Re: latest kde 3.1.2

[Chris Cheney]

On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 11:07:11AM -0600, David Bishop wrote:
> Is there any way to install the latest kde development packages alongside 
> XFree86 4.3?  It seems to be looking for a -pic package that doesn't exist 
> for me.

Unless it is possible to install xlibs-pic while xfree 4.3 is installed
it probably won't work. KDE has to be compiled against xlibs-pic until
xfree 4.3 goes into Debian otherwise it fails to build on several archs.
With xfree 4.3 finally all libraries are compiled with -fPIC so it will
no longer be needed for it.

Chris

Not really for the Dedian-KDE list but like to see a xine plugin for konqueror

[Michael Peddemors]

Just upgraded to KDE 3.1.2, and everything seems okay, but decided I should 
try out viewing WMV's in Konqueror.. 

Mplayer and Mplayer plugins didn't do quite what I wanted, and since I see 
indications that xine is the favoured direction, did an..

apt-get install libdirectfb-0.9-15 libflash0 xine-ui

And then realized that the xine-mozilla-plugin is not available as a package 
yet, so just saved a WMV to file, and tried to run it from command line, and 
caboom.

Strace reveals..
metronom: waiting for audio discontinuity #3
metronom: audio discontinuity #3, type is 2, disc_off 268740
metronom: audio vpts adjusted with prebuffer to 944151
metronom: waiting for in_discontinuity update #3
metronom: video vpts adjusted to 944151
)= 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\2h\33\0\0\0\0\v\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32
kill(31804, SIGRTMIN)   = 0
kill(31804, SIGRTMINyuv2rgb: using 2*zoom optimized scale_line
)   = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [ALRM RTMIN], 8) = 0
rt_sigsuspend([ALRM] 
--- SIGRTMIN (Real-time signal 0) ---
<... rt_sigsuspend resumed> )   = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM RTMIN])
ioctl(3, 0x541b, [0])   = 0
read(3, 0xbfffeed8, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily 
unavailable)
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted)
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

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howto upgrade to kde 3.1.x

[Gezim H]

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On Tuesday 20 May 2003 20:12, Gezim H wrote:
> Hi,
> apt-get remove --purge kdelibs3*
> didn't work to remove the kde 2.2.2, so I would like to completely rid my
> system o kde and reinstall it with apt-get update && apt-get 
dist-upgrade,
> so how do I go about at doing that?

Just look for everything that says kde and 2.2.2 :-) Normally that should
remove at least the binaries, there may be some leftovers from the
arch-independent packages.
Try apt-get remove --purge kde*  arts*
Ralf
> Thank you,
>
> Zim
>
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> On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2003 04:06, Gezim H wrote:
>  > Hi, I upgraded to kde 3.1.1a by adding:
>  > deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable 
main
>  > and then I did "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
>  > but when it installed it didn't look very satisfying, things like
>
> Koffice,
>
>  > games ,etc. were missing, when I tryed downloading kdevelop manually, 
by
>  > "apt-get install kdevelop"  it says:
>  > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  >   kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be
>  > installed
>  > Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed
>  > E: Sorry, broken packages
>  >
>  > then I try doing "apt-get install kdelibs3" which eareses

Re: New KDE's QT-3.1.2 && Sarge's gcc 3.2.3-0pre9 binary incompat?

[Dave Lister]

On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 09:31:26PM +0200, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> On 20.Mai 2003 - 20:37:38, Dave Lister wrote:
> > Hi there, I've just subscribed to this list - feel free to spank me if
> > I'm too BFUish ;)
> > 
> > I've installed new KDE 3.1.2 core libraries (from kde.org) on my SARGE.
> > It was a bit tricky as KDE's Arts is "only" 1.1.2-0 and Sarge's is
> > 1.1.2-1. I've solved this manully and installed WOODY's libvorbis0 to
> > allow KDE's Arts slip in without further dependency problems. So far so
> > good. Now, I have new KDE's Arts, core and QT 3.1.2 libraries and
> > devel headers.
> > 
> > I'm using new gcc 3.2.3-0pre9, _not_ Woody's 2.9x, which was used to
> > compile all KDE's binary packages. Everyting seems to work all right,
> > new KDE apps and even my compiled-before-upgrade /usr/local/bin QT apps.
> > 
> > The problem is that any qt-based app I try to _compile_ now fails to get
> > linked, because of "undefined references", apparently the ones to
> > exports in libqt-mt.
> > 
> > My guess is that gcc 3.2 is somehow "binary incompatible" with older
> > 2.9x and thus, linker fails to resolve all symbols in the 2.9x-compiled
> > libqt-mt.so.3.1.2. 
> > 
> > First question: 
> >   Is it possible? If not, what could be the reason?
> 
> Is what possible? To compile your QT apps against a library built with
> 2.9x? No, the so called ABI of 2.95, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 are all incompatible
> to each other. The KDE and also QT probably used 2.95 to compile so this
> works.

I meant if it's possible that gcc 2.95 and 3.2 would be "somehow binary
incompatible" - they are, because of ABI, as you said. That's what I
wanted to know. Thanx.7
 
> > Second question: Is there any other way than downgrading gcc back to
> > Woody's 2.9x or compiling the whole QT from sources (as I did in the
> > days of unstable 3.1)?
> 
> You don't have to downgrade, export CC=gcc-2.95 and CXX=gcc-2.95, that
> should do. Oh and don't forget to do an apt-get install gcc-2.95, it
> is also available in sarge :) Only the gcc package changes according
> to the transition to gcc-3.2

Ok, I'll do it this way. You were most helpful; thank you, Andreas.

regards,
Dave

Re: New KDE's QT-3.1.2 && Sarge's gcc 3.2.3-0pre9 binary incompat?

[Dave Lister]

On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 08:43:52PM +0100, David Pye wrote:
> You'll be alright with C stuff - IIRC It's C++ stuff that breaks.
> 
> It doesn't matter with the kernel etc, just make sure you compile all C++ 
> stuff with gcc 2.95 series... :) You can mix and match compilers in some 
> cases. So there's probably no point recompiling your kernel with 2.95 IMHO.
> 
Actually it is, I'm using shfs and it requires compiling the kernel
module with the same version of gcc as compiled the kernel itself.
Plus compiling nvidia driver. But that's ok with me as I recompile
my kernels quite frequently. Thx for the info about C vs. C++!!

Sincerely,
Dave

Re: New KDE's QT-3.1.2 && Sarge's gcc 3.2.3-0pre9 binary incompat?

[Andreas Pakulat]

On 20.Mai 2003 - 20:37:38, Dave Lister wrote:
> Hi there, I've just subscribed to this list - feel free to spank me if
> I'm too BFUish ;)
> 
> I've installed new KDE 3.1.2 core libraries (from kde.org) on my SARGE.
> It was a bit tricky as KDE's Arts is "only" 1.1.2-0 and Sarge's is
> 1.1.2-1. I've solved this manully and installed WOODY's libvorbis0 to
> allow KDE's Arts slip in without further dependency problems. So far so
> good. Now, I have new KDE's Arts, core and QT 3.1.2 libraries and
> devel headers.
> 
> I'm using new gcc 3.2.3-0pre9, _not_ Woody's 2.9x, which was used to
> compile all KDE's binary packages. Everyting seems to work all right,
> new KDE apps and even my compiled-before-upgrade /usr/local/bin QT apps.
> 
> The problem is that any qt-based app I try to _compile_ now fails to get
> linked, because of "undefined references", apparently the ones to
> exports in libqt-mt.
> 
> My guess is that gcc 3.2 is somehow "binary incompatible" with older
> 2.9x and thus, linker fails to resolve all symbols in the 2.9x-compiled
> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2. 
> 
> First question: 
>   Is it possible? If not, what could be the reason?

Is what possible? To compile your QT apps against a library built with
2.9x? No, the so called ABI of 2.95, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 are all incompatible
to each other. The KDE and also QT probably used 2.95 to compile so this
works.

> Second question: 
>   Is there any other way than downgrading gcc back to Woody's 2.9x or
>   compiling the whole QT from sources (as I did in the days of unstable
>   3.1)?

You don't have to downgrade, export CC=gcc-2.95 and CXX=gcc-2.95, that
should do. Oh and don't forget to do an apt-get install gcc-2.95, it is
also available in sarge :) Only the gcc package changes according to the
transition to gcc-3.2

Andreas

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Re: New KDE's QT-3.1.2 && Sarge's gcc 3.2.3-0pre9 binary incompat?

[David Pye]

On Tuesday 20 May 2003 19:37, Dave Lister wrote:

> The problem is that any qt-based app I try to _compile_ now fails to get
> linked, because of "undefined references", apparently the ones to
> exports in libqt-mt.
>
> My guess is that gcc 3.2 is somehow "binary incompatible" with older
> 2.9x and thus, linker fails to resolve all symbols in the 2.9x-compiled
> libqt-mt.so.3.1.2.

*EXACTLY*!  This is the big gotcha, and caused a lot of pain during the 
compiler transition in sid. One day, this will propagate down to Sarge, and 
we'll relive it again ;)

> First question:
>   Is it possible? If not, what could be the reason?
>
> Second question:
>   Is there any other way than downgrading gcc back to Woody's 2.9x or
>   compiling the whole QT from sources (as I did in the days of unstable
>   3.1)?

Well, you *could* use gcc-2.95 to compile things IF you want to do it 
successfully... I'm on a sarge system here, and doing likewise! Otherwise, 
you'll have to use KDE3 from SID (Which unless you're on SID isn't a good 
idea!)


Regards, 

David

New KDE's QT-3.1.2 && Sarge's gcc 3.2.3-0pre9 binary incompat?

[Dave Lister]

Hi there, I've just subscribed to this list - feel free to spank me if
I'm too BFUish ;)

I've installed new KDE 3.1.2 core libraries (from kde.org) on my SARGE.
It was a bit tricky as KDE's Arts is "only" 1.1.2-0 and Sarge's is
1.1.2-1. I've solved this manully and installed WOODY's libvorbis0 to
allow KDE's Arts slip in without further dependency problems. So far so
good. Now, I have new KDE's Arts, core and QT 3.1.2 libraries and
devel headers.

I'm using new gcc 3.2.3-0pre9, _not_ Woody's 2.9x, which was used to
compile all KDE's binary packages. Everyting seems to work all right,
new KDE apps and even my compiled-before-upgrade /usr/local/bin QT apps.

The problem is that any qt-based app I try to _compile_ now fails to get
linked, because of "undefined references", apparently the ones to
exports in libqt-mt.

My guess is that gcc 3.2 is somehow "binary incompatible" with older
2.9x and thus, linker fails to resolve all symbols in the 2.9x-compiled
libqt-mt.so.3.1.2. 

First question: 
  Is it possible? If not, what could be the reason?
  
Second question: 
  Is there any other way than downgrading gcc back to Woody's 2.9x or
  compiling the whole QT from sources (as I did in the days of unstable
  3.1)?

Thank you for ANY comments or hints.
Dave Lister

Re: latest kde 3.1.2

[James Greenhalgh]

On Tue, 2003-05-20 at 13:07, David Bishop wrote:
> Is there any way to install the latest kde development packages alongside 
> XFree86 4.3?  It seems to be looking for a -pic package that doesn't exist 
> for me.

David,

You may be interested in using my kde cvs packages that are built
against XFree86 4.3 debs and do not require the -pic.  Info at
 http://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/http.pl?p=kdecvs;frame=1

Alternatively if you dont want to go that crazy :D you may want to
apt-get install equivs and take a look at its documentation.  equivs is
a dummy package which can be used to create Debian packages, which only
contain dependency information.

Cheers,
James

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> D.A.Bishop

latest kde 3.1.2

[David Bishop]

Is there any way to install the latest kde development packages alongside 
XFree86 4.3?  It seems to be looking for a -pic package that doesn't exist 
for me.

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D.A.Bishop

Re: KDE 3.1.2???

[Michael Peddemors]

On Monday 19 May 2003 23:53, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> On Dienstag, 20. Mai 2003 06:58, L. A. Linden Levy wrote:
> > What is the new .deb source for kde3.1 I noticed that Ralf's went
> > down.
>
> See
>
> http://www.kde.org/info/3.1.2.php
>
> KDE 3.1.2 is available for i386, powerpc and alpha architectures from
> download.kde.org.

Only problem is the source the give you doesn't work on many of the mirrors 
yet..  Use the main download.kde.org site for this.

Failed to fetch 
http://download.us.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages
  
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Re: Downloading KDE3.1.2

[Thomas]

Try this link:
http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/pool/main/k/
Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello there!
Can anybody send me the link where to download KDE 3.1.2? I've tried with the 
download page, but the only files I find are Packages, Packages.bz2 and 
Packages.gz on 
http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/. I 
need to download KDE, because the PC I'm doing all my work with is not 
connected to the internet.
thanx,
Bienchen

 

Re: Downloading KDE3.1.2

[Frank Mehnert]

On Tuesday 20 May 2003 14:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anybody send me the link where to download KDE 3.1.2? I've tried with
> the download page, but the only files I find are Packages, Packages.bz2 and
> Packages.gz on
> http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/.
> I need to download KDE, because the PC I'm doing all my work with is not
> connected to the internet.

I use debmirror. Unfortunately, this script is not included in Woody, so
I append this script here (sorry list, it's only 18k). Use it as follows:

1. Create a local directoy where the kde312-files should go into:

  mkdir /home/arch/kde312

2. Copy kde312 files to that directory:

 ./debmirror /home/arch/kde312\
--nosource\
--dist=woody\
--host=mirrors.midco.net\
--root=/pub/kde/stable/3.1.2/Debian/\
--section=main

3. Append

  deb file:/home/arch/kde312 woody main

to /etc/apt/sources.list and update using apt-get and/or dselect.
That's all.

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Downloading KDE3.1.2

[stefanbienert]

Hello there!

Can anybody send me the link where to download KDE 3.1.2? I've tried with the 
download page, but the only files I find are Packages, Packages.bz2 and 
Packages.gz on 
http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/. I 
need to download KDE, because the PC I'm doing all my work with is not 
connected to the internet.

thanx,

Bienchen

Re: kde 3.1.1 login manager

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 08:10:16AM +0200, Mauro Darida wrote:
> I was wondering how to remove the turn off computer option during
> login of a normal user but allowing a normal user to turn off computer
> on logout.
> 
currently impossible.
do you want to do this to ensure that only users with an account can
shut down the box?

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hello,
I was wondering how to remove the turn off computer option during login of a 
normal user but allowing a normal user to turn off computer on logout. If  in 
control center login manager menu I say that only root can do a turn off then 
kde removes turn off for users during BOTH login and logout. Does anybody 
have a solution ?
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Re: KDE 3.1.2???

[Ralf Nolden]

On Dienstag, 20. Mai 2003 06:58, L. A. Linden Levy wrote:
> What is the new .deb source for kde3.1 I noticed that Ralf's went
> down.

See

http://www.kde.org/info/3.1.2.php

KDE 3.1.2 is available for i386, powerpc and alpha architectures from 
download.kde.org.

Ralf

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>
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> blessing to us."
>
> --Walt Whitman
>
> On Mon, 19 May 2003, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 05:28:39PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
> > > > I will upload the rest of KDE 3.1.2 in the next few days
> > >
> > > My parts of KDE may take one or two weeks to upload.  There's some
> > > non-trivial changes I want to make to the packaging but I'm submitting
> > > my PhD thesis on May 30 and so it's entirely probable that things could
> > > get a little hectic.
> > >
> > > Ben.
> >
> > Hopefully that will give me time to test out my ideas on cdbs. I am
> > hopeful it will be able to solve most of the packaging problems relating
> > to debian KDE and 3rd party apps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Problems with Session Management with KDE 3.1.1a on Woody

[Christoph Maurer]

Hello!

I've got some problems with session management on my to computers
with Debian Woody. I recently upgraded from KDE 3.0.x to 3.1.1a with
the debs from download.kde.org. 

Now, session management does not work correctly any longer.
Independent from the settings in the Control Panel, KDE opens a new
session each time I log in. But I want my old session to be started
again, or at least a saved default session. 

.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc is modified and contains entries for
all running programs after I log out bit when I log in again none of
this programs is restarted. 

Deleting/moving ~/.kde did not solve the problem. 

Any ideas for a solution?

Thanks and best regards

Christoph

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Re: kde-common/admin

[James Michael Greenhalgh]

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On May 17, 2003 08:19 am, Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> Committing new debianrules from Karolina; this one adds 'echoshelldirs',
> for use in Bourne-compliant shells, as well as 'echomacros', which echoes
> out common Makefile macros, to cut down on the duplication of these macros
> through debian/rules files.
>
> Committed with one minor change - /usr/share/qt -> /usr/share/qt3.
>
>
>   M +251 -119  debianrules   1.110

Daniel,

It seems as though the logic for nofinal has been lost, is it an oversight or 
something I missed that now exists somewhere else?

diff ../kdelibs.old/admin/debianrules ../kdelibs/admin/debianrules
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   $enable_final="--enable-final";

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Re: KDE 3.1.2???

[L. A. Linden Levy]

What is the new .deb source for kde3.1 I noticed that Ralf's went
down.

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University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
1110 W. Green St., Urbana, IL 61801-3080
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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game - the American game. It [baseball] will
take our people out-of-doors, fill them with
oxygen, give them a larger physical stoicism.
Tend to relieve us from being a nervous,
dyspeptic set. Repair these losses, and be a
blessing to us."

--Walt Whitman






On Mon, 19 May 2003, Chris Cheney wrote:

> On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 05:28:39PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
> >
> > > I will upload the rest of KDE 3.1.2 in the next few days
> >
> > My parts of KDE may take one or two weeks to upload.  There's some
> > non-trivial changes I want to make to the packaging but I'm submitting
> > my PhD thesis on May 30 and so it's entirely probable that things could
> > get a little hectic.
> >
> > Ben.
>
> Hopefully that will give me time to test out my ideas on cdbs. I am
> hopeful it will be able to solve most of the packaging problems relating
> to debian KDE and 3rd party apps.
>
> Chris
>
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