Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Monday 04 April 2005 06:41 pm, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote: > You are whining and that's it. No help here, no contribution. But wait, > you are burning out DD's in the process too. Tough shit. Maybe you'll push > them to resign. It allready happened once and it wasn't the whiners > who picked up the work. Maybe others will pick up the work or maybe not. > Or maybe Ubuntu or Libranet will spend their ressources on making sure > that Debian's packages move forward as fast as _you_ want/whine. Or maybe > not. Or maybe you'll then just move on to RedHat or SuSE - but hey, why > don't **you** move on right **now** instead of wasting the energy of the > developers and instead of contributing something constructive? +1 Randy Kramer Thanks to the Debian developers for all their good work, past, present, and future! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
El Lunes, 4 de Abril de 2005 23:09, David Pastern escribió: > And x.org has been out for a year now. If it had been introduced a year But Sarge should have been released a year ago, more or less. Changing from XFree86 to XOrg is absolutely not a trivial change. Just try to compile and make work XOrg on one of the not so common architechtures. > ago, it'd have all (or near all) of the dependency problems and build > problems most probably sorted out by now. If Ubuntu can do it, why > can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself are > silently asking. Debian is about the only distro to release with the I was wondering this question myself, but don't tell us that if you don't like the answer, is a wrong answer. The complexity of Debian, in terms of quality and size, is many times forgotten. > old xfree86 X windowing system. People are expecting xorg and many > won't be impressed and will look to other distros. Debian seems to be > more and more a distro for developers, than the users, and this isn't > good. http://www.debian.org/social_contract See number 4. How to serve the users, is (yes, again) something complex, and there are lots of opinions about it. If you have got good ideas about a release cycle well suited for desktop users, and for servers sysadmins, please, speak. Some release proposals are in the debian wiki. > > the real problem is not that sarge won't ship kde 3.4 or x.org, but that > > sarge isn't out *yet*. > > I will say no more, because it will offend people, and i've already been > told to shut my mouth because it doesn't conform to what the Debian > developers want to hear. Tough shit. If someone told you to shut up, is because Debian developers can be offended when you say things without considering *all* the facts, not just the ones you are interested in. > Proud Libranet GNU/Linux user > Libranet The TOP Libranet distribution > http://www.libranet.com/ > Download your free trial of Libranet 2.8.1 today! If you are so proud of libranet, why do you care about Debian? Or the problem is that Libranet is Debian based, and not the opposite? Disclaimer: I am NOT a Debian developer, so I'm not personally offended by your words. However, they can be offensive to people who work very tough in Debian, and just as volunteers. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://darkshines.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, David Pastern wrote: [...] If Ubuntu can do it, why can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself are silently asking. Debian is about the only distro to release with the old xfree86 X windowing system. People are expecting xorg and many won't be impressed and will look to other distros. [...] I find some of the posts from others on these lists (including developers) downright offensive and arrogant. It's the same old "fuck you, piss off we don't care" attitude and it's not going to win Debian any friends. If developers cease to listen to their users, they will find that their users move on to greener pastures. I did so quite some time ago, both Ubuntu, Kanotix and Libranet kick Debian's ass all over the place, why use Debian? This is what many are contemplating. Sorry to sound rude, but i'm finding it's necessary to become blunt with thick or uncaring developers. You are whining and that's it. No help here, no contribution. But wait, you are burning out DD's in the process too. Tough shit. Maybe you'll push them to resign. It allready happened once and it wasn't the whiners who picked up the work. Maybe others will pick up the work or maybe not. Or maybe Ubuntu or Libranet will spend their ressources on making sure that Debian's packages move forward as fast as _you_ want/whine. Or maybe not. Or maybe you'll then just move on to RedHat or SuSE - but hey, why don't **you** move on right **now** instead of wasting the energy of the developers and instead of contributing something constructive? *t -- --- Tomas Pospisek http://sourcepole.com - Linux & Open Source Solutions --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to get an old version of kpat working with kde in Sarge?
Hi! Me and my wife miss the "Kings" patience that was included in the kpat package until recently. That particular patience was disabeld because the implementation of it had a bug and no one seemed to care enough about the "kings" patience to fix the bug. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84819 We would like to have the kings patience even if buggy. My first try to get it was to simply install an older version of kpat with # dpkg -i kpat[version_number_that_I_no_longer_remember_3.2_something].deb That worked until I installed a new version of kde. What are my options to get kpat with "kings"? -compile an older version of kpat (3.2) to work with kde 3.3? -get the source for kpat 3.3, somehow enable "kings" and recompile? Are there other options? I have no knowledge in c++, but I suppose I could hand-reverse the patch to kpat that disabled "kings". If kpat 3.2 could be make to work with kde 3.3 without changing the source, I would prefer that, but is it possible? Thanks in advance for any recommendations, hints, tips or other helpful advice. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.1 Linux samir 2.6.9-1-386 #1 Thu Nov 25 02:52:40 EST 2004 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
Le Lun 4 Avril 2005 23:15, David Pastern a écrit : > Sorry to sound rude, but i'm finding it's necessary to become blunt > with thick or uncaring developers. Then I'm finding it's necessary for you to learn some respect or at least politeness wrt people that does the hard work of coping with pple like you. If Ubuntu makes you happy, then use Ubuntu, but don't spit on the people that make the ubuntu packages possible (*). (*) yeah those people are the arrogant debian developper bastards (**) (**) yeah, do you believe that Ubuntu is built with wind ? no they rework/enhance debian packages. And no I'm not unhappy with Ubuntu's work. I just begin to be really annoyed by people waving « Ubuntu here » or « Ubuntu there » to show the poor stupid DD's that Debian *could* work if those stupid DD worked like the Ubuntu developpers do. But PLEASE WAKE UP ... Ubuntu is possible thanks to the guys you treat like shit. and yeah I'm pissed and I'm going to regret that mail ... but I really feel hurt here. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpbLQ7AqrSKQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
> And x.org has been out for a year now. If it had been introduced a > year ago, it'd have all (or near all) of the dependency problems and > build problems most probably sorted out by now. If Ubuntu can do it, > why can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself > are silently asking. Debian is about the only distro to release with > the old xfree86 X windowing system. People are expecting xorg and > many won't be impressed and will look to other distros. Debian seems > to be more and more a distro for developers, than the users, and this > isn't good. well, the thing is, sarge should have been out 1 year ago (maybe even before). and adding x.org now would like yet-another-delay and ubuntu doesn't have the same exigences for releases. many RC bugs of debian aren't for ubuntu. and ubuntu does not have a dozen arch to build on. > I will say no more, because it will offend people, and i've already > been told to shut my mouth because it doesn't conform to what the > Debian developers want to hear. Tough shit. <...> -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpxC4b8aDuNg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
* David Pastern [Tue, 05 Apr 2005 07:15:01 +1000]: > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 03:57 +1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > So, for things not intended for sarge, unstable is not ok, and > > experimental or some external repository must be used. > Yes, but if that's the case, why no kde 3.4, gnome 2.10 or xorg in > experimental then? You have KDE 3.4 available in an external repository. GNOME 2.10 is being uploaded to experimental. As for xorg, ask the X11 maintainers. > I find some of the posts from others on these lists (including > developers) downright offensive and arrogant. It's the same old "fuck > you, piss off we don't care" attitude and it's not going to win Debian > any friends. If developers cease to listen to their users, they will > find that their users move on to greener pastures. I did so quite some > time ago, both Ubuntu, Kanotix and Libranet kick Debian's ass all over > the place, why use Debian? This is what many are contemplating. Nobody forces you to use Debian. Just be glad that it exists, and that all these distributions can base their work on it to offer you a shiny product. There are differences between Debian and e.g. Ubuntu, both in their goals and in their resources. > Sorry to sound rude, but i'm finding it's necessary to become blunt > with thick or uncaring developers. If you see it necessary, then please be 100% sure they're thick _and_ uncaring before addressing them like this. This mail of yours hurt my feelings. I don't expect my users to thank me everyday, but certainly I'm not here to get bashed. Learning to cope, -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: Los Piratas - Dos partes If there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. -- Albert Camus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdm crashes/freezes
On Monday 04 April 2005 09:22 pm, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * C. Hurschler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:14:40 +0200]: > > Hi, > > > > I'm using kde from sid and after a recent dist-upgrage kdm crashes and or > > freezes when i try to log in, gdm works ok. Alsa also seems to be > > suddenly hosed. Any suggestions > > Uhm, > > > ii kdm3.2.2-loco1KDE Display Manager > > what's this version? I guess that came from a non-official apt-get source entry. I commented out all non-debian sources from my sources.list and reinstalled it and now get 3.3.2-1, and lo and behold it works fine Alsa is still hosed though, and I have a sinking feeling that I may have screwed that up the same way. I had neglected to comment out http://themind.altervista.org/debian unstable main after having installed something I dont remember. I won't do that again. Thanks, Chris > > -- > Adeodato Simó > EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 > > Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one > instruction -- from which, by induction, one can deduce that every > program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work. -- C. Hurschler
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 03:57 +1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0200]: > > > I think you misunderstood me there. I actually meant including x.org in > > unstable, before sarge goes stable. I know that sarge isn't unstable > > (actually sid is), since I've been a debian user for three years now. :) > > I understand what you say, but the thing is that the Release Managers > request that developers only upload to unstable what is really meant > to migrate to testing. In other words, uploading something to unstable > means that your goal is to get it into sarge. > > So, for things not intended for sarge, unstable is not ok, and > experimental or some external repository must be used. Yes, but if that's the case, why no kde 3.4, gnome 2.10 or xorg in experimental then? By the time sarge releases it will already be six months, if not longer, outdated. That doesn't bode well. I find some of the posts from others on these lists (including developers) downright offensive and arrogant. It's the same old "fuck you, piss off we don't care" attitude and it's not going to win Debian any friends. If developers cease to listen to their users, they will find that their users move on to greener pastures. I did so quite some time ago, both Ubuntu, Kanotix and Libranet kick Debian's ass all over the place, why use Debian? This is what many are contemplating. Sorry to sound rude, but i'm finding it's necessary to become blunt with thick or uncaring developers. > Hope this clears up things a bit. Not really, it makes excuses, nothing more and nothing less. Dave > -- > Adeodato Simó > EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 > > You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd. > Proud Libranet GNU/Linux user Libranet The TOP Libranet distribution http://www.libranet.com/ Download your free trial of Libranet 2.8.1 today!
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 17:48 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan a écrit : > > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) > > won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people > > explained why it is like that, but I see many debian-users around me > > who find it very annoying also. And I cannot see why it is so hard to > > include x.org before sarge goes stable. It isn't called "unstable" > > for no reason. I'm not alone. You're not alone. > > well, sarge *should* be out. and we cannot delay it once more. and > adding x.org will need to make it stable on all archs, and then resolve > all compile problems it will generate, and so on. > > we don't have time for this. And x.org has been out for a year now. If it had been introduced a year ago, it'd have all (or near all) of the dependency problems and build problems most probably sorted out by now. If Ubuntu can do it, why can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself are silently asking. Debian is about the only distro to release with the old xfree86 X windowing system. People are expecting xorg and many won't be impressed and will look to other distros. Debian seems to be more and more a distro for developers, than the users, and this isn't good. > please don't forget that x.org, kdelibs, ... are used by *many* > packages, and that changing them, may need a new build of all of them, > and can generate new security/rc bugs. > > the real problem is not that sarge won't ship kde 3.4 or x.org, but that > sarge isn't out *yet*. I will say no more, because it will offend people, and i've already been told to shut my mouth because it doesn't conform to what the Debian developers want to hear. Tough shit. Dave Proud Libranet GNU/Linux user Libranet The TOP Libranet distribution http://www.libranet.com/ Download your free trial of Libranet 2.8.1 today!
Re: Fonts disappeared
Le Lun 4 Avril 2005 18:45, Matej Cepl a écrit : > Christopher Martin wrote: > > Then what do you suggest? Are there any free vector fonts, that > > aren't crap, that meet your requirements? Also, what would be the > > consequences of having bitstream as a default for you, i.e. what > > would you see? > > Well, I hate to admit it, but I switched almost completely to > msttcorefonts (Trebuchet for screen, Times New Roman for printing, > Arial for sans-serif, and Andale Mono for non-proportional fonts). so if you don't have ttf-bistream fonts installed, they are the next defaults in fontconfig. so I guess the fontconfig default families is the right call -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgplE0J31pnsr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
Le Lun 4 Avril 2005 20:06, Adeodato Simó a écrit : > * Hendrik Sattler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:21:13 +0200]: > > Not, if I start KMail from the shell where I exported that > > variable. Read my mail: > > 3291 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh > > $ echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO > > /tmp/gpg-nDWDgZ/S.gpg-agent:3291:1 > > > > And _from_that_shell_ I start "kmail". > > I _vaguely_ recall something about that not working. I mean, that > the variable has to be set soon in the KDE startup process, otherwise > it won't work. If it's like that, then it's a bit of a PITA, since > you can't restart the agent without restarting KDE (unless you do > some tricks like the one Pierre mentions in other post in this > thread). yeah, I really thing gpg-agent is broken in that sense (I mean in the design) in gpg-agent.conf there should be an option that gives the path to a socket, and the things that use it, should be able to ask its pid to the connected process... but well ... we have to work with what is given to us :/ -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpa3kg23hMn4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:26:36PM +0200, Adeodato Sim? wrote: > Well, all this updates are 3.3.2 revisions, so it should be safe. > I apologize for the inconvenience. kdesdk 3.3.2-3 has been built on > arm today, and should migrate to testing today or tomorrow, so is not > big trouble. > > Thanks for understanding, OK, thanks for the info. I'm glad the problem was already known and being dealt with. noah pgpLUwHCbIC0Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:26, Adeodato Simó wrote: > kdesdk 3.3.2-3 has been built on > arm today, and should migrate to testing today or tomorrow, so is not > big trouble. Hurray! Thank you Ben and KDE-team. (This means that a poxml patch I've been patiently waiting for gets into testing which allows removal of some ugly hacks in the buildscripts for the Installation Guide :-) pgp68a32nwKNG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:19, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Should packages be removed from the archive while there are still other > packages depending on them? We're supposed to be releasing sarge at > some point, right? Doesn't the removal of a dependency move us a step > in the wrong direction? Well, not if the problem is being corrected in a few days, i think. > Now we have to wait until the next version of > KDE propagates to testing (and hope it doesn't introduce any new RC > bugs!) > > noah wrong... just wait for kdesdk to progate to testing [1] [1] http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=kdesdk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
* Noah Meyerhans [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:52:27 -0400]: > kde-devel is currently uninstallable in sarge due to kbugbuster > depending on a non-existant libkcal2 package. > Perhaps I missed something, but wasn't testing supposed to protect us > against this? Yes. > How did a package whose dependencies were unfulfillable > propagate into testing? Because it was forced in, for other reasons. Nor I, nor the RMs, catched the issue, otherwise we would've acted differently (at least I would've). * Noah Meyerhans [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:19:07 -0400]: > Should packages be removed from the archive while there are still other > packages depending on them? Not in testing, no (already explained why it did). Sometimes in unstable. > We're supposed to be releasing sarge at > some point, right? Doesn't the removal of a dependency move us a step > in the wrong direction? Now we have to wait until the next version of > KDE propagates to testing (and hope it doesn't introduce any new RC > bugs!) Well, all this updates are 3.3.2 revisions, so it should be safe. I apologize for the inconvenience. kdesdk 3.3.2-3 has been built on arm today, and should migrate to testing today or tomorrow, so is not big trouble. Thanks for understanding, -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary. -- William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:14:51PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote: > Today I saw that there was libkcal2a package coming in conflicting with > libkcal2. So for some reason I guess libkcal2 was removed from the > archieve leaving kbugbuster without the library it depends on. You can > update to kbugbuster from unstable which is fine (depends on the new > libkcal). Should packages be removed from the archive while there are still other packages depending on them? We're supposed to be releasing sarge at some point, right? Doesn't the removal of a dependency move us a step in the wrong direction? Now we have to wait until the next version of KDE propagates to testing (and hope it doesn't introduce any new RC bugs!) noah pgphO6Xv09e4Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Noah Meyerhans wrote: kde-devel is currently uninstallable in sarge due to kbugbuster depending on a non-existant libkcal2 package. Perhaps I missed something, but wasn't testing supposed to protect us against this? How did a package whose dependencies were unfulfillable propagate into testing? I think it was the other way round. Today I saw that there was libkcal2a package coming in conflicting with libkcal2. So for some reason I guess libkcal2 was removed from the archieve leaving kbugbuster without the library it depends on. You can update to kbugbuster from unstable which is fine (depends on the new libkcal). *t -- --- Tomas Pospisek http://sourcepole.com - Linux & Open Source Solutions --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde-devel uninstallable in sarge
kde-devel is currently uninstallable in sarge due to kbugbuster depending on a non-existant libkcal2 package. Perhaps I missed something, but wasn't testing supposed to protect us against this? How did a package whose dependencies were unfulfillable propagate into testing? pgpxvZ3qemswB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kdm crashes/freezes
* C. Hurschler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:14:40 +0200]: > Hi, > I'm using kde from sid and after a recent dist-upgrage kdm crashes and or > freezes when i try to log in, gdm works ok. Alsa also seems to be suddenly > hosed. Any suggestions Uhm, > ii kdm3.2.2-loco1KDE Display Manager what's this version? -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one instruction -- from which, by induction, one can deduce that every program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German Umlaute in KDE 3.3.2
* Joerg Reckers [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:04:13 +0200]: > ok if i export > LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 > it is working :- even the euro! > but > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > is not :-( So don't do that. ;-) Seriously, the @euro thing was a hack for iso-8859 locales, and not needed at all for UTF-8. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud: after a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kdm crashes/freezes
Hi, I'm using kde from sid and after a recent dist-upgrage kdm crashes and or freezes when i try to log in, gdm works ok. Alsa also seems to be suddenly hosed. Any suggestions Thanks, Chris Linux athlon 2.6.9-2-k7 #1 Sat Jan 8 15:38:24 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux ii kde-core 43 The K Desktop Environment (Core) ii kde-servicemen 0.6.1-1Kde service menu for Image manipulation ii kdeaddons 3.3.1-1add-on plugins and applets provided with KDE ii kdeaddons-kfil 3.3.1-1KDE file dialog plugins for text files and f ii kdeadmin 3.3.2-1KDE Administration tools metapackage ii kdeadmin-kfile 3.3.2-1KDE File dialog plugins for deb and rpm file ii kdeartwork 3.3.2-1themes, styles and more from the official KD ii kdeartwork-mis 3.3.2-1various multimedia goodies released with KDE ii kdeartwork-sty 3.3.2-1widget styles released with KDE ii kdeartwork-the 3.3.2-1icon themes released with KDE ii kdeartwork-the 3.3.2-1window decoration themes released with KDE ii kdebase3.3.2-1KDE Base metapackage ii kdebase-bin3.3.2-1KDE Base (binaries) ii kdebase-data 3.3.2-1KDE Base (shared data) ii kdebase-doc3.3.2-1KDE Base Library Documentation ii kdebase-kio-pl 3.3.2-1KDE I/O Slaves ii kdebluetooth 0.0.cvs2004101 KDE Bluetooth Framework ii kdeedu-data3.3.2-2shared data for KDE educational applications ii kdegames 3.3.2-1KDE Games metapackage ii kdegames-card- 3.3.2-1Card decks for KDE games ii kdegraphics3.3.2-1KDE Graphics metapackage ii kdegraphics-kf 3.3.2-1provide meta information for graphic files ii kdelibs3.3.2-4KDE core libraries metapackage ii kdelibs-bin3.3.2-4.0.2KDE core binaries ii kdelibs-data 3.3.2-4KDE core shared data ii kdelibs4 3.3.2-4.0.2KDE core libraries ii kdelirc3.3.2-1KDE infrared control ii kdemultimedia 3.3.2-1KDE Multimedia metapackage ii kdemultimedia- 3.3.2-1Multimedia data for kappfinder ii kdemultimedia- 3.3.2-1au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile ii kdemultimedia- 3.3.2-1Support for browsing audio CDs under Konquer ii kdenetwork 3.3.2-1KDE Network metapackage ii kdenetwork-fil 3.3.2-1KDE Network Filesharing Configuration ii kdepasswd 3.3.2-1KDE password changer ii kdepim 3.3.2-2KDE Personal Information Management metapack ii kdepim-doc 3.3.2-2KDE Personal Information Management library ii kdepim-doc-htm 3.3.2-2KDE PIM documentation in HTML format ii kdepim-kfile-p 3.3.2-2KDE File dialog plugins for palm and vcf fil ii kdepim-kio-plu 3.3.2-2KDE pim I/O Slaves ii kdepim-wizards 3.3.2-2KDE server configuration wizards ii kdeprint 3.3.2-1KDE Print ii kdesktop 3.3.2-1KDE Desktop ii kdessh 3.3.2-1KDE ssh frontend ii kdeutils 3.3.2-1KDE Utilities metapackage ii kdewallpapers 3.3.2-1wallpapers released with KDE ii kdf3.3.2-1KDE disk free ii kdict 3.3.2-1KDE Dictionary Client ii kdm3.2.2-loco1KDE Display Manager ii kdvi 3.3.2-1KDE dvi viewer ii kmilo 3.3.2-1KDE kded hardware support module ii libkdeedu1 3.3.2-2library for use with KDE educational apps ii libkdegames1 3.3.2-1KDE games library and common files ii libkdegst0.6 0.6.1-8KDE bindings for GStreamer (shared libraries ii libkdenetwork2 3.3.2-2KDE Network library ii libkdepim1 3.3.2-2KDE PIM library ii libkdgantt03.2.3-1KD's gantt charting library rc oooqs-kde 2.0.3-4.0.1OpenOffice.org QuickStarter applet for KDE ii xmms-kde 3.1-1 MP3 player integrated into the KDE panel -- C. Hurschler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German Umlaute in KDE 3.3.2
ok if i export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 it is working :- even the euro! but [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not :-( so just the euro doing problems. joerg Am Montag, 4. April 2005 20:42 schrieb Joerg Reckers: > I Have problems typing german Umlaute in KDE apps. > > The problem occurs since i changed to UTF-8 a few days ago. > > the Problem (in kde): > i can type german umlaute in NOT kde-apps like: xterm, firefox, gedit, > i get only rubbish if i try to type umlaute in kde-apps like: konsole, > kedit, kmail, > > > i am using kde 3.3.2 on a debian sid system. > my locales are set to the following: > > ~$ locale > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > LC_CTYPE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_NUMERIC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_TIME="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_COLLATE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_MONETARY="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_MESSAGES="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_PAPER="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_NAME="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_ADDRESS="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_TELEPHONE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_MEASUREMENT="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > LC_ALL= > > (i am getting that in konsole (as i do in xterm), so kde seems to know > these settings) > > -i tried to change the keyboard layout in kcontrollcenter, no luck. (it is > set to "de" right now) > -i tried with a fresh user, still no luck > > but i have no problems if i start the qt-apps under gnome. e.g: > kdm->gnome->kedit: no problem, everything works > > > i tried to google on this problem and didn't found an answer, so if someone > has the same problem, or better, a solution, please let me know > > thanks, Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
German Umlaute in KDE 3.3.2
I Have problems typing german Umlaute in KDE apps. The problem occurs since i changed to UTF-8 a few days ago. the Problem (in kde): i can type german umlaute in NOT kde-apps like: xterm, firefox, gedit, i get only rubbish if i try to type umlaute in kde-apps like: konsole, kedit, kmail, i am using kde 3.3.2 on a debian sid system. my locales are set to the following: ~$ locale [EMAIL PROTECTED] LC_CTYPE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_NUMERIC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_TIME="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_COLLATE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_MONETARY="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_MESSAGES="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_PAPER="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_NAME="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_ADDRESS="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_TELEPHONE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_MEASUREMENT="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_IDENTIFICATION="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" LC_ALL= (i am getting that in konsole (as i do in xterm), so kde seems to know these settings) -i tried to change the keyboard layout in kcontrollcenter, no luck. (it is set to "de" right now) -i tried with a fresh user, still no luck but i have no problems if i start the qt-apps under gnome. e.g: kdm->gnome->kedit: no problem, everything works i tried to google on this problem and didn't found an answer, so if someone has the same problem, or better, a solution, please let me know thanks, Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
Christopher Martin wrote: > Then what do you suggest? Are there any free vector fonts, that aren't > crap, that meet your requirements? Also, what would be the consequences of > having bitstream as a default for you, i.e. what would you see? Well, I hate to admit it, but I switched almost completely to msttcorefonts (Trebuchet for screen, Times New Roman for printing, Arial for sans-serif, and Andale Mono for non-proportional fonts). Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 But if we find we have left our bones to bleach in these desert sands for nothing, beware the fury of the legions... -- Centurion in a letter home from North Africa 3rd Century -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what happened to kalyxo.org?
> * Andrew Schulman [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:34:09 -0400]: > > I can't resolve kalyxo.org for several days now. Did their domain name > > expire? Or did they suddenly go under? Thanks, Andrew. > > I believe they're changing registrars, and some trouble did arise in > the middle. Perhaps this line in /etc/hosts will help you: > > 62.104.23.254 archive.kalyxo.org Thanks, yes, that takes care of it. Andrew. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
* Hendrik Sattler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:21:13 +0200]: > Not, if I start KMail from the shell where I exported that variable. > Read my mail: > 3291 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh > $ echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO > /tmp/gpg-nDWDgZ/S.gpg-agent:3291:1 > And _from_that_shell_ I start "kmail". I _vaguely_ recall something about that not working. I mean, that the variable has to be set soon in the KDE startup process, otherwise it won't work. If it's like that, then it's a bit of a PITA, since you can't restart the agent without restarting KDE (unless you do some tricks like the one Pierre mentions in other post in this thread). -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what happened to kalyxo.org?
* Andrew Schulman [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:34:09 -0400]: > I can't resolve kalyxo.org for several days now. Did their domain name > expire? Or did they suddenly go under? Thanks, Andrew. I believe they're changing registrars, and some trouble did arise in the middle. Perhaps this line in /etc/hosts will help you: 62.104.23.254 archive.kalyxo.org -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 If you want the holes in your knowledge showing up try teaching someone. -- Alan Cox -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
* Matej Cepl [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:48:42 -0400]: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > > default. > Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is useless for me > because it does not support any characters outside of ISO 8859-1 area. Uhm, the font I use has certainly not any chinise characters in it. Since a short time ago (I believe, but not completely sure, since fontconfig 2.3.1), though, it displays strings like 'æçæåèåæäé', picking the characters from other fonts. -- Adeodato Simà EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Q: How do Debian developers play Russian rulette? A: Everone contributes a key revocation certificate and chooses a number from one to ten. Then everybody executes a random generator - if it's a match, then his revocation certificate is submitted to the keyservers. -- seen on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
* Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0200]: > I think you misunderstood me there. I actually meant including x.org in > unstable, before sarge goes stable. I know that sarge isn't unstable > (actually sid is), since I've been a debian user for three years now. :) I understand what you say, but the thing is that the Release Managers request that developers only upload to unstable what is really meant to migrate to testing. In other words, uploading something to unstable means that your goal is to get it into sarge. So, for things not intended for sarge, unstable is not ok, and experimental or some external repository must be used. Hope this clears up things a bit. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
* Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:35:04 +0200]: > The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't include KDE 3.4 ^ No. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Aim for the impossible and you will achieve the improbable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Monday 04 April 2005 18:20, Derek Broughton wrote: > On Monday 04 April 2005 12:35, Dennie Bastiaan wrote: > > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) > > won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people > > explained why it is like that, but I see many debian-users around me who > > find it very annoying also. And I cannot see why it is so hard to include > > x.org before sarge goes stable. It isn't called "unstable" for no reason. > > I'm not alone. You're not alone. > > Well Sarge _isn't_, and has never been, unstable. I think you misunderstood me there. I actually meant including x.org in unstable, before sarge goes stable. I know that sarge isn't unstable (actually sid is), since I've been a debian user for three years now. :) > Don't you consider it pretty rude to say something inflammatory, and then > insist you've got no time for the debate? I just told how I felt. I didn't inflame anything. I'm sure debian already knew that most users don't like the slow release-cycle. It has been debated over and over again. That's why I don't want to make time for it. If you find it rude, then I'm sorry, but I'm just being honest. :) -Dennie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Monday 04 April 2005 12:35, Dennie Bastiaan wrote: > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't > include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people explained > why it is like that, but I see many debian-users around me who find it very > annoying also. And I cannot see why it is so hard to include x.org before > sarge goes stable. It isn't called "unstable" for no reason. I'm not alone. > You're not alone. Well Sarge _isn't_, and has never been, unstable. But I was expecting Sarge 2 years ago. There's no way we'll ever get it in stable because everybody and their dog insists on getting something else into sarge first. > I don't have time to debate it anyway. Don't you consider it pretty rude to say something inflammatory, and then insist you've got no time for the debate? -- derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crashes and hangs in KDE 3.4
Alejandro Exojo wrote: > [ Replying a bit late, sorry. ] > > El Lunes, 28 de Marzo de 2005 19:13, Andrew Schulman escribió: >> In the case of kmail, I moved my mail out of .kde into .mail, by >> modifying kmailrc-- can't remember the details now, but it's in the >> kmail FAQ. > > AFAIK, only in the new version the local mail is stored in ~/.kde, and it > is still kept in ~/Mail if such directory exists at startup. Sometimes since 3.2.0 (or some version like that) it was and it is possible (I am currently with 3.3.2) to use this in kmailrc: [General] folders=/home/matej/.mail And it is documented here http://docs.kde.org/en/3.3/kdepim/kmail/faq.html#id2911501 Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 - Do you think of yourself as a Christian artist? - I'm an artist who is a Christian. I'm not a Christian artist. -- Johny Cash in his last interview -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 15:48, Matej Cepl a écrit : > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) > > depends upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + > > antialiasing the default. > > Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is useless > for me because it does not support any characters outside of ISO > 8859-1 area. hmmm, in fact, the good idea would be to use the fontconfig : serif sans-serif and monospace defaults. those should be quite sensible, and they *should* work on every host, envery encoding. else you may want to bug fontconfig maintainer to ask him to choose some more sensible settings. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpw7mHRqqo7o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fonts disappeared
On April 4, 2005 09:48, Matej Cepl wrote: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > > default. > > Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is useless for > me because it does not support any characters outside of ISO 8859-1 area. Then what do you suggest? Are there any free vector fonts, that aren't crap, that meet your requirements? Also, what would be the consequences of having bitstream as a default for you, i.e. what would you see? Cheers, Christopher Martin pgp3oL0KCbCFE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fonts disappeared
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > default. Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is useless for me because it does not support any characters outside of ISO 8859-1 area. Matěj -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Economics is the only discipline where two people can win a Nobel Prize for saying exactly the opposite thing! -- Eamonn Butler of Adam Smith Institute on Nobel Prize awards for year 2001 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Monday 04 April 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan wrote: > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't > include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people explained I'll tell you what's annoying. Sarge should have been released months ago, and it wasn't. That's fucking annoying, excuse my language.. Anders -- - Debian/Unstable - KDE 3.3.2 - KMail 1.7.2 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan a écrit : > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) > won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people > explained why it is like that, but I see many debian-users around me > who find it very annoying also. And I cannot see why it is so hard to > include x.org before sarge goes stable. It isn't called "unstable" > for no reason. I'm not alone. You're not alone. well, sarge *should* be out. and we cannot delay it once more. and adding x.org will need to make it stable on all archs, and then resolve all compile problems it will generate, and so on. we don't have time for this. please don't forget that x.org, kdelibs, ... are used by *many* packages, and that changing them, may need a new build of all of them, and can generate new security/rc bugs. the real problem is not that sarge won't ship kde 3.4 or x.org, but that sarge isn't out *yet*. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpXsPKtqQ4WY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Hi List, > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people explained why it is like that, but I see many debian-users around me who find it very annoying also. And I cannot see why it is so hard to include x.org before sarge goes stable. It isn't called "unstable" for no reason. I'm not alone. You're not alone. But as always I will get a reply in which I will be proven wrong. But that's ok. I don't have time to debate it anyway. Dennie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Run Command..." dialog doesn't appear
Platform: Intel Pentium M (Dell Latitude D600 laptop), debian sarge (testing/unstable), kicker 3.3.2-1 Typing Alt-F2, or selecting "Run Command..." from the KDE menu doesn't make the run command dialog appear. Is there something I can do to make the kicker application log why it doesn't open it? Some sort of verbose logging, perhaps? Are there any other obvious troubleshooting tricks? Some details on the problem: When the OS this machine was installed from a sarge netinstall CD on January 7 (or thereabouts), the "Run command" dialog appeared when I typed Alt-F2 or selected "Run Command" from the KDE menu. After some apt-get dist-upgrade, or other, the dialog stopped appearing. It may also be caused by changes done in the control panel. I have removed keyboard shortcuts that conflicted with Opera and GNU Emacs. I did that before doing any apt-get dist-upgrade operations. Could it be that my modifications collided somehow with the upgrade...? How could I find out? I have a different sarge machine here with the same version of kicker installed, that does not have this problem. Thanx! - Steinar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crashes and hangs in KDE 3.4
[ Replying a bit late, sorry. ] El Lunes, 28 de Marzo de 2005 19:13, Andrew Schulman escribió: > In the case of kmail, I moved my mail out of .kde into .mail, by > modifying kmailrc-- can't remember the details now, but it's in the > kmail FAQ. AFAIK, only in the new version the local mail is stored in ~/.kde, and it is still kept in ~/Mail if such directory exists at startup. Another simple solution, is using symlinks. For example, I have all my Kopete and Koversation logs under ~/personal/pim/logs, because I put symlinks in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs pointing to there. This way I have in sync this data between my laptop and my desktop. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://darkshines.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
> The problem is magically gone, now, at next reboot we'll see how long ;) I hate those. Spend hours trying to identify the cause of the problem by process of elimination, until there's nothing left... because the problem has gone away. Damn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4 in sid
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur a écrit : > Hi List, > > i've searched the archive but did not find an answer. Will kde 3.4 > handled like x.org -- both will float into sid when sarge is stable? yes it is > Or are there plans to upload 3.4 into sid before sagte gets stable? no it won't. well, I guess we may upload them to experimental one day. or not... -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpkbb7BVCHyr.pgp Description: PGP signature
kde 3.4 in sid
Hi List, i've searched the archive but did not find an answer. Will kde 3.4 handled like x.org -- both will float into sid when sarge is stable? Or are there plans to upload 3.4 into sid before sagte gets stable? Sorry for beeing so annoying, I currently have "alioth-3.4" installed on my laptop and I just can't wait to get these packages officially on my desktop ;) Bastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 15:03, Bastian Venthur a écrit : > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >> Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, > >> whicht does not seem to be installed according the the > >> font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). > > > > yeah that setting is really odd. > > > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) > > depends upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + > > antialiasing the default. > > Does someone have to fill a bugreport against this issue, or will > this post be "heard" be the right developer? well, I've set the right Cc: so that the debian KDE crew (that I'm part of) would discuss that. so you can consider that beeing heard. now we'll see if we really wan't that or not (even if I can't see issues with that) -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpIFReA4XHeM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fonts disappeared
Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, >> whicht does not seem to be installed according the the >> font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). > > yeah that setting is really odd. > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > default. > Does someone have to fill a bugreport against this issue, or will this post be "heard" be the right developer? Bastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 14:40 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > ok, so my guess is that you don't tell gnupg to use gpg-agent, so add > 'use-agent' in .gnupg/gpg.conf If that's not there, the Xsession script would not start gpg-agent ;) The problem is magically gone, now, at next reboot we'll see how long ;) HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
> Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, > whicht does not seem to be installed according the the > font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). yeah that setting is really odd. since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the default. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgplTAKv5BhUb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 14:21 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > > another option, is to find the right socket, and symlink it in .gnupg/ > > eg. and then do that : > > > > gpg-wrap.sh: > > #!/bin/bash > > export GPG_AGENT_INFO=$HOME/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:1234:1 > > exec "$@" > > I'll try that one. That's funny: I did this once and it somehow switched something in KMail. Now it works even without it. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
Charles Logan wrote: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't listed in the font settings of any apps. There > were some kde packages upgrades in this last batch as well, but I'm not > where I can see what they were at the moment. Anyone else experience > this, or is it a local snafu on my end? Same here in Sid, allthough this bug seems to exist quite a while in KDE 3.3 and is even on my alioth-KDE 3.4. Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, whicht does not seem to be installed according the the font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
ok, so my guess is that you don't tell gnupg to use gpg-agent, so add 'use-agent' in .gnupg/gpg.conf -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp2gDbRIjSwD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 13:54 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 13:16, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > > I even restarted it. My config is ok: > > here is your problem. > in GPG_AGENT_INFO you have the path to the socket, the pid, and a number > (I don't know its meaning) > > if your restart gpg-agent, then kmail won't find gpg-agent again, since > the location changed, but not the env var it sees. Not, if I start KMail from the shell where I exported that variable. Read my mail: 3291 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh $ echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO /tmp/gpg-nDWDgZ/S.gpg-agent:3291:1 And _from_that_shell_ I start "kmail". > > so you have to kill gpg-agent, quit X, and log again, and that should > work out from the box. That's what's done when you boot a computer. And that's what I did this morning. > don't forget to add 'use-agent' in .gnupg/gpg.conf It's not that gpg-agent doesn't get started by the script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, in fact it does. > another option, is to find the right socket, and symlink it in .gnupg/ > eg. and then do that : > > gpg-wrap.sh: > #!/bin/bash > export GPG_AGENT_INFO=$HOME/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:1234:1 > exec "$@" I'll try that one. HS
Re: Fonts disappeared
Thanks, Josh! I really should have read TFM before complaining... Clemens On Monday 04 April 2005 14:06, Josh Metzler wrote: > > And, be sure to answer that you want to enable bitmapped fonts. The > default is to disable them. You had probably edited /etc/fonts/local.conf > to enable them, but fontconfig now uses some other method. > > Josh -- Clemens Bergmann Schwertlilienweg 14 68259 Mannheim 0177-8647077 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
On Monday 04 April 2005 04:13 am, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Charles Logan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:37:50 -0500]: > > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > > and available, but aren't listed in the font settings of any apps. There > > were some kde packages upgrades in this last batch as well, but I'm not > > where I can see what they were at the moment. Anyone else experience > > this, or is it a local snafu on my end? > > Did you upgrade fontconfig too? There have been several changes in the > configuration introduced in the 2.3.x series, so it could be that. > dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig? And, be sure to answer that you want to enable bitmapped fonts. The default is to disable them. You had probably edited /etc/fonts/local.conf to enable them, but fontconfig now uses some other method. Josh
Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 13:16, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > I even restarted it. My config is ok: here is your problem. in GPG_AGENT_INFO you have the path to the socket, the pid, and a number (I don't know its meaning) if your restart gpg-agent, then kmail won't find gpg-agent again, since the location changed, but not the env var it sees. so you have to kill gpg-agent, quit X, and log again, and that should work out from the box. don't forget to add 'use-agent' in .gnupg/gpg.conf another option, is to find the right socket, and symlink it in .gnupg/ eg. and then do that : gpg-wrap.sh: #!/bin/bash export GPG_AGENT_INFO=$HOME/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:1234:1 exec "$@" I've tested it, and afaik, even with a stupid pid, kmail works fine. I guess the pid is used if you want to send HUP sigs to the gpg-agent daemon, so maybe you can discover it with the appropriate 'pidof' or ps aux|grep call. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpyEFHWaJlSx.pgp Description: PGP signature
OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge
Hi, I only made the Sarge updates, lately: ii kmail 3.3.2-2KDE Email client But now KMail does not want to use gpg-agent any more. It just tells me, that gpg-agent is not running The gpg-agent package is installed (and the computer was rebooted this morning). gpg-agent is running: 3291 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh $ echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO /tmp/gpg-nDWDgZ/S.gpg-agent:3291:1 I even restarted it. My config is ok: $ cat .gnupg/gpg-agent.conf pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry no-grab default-cache-ttl 1800 $ readlink -f /usr/bin/pinentry /usr/bin/pinentry-qt Any suggestions? HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KDE 3.3.1 screeensaver crash
Title: RE: KDE 3.3.1 screeensaver crash Mario Horvat wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm having some problems with KDE 3.3.1. The install was nice and > smooth, no problems at all. No broken packages or dependencies. > However, I noticed one little issue inside the kde session. Whenever > the screen is locked in KDE, and the screen saver comes on, after a > while the session dies and it boots the user out of the session back > to the KDM... > > Has anyone experienced this behaviour at all? > Hi all, I experienced the same behaviour with KDE 3.3.1 in Sarge. Any new hint? Massimiliano
File manager super user mode not working
hello all, I am using kde 3.3.2 of sarge and have noticed that the file manager under the super user mode does not work correctly, i.e. all text documents are viewed as read-only and cannot be modified. Anyone experiencing this? Do I need to configure something manually? I don't recollect any problem with previuos kde versions. -- On this laptop no Windows system survives and LINUX POWER reigns UNLIMITED. Successfully Microsoft free since December 2002. GnuPG key ID: 28A61681 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what happened to kalyxo.org?
I can't resolve kalyxo.org for several days now. Did their domain name expire? Or did they suddenly go under? Thanks, Andrew. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
* Charles Logan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:37:50 -0500]: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't listed in the font settings of any apps. There > were some kde packages upgrades in this last batch as well, but I'm not > where I can see what they were at the moment. Anyone else experience > this, or is it a local snafu on my end? Did you upgrade fontconfig too? There have been several changes in the configuration introduced in the 2.3.x series, so it could be that. dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig? -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: Los Piratas - Hoy por ayer [acústico] I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve immortality throguh not dying. -- Woody Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
konq cervisia and bookmark toolbar.
Hi, Was there a resolution for the problem that the bookmark toolbar is always showing up when changing to cvs frontend mode in konq filemanagement? I'm on 3.4.0 atm, and if I remember correctly the problem was on 3.3.x also, but haven't seen any resolution for the problem yet, so if somebody could hint me to the right direction I would be happy. Cheers /Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
On Monday 04 April 2005 07:37, Charles Logan wrote: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't listed in the font settings of any apps. There > were some kde packages upgrades in this last batch as well, but I'm not > where I can see what they were at the moment. Anyone else experience > this, or is it a local snafu on my end? I can confirm this on the Sarge system of my significant other. Amonst others, the fixed font has vanished. Jan -- Hating the Yankees is as American as pizza pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax. -- Mike Royko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts disappeared
I have the same problem. However, it's not limited to KDE, the fonts are missing in Mozilla and Firefox as well. They seem to be still available in Gnucash and in OpenOffice. The recent updates brought new packages for xfonts and gsfonts. Clemens On Monday 04 April 2005 07:37, Charles Logan wrote: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't listed in the font settings of any apps. There > were some kde packages upgrades in this last batch as well, but I'm not > where I can see what they were at the moment. Anyone else experience > this, or is it a local snafu on my end? -- Clemens Bergmann Schwertlilienweg 14 68259 Mannheim 0177-8647077 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
