Re: usb storage problems
* Henk Loke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Sep 18 15:28 -0500]: > There is no need to right click, (double) left click and it gets mounted and > opened automagical... True, but I don't normally use Konquerer. I'm still a Midnight Commander fan. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org and kde 3.4 upgrade
> I'd upgrade to X.org first, and then KDE. >If you plan to upgrade to x.org be sure to first uninstall fglrx driver (it's for xfree), then install xorg, and last install fglrx driver for xorg. I use packages from > I second this. Thanks very much for the advice. Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 14:11 schrieb Curt Howland:
>
>>Worse, the warrantee specifies that if I install anything over
>>the WinXP that the laptop came with, my hardware warrantee is
>>void.
>
>
> Hmm, vendors often write things that are not compliant with local law (they
> try anyway), e.g. the above statement would probably be meaningless in
> Germany.
Not only in Germany but in the whole European Union. All hardware has a
2 year guarantee by law (for the first six months problems are assumed
to be caused by manufacturing errors and must be replaced, for the next
18 months it is the client who must prove that the piece is faulty).
Certain companies may offer a longer "straightforward" guarantee time,
but that's what the European Directive ("Directiva Europea" in Spanish,
I'm not sure about the translation).
So the guarantee about installing anything other than WinXP on you
laptop probably refers to the computer as a whole; but if you live in
Europe then the RAM modules, processor, DVD drive, etc etc are still
under legal guarantee if the two years aren't up. If that is the case,
I'd recommend visiting a Consummers Office to get more accurate
information as to what to do next.
--
Lu.
I will live forever or die trying.
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Re: usb storage problems
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 01:04 +1000, Theo Schmidt wrote: > > Thanks, David. > > Could the uhci problems below be part of my problems? > > Sep 18 09:50:58 tbox pci.agent[543]: eepro100: already loaded > Sep 18 09:50:58 tbox pci.agent[543]: e100: can't be loaded > Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: missing kernel or user mode driver e100 > Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: usb-uhci: blacklisted > Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox kernel: uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface > driver v1.1 > Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: uhci: can't be loaded > Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: missing kernel or user mode driver uhci > Sep 18 09:51:03 tbox usb.agent[632]: usbcore: already loaded > > The rest of the output is similar to the dmesg output at the beginning of > this > mail. > > Thanks also for the messages indicating that with the newest kernel my > problems will be over. I live in hope! (I'm still using 2.4.20-xfs because > I'm wary of replacing the kernel, having had problems with this in the past.) > > Theo Schmidt See if you can load the uhci module via: modprobe uhci If not, it's not built into your kernel. To be honest, I'm not sure if uhci will have anything to do with this or not. I've seen my iPod mini do similar things (admittedly it's definitely a piece of faulty hardware in my case). There are 3 types of USB systems as far as I can remember - ehci, uhci, ohci. I generally make sure that any kernel that I have has all 3 compiled. You're using a very old kernel now as well - 2.4.20 is ancient. I'd really recommend upgrading to a newer kernel, more than likely one of the Debian 2.6 kernel images that are available. I noticed that you're using xfs as well - I have no experience with xfs, so I can't say if that's possibly something to do with this (I doubt it though to be honest). Hope this helps, Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org and kde 3.4 upgrade
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 13:09 -0600, Tim Folger wrote: > I'm currently running kde 3.3.2 and XF86 on sid, and am planning on upgrading > to X.org. Is this safe to do now? Would it be better to first upgrade to kde > 3.4 and then do the migration to X.org? (I've been delaying my kde upgrade > until koffice is available.) I also have installed ati's fglrx driver, and > was wondering if this would be automatically copied into X.org's > configuration when I upgrade. I upgraded to X.org awhile before I upgraded KDE. I'd say upgrading to X.org first is the best way to go. Rick -- Rick's Law: What cannot be imagined will be accomplished by a fool. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: usb storage problems
Op zondag 18 september 2005 14:47, schreef Nate Bargmann: > I had a similar question maybe ten days ago and it is now working > flawlessly. I have: > > Linux 2.6.12 > udev > pmount > hal > KDE 3.4.2 > > All I had to do was configure the desktop and select Behavior then the > Device icons tab and enable Show device icons. From there I selected > the ones I want to show. My CDs and DVDs appear as well as my USB > stick and camera (USB mass storage). None of them mount automatically > which is what I prefer as it is easy enough to right click the icon and > mount the device. There is no need to right click, (double) left click and it gets mounted and opened automagical... > > This functionality rocks! > > - Nate >> > > -- > Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft > Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. > http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of > My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" > http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org and kde 3.4 upgrade
On Sunday 18 September 2005 21:44, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > I'm currently running kde 3.3.2 and XF86 on sid, and am planning on > > upgrading to X.org. Is this safe to do now? > > If there's not any untransitioned application that you _need_... > > > Would it be better to first upgrade to kde > > 3.4 and then do the migration to X.org? > > I'd upgrade to X.org first, and then KDE. I second this. Anders -- - Debian/Unstable - KDE 3.4.2 - KMail 1.8.2 -
Re: usb storage problems
Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 21:34 schrieb Petr Baláš: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pmount -d /dev/sda1 > > resolved /dev/sda1 to device /dev/sda1 > > mount point to be used: /media/sda1 > > no iocharset given, current locale encoding is ISO-8859-15 > > Cleaning lock directory /var/lock/pmount/_dev_sda1 > > device_whitelist: checking /etc/pmount.allow... > > device_whitlisted(): nothing matched, returning 0 > > find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1 > > Fehler: konnte sysfs-Verzeichnis nicht erfragen > > > > There is absolutely nothing in my folder /sys. > > Did you have: > none/syssysfs defaults 0 0 > in your /etc/fstab? Simply install the sysfsutils and you don't need that line. HS
Re: X.org and kde 3.4 upgrade
If you plan to upgrade to x.org be sure to first uninstall fglrx driver (it's for xfree), then install xorg, and last install fglrx driver for xorg. I use packages from http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html A last note: with my mobile radeon 9700 fglrx 8.16.20 doesn't work, I use 8.14.13... Bye Adeodato Simó ha scritto: I'm currently running kde 3.3.2 and XF86 on sid, and am planning on upgrading to X.org. Is this safe to do now? If there's not any untransitioned application that you _need_... Would it be better to first upgrade to kde 3.4 and then do the migration to X.org? I'd upgrade to X.org first, and then KDE.
Re: X.org and kde 3.4 upgrade
> I'm currently running kde 3.3.2 and XF86 on sid, and am planning on upgrading > to X.org. Is this safe to do now? If there's not any untransitioned application that you _need_... > Would it be better to first upgrade to kde > 3.4 and then do the migration to X.org? I'd upgrade to X.org first, and then KDE. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: Chavela Vargas - Mi segundo amor When all is summed up, a man never speaks of himself without loss; his accusations of himself are always believed; his praises never. -- Michel de Montaigne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X.org and kde 3.4 upgrade
I'm currently running kde 3.3.2 and XF86 on sid, and am planning on upgrading to X.org. Is this safe to do now? Would it be better to first upgrade to kde 3.4 and then do the migration to X.org? (I've been delaying my kde upgrade until koffice is available.) I also have installed ati's fglrx driver, and was wondering if this would be automatically copied into X.org's configuration when I upgrade. TIA, Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting latest KDE (Quanta) in testing
Ross Boylan wrote: > Does it make any sense to think about building Quanta (or other KDE > apps) in an earlier KDE environment, or is that just a bad idea? The most simple way is to update to KDE 3.4.1 from this repository (add this to /etc/apt/sources.list and then aptitude update;aptitude dist-upgrade): deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./ and then you can compile 3.4.2 quanta if you wish and if Quanta 3.3 (which is in that repository) is not good enough for you. Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/ GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC If Patrick Henry thought that taxation without representation was bad, he should see how bad it is with representation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting latest KDE (Quanta) in testing
I've had a bunch of problems with Quanta in testing (etch), and have learned that some of them may be solved in later versions. So I'm interested in running Quanta 3.4, or even the soon to be 3.5 in testing, which is currently at KDE 3.3. There were messages about backports recently, but they, and the Kalyxo project it references, appear to be about backports to stable (sarge). Also, they concern backports of the entire KDE system; I would prefer to get just the one package. I believe testing has already diverged significantly from stable because it has made, or is in the middle of, the transition to g++ 4. So I don't think backports to stable will work for testing. I see that 3.4 is in unstable (sid), but if I try to pull it in I will also get lots of other sid stuff, KDE and otherwise. If possible, I'd like to avoid being that bleeding edge. Does it make any sense to think about building Quanta (or other KDE apps) in an earlier KDE environment, or is that just a bad idea? Any recommendations about how best to proceed? Basically, my goal is to get a cutting edge Quanta with minimal necessary disruption to the rest of the system. Thanks. Ross Boylan P.S. I've seen some references to the Kalyxo project having changed it's name. Not sure what's that about, and don't see mention of it at http://kalyxo.mornfall.net/. My problems with Quanta have included being confused by the choices in the new project wizard, some of which apparently have been eliminated, and being unable to up or download sites via ftp, which may be some general kio issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb storage problems
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pmount -d /dev/sda1 > resolved /dev/sda1 to device /dev/sda1 > mount point to be used: /media/sda1 > no iocharset given, current locale encoding is ISO-8859-15 > Cleaning lock directory /var/lock/pmount/_dev_sda1 > device_whitelist: checking /etc/pmount.allow... > device_whitlisted(): nothing matched, returning 0 > find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1 > Fehler: konnte sysfs-Verzeichnis nicht erfragen > > There is absolutely nothing in my folder /sys. Did you have: none/syssysfs defaults 0 0 in your /etc/fstab? -- Petr Baláš - petr at balas dot cz
Re: Xine error
On Sunday 18 September 2005 11:25, larinia wrote: > Well, I have done lots of Googling myself for the last few months. Most > post started ok, but has no solution to it. Some post has no reply. I > have tried all sorts of thing, I have also libdvdcss, but nothing worked > (for all types of DVD). I have a feeling it is a faulty drive. Is there > a way to prove it is the drive that is faulty? I am quite new to Debian, > so any help will be appreciated. > > Larinia Try a different linux distribution, or, even, windows. If nothing can play the dvd, it's probably a reasonable assumption to blame the drive. Alternatively, drives are REALLY cheap now, so you could pick up a nice new DVD drive and see ;) David pgp9r6gjnfSi5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xine error
On Sunday 18 September 2005 17:36, Curt Howland wrote: > Good sir, please, don't misunderstand me. I agree with you > completely, in theory. Sorry. It is easy to get the wrong idea in a written discussion. Anders -- - Debian/Unstable - KDE 3.4.2 - KMail 1.8.2 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
Good sir, please, don't misunderstand me. I agree with you completely, in theory. However, just like people choosing to publish their works under the GPL, the hardware manufacturer may specify any limitations they wish. Opening the case, dropping it in water, for that matter dropping it at all, will all void the hardware warentee. They may still fix it, but they will charge me for their labors. I do not like it any more than you do, but then I didn't know about it until after it was purchased. Curt- On Sunday 18 September 2005 10:05 it was so written: > On Sunday 18 September 2005 15:26, Curt Howland wrote: > > > Hmm, vendors often write things that are not compliant > > > with local law (they try anyway), e.g. the above statement > > > would probably be meaningless in Germany. > > > > Quite likely. Governments do tend to interfere with freedom > > of contract. > > Ohhh riiight!! It's all good in the name of freedom of > contract. Get the f. out of here with that .. > > I buy a piece of hardware, it's my universal right to do > whatever the hell I want with it. > > Anders > > > -- > - Debian/Unstable - KDE 3.4.2 - KMail 1.8.2 - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb storage problems
Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 12.32 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > > I continue to be stumped by USB storage devices in KDE... > > That's how I currently do this (Debian Etch with X and KDE from Sid): > $ cat /proc/partitions > [...] >8 0 256000 sda >8 1 255984 sda1 Thank you for this tip, Hendrik. I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 8 01048575 sda(this cannot be correct) 3 06297480 hda 3 1 305203 hda1 3 25992245 hda2 Only *10 minutes later* did sda1 show up: major minor #blocks name 8 0 31360 sda 8 1 31280 sda1 3 06297480 hda 3 1 305203 hda1 3 25992245 hda2 > $ pmount /dev/sda1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pmount -d /dev/sda1 resolved /dev/sda1 to device /dev/sda1 mount point to be used: /media/sda1 no iocharset given, current locale encoding is ISO-8859-15 Cleaning lock directory /var/lock/pmount/_dev_sda1 device_whitelist: checking /etc/pmount.allow... device_whitlisted(): nothing matched, returning 0 find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1 Fehler: konnte sysfs-Verzeichnis nicht erfragen There is absolutely nothing in my folder /sys. ... > Instead, you can also look at the dmesg output. hub.c: new USB device 00:02.2-1, assigned address 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0xd7d/0x240) is not claimed by any active driver. Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Vendor: Model: USB Card Reader Rev: 1.05 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 sda : READ CAPACITY failed. sda : status = 1, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 08 Current sd00:00: sense key Not Ready Additional sense indicates Medium not present sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB. sda: I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed. I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB Mass Storage device found at 2 USB Mass Storage support registered. SCSI device sda: 62720 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB) sda: Write Protect is off sda: sda1 > Or you become root and look at: > sg_scan -i /dev/sg0: scsi0 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em] LG CD-ROM CRD-8322B 1.07 [rmb=1 cmdq=0 pqual=0 pdev=0x5] /dev/sg1: scsi1 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em] USB Card Reader 1.05 [rmb=1 cmdq=0 pqual=0 pdev=0x0] The card itself simply does not show up. > sg_map -sd /dev/sg0 /dev/sg1 /dev/sda ditto. ... Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 11.11 schrieb David Pastern: ... > > method to mount my camera, SD-cards, and external USB drive... ... > My advice is to be running (as root): > > tail -n 50 /var/log/messages > > and then plug the usb device in. It should show, and show the > device ;-) Thanks, David. Could the uhci problems below be part of my problems? Sep 18 09:50:58 tbox pci.agent[543]: eepro100: already loaded Sep 18 09:50:58 tbox pci.agent[543]: e100: can't be loaded Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: missing kernel or user mode driver e100 Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: usb-uhci: blacklisted Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox kernel: uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1 Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: uhci: can't be loaded Sep 18 09:50:59 tbox pci.agent[543]: missing kernel or user mode driver uhci Sep 18 09:51:03 tbox usb.agent[632]: usbcore: already loaded The rest of the output is similar to the dmesg output at the beginning of this mail. Thanks also for the messages indicating that with the newest kernel my problems will be over. I live in hope! (I'm still using 2.4.20-xfs because I'm wary of replacing the kernel, having had problems with this in the past.) Theo Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
On Sunday 18 September 2005 15:26, Curt Howland wrote: > > Hmm, vendors often write things that are not compliant with > > local law (they try anyway), e.g. the above statement would > > probably be meaningless in Germany. > > Quite likely. Governments do tend to interfere with freedom of > contract. Ohhh riiight!! It's all good in the name of freedom of contract. Get the f. out of here with that .. I buy a piece of hardware, it's my universal right to do whatever the hell I want with it. Anders -- - Debian/Unstable - KDE 3.4.2 - KMail 1.8.2 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
On Sunday 18 September 2005 08:53, Hendrik Sattler was heard to say: > Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 14:11 schrieb Curt Howland: > > Worse, the warrantee specifies that if I install anything > > over the WinXP that the laptop came with, my hardware > > warrantee is void. > > Hmm, vendors often write things that are not compliant with > local law (they try anyway), e.g. the above statement would > probably be meaningless in Germany. Quite likely. Governments do tend to interfere with freedom of contract. It's been "in the shop" three times, the second time the DVD drive failed so badly that I couldn't get the Windows recovery disks to read. I thought they would notice it booted Linux, but sure enough it came back with WinXP. Backups are a GoodThing(tm), one never knows when they might be needed. Curt- -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history pgpPovysg1GG3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xine error
Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 14:11 schrieb Curt Howland: > Worse, the warrantee specifies that if I install anything over > the WinXP that the laptop came with, my hardware warrantee is > void. Hmm, vendors often write things that are not compliant with local law (they try anyway), e.g. the above statement would probably be meaningless in Germany. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb storage problems
I had a similar question maybe ten days ago and it is now working flawlessly. I have: Linux 2.6.12 udev pmount hal KDE 3.4.2 All I had to do was configure the desktop and select Behavior then the Device icons tab and enable Show device icons. From there I selected the ones I want to show. My CDs and DVDs appear as well as my USB stick and camera (USB mass storage). None of them mount automatically which is what I prefer as it is easy enough to right click the icon and mount the device. This functionality rocks! - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 08:11 -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > On Sunday 18 September 2005 07:39, larinia was heard to say: > > Thanks Dave, I'll give them a try and see how it goes, > > otherwise I will re-install wondows (last resort). The next > > computer I buy won't be a laptop for sure! > > > > Larinia > > Mine, also, is a laptop. Unless I can get the problem to reoccur > in Windows, the place I bought it won't service it. That's why I > wasn't sure if it was driver based or not, since I did put > Windows on it, and the "failing" DVDs were able to be read. > > Worse, the warrantee specifies that if I install anything over > the WinXP that the laptop came with, my hardware warrantee is > void. This is why I won't buy a laptop. Proprietary crap, stupid licenses, poor support from hardware manufacturers via their very pro Microsoft warranties. The bastards aren't getting any of my money! > The service people had it for a month, because of a DVD drive > failure, I only got it back a week ago. But the drive they put > in isn't exactly the same as the one that was in it before. The > lens configuration is different. But, like I said, if I cannot > get it to fail in Windows then I just have to put up and shut > up. > > The Microsoft OEM stranglehold must be broken! Unfortunately, no anti competition board (at least in Australia) is interested in touching it. Microsoft bribes, oops I mean pays the politicians to ensure of this. I've had the ACCC telling me that Microsoft isn't a monopoly! I, of course, begged to differ, since Norway, Israel, Japan, The European union and of course, the United States of America have all felt that Microsoft was indeed a monopoly. The simplest way to solve this problem is not to buy their products, to write them and state why you did not buy their product(s), and to tell friends and family. Lobbying your local MP incessantly does help also (to an extent). If only governments would actually stamp down on this sort of behaviour, the PC market would open up in an instant, and for the better. Microsoft would like you to think that the market is competitive, but, if it's competitive, I'm Santa Claus. Stop OEM manufacturers from having OEM agreements such as the infamous Microsoft OEM agreement, ensure that the customer can buy a laptop (or any other hardware) without any software bundle, without any price penalty, if they choose to do so. Make illegal any warranties that penalise you for changing operating systems (to one of your choice). For far too long, the computer industry has went without ANY regulation. > Curt- > > Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
On Sunday 18 September 2005 07:39, larinia was heard to say: > Thanks Dave, I'll give them a try and see how it goes, > otherwise I will re-install wondows (last resort). The next > computer I buy won't be a laptop for sure! > > Larinia Mine, also, is a laptop. Unless I can get the problem to reoccur in Windows, the place I bought it won't service it. That's why I wasn't sure if it was driver based or not, since I did put Windows on it, and the "failing" DVDs were able to be read. Worse, the warrantee specifies that if I install anything over the WinXP that the laptop came with, my hardware warrantee is void. The service people had it for a month, because of a DVD drive failure, I only got it back a week ago. But the drive they put in isn't exactly the same as the one that was in it before. The lens configuration is different. But, like I said, if I cannot get it to fail in Windows then I just have to put up and shut up. The Microsoft OEM stranglehold must be broken! Curt- -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history pgpRpEhzAM6l7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xine error
Thanks Dave, I'll give them a try and see how it goes, otherwise I will re-install wondows (last resort). The next computer I buy won't be a laptop for sure! Larinia Is there a way to prove it is the drive that is faulty? There probably is, cos I use a desktop pc, and not a laptop (the scum of proprietary hardware imho and I avoid them like the proverbial plague for those reasons), I'd usually swap the drive over. That quickly tells me if I'm right. Unfortunately, with the nature of laptops, that's not so easily done. You could try a few things: 1. Update the kernel 2. Update the firmware for the dvd device (if at all possible, which I doubt with a laptop). Not easy to do anyways, since most firmware updaters are either dos or windows based. 3. Make sure that the DVD disks are ok (try them in a known working dvd rom drive etc). 4. If you have the ability, try an external dvd rom drive (preferably firewire), it'd be slow, but if it works, then it'd disprove a kernel issue I feel. 5. What does lspci show? Does it show seek errors for that drive? 6. Check that you're a member of the audio and video groups, check the permissions on the dvd drom device etc etc. Basic permissions stuff. 7. Does the disk play normal audio CDs and/or data CDs ok? For audio CDs i'd suggest using kscd - I feel that as long as the audio cable goes to the dvd rom drive, and you have the permissions correct, and the right device selected in kscd, if it fails to still play, it's a hardware issue. Is the machine still under warranty? If so, I'd return it for testing. Make the manufacturer earn their $$$. I am quite new to Debian, so any help will be appreciated. That's OK. I've been using Debian or Debian based distros now for 3, nearly 4 years, and I'm still learning every day. Larinia Best wishes, Dave
Re: usb storage problems
Am Sonntag, 18. September 2005 11:03 schrieb Theo Schmidt: > I continue to be stumped by USB storage devices in KDE. Only once with some > older version of Knoppix did a USB stick appear automatically on the > desktop when plugged in. I don't need this, but I do need at least to know > under which name the device can be mounted. Even without other SCSI > devices, the devices seem to vary from sda1 through sda5 to sdd1. I did > once in a fit of frenzy create 20 different lines in /etc/fstab in order to > find the right device, but it didn't really work. Years ago I could find > the right device in /proc somewhere, but this no longer seems possible. That's how I currently do this (Debian Etch with X and KDE from Sid): $ cat /proc/partitions [...] 8 0 256000 sda 8 1 255984 sda1 $ pmount /dev/sda1 That's it, it is now available as /media/sda1. No fstab entries, not root login, no udev and with linux-2.6.11. Instead, you can also look at the dmesg output. Or you become root and look at: sg_scan -i sg_map -sd However: linux-2.6 brings you some advantage: if you only have one memory stick to take care of, it is always the same device (for me: /dev/sda). All this didn't change in quite a while. Personally, I like a static /dev. HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 20:25 +1000, larinia wrote: > Well, I have done lots of Googling myself for the last few months. OK, that's great! > Most post started ok, but has no solution to it. Some post has no > reply. Yeah I noticed. But - several of the posts that I saw led to faulty hardware. A few suspected the kernel, but no proof. > I have tried all sorts of thing, I have also libdvdcss, but nothing > worked (for all types of DVD). libdvdcss won't have anything to do with this. It's not reading the disk at all. > I have a feeling it is a faulty drive. So do I. > Is there a way to prove it is the drive that is faulty? There probably is, cos I use a desktop pc, and not a laptop (the scum of proprietary hardware imho and I avoid them like the proverbial plague for those reasons), I'd usually swap the drive over. That quickly tells me if I'm right. Unfortunately, with the nature of laptops, that's not so easily done. You could try a few things: 1. Update the kernel 2. Update the firmware for the dvd device (if at all possible, which I doubt with a laptop). Not easy to do anyways, since most firmware updaters are either dos or windows based. 3. Make sure that the DVD disks are ok (try them in a known working dvd rom drive etc). 4. If you have the ability, try an external dvd rom drive (preferably firewire), it'd be slow, but if it works, then it'd disprove a kernel issue I feel. 5. What does lspci show? Does it show seek errors for that drive? 6. Check that you're a member of the audio and video groups, check the permissions on the dvd drom device etc etc. Basic permissions stuff. 7. Does the disk play normal audio CDs and/or data CDs ok? For audio CDs i'd suggest using kscd - I feel that as long as the audio cable goes to the dvd rom drive, and you have the permissions correct, and the right device selected in kscd, if it fails to still play, it's a hardware issue. Is the machine still under warranty? If so, I'd return it for testing. Make the manufacturer earn their $$$. > I am quite new to Debian, so any help will be appreciated. That's OK. I've been using Debian or Debian based distros now for 3, nearly 4 years, and I'm still learning every day. > Larinia > Best wishes, Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xine error
Well, I have done lots of Googling myself for the last few months. Most post started ok, but has no solution to it. Some post has no reply. I have tried all sorts of thing, I have also libdvdcss, but nothing worked (for all types of DVD). I have a feeling it is a faulty drive. Is there a way to prove it is the drive that is faulty? I am quite new to Debian, so any help will be appreciated. Larinia David Pastern wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 08:29 +1000, larinia wrote: Hello Everyone, Please help me. I have debian installed on my laptop, the unstable version. I have been trying to get xine working for a long time, but I never managed. My machine is voyage 64 3200+ A list from Evesham. The following is the output from dmesg: ATAPI device hdc: Error: Not ready -- (Sense key=0x02) Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00) The failed "Read Cd/Dvd Capacity" packet command was: "25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 " Does anyone know what is wrong with xine, or is it my machine. Thanks. Larinia Without wanting to appear rude, a bit of research is a good idea! I found a few links immediately courtesy of google that talk a bit about it. Firstly the google search link: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Incompatible +medium+installed+--+%28asc%3D0x30%2C+ascq%3D0x00%29&btnG=Google +Search&meta= and these are some of the more interesting hits: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64388 http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-50479.html https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-August/msg00170.html http://staff.washington.edu/hornung/linux/archive/html/msg01168.html http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=353749 A few questions, do other DVDs work in this drive? Do the DVDs in question work in a known working DVD drive? What is the output of lspci? You could try updating the firmware on the drive itself, but my money is on the bet that it's a piece of faulty hardware. Linux is far less tolerant of faulty hardware than Windows I might add (at least from my experience). I'd say that it's not a kde, or kdelib4 issue. Definitely not. It could be a kernel issue, but I honestly doubt it. An anecdote from my experience. I had an older Pioneer DVD-120s slot dvd rom drive. Worked fine for 3 or 4 months. Then odd things started happening. Couldn't play DVDs. Xine, mplayer, ogle, vlc all would hang. Checked permissions, rebuilt the device node, nothing helped. In the end, I was doing some beta testing for Libranet, and the beta DVD would fail to boot properly. Since I had a new LG dvd burner as well, I just booted from that, and the disk worked a charm. A note that audio CDs would not play via kscd, but would work via xmms. Audio cable etc, was fine. Swapped sound card, same issue. In the end, I noticed errors in /var/log/messages, saying seek drive error. That was that, I got a new LG dvd drive, replaced the crappy Pioneer drive and all worked well ever since. My conclusion: faulty drive. My gut instinct (and some research on this), tells me it's a faulty drive. Hope this helps, Dave
Re: usb storage problems
> I continue to be stumped by USB storage devices in KDE. Only once with some > older version of Knoppix did a USB stick appear automatically on the desktop > when plugged in. I don't need this, but I do need at least to know under > which name the device can be mounted. Even without other SCSI devices, the > devices seem to vary from sda1 through sda5 to sdd1. I did once in a fit of > frenzy create 20 different lines in /etc/fstab in order to find the right > device, but it didn't really work. Years ago I could find the right device > in /proc somewhere, but this no longer seems possible. > > People have recommended pmount, but all I get is: > "find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1 > Fehler: konnte sysfs-Verzeichnis nicht erfragen" > > People have recommended hal, but I am loathe to install this, because it > would > involve the deinstallation of about 20 packages on my system. > > People have recommended a 2.6 kernel, but my system with a 2.6 kernel has the > same problems as with the 2.4 kernel. > > Looking through the internet I see a great many questions of this nature, but > no simple answers. Also even worse, often when having found the right device > name, it is impossible to mount because the system claims that it has the > wrong file type or a damaged superblock even when this is definately not the > case. > > Very occasionally when trying these things, KDE and even the whole system > freeze up completely so that the machine must be rebooted by removing the > power. > > Surely it must be possible in this day and age to get where Macintosh was 10 > years ago with SCSI, even if it wasn't hot-pluggable then. Devices appeared > automatically on the desktop or could be easily mounted with some utility. I > don't even need hot-plugable, but I do need a simple method to mount my > camera, SD-cards, and external USB drive. Anybody got any ideas how to > proceed? I wanted to get all of this stuff working when I upgraded to the new KDE. I first of all installed udev, hal and pmount, but it still didn't work. Finally I spotted that udev needed a 2.6.12 kernel (I had 2.6.10 before), I upgraded to this and everything seems to be working fine. I can now plug in a memory stick or put in a new CD, the device icon appears on the desktop and clicking on the icon mounts the device :-) FYI: Pure Sid and the stock kernel. Cheers James Wells -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
usb storage problems
I continue to be stumped by USB storage devices in KDE. Only once with some older version of Knoppix did a USB stick appear automatically on the desktop when plugged in. I don't need this, but I do need at least to know under which name the device can be mounted. Even without other SCSI devices, the devices seem to vary from sda1 through sda5 to sdd1. I did once in a fit of frenzy create 20 different lines in /etc/fstab in order to find the right device, but it didn't really work. Years ago I could find the right device in /proc somewhere, but this no longer seems possible. People have recommended pmount, but all I get is: "find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1 Fehler: konnte sysfs-Verzeichnis nicht erfragen" People have recommended hal, but I am loathe to install this, because it would involve the deinstallation of about 20 packages on my system. People have recommended a 2.6 kernel, but my system with a 2.6 kernel has the same problems as with the 2.4 kernel. Looking through the internet I see a great many questions of this nature, but no simple answers. Also even worse, often when having found the right device name, it is impossible to mount because the system claims that it has the wrong file type or a damaged superblock even when this is definately not the case. Very occasionally when trying these things, KDE and even the whole system freeze up completely so that the machine must be rebooted by removing the power. Surely it must be possible in this day and age to get where Macintosh was 10 years ago with SCSI, even if it wasn't hot-pluggable then. Devices appeared automatically on the desktop or could be easily mounted with some utility. I don't even need hot-plugable, but I do need a simple method to mount my camera, SD-cards, and external USB drive. Anybody got any ideas how to proceed? Theo Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
usb storage problems
I continue to be stumped by USB storage devices in KDE. Only once with some older version of Knoppix did a USB stick appear automatically on the desktop when plugged in. I don't need this, but I do need at least to know under which name the device can be mounted. Even without other SCSI devices, the devices seem to vary from sda1 through sda5 to sdd1. I did once in a fit of frenzy create 20 different lines in /etc/fstab in order to find the right device, but it didn't really work. Years ago I could find the right device in /proc somewhere, but this no longer seems possible. People have recommended pmount, but all I get is: "find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1 Fehler: konnte sysfs-Verzeichnis nicht erfragen" People have recommended hal, but I am loathe to install this, because it would involve the deinstallation of about 20 packages on my system. People have recommended a 2.6 kernel, but my system with a 2.6 kernel has the same problems as with the 2.4 kernel. Looking through the internet I see a great many questions of this nature, but no simple answers. Also even worse, often when having found the right device name, it is impossible to mount because the system claims that it has the wrong file type or a damaged superblock even when this is definately not the case. Very occasionally when trying these things, KDE and even the whole system freeze up completely so that the machine must be rebooted by removing the power. Surely it must be possible in this day and age to get where Macintosh was 10 years ago with SCSI, even if it wasn't hot-pluggable then. Devices appeared automatically on the desktop or could be easily mounted with some utility. I don't even need hot-plugable, but I do need a simple method to mount my camera, SD-cards, and external USB drive. Anybody got any ideas how to proceed? Theo Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
