Re: Quanta Debs?

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Sheffield
Thanks!

On Thursday 21 November 2002 03:47 pm, Ben Burton wrote:
> > I haven't been able to find any debs for Quanta and I seem to have hit a
> > snag in the compiling. Can anyone tell me where to get some?
>
> http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3/ for KDE 3.0 under gcc2.95, or
> http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3-gcc3.2/ for KDE 3.1 under gcc3.2.
>
> Ben.




Re: Packaging questions (kde_moduledir, overrides, watch)

2002-11-21 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Friday 22 November 2002 00:41, Paul Cupis wrote:
> On Thursday 21 November 2002 23:27, Michael Schuerig wrote:

[Generating Packages.gz and Sources.gz locally.]
> Run the command on your machine, and upload the
> Packages.gz and Sources.fz files along with the packages (using the
> same layout as you do locally).

Yes, thanks, it works. So here are KDE 3 packages for KSms and KickPIM 
(preliminary!)

deb http://www.schuerig.de/michael/debian ./
deb-src http://www.schuerig.de/michael/debian ./

Alternatively, you can access the directory at

http://www.schuerig.de/cgi-bin/sitexplorer.cgi?/michael/debian/

(The trailing slash is necessary... don't ask.)

Michael

-- 
Michael Schuerig  If at first you don't succeed...
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   try, try again.
http://www.schuerig.de/michael/   --Jerome Morrow, "Gattaca"




Re: Packaging questions (kde_moduledir, overrides, watch)

2002-11-21 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 21 November 2002 23:27, Michael Schuerig wrote:

> - Finally, I don't want to keep this package to myself, but would like
> to make it available to others. Say, at
> http://www.schuerig.de/michael/debian. For my local packages
> (/pub/packages) I use the following commands (and get warnings about
> the empty overrides file...)
>
> cd /pub
> dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg packages packages/overrides | gzip \
>
>   > packages/Packages.gz
>
> dpkg-scansources packages | gzip > packages/Sources.gz
>
> Now, I can't run these commands at my webspace provider.

You don't need to. Run the command on your machine, and upload the Packages.gz 
and Sources.fz files along with the packages (using the same layout as you do 
locally).

Paul Cupis
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Packaging questions (kde_moduledir, overrides, watch)

2002-11-21 Thread Michael Schuerig

I'm currently trying to build a package for kickpim and I'm running into 
some problems.

- The shared lib for kickpim ought to go into $kde_moduledir, 
/usr/lib/kde3, but instead it ends up in /usr/lib. debian/debiandirs 
are included in debian/rules. I had a closer look at the various 
Makefiles involved and I figure, I can't do much about this without the 
help of the original author.

- lintian gives me the following warnings. Can I just put them into 
debian/kickpim.overrides? The first one is obvious, but I'm wondering 
if the second one violates any policy.

W: kickpim: link-to-undocumented-manpage usr/share/man/man1/kickpim.1.gz
W: kickpim: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libkickpim.so.1.0.0 
usr/lib/libkickpim.so

- I'd like to use the debian/watch and uscan to watch for upstream 
updates, but I don't see how I can make this work with the way links 
are handled on apps.kde.com and sourceforge. Any hints?

- Finally, I don't want to keep this package to myself, but would like 
to make it available to others. Say, at 
http://www.schuerig.de/michael/debian. For my local packages 
(/pub/packages) I use the following commands (and get warnings about 
the empty overrides file...)

cd /pub
dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg packages packages/overrides | gzip \
  > packages/Packages.gz
dpkg-scansources packages | gzip > packages/Sources.gz

Now, I can't run these commands at my webspace provider.

Thanks!

Michael

-- 
Michael Schuerig  If at first you don't succeed...
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   try, try again.
http://www.schuerig.de/michael/   --Jerome Morrow, "Gattaca"




RE: Fonts on KDE

2002-11-21 Thread Charlie Reiman


> -Original Message-
> From: Donald R. Spoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:43 PM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Fonts on KDE
>
>
> Charlie Reiman wrote:
> > I've got Debian sid (2.4.18 kernel) with kde 2.2.2 installed on
> my Omnibook
> > 500. I'm having a hard time getting fonts to behave. Is there a
> decent FAQ
> > covering font installation? I'd really love something with a
> troubleshooting
> > diagram.
> >
> > I have anti-aliasing working. My problem is KDE itself only seems to
> > recognize about 10 fonts in the look & Feel:Fonts panel
> (courier 10 pitch,
> > nimbus, a few others). KDE will render Helvitica but I can't
> select it in
> > the picker. KWord also seems to let me select from about 10
> different fonts.
> >
> > This is a KDE problem since gfontsel seems to recognize over 100 fonts,
> > including my true type fonts, but it has problems with some
> (not all) 2 byte
> > fonts. gfontview seems to render everything as long as I point it at the
> > right directory. Crufty old xfontsel seems to recongnize all my
> fonts and
> > renders them just fine.
> >
> > "xlsfonts | wc -l" gives 5462, so there are plenty of fonts
> installed as far
> > as X is concerned.
> >
> > How do I get KDE to at least recognize my TT fonts?
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> >
> > Charlie.
> >
>
> Charlie,
>
> It just so happens that I have recently did a "fresh" install of Debian
> Woody, then upgraded to "testing" and installed the msttcorefonts
> package AND ran into the same problem as you!  I had a "working" KDE
> system before the re-install, so I had to re-create my previous steps.
>
> As it turned out, all I had to do was modify the /etc/X11/XftConfig file
> and add the new Defoma path names to get access to the TrueType fonts
> from the status you described.  Basically, I had to make the changes
> recommended during the x-ttcidfont package config when it was installed!
>I also had to start (restart?) the xfs server to read in the new /
> modified file.
>
> Here is my /etc/X11/XftConfig file:
>
> # $XFree86: xc/lib/Xft/XftConfig.cpp,v 1.8 2001/11/21 23:41:12
> keithp Exp $
>
> dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> # dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
> dir "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
> dir "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
>
> #
> # alias 'fixed' for 'mono'
> #
> match any family == "fixed" edit family =+ "mono";
>
> #
> # Check users config file
> #
> includeif   "~/.xftconfig"
>
> #
> # Alias between XLFD families and font file family name, prefer local
> # fonts
> #
> match any family == "charter"   edit family += "bitstream
> charter";
> match any family == "bitstream charter" edit family =+ "charter";
>
> There is some other stuff that you can do with this file to clean up
> hinting and aliases, that I have not done here.  That is described in
> the /usr/share/doc/anti-aliasing-howto/XftConfig.examples file on your
> computer.  You might be interested in some of that too..
>
> HTH,
> -Don Spoon-

Thanks. That stopped the hurting. I'm still not sure why image fonts
(wingdings, etc) don't render correctly but at least I can stop using
bitstream for everything.




Re: Quanta Debs?

2002-11-21 Thread Ben Burton
> I haven't been able to find any debs for Quanta and I seem to have hit a snag 
> in the compiling. Can anyone tell me where to get some?

http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3/ for KDE 3.0 under gcc2.95, or
http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3-gcc3.2/ for KDE 3.1 under gcc3.2.

Ben.




Re: Fonts on KDE

2002-11-21 Thread Donald R. Spoon
Charlie Reiman wrote:
I've got Debian sid (2.4.18 kernel) with kde 2.2.2 installed on my Omnibook
500. I'm having a hard time getting fonts to behave. Is there a decent FAQ
covering font installation? I'd really love something with a troubleshooting
diagram.
I have anti-aliasing working. My problem is KDE itself only seems to
recognize about 10 fonts in the look & Feel:Fonts panel (courier 10 pitch,
nimbus, a few others). KDE will render Helvitica but I can't select it in
the picker. KWord also seems to let me select from about 10 different fonts.
This is a KDE problem since gfontsel seems to recognize over 100 fonts,
including my true type fonts, but it has problems with some (not all) 2 byte
fonts. gfontview seems to render everything as long as I point it at the
right directory. Crufty old xfontsel seems to recongnize all my fonts and
renders them just fine.
"xlsfonts | wc -l" gives 5462, so there are plenty of fonts installed as far
as X is concerned.
How do I get KDE to at least recognize my TT fonts?
Thanks for any help
Charlie.
Charlie,
It just so happens that I have recently did a "fresh" install of Debian 
Woody, then upgraded to "testing" and installed the msttcorefonts 
package AND ran into the same problem as you!  I had a "working" KDE 
system before the re-install, so I had to re-create my previous steps.

As it turned out, all I had to do was modify the /etc/X11/XftConfig file 
and add the new Defoma path names to get access to the TrueType fonts 
from the status you described.  Basically, I had to make the changes 
recommended during the x-ttcidfont package config when it was installed! 
  I also had to start (restart?) the xfs server to read in the new / 
modified file.

Here is my /etc/X11/XftConfig file:
# $XFree86: xc/lib/Xft/XftConfig.cpp,v 1.8 2001/11/21 23:41:12 keithp Exp $
dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
# dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
dir "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
dir "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
#
# alias 'fixed' for 'mono'
#
match any family == "fixed" edit family =+ "mono";
#
# Check users config file
#
includeif   "~/.xftconfig"
#
# Alias between XLFD families and font file family name, prefer local
# fonts
#
match any family == "charter"   edit family += "bitstream charter";
match any family == "bitstream charter" edit family =+ "charter";
There is some other stuff that you can do with this file to clean up 
hinting and aliases, that I have not done here.  That is described in 
the /usr/share/doc/anti-aliasing-howto/XftConfig.examples file on your 
computer.  You might be interested in some of that too..

HTH,
-Don Spoon-



Re: Possible bug?

2002-11-21 Thread Casper Gielen
Op donderdag 21 november 2002 16:00, schreef Corey Kovacs:
> I've experienced a similar problem. I've got the debs from karolina on a
> 733MHz machine with 512 MB
> of ram. When I log in to under KDE from KDM, I get a very regular, hard
> drive hit. About once every
> second I get a hit as if it's getting something from cache or something.
> I've got plenty of free RAM
> available so I shouldn't be swapping, and I am running kernel 2.4.19 with
> XFS added. This has never been
> a problem before and until now I've chalked it up to "It's a beta". Top
> reveals nothing out of the ordinary either.
>

AOL, it's the same with kernel 2.5.47 and all (relevant) disks mounted with 
"noatime" using reiserfs for filesystem. It's only ticking with KDE, Gnome2 & 
BlackBox are silent.

-- 
Casper Gielen
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux sucks twice as fast and 10 times more reliably,
and since you have the source, it's your fault. -Ca1v1n 





RE: Fonts on KDE

2002-11-21 Thread Charlie Reiman

> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Rudmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: Charlie Reiman
> Subject: Re: Fonts on KDE
>
>
> Charlie Reiman wrote:
>
> >I've got Debian sid (2.4.18 kernel) with kde 2.2.2 installed on
> my Omnibook
> >500. I'm having a hard time getting fonts to behave. Is there a
> decent FAQ
> >covering font installation? I'd really love something with a
> troubleshooting
> >diagram.
> >
>
> You know, I saw a pretty good looking article on Slashdot.org [actually
> elsewhere,
> but covered on slashdot] linked to about font deuglification in Debian
> about a month ago.
>
> Doing an advanced search on Google for "Debian font howto install
> site:slashdot.org",
> I see that the slashdot article was:
> http://slashdot.org/articles/00/02/25/107204.shtml
>
> The original article was not a working link, but going over to debian, I
> see it here:
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html
>
> Among other things, it told how to use the font hints and all to make
> them actually
> look decent on the screen.
>
> See if this helps.  If it works, leave a "problem solved message" that
> points to the website,
> or tells what you did.
>
> >
> >I have anti-aliasing working. My problem is KDE itself only seems to
> >recognize about 10 fonts in the look & Feel:Fonts panel (courier
> 10 pitch,
> >nimbus, a few others). KDE will render Helvitica but I can't select it in
> >the picker. KWord also seems to let me select from about 10
> different fonts.
> >
> >This is a KDE problem since gfontsel seems to recognize over 100 fonts,
> >including my true type fonts, but it has problems with some (not
> all) 2 byte
> >fonts. gfontview seems to render everything as long as I point it at the
> >right directory. Crufty old xfontsel seems to recongnize all my fonts and
> >renders them just fine.
> >
> >"xlsfonts | wc -l" gives 5462, so there are plenty of fonts
> installed as far
> >as X is concerned.
> >
> >How do I get KDE to at least recognize my TT fonts?
> >
> >Thanks for any help
> >
> >Charlie.


You're thinking of this document:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/

which covers how to get TT fonts installed and anti-aliased. I've got them
installed and anti-aliased just fine but KDE doesn't see them. Gnome tools
and gronky old X tools do. So I'm thinking I'm missing some KDE specific
index file but I'm not sure what it is. I suppose it's also possible I've
got some bad configuration that KDE chokes on but gnome and X just breeze
past.

I appreciate the help though. This document

http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/debian_tt.html

might be more relevent for me although it is old.




Re: Possible bug?

2002-11-21 Thread Bruce Sass
Hi,

Last time I looked: KDE wanted about 20M, kpackage ate up over 25M...
it would be pretty tough to use kpackage on a 32M box without tons of
swapping everytime focus moves to a new window (yes, it could take
awhile for the swapping to stop; once you are out of RAM, every
little process that wants to run will result in swapping--including
the commands that need to run to shutdown the app that is eating up
RAM).

I would avoid using kpackage 'til I could scare up some more RAM.


- Bruce

-- 
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Laura Rudmin wrote:

> Hi,
>
>I have a Debian Sid Pentium, and KDE 3.0.4 and KDM.  I have a 32
> MByte machine, with about 256 Mbytes swap.
>
>I have noticed what *might* be a bug, or might just be bad design
> somewhere... I don't know.
>
>Anyhow, in KDE, if I open two or three memory-intensive programs,
> such as Mozilla + kpackage, or Mozilla+Konquerer (several windows), I
> suddenly find my hard disk running all the time.  This continues, even
> if I close the applications.  It's like, once the swap gets activated,
> it never stops swapping, and never spins down.  At that point, I can
> count on 5-10% of normal speed from then on, for *everything*.
>
>That continues, even if I shutdown KDE and try to log on as a
> different user.  Eventually, it seems that I have to shutdown the
> machine, though  I haven't yet tried just shutting down X and KDM and
> just running from the command line.
>
>Anyhow, I'm not even sure what this is classified as (-bug, -design
> request, or what) , or where  (Debian? KDE?  X?).  Nor do I know if this
> is a known issue.  So I figured, why not first bounce this up to
> debian-kde, and see if anyone knows about this.  From there, we can
> figure out where to send it next.
>
>
>
>




Fonts on KDE

2002-11-21 Thread Charlie Reiman
I've got Debian sid (2.4.18 kernel) with kde 2.2.2 installed on my Omnibook
500. I'm having a hard time getting fonts to behave. Is there a decent FAQ
covering font installation? I'd really love something with a troubleshooting
diagram.

I have anti-aliasing working. My problem is KDE itself only seems to
recognize about 10 fonts in the look & Feel:Fonts panel (courier 10 pitch,
nimbus, a few others). KDE will render Helvitica but I can't select it in
the picker. KWord also seems to let me select from about 10 different fonts.

This is a KDE problem since gfontsel seems to recognize over 100 fonts,
including my true type fonts, but it has problems with some (not all) 2 byte
fonts. gfontview seems to render everything as long as I point it at the
right directory. Crufty old xfontsel seems to recongnize all my fonts and
renders them just fine.

"xlsfonts | wc -l" gives 5462, so there are plenty of fonts installed as far
as X is concerned.

How do I get KDE to at least recognize my TT fonts?

Thanks for any help

Charlie.







Re: Possible bug?

2002-11-21 Thread Corey Kovacs
I've experienced a similar problem. I've got the debs from karolina on a 733MHz
machine with 512 MB
of ram. When I log in to under KDE from KDM, I get a very regular, hard drive
hit. About once every
second I get a hit as if it's getting something from cache or something. I've 
got
plenty of free RAM
available so I shouldn't be swapping, and I am running kernel 2.4.19 with XFS
added. This has never been
a problem before and until now I've chalked it up to "It's a beta". Top reveals
nothing out of the ordinary either.


any ideas?

Also, previously I asked about AA fonts in karolinas 3.1 builds, anyone get them
to work?
So far I've
Turned on AA in kcontrol
Installed the fonts (which work)
Set up XftConfig to find them etc.

Still don't work, open a shell, export QT_XFT=1 then fire off krite (or any 
other
Kapp) nothing


Corey

Laura Rudmin wrote:

> Hi,
>
>I have a Debian Sid Pentium, and KDE 3.0.4 and KDM.  I have a 32
> MByte machine, with about 256 Mbytes swap.
>
>I have noticed what *might* be a bug, or might just be bad design
> somewhere... I don't know.
>
>Anyhow, in KDE, if I open two or three memory-intensive programs,
> such as Mozilla + kpackage, or Mozilla+Konquerer (several windows), I
> suddenly find my hard disk running all the time.  This continues, even
> if I close the applications.  It's like, once the swap gets activated,
> it never stops swapping, and never spins down.  At that point, I can
> count on 5-10% of normal speed from then on, for *everything*.
>
>That continues, even if I shutdown KDE and try to log on as a
> different user.  Eventually, it seems that I have to shutdown the
> machine, though  I haven't yet tried just shutting down X and KDM and
> just running from the command line.
>
>Anyhow, I'm not even sure what this is classified as (-bug, -design
> request, or what) , or where  (Debian? KDE?  X?).  Nor do I know if this
> is a known issue.  So I figured, why not first bounce this up to
> debian-kde, and see if anyone knows about this.  From there, we can
> figure out where to send it next.
>
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Re: threaded view of html projects

2002-11-21 Thread Nick Leverton
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:00:38PM +0100, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
> i just have installed the konq-plugins and found a really good feature.
> konqueror is able to show html code in a threaded way to me. this option
> is calles DOM-Baum in german.
> i wondered if this feature could be used for example in kate because it
> would be very usefull at the time of writing html code.
> if someone has found an editor providing this feature i would be pleased
> to hear about.
> thnx w mader

Quanta shows a DOM tree (same term in English) for the current document.

Nick




Re: The red light under the mic level on KMix

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:55:36AM +, David Goodenough wrote:
> What does the red light under the microphone level on KMix mean?
> 
> I tried to run krecord but nothing seemed to be happening, so I 
> started kmix and noticed that this light was on.  So I tried the
> help, but all I got was help about help, and Ctrl-F1 did not seem
> to work either.  The hoverhelp says "Recording", but nothing was 
> going to krecord, and the light is still on when krecord and
> all other multimedia apps are not running, is this the CIA perhaps?

As far as I can tell, OSS always has one channel setup for recording.
By default, this seems to be the mix channel (which is also muted).
Assuming you don't have a mic plugged in, you should be fine.  You might
want to run netstat once in a while though, to see if your machine is
connecting to echelon.nsa.gov :)

-rob


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Re: threaded view of html projects

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:00:38PM +0100, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
> hello to everyone,
> 
> i just have installed the konq-plugins and found a really good feature.
> konqueror is able to show html code in a threaded way to me. this option
> is calles DOM-Baum in german.
> i wondered if this feature could be used for example in kate because it
> would be very usefull at the time of writing html code.
> if someone has found an editor providing this feature i would be pleased
> to hear about.

From the description, it shows the DOM tree of an HTML file.  This
requires the program building it to be able to parse HTML, which Kate
will not be able to do out of the box (tho it could probably hook onto
Konq's parser).  I know that Mozilla includes a DOM tree viewer, and I'm
fairly sure that speedbar with emacs21 can do this too so give them a
try.

-rob


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Re: Quanta Debs?

2002-11-21 Thread Albert Teixidó
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My Quanta 3.0 debs are from http://www.opensides.be/debian/woody/kde3/

Take a look at http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/ for more info.

Albert

El Dijous 21 Novembre 2002 10:16, Matt Sheffield va escriure:
> I haven't been able to find any debs for Quanta and I seem to have hit a
> snag in the compiling. Can anyone tell me where to get some?

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Re: Possible bug?

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Sheffield
You need more RAM than that to effectively run KDE. Unfortunately, the 
majority of developers have decided to focus on features before speed. 
Perhaps if you ran a lighter-weight window manager such as xfce or 
Windowmaker.

_mws_

On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:43 am, Laura Rudmin wrote:
> Hi,
>
>I have a Debian Sid Pentium, and KDE 3.0.4 and KDM.  I have a 32
> MByte machine, with about 256 Mbytes swap.
>
>I have noticed what *might* be a bug, or might just be bad design
> somewhere... I don't know.
>
>Anyhow, in KDE, if I open two or three memory-intensive programs,
> such as Mozilla + kpackage, or Mozilla+Konquerer (several windows), I
> suddenly find my hard disk running all the time.  This continues, even
> if I close the applications.  It's like, once the swap gets activated,
> it never stops swapping, and never spins down.  At that point, I can
> count on 5-10% of normal speed from then on, for *everything*.
>
>That continues, even if I shutdown KDE and try to log on as a
> different user.  Eventually, it seems that I have to shutdown the
> machine, though  I haven't yet tried just shutting down X and KDM and
> just running from the command line.
>
>Anyhow, I'm not even sure what this is classified as (-bug, -design
> request, or what) , or where  (Debian? KDE?  X?).  Nor do I know if this
> is a known issue.  So I figured, why not first bounce this up to
> debian-kde, and see if anyone knows about this.  From there, we can
> figure out where to send it next.




Re: Possible bug? / Maybe not

2002-11-21 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
You can still kill -9 processes that suck. Beware though, that this is the
ananlogous of pulling the plug - your processes might die misearbly, and
not be able to clean up, save their files etc.

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Laura Rudmin wrote:

> Mem:  62340k total,  59420k used, 2920k free, 1364 buffers

might be that your memory is a bit sparse. After all KDE, Mozilla and
kpackage (or more like the debian packet management) are very memory
hungry.
*t

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Re: Script question

2002-11-21 Thread Brian Bates
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:50, Setyo Nugroho wrote:
> Every morning,as I enter my room, I would like to start an array of
> applications, with one single click. A good_morning script I wrote
> contains flwg lines: :
>
> konsole&
> opera&
> realplay&
> designer&
> konqueror&

kstart --desktop 2 konsole
kstart --desktop 3 opera
etc, I think...
check kstart --help to find out for sure.

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Quanta Debs?

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Sheffield
I haven't been able to find any debs for Quanta and I seem to have hit a snag 
in the compiling. Can anyone tell me where to get some?




Re: Possible bug? / Maybe not

2002-11-21 Thread Laura Rudmin
Perhaps it isn't a bug after all.  When I was doing this, I took the 
"top" data
before running it, recorded my moves, and then took the "top" data after
running "kpackage"'s initialization, Mozilla, help, and shell all at once.  
They looked approximately similar.  However, this time, before I ran "top",
I ran "ps -A" to see the processes.  At first, even long after I had 
quit Mozilla
and kpackage, I had 6 mozilla processes running and 1 kpackage process
running (as well as its bash process).  After doing ps -A a few more 
times, I lost
the 6 mozilla processes.  After running a few *more* times (long pauses 
between),
I lost the kpackage process, and it stopped spinning the hard disk.  

So it could just be a super-long shutdown process for some of these 
apps.  Even
so, when I logged out, it never seemed to stop running last time, so I 
wonder if
logging out locks the process in place, in run mode or something.  

Anyhow, if this problem shows up again, I'll be sure to ps -A to see 
what is running,
and if it doesn't stop, then I'll run top.  Then I'll get back to you ( 
to the debian-kde
list server, really, in case you are not at a point where you can spend 
the time. )

 - Thanks.
tomas pospisek wrote:
What does "top" say?
*t
Okay, during *normal* usage (say, mozilla only) I get
Tasks:  50 total,  1 running, 49 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpus:  0.7% usaer, 2.3% system, 0.0% nice, 97.1% idle
Mem:  62340k total,  59420k used, 2920k free, 1364 buffers
Swap:  248996k total   51492k used   197504k free   25192k cached
PID USER  PR NI  VIRT  RES   SHR  S  %CPU   %MEM   TIME  Command
1175  laura1   18  0   948  948  760  R  2.3  1.5  0:00.36  top
843  laura1  7  0  568  408  120  S  0.7  0.7  0:10:72  famd
1  root  0  0  88  56  36  S  0.0  0.1  0:08.95 init
2 root   0  0  0  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.02 kflushd
3 root   0  0  0  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.28 kupdate
4 root   1  0  0  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:05.21 kswapd
5 root   0  0  0  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 keventd
6 root   0  0  0  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 scsi_eh_0
98 root   0  0  0  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 khubd
160 daemon   0  0  72  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 portmap
259  root  0  0  144 76  40  S  0.0  0.1  0:00.11 syslogd
307  root  0  0  496 0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.16 klogd
444 root  0  0  724 500  32  S  0.0  0.8  0:00.09 cupsd
462  root  0  0  76  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.01 inetd
479 root 0  0  4648  1848  732  S  0.0   3.0  0:01.93  xfs
484  nobody  0  0  15412  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.23  xfs-xtt
504 daemon  0  0  80  0  0  S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 atd




  [...also PID 2:kflushd;   PID 3:kupdate;   PID 4:PR 1: kswapd;  PID 
5:PR 0 keventd;
 PID 6:   ]



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Script question

2002-11-21 Thread Setyo Nugroho
Hi all, 

Every morning,as I enter my room, I would like to start an array of
applications, with one single click. A good_morning script I wrote
contains flwg lines: :

konsole& 
opera& 
realplay& 
designer& 
konqueror&

This good_morning script works well. 
I wish to add some features on it. My questions are:
1. How is it to have applications activated in a particular desktop. For 
example,
konsole in desktop1, opera in desktop2 and so on? 
2. Another thing, how is it to activate for example jazzradio during this start?
Its pls file is available.

Regards, 
Setyo Nugroho




Re: Possible bug?

2002-11-21 Thread tomas pospisek
What does "top" say?
*t

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Possible bug?

2002-11-21 Thread Laura Rudmin
Hi,
  I have a Debian Sid Pentium, and KDE 3.0.4 and KDM.  I have a 32 
MByte machine, with about 256 Mbytes swap.  

  I have noticed what *might* be a bug, or might just be bad design 
somewhere... I don't know.

  Anyhow, in KDE, if I open two or three memory-intensive programs, 
such as Mozilla + kpackage, or Mozilla+Konquerer (several windows), I 
suddenly find my hard disk running all the time.  This continues, even 
if I close the applications.  It's like, once the swap gets activated, 
it never stops swapping, and never spins down.  At that point, I can 
count on 5-10% of normal speed from then on, for *everything*.

  That continues, even if I shutdown KDE and try to log on as a 
different user.  Eventually, it seems that I have to shutdown the 
machine, though  I haven't yet tried just shutting down X and KDM and 
just running from the command line.

  Anyhow, I'm not even sure what this is classified as (-bug, -design 
request, or what) , or where  (Debian? KDE?  X?).  Nor do I know if this 
is a known issue.  So I figured, why not first bounce this up to 
debian-kde, and see if anyone knows about this.  From there, we can 
figure out where to send it next.