Slightly OT: Debian + ext3 - Sid
Forgive the slightly off-topic nature of this post, but I am in the process of building a computer for a friend and was planning on installing Debian (Sid) on it. As I understand it, I first need to download the Woody boot disks, do a bare minimum installation, change the lines in sources.list to unstable, and apt-get -dist-upgrade away. However, I have two questions: does the default Woody installation support ext3, or do I need to get some special ISOs for that? I found some older documentation that suggested the latter, but more recent information would be appreciated. Secondly, has anyone used PGI to install Debian? I would be interested in comments, since I would prefer to have some automatic hardware detection and PGI seems (in theory) pretty decent. And yes, I will install KDE3 on it! :) :Peter
Re: Slightly OT: Debian + ext3 - Sid
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:04:33PM -0500, Peter Clark wrote: Forgive the slightly off-topic nature of this post, but I am in the process of building a computer for a friend and was planning on installing Debian (Sid) on it. As I understand it, I first need to download the Woody boot disks, do a bare minimum installation, change the lines in sources.list to unstable, and apt-get -dist-upgrade away. However, I have two questions: does the default Woody installation support ext3, or do I need to get some special ISOs for that? If you use the bf2.4 version boot then you can use ext3. I found some older documentation that suggested the latter, but more recent information would be appreciated. Secondly, has anyone used PGI to install Debian? I would be interested in comments, since I would prefer to have some automatic hardware detection and PGI seems (in theory) pretty decent. I don't know anything about PGI. Chris
using ifile with kmail?
Has anyone set up ifile for use with kmail? If so do you have any configuration tips?
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:32:59PM -0400, Fred K Ollinger wrote: Is telnetd running? If so you probably should replace it w/ ssh, but if you need telnet: apt-get install telnetd What about telnetd-ssl? If all you need is basic commandline access, shouldn't this suffice? Just wondering. Andy
kdm and sessreg
Hi! I've a question about the user registration during login. Maybe someone can give me a hint ;-) Theres a use-sessreg in /etc/kde2/kdm/kdm.options which should cause Xstartup to exec sessreg with some parameters. Somehow I don't see any (X) users when calling who while there should be about 20 logged in, happily using kde via remote X. Are there any traps I stumbled in, is Xstartup not executed for remote sessions,or is just something wrong with sessreg? Thanks, -Cajus
Testing: libqt packages break kde3 styles
Previously someone mentioned that the libqt-mt -packages in unstable prevent all kde3 styles from working. Just now I ran an update for testing and presumably these libqt -packages have gotten into testing as for my self-compiled (working) kde3 all the styles have stopped working. Is there any way to somehow get the old library packages or do I have to wait for a fix or compile qt3 myself? -- _ Kimmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: Debian + ext3 - Sid
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:04:33PM -0500, Peter Clark wrote: Forgive the slightly off-topic nature of this post, but I am in the process of building a computer for a friend and was planning on installing Debian (Sid) on it. As I understand it, I first need to download the Woody boot disks, do a bare minimum installation, change the lines in sources.list to unstable, and apt-get -dist-upgrade away. However, I have two questions: does the default Woody installation support ext3, or do I need to get some special ISOs for that? If you use the bf2.4 version boot then you can use ext3. Although, if you have an existing installation of woody using ext2, only, you can convert over highly painlessly: tune2fs -j /dev/mypart Do this for all partitions. Then change ext2 to ext3 in /etc/fstab. Install an ext3 supporting kernel. Then upon reboot, you will be in ext3. Very painless. I found some older documentation that suggested the latter, but more recent information would be appreciated. Secondly, has anyone used PGI to install Debian? I would be interested in comments, since I would prefer to have some automatic hardware detection and PGI seems (in theory) pretty decent. Use knoppix rescue disk to find modules. Write down output of lsmod. Now use normal installer. PGI really sucks, IMHO, unless you like a pretty desktop ala Red Hat. It installs tons of packages in an undebian-like way. It does give you apt in the end, so I guess it's a good compromise for desktop users. Libranet has a free download now of an older installer that can painlessly be upgraded to woody, so this can be used as well if you fear the debian installer. :) Fred
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:32:59PM -0400, Fred K Ollinger wrote: Is telnetd running? If so you probably should replace it w/ ssh, but if you need telnet: apt-get install telnetd What about telnetd-ssl? If all you need is basic commandline access, shouldn't this suffice? Are there ways to connect to this from windows/macos. This is important if one is on the road away from the comforts of home: linux. :) Fred
Global settings
Hi all! There are a couple of things that I haven't understood about KDE. I'm BTW, using the KDE 3.0.3 builds for Woody. How can I config KDE applications for all users on my system? I'm setting up a new GNU/Linux box for my parents, based on Woody, with KDE 3 as desktop enviroment, Mozilla 1.1 for browsing and OO 1.0.1 as Office apps. One thing they hate is being asked questions they don't know how to answer, and they have no clue how to figure things out. So I do everything for them. I hope to avoid editing in each individual .kde/share/config directory. There are many things that are common, and that they would hardly ever change, such as the name and configuration of the POP-servers in KMail. I've been tweaking /etc/kde3/kmailrc but it had no appreciable effect. Do these files only mean something for new accounts? In addition to configure things now, I expect to need to fix things at some later point, like when there is a application/ogg MIME type. OTOH, they should be allowed to override my default settings if they want to. So, if anybody could tell me where to edit, I would be very happy, and my parents would probably too! :-) BTW, I'm wondering about pretty much the same thing with Mozilla, just in case sombody knows (but I realize that it is the wrong forum). Best, Kjetil -- Kjetil Kjernsmo Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/
Re: xmmsarts in 3.0.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi i asked the same some weeks ago ;) there is an updated package available at: http://people.debian.org/~cmb/ which works fine. br1 On Tuesday 15 October 2002 15:51, Alex Polite wrote: I just moved to kde 3.0.3 on my woody/sid box. cudos to the packagers. Has anyone got xmmsarts working? apt-get install xmmsarts at place yields snip Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: xmmsarts: Depends: libarts-alsa (= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be installed or libarts (= 4:2.2.2-1) E: Sorry, broken packages /snip -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9rDyMqCK9CeX6cL8RAhrRAJ96Ya1Wp9/3PaZ4TAKZdhOBKitGKwCgw1tm StGoKyZ8UNFpYhH7UDnbxio= =7fzK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xmmsarts in 3.0.3
On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 14:51, Alex Polite wrote: Has anyone got xmmsarts working? apt-get install xmmsarts at place yields There's an updated package at: http://people.debian.org/~cmb/ (I can't put it in unstable yet because KDE 3 isn't there.) Hope this helps, -- Chris Boyle - Debian Developer (cmb) - aewm++, sapphire, xmmsarts GPG: B7D86E0F, MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ: 24151961, AIM: kerneloops, Yahoo: kerneloops, IRC: cmb on openprojects.net
Re: Testing: libqt packages break kde3 styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. Oktober 2002 16:39 schrieb Kimmo Koskinen: Previously someone mentioned that the libqt-mt -packages in unstable prevent all kde3 styles from working. Just now I ran an update for testing and presumably these libqt -packages have gotten into testing as for my self-compiled (working) kde3 all the styles have stopped working. Is there any way to somehow get the old library packages or do I have to wait for a fix or compile qt3 myself? Cannot be: I run testing and KDE3.0.4 from download.uk.kde.org with additional Liquid-Style and all styles are shown and presumingly working. HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9rEaVzvr6q9zCwcERAsxXAJ9pCeY1JbhfqlcOVDa43EK7gxDIzQCguLoi gX/UKBFno2dMHp/v+QqB96A= =rTvM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 15:53, Fred K Ollinger wrote: Are there ways to connect to this from windows/macos. This is important if one is on the road away from the comforts of home: linux. :) For Windows try PuTTY: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Don't know about MacOS. Richard -- Currently playing: Suede - Daddy's Speeding
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
--- I don't know how World War 3 will be fought, but I know that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones! On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Fred K Ollinger wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:32:59PM -0400, Fred K Ollinger wrote: Is telnetd running? If so you probably should replace it w/ ssh, but if you need telnet: apt-get install telnetd What about telnetd-ssl? If all you need is basic commandline access, shouldn't this suffice? Are there ways to connect to this from windows/macos. This is important if one is on the road away from the comforts of home: linux. :) Fred There's a program called PuTTy which runs under Windows, which allows you to ssh to linux/unix machines. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ I use, and it's really great. Catalin A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
There's a program called PuTTy which runs under Windows, which allows you to ssh to linux/unix machines. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ I use, and it's really great. I know about PuTTy, I was asking about telnet-ssl. I was mainly curious, and hoping to get help from the person who said that telnet-ssl is a good solution. I think that it might be, but I was wondering how to access this when on the road. Does PuTTy do telnet-ssl, too? Thanks. Fred
Re: Global settings
Quoting Kjetil Kjernsmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are many things that are common, and that they would hardly ever change, such as the name and configuration of the POP-servers in KMail. I've been tweaking /etc/kde3/kmailrc but it had no appreciable effect. Do these files only mean something for new accounts? In addition to configure things now, I expect to need to fix things at some later point, like when there is a application/ogg MIME type. OTOH, they should be allowed to override my default settings if they want to. So, if anybody could tell me where to edit, I would be very happy, and my parents would probably too! :-) My suggestion would be to create one account, and then make all the changes that you want to it (such as typing in the names of the POP servers, etc.), and then copying the entire .kde (and .mozilla) directory to /etc/skel/. Then, you can create new accounts that will be perfect replicas of the original, requiring only minor tweaking for individual preferences (like email address and the like). Or did I misunderstand the question? :Peter
Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE 3.0.4
Those lucky Debian users;) can download and play with the recent Gideon (Kdevelop Alpha1) snapshot package... Link to download: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian#gideon Cheers, Tamas PS: Dear Kdevelop webmaster: please indicate the Debian packages as well on the download page... Thanks! PS: ++ indicates the recent changes in CVS only...
kspread: no more date format - i18n related?
Hi, I was successfully using the series ability and the Drag and Copy method with dates: 18-Feb-00 25-Feb-00 Drag and Copy: 18-Feb-02 25-Feb-02 4-Mar-02 11-Mar-02 18-Mar-02 25-Mar-02 1-Apr-02 Wonderful. Only that it was in English, and I needed it in German. So I installed kde-i18n-de. Because of package conflicts the package kdebase-i18n was removed. Restarting kspread and trying the series ability with dates again gave the following result: 18-Feb-02 25-Feb-02 18-Feb-02 25-Feb-02 18-Feb-02 25-Feb-02 18-Feb-02 25-Feb-02 That of course wasn't what I wanted. Trying around I found that the formating ability for dates was lost. This seems to be the source of the problem! I removed kde-i18n-de - no help. I tried to reinstall kdebase-i18n - I didn't find it anymore. I have kde 3.0.4 under debian woody. My questions: 1. Where could I find kdebase-i18n again? 2. Could this problem - as it seems - indeed be internationalization related? 3. Is it a known problem? 4. Any suggestion how I could resolve the problem? 5. Could it be, that I make something wrong? 6. Should I ask in another list? Thanks a lot in advance! Andreas Goesele
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
On 15 Oct 2002 18:22:58 +0100 Richard Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 15:53, Fred K Ollinger wrote: Are there ways to connect to this from windows/macos. This is important if one is on the road away from the comforts of home: linux. :) For Windows try PuTTY: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Don't know about MacOS. For OsX ssh is standard. Just start a terminal and ssh your machine James -- James Tappin, O__ I forget the punishment for using [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy
Re: kspread: no more date format - i18n related?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 15 October 2002 22:03, Andreas Goesele wrote: [snip] I installed kde-i18n-de. Because of package conflicts the package kdebase-i18n was removed. [snip] I removed kde-i18n-de - no help. I tried to reinstall kdebase-i18n - I didn't find it anymore. [snip] 1. Where could I find kdebase-i18n again? A little history: Package: kde-i18n-engb Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 4028 Maintainer: Noel Koethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Source: kde-i18n Version: 4:2.2.2-3 Replaces: kdebase-i18n, kde-i18n Provides: kde-i18n Suggests: kdebase, kde Conflicts: kdebase-i18n Package: kde-i18n-engb Source: kde-i18n Version: 4:3.0.3-1 Priority: optional Section: x11 Maintainer: Christopher L Cheney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suggests: kdebase, kde Thus, I surmise that you should try and install kde-i18n-engb, not kdebase-i18n (which used to be a virtual package). Please let us know if this solves the problem (can you use Drag'n'Copy with this package installed?) Thanks Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9rJIKIzuKV+SHX/kRAma5AJ9T7vqqbiZs1dXHAe1qgeiJk9k/BwCeLO+x SNcW4TVyRpcHUfGi3SoSyew= =gasx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Not able to connect to my system at home from work
Are there ways to connect to this from windows/macos. This is important if one is on the road away from the comforts of home: linux. :) For Windows try PuTTY: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Have a look at Mindterm which runs as a Java Applet on your favourite Web-Server! :-) Michael
Kde 3.1beta2 printer search problem
Hello, I first ask this on the debian kde list because I use the kde 3.1beta2 package's from http://shakti.ath.cx/debian/ . The problem is when I try to ad a network printer via the cups printing system it refuses to search the network. When I press scan nothing happens. The network range is OK. Under kde 3.0.3 the scan works perfect. When I enter the adress of the printer manually the printer works OK So does somebody else have this problem? Is it een debian package bug or a kde3.1 beta2 bug? Greetings Rob Lensen -- ** Never let a computer see you hurry. ** __ /*-Rob Lensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]-*\ __ \ '/ Enschede, The Netherlands\' / \/http://www.bsdfreaks.nl \/
Re: Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE 3.0.4
Op Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:25:55 +0200 Tamas Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Those lucky Debian users;) can download and play with the recent Gideon(Kdevelop Alpha1) snapshot package... Link to download: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian#gideon Gideo won't start here because: gideon: error while loading shared libraries: libkjava.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory It has to be in kdelibs I think, but the kde3.1 beta2 package's I have has no Java compiled in I think. Is there another way to provide libkjava? Greetings Rob Lensen -- ** Never let a computer see you hurry. ** __ /*-Rob Lensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]-*\ __ \ '/ Enschede, The Netherlands\' / \/http://www.bsdfreaks.nl \/
Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:25:28 +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: [...] The other thing is what version of Debian users want to run KDE on. I myself would prefer woody, although testing and unstable are fine, too. FWIW, just to register an opinion, my interest is solely in non-beta packages (just don't have time to test beta stuff right now - I need a working system), and for stability's sake only on Woody. So currently I'm only interested in KDE 3.0x packages for Woody, with all that implies (GCC 2.95, etc.). [I currently use Woody with official KDE 2.2] My 2p: a Debian archive should be created within kde.org to hold unofficial Debian KDE packages - not a KDE archive within debian.org. Regarding the creation of an experimental Debian, I'm inclined to agree with Ben Burton's concern that people would add experimental to their sources.list and suddenly get all sorts of *other* experimental packages without realising it. Continuing to use people.d.o and other such places would also be fine, but makes it difficult for new users to find what they need. [Currently, I'm confused about where to get the KDE 3.0.4 debs from that I think I know I want - I believe I have the required information on this list somewhere, but have some collation work to do to figure it all out] A weekly posting to this list, of pointers to good locations for various KDE package archives would be an _excellent_ thing .. (Or even a daily posting - the speed with which development takes place at times !) Sorry, but I'm in no position to help - except maybe for working on documentation if that's needed (Ralf Nolden mentioned this). Tip o'the hat to all the packagers :) Nick Boyce Bristol, UK -- Remember - friends don't send friends HTML e-mail
