their site. They can't change the license,

Thanks to everybody for the fast reply.
Ah, very well. I reinstalled MS fonts.

So, next question: how to tell my system to use Arial font instead of
Helvetica, when X-clients ask for Helvetica?
I added the following line to /etc/X11/Xftconfig:

match any family == Helvetica edit family = Arial;

but it did not work...

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Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Egidio Corsini
Are you sure?

On 15:00, martedì 20 agosto 2002, Andre Stein wrote:
 Hi,

 Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list
 
 deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
 deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE
  3.0.3
 
  I think that should be
 
  deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/i386/

 It doesn't matter whether you write '~branden/sid/i386 ./' or '~branden/
 sid/i386' .. apt-get will always find the needed packages :)

 Cheers,
 André.




Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Egidio Corsini
On 14:54, lunedì 19 agosto 2002, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:50:23PM +0200, Linus Gasser wrote:
deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./
 
  gives
 
Failed to fetch

 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian/./Packages

Unable to fetch file, server said
'/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian/./Packages.gz: No such file or

 directory.  '

  is all I get... Did you leave out the Packages.gz file on purpose, so

 we have

  to get them all by hand and do dpkg -i kde* arts* on it? I'm getting

 used to

  the great comfortability of debian!`

 Hi,
 As I said earlier, the mirror isn't updated yet; it only exists on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] It'll be updated soon.

Will there be a ppc debian version?






Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Nick Sanders
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 2:00 pm, Andre Stein wrote:
 Hi,

 Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list
 
 deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
 deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE
  3.0.3
 
  I think that should be
 
  deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/i386/

 It doesn't matter whether you write '~branden/sid/i386 ./' or '~branden/
 sid/i386' .. apt-get will always find the needed packages :)


Try it, honestly the first line doesn't work maybe they have changed something 
recently. In both cases the Packages.gz file is found but with the first one 
the apt can't find the actual packages.

Anyway I would definitely recommend them there is a noticeable speed 
improvement on my computer

Nick




Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Rob Lensen
Op Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:23:27 +1000
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:

 (Note: I'm not subscribed to -kde, so please CC me on all replies).
 
 Hi all,
 I've uploaded some semi-official (as in, cleared with Chris) KDE 3.0.3
 packages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which should propagate to
 ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian soon, and then to your
 favourite mirror. All the packages are in there, even kdegames and
 friends (which will promptly disappear if other-Daniel makes his own,
 ditto Ben). The new sources line is:
 deb http://your.mirror.here/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./
 

Why are there no source packages?
Or are they planned to upload in the near futere?

Greetings
Rob
-- 
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  __  /*-Rob Lensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]-*\  __
  \ '/  Enschede, The Netherlands\' /
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Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:53:20PM +0200, Rob Lensen wrote:
 Op Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:23:27 +1000
 Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
  (Note: I'm not subscribed to -kde, so please CC me on all replies).
  
  Hi all,
  I've uploaded some semi-official (as in, cleared with Chris) KDE 3.0.3
  packages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which should propagate to
  ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian soon, and then to your
  favourite mirror. All the packages are in there, even kdegames and
  friends (which will promptly disappear if other-Daniel makes his own,
  ditto Ben). The new sources line is:
  deb http://your.mirror.here/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./
  
 
 Why are there no source packages?
 Or are they planned to upload in the near futere?

The source packages are there, with the binaries. Some mirrors have an
incomplete copy.

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Re: KDE 3 and PowerPC (was: Re: KDE 3.0.2 problem)

2002-08-20 Thread Egidio Corsini
I'm back. I apt-update yesterday crolssing my fingers and hoping for a ppc kde 
3.0.2 version.
Nothing. Instead an updated qt 3.0.5 version... but new version old problems!
So probably we could try to compile the brand new 3.0.3 kde.
I've downloaded the tarballs from kde.us.themoes.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3 and 
started compiling arts-1.0.3

Unfortunately the debs produced were 1.0.2 version. Same with kdelibs 3.0.3 is 
producing 3.0.2. Any ideas?

egidio

On 20:36, venerdì 2 agosto 2002, Rogério Brito wrote:
 On Aug 02 2002, Egidio Corsini wrote:
  Thanks to all. Finally this computer is working hard...
  I'll see if everything works fine.

   Well, if there are enough people interested in this, maybe we
   could set up something to coordinate the compilation of the
   packages, since they take a lt of time to compile.

   But then, it may not be worth it, if KDE 3 is entering
   unstable soon (is it?).


   []s, Roger...

 P.S.: I'm currently not subscribed to d-kde. Please respect the
 Mail-Followup-To field on headers.




Re: KDE 3 and PowerPC (was: Re: KDE 3.0.2 problem)

2002-08-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 16:21, Egidio Corsini wrote:
 I'm back. I apt-update yesterday crolssing my fingers and hoping for a ppc 
 kde 
 3.0.2 version.
 Nothing. Instead an updated qt 3.0.5 version... but new version old problems!
 So probably we could try to compile the brand new 3.0.3 kde.
 I've downloaded the tarballs from kde.us.themoes.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3 and 
 started compiling arts-1.0.3
 
 Unfortunately the debs produced were 1.0.2 version. Same with kdelibs 3.0.3 
 is 
 producing 3.0.2. Any ideas?

Might be as simple as adding an entry with the correct version to
debian/changelog. I usually do that with the emacs changelog mode from
dpkg-dev-el, dch from devscripts is also handy.


-- 
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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast




Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded (DIRTY solution)

2002-08-20 Thread Quenten Griffith
I am doing an apt-get install kde and I get a bunch of unmet 
dependencies such as

kde: Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not going to be installed because of 
unmet dependencies

Not sure why I am running testing, and I put unstable in my source.list 
file so it could pull the files it needed from there.  Xfree upgraded 
just fine though.  Do I need to be running a full fledge unstable system?

Egidio Corsini wrote:
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 14:40, Nick Sanders wrote:
 

On Tuesday 20 August 2002 11:56 am, Mark Purcell wrote:
   

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Try the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/sid/i386 ./   # XFree4.2
deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./   # KDE
3.0.3
 

I think that should be
deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/ sid/i386/
   

I had the same problem, but didn't find a nice and clean sol. So I sedded the 
packages file after apt-get update, deleting sid/i386// from files path.
Then apt-get upgrade...
It worked, but I'm a little shy posting a solution like this :)

egidio
 





Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Dirk Schmidt
Am Dienstag, 20. August 2002 15:57 schrieb Daniel Stone:
 On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:53:20PM +0200, Rob Lensen wrote:
  Why are there no source packages?
  Or are they planned to upload in the near futere?

 The source packages are there, with the binaries. Some mirrors have an
 incomplete copy.

Well, even on master.kde.org or ftp.kde.org there are just a few source debs 
available.
If you know an other server with the complete apt-getable sources, please let 
us know.


Dirk




koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
Hi,
I've just changed my KDE 2.2.2 to 3.0.2. Everything went (almost) fine, but I 
couldnt find any APT sources for koffice.
Can any of you give me a hand?
Many thanks
Vlada




Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded (DIRTY solution)

2002-08-20 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 20 August 2002 15:42, Quenten Griffith wrote:
 I am doing an apt-get install kde and I get a bunch of unmet
 dependencies such as

 kde: Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not going to be installed because of
 unmet dependencies

 Not sure why I am running testing, and I put unstable in my source.list
 file so it could pull the files it needed from there.  Xfree upgraded
 just fine though.  Do I need to be running a full fledge unstable system?

There is not currently a meta-package to install kde3, where there was one 
with kde2 (the package kde).

Try apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase and apt-get upgrade.

More information on #debian-kde (freenode), http://calc.cx/kde.txt and in the 
archives.

Paul Cupis
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Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
Dne úterý, 20. srpen 2002 19:28 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
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 On Tuesday 20 August 2002 17:24, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
  Hi,
  I've just changed my KDE 2.2.2 to 3.0.2. Everything went (almost) fine,
  but I couldnt find any APT sources for koffice.

   deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
I'm sorry, but this one I have in my APT-sources, but without any success.
Vlada

 Paul Cupis
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Woody's kcminit crashes at startup

2002-08-20 Thread Garrick James
I have an IBM a31p laptop on which I am trying to install Debian 3.0 (aka
woody).  ALL packages are official, stock Debian 3.0 r0 packages.  I have X
configured and working (using the VESA xfree86 driver, as 4.1 does not have
a native driver for the video card).

My next step in setting up Debian on this machine is to get KDE installed
and working (woody's stock KDE only! -- testing/unstable packages need not
apply).  Everything falls apart at this point.  :-(

KDE crashes in the middle of it's startup cycle.  It doesn't matter how I
try to start it; it always crashes at the same point (just as ksplash moves
to Initializing Peripherals).  I've tried starting KDE via KDM, startx,
even from a failsafe X session.  It always crashes.

I've tracked the problem down to kcminit from the following line in
/usr/bin/kde2:

LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

I can't find any logs anywhere as to why kcminit is dieing.  Does anyone
have any ideas?

Please CC me, as I am not subscribed to the list.

Thanks,
Garrick James




Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
Dne úterý, 20. srpen 2002 20:25 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
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 On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:05, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
  Dne úterý, 20. srpen 2002 19:28 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
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   On Tuesday 20 August 2002 17:24, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
Hi,
I've just changed my KDE 2.2.2 to 3.0.2. Everything went (almost)
fine, but I couldnt find any APT sources for koffice.
  
 deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
 
  I'm sorry, but this one I have in my APT-sources, but without any
  success.

 Well they are there. Could you post the exact error you are encountering,
 please?

 Paul Cupis
Yes, of course:
dunadan:/home/kerka# apt-get -u install koffice
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: karbon but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kformula but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kontour but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kivio but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: koshell but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kpresenter but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kspread but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kugar but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kword but it is not going to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages
That's it.
Many thanks for your help.
Vlada




How to install KDE 3.0?

2002-08-20 Thread Julien Louis
Hello,
I'm sorry for this stupid question but I don't know how to install KDE 3
on my system. The last time I would install it, I lost all my window
managers, and KDM wouldn't start. Must I purge and remove all my KDE
2.2.2 packages?
Thanks
-- 
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-- Flaubert, Gustave ; Dictionnaire des idées reçues




Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:50, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
 Dne úterý, 20. srpen 2002 20:25 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
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  On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:05, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
   Dne úterý, 20. srpen 2002 19:28 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
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On Tuesday 20 August 2002 17:24, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
 Hi,
 I've just changed my KDE 2.2.2 to 3.0.2. Everything went (almost)
 fine, but I couldnt find any APT sources for koffice.
   
  deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
  
   I'm sorry, but this one I have in my APT-sources, but without any
   success.
 
  Well they are there. Could you post the exact error you are encountering,
  please?
 
  Paul Cupis

 Yes, of course:
 dunadan:/home/kerka# apt-get -u install koffice
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.

 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
 that package should be filed.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:

 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
Depends: karbon but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kformula but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kontour but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kivio but it is not going to be installed
Depends: koshell but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kpresenter but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kspread but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kugar but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kword but it is not going to be installed
 E: Sorry, broken packages
 That's it.
 Many thanks for your help.

Can you please post the output of the following commands?

  apt-get install koffice -t unstable
  apt-get install kword
  apt-cache show koffice | grep koffice
  apt-cache policy koffice

These should provide more information so we can help you.

Thank you.

Paul Cupis
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Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Amir Tal
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 21:50, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
 Dne ter, 20. srpen 2002 20:25 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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  On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:05, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
   Dne ter, 20. srpen 2002 19:28 Paul Cupis napsal(a):
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
   
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 17:24, Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
 Hi,
 I've just changed my KDE 2.2.2 to 3.0.2. Everything went (almost)
 fine, but I couldnt find any APT sources for koffice.
   
  deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
  
   I'm sorry, but this one I have in my APT-sources, but without any
   success.
 
  Well they are there. Could you post the exact error you are encountering,
  please?
 
  Paul Cupis

 Yes, of course:
 dunadan:/home/kerka# apt-get -u install koffice
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.

 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
 that package should be filed.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:

 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
Depends: karbon but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kformula but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kontour but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kivio but it is not going to be installed
Depends: koshell but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kpresenter but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kspread but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kugar but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kword but it is not going to be installed
 E: Sorry, broken packages
 That's it.
 Many thanks for your help.
 Vlada

i guess this is because it requires kdelibs, older version :
koffice-libs: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.2-1)

if you are using kde 3.0.2, the you have kdelibs4. 
you will have to wait a few days untill there will be new debs for kde 3.0.2 
(and above)

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Re: How to install KDE 3.0?

2002-08-20 Thread Amir Tal
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 21:50, Julien Louis wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm sorry for this stupid question but I don't know how to install KDE 3
 on my system. The last time I would install it, I lost all my window
 managers, and KDM wouldn't start. Must I purge and remove all my KDE
 2.2.2 packages?
 Thanks

no you dont.
add to your /etc/apt/sources.list :
deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./

run apt-get update and then apt-get -s upgrade. you will see whats gonna be 
upgraded.

after that you can run apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the new kde.
i am suggesting you to do this from init 3 (not from X, while kde is running)

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Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Jarno Elonen
 Some mirrors have an incomplete copy.

Speaking of mirrors; could you post a complete list of them so that we could 
pick the nearest one?

- Jarno




Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:56, Paul Cupis wrote:

   apt-cache show koffice | grep koffice

Uh,

  apt-cache show koffice | grep Version

The output from that command would be infinitely more useful. Sorry.

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Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
Dne úterý, 20. srpen 2002 21:08 Paul Cupis napsal(a):

 On Tuesday 20 August 2002 19:56, Paul Cupis wrote:
apt-cache show koffice | grep koffice

 Uh,

   apt-cache show koffice | grep Version
dunadan:/home/kerka# apt-cache show koffice | grep Version
Version: 1:1.2-rc1-1
Version: 1:1.1.1-7

 The output from that command would be infinitely more useful. Sorry.

I'm very glad you are solving my problem, so it's not necessary to apologise.
Thank you one more.
Vlada




Re: How to install KDE 3.0?

2002-08-20 Thread Julien Louis
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:02:02PM +0300, Amir Tal wrote:
 
 no you dont.
 add to your /etc/apt/sources.list :
 deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
 
 run apt-get update and then apt-get -s upgrade. you will see whats gonna be 
 upgraded.
 
 after that you can run apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the new kde.
 i am suggesting you to do this from init 3 (not from X, while kde is running)
 

Thanks, now it works fine after apt-get install arts kdebase kdelibs4
besause apt-get dist-upgrade wouldn't work (dependency problems).
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Re: HELP! DCOP communication error!

2002-08-20 Thread gif
Dale Kemp wrote:

How about kwin? This contains the startkde scripts.
yes, kwin is installed - version 3.0.3-1
I attached the long list with everything that has KDE in the 
description...

.gif
Ok... Those ideas failed.
Try logging in with failsafe and running the pieces from the script, if you
get the same run it with strace to find out what libraries its trying to 
use.
Can't think of much else sorry.

Dale.
Thanks for yor help so far! Even though there's no solution yet, I feel like 
getting closer..:)
The strange thing is that it seems like a lot of people have had similar 
problems, but I haven't found any good solutions yet.
Anyway, after a lot of fiddleing I managed to get an strace on kwin as you 
suggest. The trace is attached. Doesn't make me much wiser though...

.gif
1204  execve(/usr/bin/kwin, [kwin], [/* 20 vars */]) = 0
1204  uname({sys=Linux, node=debbie, ...}) = 0
1204  brk(0)= 0x80497d4
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0x40013000
1204  open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY) = 3
1204  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=69521, ...}) = 0
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 69521, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40014000
1204  close(3)  = 0
1204  open(/lib/i686/mmx/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  stat64(/lib/i686/mmx, 0xbfffef14) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  open(/lib/i686/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  stat64(/lib/i686, 0xbfffef14)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
1204  open(/lib/mmx/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
1204  stat64(/lib/mmx, 0xbfffef14)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
1204  open(/lib/kwin.so, O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
1204  stat64(/lib, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
1204  open(/usr/lib/i686/mmx/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  stat64(/usr/lib/i686/mmx, 0xbfffef14) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  open(/usr/lib/i686/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  stat64(/usr/lib/i686, 0xbfffef14) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  open(/usr/lib/mmx/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
1204  stat64(/usr/lib/mmx, 0xbfffef14) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
1204  open(/usr/lib/kwin.so, O_RDONLY) = 3
1204  read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\330..., 
1024) = 1024
1204  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=324016, ...}) = 0
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 323400, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x40025000
1204  mprotect(0x40071000, 12104, PROT_NONE) = 0
1204  old_mmap(0x40071000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x4c000) = 0x40071000
1204  close(3)  = 0
1204  open(/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
1204  read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0P\255\v..., 
1024) = 1024
1204  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1843172, ...}) = 0
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 1846428, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x40074000
1204  mprotect(0x40216000, 134300, PROT_NONE) = 0
1204  old_mmap(0x40216000, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x1a2000) = 0x40216000
1204  old_mmap(0x40236000, 3228, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40236000
1204  close(3)  = 0
1204  open(/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
1204  read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320\226..., 
1024) = 1024
1204  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1248868, ...}) = 0
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 1256840, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x40237000
1204  mprotect(0x4035f000, 44424, PROT_NONE) = 0
1204  old_mmap(0x4035f000, 36864, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x128000) = 0x4035f000
1204  old_mmap(0x40368000, 7560, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40368000
1204  close(3)  = 0
1204  open(/usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
1204  read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0P\305\0..., 
1024) = 1024
1204  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=172356, ...}) = 0
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 178868, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 
0x4036a000
1204  mprotect(0x40393000, 10932, PROT_NONE) = 0
1204  old_mmap(0x40393000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
3, 0x29000) = 0x40393000
1204  old_mmap(0x40394000, 6836, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40394000
1204  close(3)  = 0
1204  open(/lib/libdl.so.2, O_RDONLY) = 3
1204  read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0D\27\0\000..., 
1024) = 1024
1204  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=7988, ...}) = 0
1204  old_mmap(NULL, 10984, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, 

Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:14:49PM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote:
  Some mirrors have an incomplete copy.
 
 Speaking of mirrors; could you post a complete list of them so that we could 
 pick the nearest one?

ftp://ktown.kde.org will always have the most up-to-date version. There
should be a mirror pulse (it may have already been) any second now.

http://download.country code.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian,
should work.

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Re: koffice is missing

2002-08-20 Thread bruno randolf
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 You'll have to update to KDE 3.0.3

 I found 3.0.3 packages at
 deb ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian ./

 You should be able to find them at any KDE mirror.

and - if you're using a mixed testing/unstable setup, then you have to 

wajig install koffice -t 

which was giving me a headache, because the new koffice debs just seemed 
disappeared when i was using wajig install koffice or wajig install 
koffice -t unstable

just replace wajig with apt-get, if you dont use wajig, btw.

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Re: KDE 3.0.3 packages uploaded

2002-08-20 Thread Nick Boyce
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:44:55 +0200, Dirk Schmidt wrote:

Am Montag, 19. August 2002 15:14 schrieb Daniel Stone:
  Will be these packages installable on Woody/stable or there are
  dependencies from the testing/unstable repository as with 3.0.2 kde debs
  from http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./ ?

 It's compiled against unstable (sid), however you can use it on testing
 by pulling a couple of packages back from unstable (apt-get -f install).

 Sadly, however, one of those packages is the new libc6, and you'll need
 to pull a new apache, etc, for that.

What do you think about compiling 3.0.3 on woody against the woody's libraries 
and sid's qt3.0.5? I do not want to mix up woody and sid too much -especially 
libc.

AOLme too/AOL

Ah .. it seems cheeky to ask, but I'd really like to see packages
compiled against vanilla Woody too.  
(new libc ... scary stuff .. mumble ..)

Is it possible ?

Is the new libc required because of the switch to gcc 3.2 ?
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If so, can we use gcc 2.95 instead (as well) ?

With the reported speedups and all in KDE3, surely the credibility of
Debian's premier just-released stable version would benefit from KDE
3.0.3 being in the optional feature set.

Quite apart from the speedups and doodads, there's that
oh-so-important Konqui-SSL fix.  If a Woody KDE 3.0.3 isn't possible,
would it be possible for someone to produce a binary deb of the
patched 2.2.2 version of kdelibs-kssl ?

(Actually, shouldn't a 2.2.2 fixed kdelibs-kssl appear as a Debian
security fix ?)

Okay okay - Chris  Daniel gotta have a life - I'll shut up :)

[ Hey if I can provide manual labour I'm happy to help, but I'm only a
novice C++ programmer so I'd have to be led most steps of the way :( ]

Cheers,
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KDE 3.0.3 problem with Kpackage

2002-08-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
When I try to launch Kpackage since upgrading to 3.0.3, I get the
message KDEInit could not launch 'kpackage'

Anyone else with a similar problem?  Any ideas?

Thanks
Michael Sullivan