Re: extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian
On Sunday 08 January 2006 18:14, Koos Vriezen wrote: SVN commit 495689 by vriezen: A working shlib would be nice indeed .. What's breaks when you use Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} ? M +1 -1 control --- trunk/extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian/control #495688:495689 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ Package: kmplayer-lib Architecture: any Section: sound -Depends: kdelibs4 (= 4:3.1.0-1) | kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.0-1), libxine1 | libxine1c2, libgstreamer0.8-0, libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 +Depends: kdelibs4 (= 4:3.1.0-1) | kdelibs4c2a (= 4:3.4.0-1), libxine1 | libxine1c2, libgstreamer0.8-0, libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 That's cheating ;) The same deb can't work in a environment compiled with g++ g++ 3.4 _and_ and an environment compiled with g++ 4.0. ^^ and at least this should then be libxine1c2a too. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian
On Sunday 08 January 2006 20:45, Koos Vriezen wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:56:39PM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 18:14, Koos Vriezen wrote: SVN commit 495689 by vriezen: A working shlib would be nice indeed .. What's breaks when you use Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} ? I tried that some time ago, and the dependency was empty. Strangly enough now trying it again, I do get the dependency: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (= 4:3.4.3-1), libaudio2, libc6 (= 2.3.5-1), libfontconfig1 (= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (= 1:4.0.2), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.8.0), libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 (= 0.8.0), libgstreamer0.8-0 (= 0.8.11), libice6, libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel), libpopt0 (= 1.7), libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.5), libsm6, libstdc++6 (= 4.0.2-4), libx11-6, libxcursor1 ( 1.1.2), libxext6, libxft2 ( 2.1.1), libxi6, libxine1 (= 1.0.1), libxinerama1, libxml2 (= 2.6.21), libxrandr2, libxrender1 (= 1:0.9.0.2), libxt6, zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1) Hi Koos, Great. I guess I made a mistake back then. Thanks for reminding, Koos Btw. is there anyone that would like to adopt kmplayer for debian inclusion. At least for the plugin there is no real alternative. It would require a small patch to set xine as default backend (instead of mplayer), and maybe a 'powered by debian' intro animation if the application would go in as well. I checked and it looks like noone is working on a debian inclusion. For ubuntu Tonio_ started polishing it for inclusion but ran out of time: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=287 When I asked him for his plan, jpatrick offered to take over. I'll keep an eye on it. When kubuntu is pleased with the packaging, I can ask some of the kubuntu devels that are debian developers too if they are interested to upload it to debian. If not I contact you again. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#346310: kmail: Open file as new message for sending, including headers
[...] It would be nice to be able to use KMail with reportbug, but KMail doesn't support opening a file as an entire message for sending. It has --msg and --body, but neither of those reads the headers from the file and sets them accordingly (e.g. the from, to, and subject headers). It would be really nice if KMail has an option for it. You are not the first one ;) Bug/wish is reported upstream. Please vote for http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89882 Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase
On Thursday 22 December 2005 13:49, Script Kiddy wrote: SVN commit 490585 by scripty: Fix FSF address (mainly old address and s/Cambridge/Boston/ ) (goutte) M +2 -2 debian/local/kdm.options.5 Hi, Is there a reason why branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/debian is still in KDE svn? Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#343214: Manpages for lisa and reslisa
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 18:49, François Wendling wrote: Package: lisa Version: 3.3.2-5 Tags: patch Manpages for lisa and reslisa were missing. I join them. Hi François, great! You're using the GFDL for the manpages. This license is considered non-free by The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG). http://www.de.debian.org/social_contract.en.html#guidelines It would be really great if you change the license to, e.g. GPL. Otherwise our manpages have to notadded/removed or go into the non-free section before the next debian release. Mhmm you used resLISa and LISa. Way upstream likes it or typo? Thx for your contribution, Achim Regards François. -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#343214: Manpages for lisa and reslisa
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 20:39, François Wendling wrote: Achim Bohnet wrote: You're using the GFDL for the manpages. This license is considered non-free by The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG). http://www.de.debian.org/social_contract.en.html#guidelines It would be really great if you change the license to, e.g. GPL. Otherwise our manpages have to notadded/removed or go into the non-free section before the next debian release. Modified versions are joined...lisa is licensed under the terms of the GPL, the associated manpages should be too :) Thx a lot. Mhmm you used resLISa and LISa. Way upstream likes it or typo? Upstream, resLISa and LISa are used, but reslisa and lisa too. Some lines from the README.gz, written by the author : LISa is intended to provide a kind of network neighbourhood but only [...] lisa and reslisa are distributed under the GNU General Public License. IMHO, lisa stands for the program, and LISa for the concept. Fine. Thx for the info. Achim François. -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#238770: In /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers no -dpi Option is set
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 17:55, Erik Moeller wrote: I experienced the same problem again after updating to KDE 3.4 on testing. It turned out that a change in the syntax of the kdmrc file was the cause: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc now directly specifies the X server parameters, rather than using the Xservers file to look them up. The default there is, again, to use no dpi setting (which I find problematic since figuring out the correct DisplaySize setting in xorg.conf is much harder for a newbie). Changing ServerArgsLocal to Well, do you think figuring out the correct dpi value for ServerArgsLocal is easier for a newbie than adding DisplaySize 284 213 # width and height in mm of the display to the Monitor section? And anyone asking what I mean with 'correct dpi' value has already proven that I'm right ;) Note: Both DisplaySize or -dpi settings is only necessary if the gfx driver and monitor can't exchange the DisplaySize information automaticly. [Works here already in correctly in 2/3 of the used hardware . Hopefully more with next xorg release. ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100 That's is almost always wrong ;) Are you sure that your monitor has 100 dpi? If your fonts are too small _and_ dpi is right. the right thing is to use bigger fonts that to fake dpi value. Remember dpi == dot per inch and what an inch and a dot is, is well defined. I really prefer that A4 or letter printout have exactly the same size as the paper. solved the problem for me. It's wrong. DisplaySize is the right thing (tm). I vote for wontfix Achim HTH, Erik -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backports of latest kde to stable 3.1?
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 21:12, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: Patrick Dreker wrote: I will contact Tapio... As I need the backports for internal purposes anyways, I could very well coordinate my work with ekhis.org to get clean backports with some support even... Is there a mailing list which this contact/work will go onto? I'd like to sign up to the list, as I'm very interested in all things related to kde on stable. At least all pkg upload are send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] see http://lists.kde.org/?l=kalyxo-develr=1b=200509w=2 Achim -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: missing kio_digikamio.so (bugreport?)
On Monday 12 September 2005 11:54, Reto Spoerri wrote: Hi, Trying to use digikam i've found out that the kio_digikamio.so seems to be missing in 3.4.2 (unstable) (it's giving me an error when i try to move a directory in left sided tree structure). If you have any hints please cc me as im not on this list. Hi Reto, install libdigikam-dev and the error goes away (there is already a bug report #326786) the kio_*.la files are in libdigikam-dev instead of libdigikam0. I didn't like the splitout of lib and -dev pkgs (see #324592) and the next sid upload will undo the split. Achim Reto -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#327191: kdm resets after login because of problem in ~/*profile
On Friday 09 September 2005 14:42, Jean de Largentaye wrote: The exact line which seems to have posed problem was export DISPLAY=john:0.0 use ssh -X and remove the DISPLAY setting. Achim in .bash_profile. I'm a bit stumped as to why that is troublesome, though I guess it must conflict with the env var set by X (which is just 0:0). I think I added that line when I had XDMCP enabled and was doing stuff on another display-less machine. That way when I'd login through SSH, I could immediately launch a program that would display on my local machine. I guess I'll have to do a little more work for the script to distinguish between being launched by X or during a login. It would be useful to warn the user of this 'new' behaviour, maybe in /usr/share/doc/NEWS.Debian. This seems quite reasonable. For the record, are you requesting that the new behaviour be reverted, or simply that users be given better notice to allow them to adapt with less hassle and frustration? Oh no, I wouldn't dare request a behaviour change. After all, I expect that being The Great Respected Maintainer, you know what you're doing ;). No, just giving users better notice should be enough. For example, a nice blatant warning during the pre-configure phase, as well as something in /usr/share/doc/kdm other than the changelog (through which I went, and must've missed that part, or dismissed as irrelevant) John -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: extragear/multimedia/kmplayer
On Saturday 06 August 2005 14:05, Koos Vriezen wrote: SVN commit 443468 by vriezen: Update for 0.9.0b Don't install application/x-mplayer2.desktop with debian, conflicts with kaffeine 0.6 If someone does not have kaffeine installed, there's no x-mplayer2.desktop file? Isn't it better to move this file to mplayer or kdelibs and remove from kaffeine too? If this goes in kdelibs before the kdelibs C++ trans kaffeine and kmplayer can silently rely on it's availabilty without require a given version ;) [...] --- trunk/extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian/changelog #443467:443468 @@ -1,3 +1,9 @@ +kmplayer (0.9.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low + + * 0.9.0b release a note about the x-mplayer2.desktop change can't hurt + + -- Koos Vriezen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:08:47 +0200 + kmplayer (0.9.0.1-1) unstable; urgency=low * 0.9.0a release --- trunk/extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian/kmplayer-lib.install #443467:443468 @@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ debian/tmp/usr/share/apps/kmplayer/bookmarks.xml debian/tmp/usr/share/apps/kmplayer/noise.gif debian/tmp/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-kmplayer.desktop -debian/tmp/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-mplayer2.desktop debian/tmp/usr/share/mimelnk/video/x-ms-wmp.desktop Another x-ms-wmp.desktop: another candidate? Maybe it's a bloody stupid idea (low gain/work ration): add a check to cdbs kde.mk (or lintian if mimelnk are used/ planed by freedesktop) to check for mimelnk files and complain/warn if there is one. ignoring x-my-appname.desktop by default). Collecting them in it's own pkg, with a small footprint. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#320212: /usr/bin/kfontview: /usr/lib/libkfontinst.so.0: undefined symbol: FTC_SBit_Cache_New
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 18:49, Tom Epperly wrote: Package: kcontrol Version: 4:3.3.2-1 Severity: normal File: /usr/bin/kfontview Short story for unstable users: unstable is currently borked due to the C++ transition. Wait until kde 3.4.? enters sid and the error will go way. Longer story for sarge (and curious sid) users: When I try to run kfontview, it fails to start up. [EMAIL PROTECTED]kfontview /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans.ttf QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used kbuildsycoca running... I get those too if I start kfontview in a slogin [EMAIL PROTECTED] shell, not when started in a KDE session (via KDM). I.e, the msg come from the KDE daemons that are started. Nothing to worry about. kfontview: WARNING: KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file kfontviewui.rc This file is wasn't available/was forgotten in KDE 3.3 upstream. It was added in KDE 3.4: $ svn ls --recursive svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.3/kdebase/kcontrol/kfontinst | fgrep .rc viewpart/kfontviewpart.rc $ svn ls --recursive svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.4/kdebase/kcontrol/kfontinst | fgrep .rc viewpart/kfontviewpart.rc viewpart/kfontviewui.rc svn log svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.4/kdebase/kcontrol/kfontinst/viewpart/kfontviewui.rc ... r370422 | dfaure | 2004-12-13 20:41:56 +0100 (Mon, 13 Dec 2004) | 4 lines Fixed runtime warning kfontview: WARNING: KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file kfontviewui.rc It's quite unusual to have no .rc file, so I'd rather not hide the warning. To fix it: svn cat svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.4/kdebase/kcontrol/kfontinst/viewpart/kfontviewui.rc kfontviewui.rc and copy this file as root to /usr/share/apps/kfontinst/ kfontview: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkfontinst.so.0: undefined symbol: FTC_SBit_Cache_New [EMAIL PROTECTED]Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy that's a temporary sid/unstable problem. Does not happen with sarge. which kfontview /usr/bin/kfontview [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 29019, errno = 0 Happen only for slogin -X [EMAIL PROTECTED], not for KDE session (maybe at logout) nothing to worry about IMHO. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#315533: kdebase-kio-plugins: missing audiocd.docbook
On Thursday 23 June 2005 11:52, Andrew Schulman wrote: Package: kdebase-kio-plugins Version: 4:3.4.1-1 Severity: normal Tags: experimental The Info Center help page for audiocd:/ is missing. I see that usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kioslave/audiocd.docbook isn't present in this package, as it was in 3.3.4. Thanks, Andrew. Hi Andrew, the audio cd lib _and_ doc are in kdemultimedia-kio-plugins: $ dlocate -L kdemultimedia-kio-plugins | grep kio_audiocd /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio_audiocd /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio_audiocd/audiocd.docbook /usr/lib/kde3/kio_audiocd.la /usr/lib/kde3/kio_audiocd.so Nevertheless something is wrong: 1) Assumed that audiocd is expeted to be a standalone docu now, the installed files needed are kio_audiocd/index.docbook kio_audiocd/index.cache.bz2 (maybe even strip op kio_ prefix so help:/audiocd works) See http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-docm=111933784315601w=2 2) Assumed audiocd should be merged into the other ioslave one needs kioslave/audiocd.docbook but here we have the problem that the audiocd.docbook file is not in index.cache.bz because this file is from kdebase-kio-plugins. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#306144: kitchensync: Kitchensync headers missing
On Sunday 24 April 2005 15:49, Thomas Claveirole wrote: Package: kitchensync Version: 4:3.3.2-3 kdebluetooth sync stuff needs features from kde 3.4. In KDE 3.4 the headers are in kdepim-dev. You can try the deb from http://fred.hexbox.de/debian/. For kdebluetooth problems contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.4: packages that require libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-21)
On Friday 22 April 2005 13:16, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Is that intentional? This would exclude Debian Sarge users from testing KDE 3.4. I can update to newer libc but would loose X related development packages. kde 3.4 won't be shipped with sarge. kde 3.3.2 will. if you want to use kde 3.4 atm, you have to use unstable, or wait until sarge is out, and the kde 3.4 migration into etch. Or if libc is the only dependency problem (re)build it yourself Martin. It's not complicated. Achim -- O Pierre Habouzit O OOOhttp://www.madism.org -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New font defaults for new users - feedback wanted!
On Friday 08 April 2005 17:22, Bastian Venthur wrote: Pierre Habouzit wrote: afaik, when using kdm, dpi is guessed by X. my dpi was read on my both screens (the physical ones) and resulted in x-dpi and y-dpi (I mean the horiz and vertical dpi weren't the same). maybe then if fallbacks to 75dpi if no information is found on the hardware ... Personnaly I *manually* force the dpi in kdmrc, and I run startx with -- -dpi 75 Uh, why? Thats exactly the reason why i thought, that kde is optimized for 75dpi, because on it looks best on my 14''laptop-display as well as on my 19'' deskop-display with 75dpi. Some times back kdm Xservers file forced 100 dpi. AFAIR never 75 dpi. All this looks best cheating with dpi was a somehow usefuls hack with CRT monitors and in limited available sizes of bitmap fonts. With scalable fonts and TFTs dpi tweaking is stupid (IMO or course). Calculating the dpi for both displays would give me some values about 92-96dpi but I think 75dpi looks kind of better. No. Wrong approach. Choose another font size (in pt). Personaly I find dpi as it pretty useless for monitor-description, since we have already all data needed: 1280x1024 (19'') for example. But i admint, that i may have not fully understood this hole graphics-thingy. dpi much more accurate that the 1'' steps used in monitor descriptions (and only there ;) Ever seen a 14.31'' monitor? I'm looking right now at one ;) Further dpi in x and dpi in y are often not identical and then the dimension of the diagonal is to less information. I've 14'' TFT with 75 dpi, 98 dpi, 125 dpi and a 15'' with 133 dpi. On all of them I use 10pt font settings and on all monitors the font have identical size. Windows (almost) identical size. Restored or copied setting look almost identical. Great. rant If I would force 75 dpi, without changing font size. The fonts would be on the 133 dpi almost half the size as on the old TFT with 75 dpi. Same for windows sizes. PDL documentation tell you A4 but it looks like A5. Argl! Recalibration size with gimp for every monitor, what fun. /rant BTW as far as i remember XP has only two settings for dpi 96(default) and some-other-but-not-75 (don't remember the exact value). style=flame yeah, brain dead windows has only std 2 font sizes. And brain dead MS programmer hard code pixel size of buttons so that only one font works well. That's worser than the unix situation year ago. And MS solution? scale up everything on hires monitor. Lose all the sharpness one can expect from a hires monitor. HAA brilliant! /style I don't know how startx work anyway. Me too ;) I wish someone at kde.org could implement some inside-kde-solution for setting the dpi, so we finaly have a common basis for things like setting the default fontsize. KDE has the solution some years already. They specify fonts size in pt (72pt == 1 inch) not pixels. Then there no need at all to even know about dpi as long as the Xserver gets the right value from the hardware. In the old days monitor had ~ 75 dpi. So 1 px ~ 1 pt = 1 dot. People are used to font size of 10. They always think this are pixels but are really used to 10 pt fonts. Achim Nice Weekend Bastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New font defaults for new users - feedback wanted!
On Friday 08 April 2005 22:28, Pierre Habouzit wrote: With scalable fonts and TFTs dpi tweaking is stupid (IMO or course). the point is I use bitmap fonts for monospace fonts in my terminals, and I can assure you the dpi is quite important then ;) give me a nice looking monospaced font ... and I'll see. but it does not Heh, use custom font set to to a TTF like, e.g., 'Courier New' and be done ;) [AFAIR SuSE also has a usable TTF font in konsole.] E.g. on IRC I suggested: cat /etc/kde3/konsolerc EOT [Desktop Entry] defaultfont=Monospace,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 font=8 EOT If you don't like this font in konsole you will not like it in kate either. So using a pixel font for konsole is no general solution. I'll try my SuSE live CDROM next Monday to find out what they use. It wasn't the nonfree M$ courier new. exists (antialiasing is a pain for monospace fonts in my vim IMHO) konsole and antialiasing isn't a goot idea I fully agree. Achim -- O Pierre Habouzit O OOOhttp://www.madism.org -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wrong locale in kpackage kde 3.3.2
On Friday 11 February 2005 15:17, Mauro Darida wrote: On Thursday 10 February 2005 19:04, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 20:51, Mauro Darida wrote: I have noticed that every time I install a package from kpackage it gives the following warnings: perl:warning:Setting locale failed. perl:warning:Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE=(unset) LC_ALL=en_US LANG=(unset) are supported and installed on your system perl:warning:Falling back to the standard locale (C). This is what I have in my system locale settings: # cat /etc/profile # /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1)) # and Bourne compatible shells (bash(1), ksh(1), ash(1), ...). [...] # # Imposto la localizzazione [EMAIL PROTECTED] export LANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] export LC_CTYPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] export LC_ALL AFAIK /etc/profile is not read when you log in through KDM. The proper place to set default LANG and LANGUAGE is /etc/environment. If you want per user settings, I think ~/.kde/env/some script is the proper place. Ok, I modified /etc/environment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and removed LC_ALL from /etc/profile. This is the new kpackage output: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = en_US, LANG = [EMAIL PROTECTED] are supported and installed on your system. Try: o first reboot ;) o grep in your home .* and in /etc/ where the bogus LC_ALL is set. (then find and pester the orignator with a bug report ;) Workarounds: o Try to start kdm/gdm/startx from a console window that has a korrect LC* and LANG settings. (Check with locale command) o start kpackage is a window that has correct LC* and LANG settings (Check with locale command) Achim [...] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#283339: Forward upstream, please?
On Monday 13 December 2004 21:24, Riku Voipio wrote: Achim, can you forward this issue upstream? After reading this [...] Hi Riku, as Renchi mentioned on digikam-devel, the bug is already reported upstream: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93359 Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Text! in kde menu bar and duplicated items
On Friday 15 October 2004 08:22, Massimiliano Mirabello wrote: Achim Bohnet wrote: What do you get: $ locate ui_standards.rc [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc $ kde-config --path config [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/ach/.kde/share/config/ ^^^ Uh, that's my username, not 'test' user. Are you sure that the ouput of the command: kde-config --path config And what's the output of ls -l /usr/share/config dpkg -l *kdelibs\* kpdf kedit | grep ^[^up] Achim Maybe this is the problem. How it could be fixed? Massimiliano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Text! in kde menu bar and duplicated items
On Thursday 14 October 2004 14:07, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Thursday 14 October 2004 11:44, Achim Bohnet wrote: Let's find the really problem, before we declare it solved ;) Good idea :) [snip] $ kde-config --path config /home/ach/.kde/share/config/:/etc/kde3/ If I do that it looks like this: /home/kevin/.kde/share/config/:/usr/local/share/config/:/usr/local/kde/share/config/ I have KDEDIRS set to /usr:/usr/local:/usr/local/kde If I create a symlink ln -s /etc/kde3 /usr/share/config I get this from kde-config /home/kevin/.kde/share/config/:/etc/kde3/:/usr/local/share/config/:/usr/local/kde/share/config/ I used the same KDEDIRS value with the KDE3.1.packages for Woody without problems, but maybe they created that symlink? Quite some time back KDE used /etc/kderc to define search path (bad idea (tm) ;).If you like the symlink solution, keep it until you update to KDE 3.2.3 or KDE 3.3. AFAIK there Chris added /etc/kde3 to the C++ code. Achim Cheers, Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Text! in kde menu bar and duplicated items
On Thursday 14 October 2004 19:26, Michael Peddemors wrote: On October 14, 2004 02:44 am, Achim Bohnet wrote: On Thursday 14 October 2004 10:22, Massimiliano Mirabello wrote: Let's find the really problem, before we declare it solved ;) A message sent in debian-kde list (subject was:Missing Text Items... Tracked Down.) helped me. Problem is caused by a missing config file in all users home (this is not created with user and some programs don't look for deafault shared ui_standards.rc) Greetings, Massimiliano On Sunday 10 October 2004 00:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: Just an FYI for anyone upgrading from 3.1.4 to 3.2.xx series, the gotcha in the woody debs, is that the new packages in some cases (kedit,kpdf etc) only What version of do you use? dpkg -l *kdelibs\* kpdf kedit | grep ^[^up] ii kdelibs3.2.2-0.credat KDE core libraries metapackage ii kdelibs-bin3.2.2-0.credat KDE core binaries ii kdelibs-data 3.2.2-0.credat KDE core shared data ii kdelibs4 3.2.2-0.credat KDE core libraries ii kpdf 3.2.2-0.credat PDF viewer for KDE ii kedit 3.2.2-0.credat KDE text editor Nice. I switched to testing before I could they they woody debs. What your output of: $ strace kpdf 21 | grep ui_standards It was via strace that I found that it didn't hit the /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc file.. Yeah, but I wanted to check what dirs your 'non-working' kpdf is trying to check compared to an working app ;) Possibly new users will get this file created, I did not check yet. No. Ouch.. Then the packages need fixing.. The point is that ui_standard is a very important zentral file. KDE simply expects to find at least one in the search path. No plan B to fix the 'broken' environment. Without that file in the users home directories, the app specific text items will only show. This also causes duplicate items somehow, but was resolved also by adding this file. that's a workaround that hides the real problem ;) I know.. That's why I mentioned it shoudl go to the dvelopers lists. Really, the programs should be looking for the presence of a default standards file, if the users one is missing. Right. This normally is the standard kde behaviour. Okay, what's the output of echo $KDEHOME echo $KDEDIR echo $KDEDIRS kde-config --path config ls -l /etc/kderc /usr/share/config strace kpdf 21 | grep ui_standards Achim -- Catch the Magic of Linux... Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Text! in kde menu bar and duplicated items
On Friday 15 October 2004 09:52, Massimiliano Mirabello wrote: Massimiliano Mirabello wrote: Sorry, pickput errors. Achim Bohnet wrote: What do you get: $ locate ui_standards.rc [EMAIL PROTECTED] locate ui_standards.rc /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc $ kde-config --path config [EMAIL PROTECTED] kde-config --path config /home/test/.kde/share/config/ Mhmm, strange. I guess you use a KDE version that relies on the /etc/kderc. Output of cat /etc/kderc and for completeness: dpkg -l *kdelibs\* kpdf kedit | grep ^[^up] You can try to (move dir /usr/share/config away if it exists) ln -s /usr/share/config /etc/kde3 What's the output of kde-config --path config should include /etc/kde3 and ui_standards.rc should be found. Achim Maybe this is the problem. How it could be fixed? Massimiliano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Text! in kde menu bar and duplicated items
On Thursday 14 October 2004 10:22, Massimiliano Mirabello wrote: Matej Cepl wrote: Sorry, no idea what to do next. Matej Tank you all anyway. I SOLVED!!! Let's find the really problem, before we declare it solved ;) A message sent in debian-kde list (subject was:Missing Text Items... Tracked Down.) helped me. Problem is caused by a missing config file in all users home (this is not created with user and some programs don't look for deafault shared ui_standards.rc) Greetings, Massimiliano On Sunday 10 October 2004 00:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: Just an FYI for anyone upgrading from 3.1.4 to 3.2.xx series, the gotcha in the woody debs, is that the new packages in some cases (kedit,kpdf etc) only What version of do you use? dpkg -l *kdelibs\* kpdf kedit | grep ^[^up] What your output of: $ strace kpdf 21 | grep ui_standards access(/home/ach/.kde/share/config/ui/ui_standards.rc, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access(/etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc, R_OK) = 0 stat64(/etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=6130, ...}) = 0 open(/etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 10 compare with output of a app that finds the ui_standards file in /etc/. What version has this package? look for the ~/.kde/share/config/ui/ui_standards.rc only, and not the default /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc file. that's strange. What do you get: $ locate ui_standards.rc /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc $ kde-config --path config /home/ach/.kde/share/config/:/etc/kde3/ $ ls -l /usr/share/config ls: /usr/share/config: No such file or directory Possibly new users will get this file created, I did not check yet. No. Without that file in the users home directories, the app specific text items will only show. This also causes duplicate items somehow, but was resolved also by adding this file. that's a workaround that hides the real problem ;) Really, the programs should be looking for the presence of a default standards file, if the users one is missing. Right. This normally is the standard kde behaviour. I am not on the developers list, but someone who is might see if this is already mentioned there. I suggest any sarge KDE user with problems to include testing-proposed-updates in it's sources list: E.g., deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge-proposed-updates main contrib non-free don't forget to logout/login and restart kdm ;) Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating a Bookmark Button?
On Wednesday 13 October 2004 20:49, Doug Holland wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2004 9:56 am, Robert wrote: Sure, just right-click the bar on the left side of the bookmarks toolbar (or top of toolbar if you have it set up vertically) change text position and icon size. hth, Robert On October 9, 2004 11:04 am, Robert Tilley wrote: Instead of the list of long text names of bookmarks in the Bookmark Toolbar, is it possible to change them to small icons? One thing that would be nice to do in this case is customize each icon. Having a row of identical icons isn't exactly user friendly. :p that is implemented in the bookmark editor at least since 3.2.3 ;) Achim Doug -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#275955: kdm/kde shows everything in black/white usually black, and unusable - not an X problem
Hi, what happens when you open the remote login on a host with a xfree 4.3 server? Is it all black there too? (I'll assume you restarted kdm already, right?) As soon as autobuilder work for testing-proposed-updates most of the packages waiting in deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge-proposed-updates main contrib non-free will enter sarge. Maybe you can install them the kde debs from t-p-u and check if the kdm problem is already fixed? I tried to remote login window from a host running kde from s-p-u (kdm = 3.2.3-1.sarge.2) and the remote login window looks fine. But I only had radeon X-server to test the remote login window. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leaving Debian
On Monday 04 October 2004 09:37, Dominique Devriese wrote: Hi Dominique, it's a pity that you leave! Neverhteless I wish you all the best!! Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: security of KDE 3.2 in testing/sarge
On Thursday 16 September 2004 19:49, Ross Boylan wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 07:28:53PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Ross Boylan [Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:15:39 -0700]: I noticed some security advisories in August concerning KDE and Qt: DSA 539-1 DSA 542-1 Are these bugs present in the current testing 3.2? Are there any plans to fix them? DSA 542 (#267092), which is a QT vulnerability, is fixed in qt-x11-free 3:3.3.3-4, which will enter testing as soon as it gets built on arm (there is a hard-to-solve FTBFS, see #270202). That's interesting. So sarge will ship with qt 3.3 and kde 3.2? wrt DSA 539, there have been uploads of kdebase and kdelibs to testing-proposed-updates by Ben Burton (IIRC): kdelibs_4:3.2.3-3.sarge.2 kdebase_4:3.2.3-1.sarge.2 Great. I assume these will make it into the testing update stream eventually. Or should I try to grab them from somewhere directly? Where? deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge-proposed-updates main contrib non-free Achim sarge will ship with these, which address all the security issues. cheers, Thanks for the good news. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#271893: kwrite: KWrite doesn't show a status line.
Hi, wild guess: did you check that Settings - Show statusbar is activated? If not try to activate it. Fixed this 'bug' here ;) Achim
Bug#269265: patch for startkde
Hi, [sorry if this sounds harsh. Not my day, I'm in a hurry and need some sleep :( All my fault] why copy complete $KDEHOME, when only one file should be modified? There's also the need to take customized $KDEHOME, $KDEDIR and $KDEDIRS into consideration. A general substitution rule without taking the relevant group into account makes me also a bit nervous (but AFAIU this could be fixed with a more sed magic ;) For all KDE path stuff I would recommend to use kde-config. echo only perl can parse perl | sed s/perl/KDE/g ;). Some useful examples in your case: kde-config --localprefix kde-config --path config kde-config --expand --install xdgdata-apps kde-config --path apps ... Nevertheless I would suggest to first have a look at kdeconf_update. It's the kde way to port incompatible changes in config files. There are also kdereadconfig and kdewriteconfig, but if you use it for kickerrc manipulations make sure kicker depends on kdebase-bin. $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/{kde-config,kwriteconfig,kreadconfig,kconf_update,startkde} kdelibs-bin: /usr/bin/kde-config kdebase-bin: /usr/bin/kwriteconfig kdebase-bin: /usr/bin/kreadconfig kdelibs-bin: /usr/bin/kconf_update ksmserver: /usr/bin/startkde Keep up the good work! Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto load i18n?
On Sunday 12 September 2004 00:58, Anousak wrote: Yes, I have that as shown: $ head -n 2 /usr/share/locale/lo/entry.desktop [KCM Locale] Name=Lao Any other suggestions? This should show a translated kwrite KDE_LANG=lo kwrite If not check kde-config --path locale KDE_LANG=lo strace -o lo.log kwrite search lo.log to check were KDE tried to find *.mo files. Achim Sak -Original Message- From: Hendrik Sattler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 6:51 PM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Howto load i18n? Am Sonntag, 12. September 2004 00:45 schrieben Sie: Yes, I am the team coordinator for Lao KDE. I created those mo files and put them in /usr/share/locale/lo/LC_MESSAGES/*mo. The files are there, but how do you tell the system, KDE, that there is kde-i18n-lo? Any particular file(s) I need to create or tweak? Probably something like this: $ head -n 3 /usr/share/locale/de/entry.desktop [KCM Locale] Name=German Name[af]=Duits This file is part of the kde-i18n-de package HS -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.org -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto load i18n?
On Monday 13 September 2004 22:32, you wrote: Thanks, Achim. When I issued KDE_LANG=lo kwrite, it shows the Lao menu. However, is there a Well, at least now it's clear that the *.mo files are at the right location ;) Have you checked that for whatever reason you never define KDE_LANG? In this case kcontrolcenter setting would be ignored. way to set it through Control Panel (center) such as menu fonts and language? I tried to set it under Control Center, it didn't work. I mean I don't really want to load any other applications manually, ie. KDE_LANG=lo kde apps. I've almost no glue about this i18n business so my tips to debug the problem tips could be completely wrong. Has your ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals a section like [Locale] Country=lo Language=lo Did you try setting the language with kpersonalizer (aka desktop settings wizard)? Sorry, I've no idea why your Lao language setting via controlcenter does not work. Achim Thanks, Anousak -Original Message- From: Achim Bohnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:50 PM To: Debian KDE Subject: Re: Howto load i18n? On Sunday 12 September 2004 00:58, Anousak wrote: Yes, I have that as shown: $ head -n 2 /usr/share/locale/lo/entry.desktop [KCM Locale] Name=Lao Any other suggestions? This should show a translated kwrite KDE_LANG=lo kwrite If not check kde-config --path locale KDE_LANG=lo strace -o lo.log kwrite search lo.log to check were KDE tried to find *.mo files. Achim Sak [...] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto load i18n?
[please cc debian-kde. Maybe others have an idea] On Monday 13 September 2004 23:35, you wrote: Hi Achim, Thanks for a quick reply. Now I understand it further. I have no idea why kcontrol didn't take effect when I change it to Laos. As I looked under, per your suggestion, /.kde/share/config/kdeglobals, I found that all fonts had changed accordingly. But the following changed to: [Locale] Country=la Language= Was lo aka 'Loa' listed in kpersonalizer and in control center 'Country/Region Language'? I doubt that there's anything hardcoded in the control center module but that something is missing or miss configured. Check ~/.xsession-error is, there's something about 'lo'. So I added lo to the language as [Locale] Country=la Language=lo Issued this command 'KDE_LANG= kwrite', it works... Open many KDE apps like kmail, konsole, kate, and etc...the Only program didn't work now is conqueror. How do I report the problem where the language id didn't get assign from kcontrol. As I wrote I still think it's a config problem not a control center problem. Double check if your /usr/share/locale/lo has entries and contents like, e.g., $ l /usr/share/locale/de | grep -v cups_ total 52 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 2000-01-29 21:51 charset -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1458 2004-05-28 11:39 entry.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 357 1999-05-31 15:48 flag.png drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 32768 2004-09-13 23:00 LC_MESSAGES drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2004-07-28 14:47 LC_TIME If this does not help, ask on the general kde-i18n KDE lists. Achim Thanks so much for your good pointers. Anousak -Original Message- From: Achim Bohnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:18 PM To: Anousak Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Howto load i18n? On Monday 13 September 2004 22:32, you wrote: Thanks, Achim. When I issued KDE_LANG=lo kwrite, it shows the Lao menu. However, is there a Well, at least now it's clear that the *.mo files are at the right location ;) Have you checked that for whatever reason you never define KDE_LANG? In this case kcontrolcenter setting would be ignored. way to set it through Control Panel (center) such as menu fonts and language? I tried to set it under Control Center, it didn't work. I mean I don't really want to load any other applications manually, ie. KDE_LANG=lo kde apps. I've almost no glue about this i18n business so my tips to debug the problem tips could be completely wrong. Has your ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals a section like [Locale] Country=lo Language=lo Did you try setting the language with kpersonalizer (aka desktop settings wizard)? Sorry, I've no idea why your Lao language setting via controlcenter does not work. Achim Thanks, Anousak -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#270429: KDM doesn't display the login window anymore
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 12:59, Didier Verna wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:2.2.2-14.7 Distribution: unstable Hi, uh? kdm in unstable is 4:3.3.0-1. kdm 2.2.2 sounds like your using woody. Assuming your using unstable: Please make sure that you're pkgs are up to date 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' then send us the output of 'reportbug --template kdm'. Achim Hi ! As of my upgrade this morning (but it's been 14 days since my last X shutdown), KDM doesn't display the login window anymore: it only displays the background image. I can't enter my username and password. Thanks ! -- Didier Verna, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 44 08 01 85 94276 Le Kremlin-Bicêtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 53 14 59 22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#270429: KDM doesn't display the login window anymore
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 17:49, Didier Verna wrote: Achim Bohnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 07 September 2004 12:59, Didier Verna wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:2.2.2-14.7 Distribution: unstable Hi, uh? kdm in unstable is 4:3.3.0-1. kdm 2.2.2 sounds like your using woody. Hmmm. 2.2.2-14.7 was the contents of the Version line from apt-cache show. The version displayed by dpkg -l kdm is 3.3.0-1. Well, if you insist in using apt-cache then better use apt-cache policy kdm ;) Assuming your using unstable: Please make sure that you're pkgs are up to date 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' then send us the output of 'reportbug --template kdm'. I'd like to, but reportbug --template kdm outputs nothing ... :-/ Eh? I'm using sarge $ reportbug --template kdm | wc -l 52 $ reportbug --version reportbug 2.63 Okay, back to topic ;) Did you try /etc/init.d/kdm restart maybe some share libs stuff broke kdm. Does grep kdm /var/log/daemon.log show any strange messages? Did you try to search if others had already the problem? I know there were several problems related to kdm 3.3 but because I'm using sarge I did not follow closely. Try o reportbug kdm# and check the contents of related bug o search kde-debian mailing list archive Achim -- Didier Verna, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 44 08 01 85 94276 Le Kremlin-Bicêtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 53 14 59 22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'Best' way to develop debs of kdeextragear* apps inside KDE CVS
Hi, I'm working on debs for keg modules libexif, libkipi, kipi-plugins and digikam (as test app) to ease preparation by a DD or ITP them later myself when they will be released (maybe end of august??) Untils the upstream release: I find it quite inconvinient to create a tar ball and then follow the std procedure again and again (I've to copy every change back to kde cvs. Has anyone some tips, URLs, how to best 'prepare' a deb pkg inside kdeextragear cvs? What I would like to do is to cvs up make -f Makefile.cvs cd module while ! happy; do whats-necessary; debuild; dpkg -i ../xxx; test; test; test done Appended are my current work arounds. I hope someone found something better, to deal with the problem. Any hint tip appreciated! After the upstream release: Has anyone a script that makes it simpler to incorporate changes between the .orig.tar.gz and a (stable) branch into debian/patches/*? Ditto vice versa possible changes in src tree back into kde cvs tree? Achim P.S. here my kde cvs workaround For the kdebluetooth rules I use hacks like ifeq $(wildcard ./admin) # okay uppacked tar ball else # in keg*/module fi and for libkexif/kipi kipi-plugins,digican (with cdbs) stuff like: cat keg-x/module/configure #!/bin/bash cd .. ./configure $@ works for all but kipi-plugins where I also have to add ln -s . obj-i386-linux still to investigate why cdbs created where a obj-i386-linux build dir and not in the other cases. Achim -- - . To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: revising the first cd contents...
On Saturday 26 June 2004 15:41, Joey Hess wrote: Chris Cheney wrote: kde-core is enough to get KDE running, it includes arts/kdelibs/kdebase, but it doesn't include any of the other official KDE packages. It does include basic apps like kate, konqueror and konsole. The kde package installs the full official KDE release, but doesn't include 3rd party apps they are included in the kde-extras package instead. Would the KDE people be satisfied if the first debian CD installed a KDE that was only kde-core for the desktop task? Installs from more than Hey, KDE people wake up! ;) ;) kde-core contains all of the great base other KDE apps can and do use. But from the applicataion/user point of view there is the konqueror, kwrite(kate) and konsole That's all! kde-core has: no mailer (kmail), no cd player (kscd), no mixer (kmix), no addressbook (kaddressbook), no pdfviewer (kghostview). Well, that's my minimum list of apps. If others send their top 5 KDE apps we get a _small_ but useful new kde-destop-environment pkgs before sarge+1. Achim just the first CD would include all of KDE as they do now, and could even include the kde-extras stuff if you want me to add it. -- see shy jo -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdebluetooth (WAS: Re: Extragears in Debian)
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 10:23, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Wednesday 26 May 2004 02:07 schrieb Achim Bohnet: does it mean that you can click several times on the kbluetooth icon in the systrack and the 2nd or 3rd invocation of bluetooth:/ konqueror does not kill all other bluetooth;/ konq processes? Yes. Okay. If you get a crash, please add your config to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79262 ;) Sorry, I cannot confirm this bug with version 0.0.cvs20040519-1 Thanks for the info, Achim HS -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.org -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDM xauth (WAS: KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing)
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 21:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] P.S. On the off chance that this had something to do w/using gdm as my display manager, I edited /etc/X11/default-display-manager to be /usr/bin/kdm instead of /usr/bin/gdm. Didn't help, although it was -intensely- irritating that kdm then created /var/run/xauth and /var/run/xdmctl directories that then broke any attempt to launch applications from a shell, as opposed to from the KDE popup menus (e.g., emacs from an xterm gave authentication errors, as did xhost! so I couldn't -fix- whatever auth problems were going on...). By default, xservers started by kdm do not listen on tcp ports to xhost can't work and btw. xhost is devil ;) Fortunately, I found the /var/run stuff by looking for any recently-modified files, and just nuked those directories, and then I could start X apps again (under gdm, anyway; I didn't go back to kdm after that). This seems like a bug; if it's documented behavior, I'd love to know why. (I haven't checked carefully to see what those dirs think they're doing, and since deleting them fixed the behavior, I'm assuming they were responsible.) I doubt it ;) /var/run/xauth tells the _xserver_ what cookies to accept. ~/.Xauthority contains the same cookie after login and those are used by any X11 application to authorize to the xserver. /var/run/xdmctl is used by a kde to controls kdm. emacs and xterm know nothing about it and should therefore not be affected ;) I only remember once a damaged .Xauthority file in the last years running kdm on dozens of hosts. Logout, removing the ~user/.Xauthority, login fixed it. I guess that the start/stop logout/login fixed your problem too. If you feel like it. Stop gdm, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files in the home directory. Start kdm (and never have this problem again ;) Achim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kdebluetooth (WAS: Re: Extragears in Debian)
On Monday 24 May 2004 14:24, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Monday 24 May 2004 11:07 schrieb Tomàs Núñez: Is there any plan (or any thought) to put KDE extragears in Debian? We have most of this apps as separate packets (eg K3b, kwifimanager), but not all of them. So will debian have (shortly or in the future) a meta-packet named kdeextragear-1 (or 2 or 3)? At least for kdebluetooth, you can get a cvs-snapshot debian package from the projects site. I use it and it works pretty well. Hi Hendrik, does it mean that you can click several times on the kbluetooth icon in the systrack and the 2nd or 3rd invocation of bluetooth:/ konqueror does not kill all other bluetooth;/ konq processes? If you get a crash, please add your config to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79262 ;) Achim HS -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.org -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kdeextragear-3/kdebluetooth/debian
CVS commit by ach: build also with bluez-utils 2.6 from experimental. Alternative libsdp2-dev build-dep can be removed when bluez-utils 2.6 enters unstable in the next days. M +1 -1 control 1.5 --- kdeextragear-3/kdebluetooth/debian/control #1.4:1.5 @@ -3,5 +3,5 @@ Priority: optional Maintainer: Fred Schaettgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Build-Depends: debhelper ( 4.0.0), kdelibs4-dev (= 3.1.4), libbluetooth1-dev (= 2.5), +Build-Depends: debhelper ( 4.0.0), kdelibs4-dev (= 3.1.4), libbluetooth1-dev (= 2.6) | libsdp2-dev (= 1.5), xmms-dev (= 1.2.7) Standards-Version: 3.5.9
Re: Bug#247821: kdm exits after one run
On Friday 07 May 2004 13:22, Patrick Cornelißen wrote: Anton Ivanov wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.2.2-1 Severity: grave It will exit after the user logs out and has to be started again manually. This appeared after upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2 and is reproducible. Additional Info: I had this problem on our systems too. I solved it by removing the ldap checks in /etc/pam.d For authentication nsswitch was enough. Just the per Host acces restriction doesn't work this way :-( Try grep kdm /var/log/*.log kdm.before .. start kdm and login/logout and after kdm exits grep kdm /var/log/*.log kdm.after diff -u kdm.before kdm.after and send the diff output. Maybe there are additional hints what kdm did not like. Achim -- Bye, Patrick Cornelissen http://www.p-c-software.de ICQ:15885533 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#247196: kdm: clarify documentation
On Monday 03 May 2004 21:35, Ross Boylan wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.2.2-1 Severity: wishlist Hi Ross, 1) The current documentation makes several references to the xdm manpage, but users may not have xdm installed. For this and other reasons, a kdm manpage would be good (see also bug #193527). Agreed. Care to write (parts) of it? That would be great. 2) README.Debian does indicate it is for xdm, but it would be helpful to have a few lines explaining how this translates to kdm. Among the interpretations that occurred to me were * kdm uses the same files * kdm uses files of the same name but in /etc/kde3 (seems to be the case) * kdm uses its own files with different names (e.g., starting with a k) README.gz did allow me to infer it was the second, but that's a bit obscure. Perhaps README.Debian could be removed? I had a look at README.Debian and I agree to that the file is more confusing that helpful and should be removed. The only debian specific infos worth to note IMHO would be how and where debian select what x display manager gets used, because that really Debian specific. Hmm, because default entries in Xserver use -tcp nolisten one can also mention that 'Remote Session' in the kdm greeter menu will not work. 3) README.Debian includes confusions and redundancies. It refers to The above three files, but there only seemed to be one file (xdm-config) that had been mentioned (Xresources is a directory, though perhaps not outside of Debian. Even so, that's only two files). The phrase See the X(1) manual page for more information about X resources occurs twice, and the surrounding discussion is a bit repetitive in other ways. 4) README.gz has a discussion headed The command FiFos which doesn't s/command/Command/ in README.gz so source string matches target string (for tools with case sensitive search). quite indicate, from a user perspective, how to use them. I tried echo commands to the relevant files, and that seemed to work. While the cogniscenti may know that already, saying it explicitly would be useful. Care to provide better description? The discussion seems to imply that the low level interface doesn't matter because there are higher level tools: ksmserver and kdesktop. I tried starting the former and it messed up my session so badly I had to kill it. I assume the latter is always running; I looked on my menus but didn't see anything that seemed related to this. with reserve lines in Xservers your k-menu and kscreensaver should have 'Start new session' menu entries and buttons, respectively. Works fine here. I was specifically looking for how to start up a session that had been specified in Xservers with the reserve word. There seem to be other problems with that, which I reported in a previous bug. The point here is that while some of the functionality is accessible from the desktop (e.g., shutdown and restart), reserve and other functionality does not seem to be. No. 'Start new session' exposes reserve command on the gui. Achim -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.4.24advncdfs Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 Versions of packages kdm depends on: ii debconf 1.4.22 Debian configuration management sy ii kdebase-bin 4:3.2.2-1KDE Base (binaries) ii kdelibs44:3.2.2-2KDE core libraries ii libart-2.0-22.3.16-5 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libfam0c102 2.7.0-5 client library to control the FAM ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-6GCC support library ii libice6 4.3.0-7 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libpam-runtime 0.76-19 Runtime support for the PAM librar ii libpam0g0.76-19 Pluggable Authentication Modules l ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-5PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libsm6 4.3.0-7 X Window System Session Management ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-6The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libx11-64.3.0-7 X Window System protocol client li ii libxext64.3.0-7 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxrender1 0.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxtst64.3.0-7 X Window System event recording an ii xbase-clients 4.3.0-7 miscellaneous X clients ii xlibs 4.3.0-7 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-5compression
Bug#247193: kdm: reserve doesn't seem to work
On Monday 03 May 2004 21:18, Ross Boylan wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.2.2-1 Severity: normal I uncommented the first commented display line in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers: :1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp :1 vt8 and did invoke-rc.d kdm restart Despite this /var/run/xdmctl/ only showed xdmctl and xdmctl-:0. Reserve is working fine here (can start other parallel session with k-menu - 'Start new session'. Nevertheless I only have xdmctl and xdmctl-:0 too. When I start the first new session xdmctl-:1 is created. So xdmctl-:? are only created when really used and not when defined in Xservers. As I understand it, there should have been an xdmctl-:1 to which I could direct echo reserve to start up the second login screen. From my tests it looks like you miss understood something ;) I also tried restarting my X server on vt7. This didn't help. I have xfree86-common version 4.3.0-7, and am in a mostly testing system. I may not have understood how this is supposed to work, but this is what I got from the docs. I had a look at the /usr/share/doc/kdm/README.gz and echo reserve /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-$DISPLAY works fine here (as user log in on $DISPLAY). You should send the reserve command to the xdmctl file responsible for your display. I guess you get confused by the assumption that xdmctl file should exist for every reserve setting in Xservers. If you've some suggestion how to enhance kdms README please send a patch. Otherwise I suggest to close the bug report. Achim P.S. The word 'seem' in the subject is an indication that the report is better first send to debian-kde list to make sure it's a bug ;) -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.4.24advncdfs Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 Versions of packages kdm depends on: ii debconf 1.4.22 Debian configuration management sy ii kdebase-bin 4:3.2.2-1KDE Base (binaries) ii kdelibs44:3.2.2-2KDE core libraries ii libart-2.0-22.3.16-5 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libfam0c102 2.7.0-5 client library to control the FAM ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-6GCC support library ii libice6 4.3.0-7 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libpam-runtime 0.76-19 Runtime support for the PAM librar ii libpam0g0.76-19 Pluggable Authentication Modules l ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-5PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libsm6 4.3.0-7 X Window System Session Management ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-6The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libx11-64.3.0-7 X Window System protocol client li ii libxext64.3.0-7 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxrender1 0.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxtst64.3.0-7 X Window System event recording an ii xbase-clients 4.3.0-7 miscellaneous X clients ii xlibs 4.3.0-7 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-5compression library - runtime -- debconf information: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en_US.UTF-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory kdm/stop_running_server_with_children: false * kdm/default_servers_nolisten_tcp: * kdm/default_servers_100dpi: * kdm/kdmrc: shared/default-x-display-manager: kdm * kdm/default_nolisten_udp: kdm/daemon_name: /usr/bin/kdm kdm/oldconfig: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Arts, network transparency, nas.
rOn Monday 03 May 2004 11:22, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: I have a setup where I have a server hidden away close to my stereo set, and a laptop where I sit. The server has a soundblaster PCI 64 for output to the stereo. (Old I know but I am just using it as a testbed for my final system.) I was trying to figure out the best way to set it up so I can use the laptop to control the sound output from the server (which has ogg files). My first idea was to install nas on the server, set up some kind of network filesystem and mount it on my laptop, use kaffeine on my laptop for decoding, and visualisations and stuff, and then output back to the server via nas. But this stumpled when I found out xine didn't do nas output. Then I took a look at arts since I saw it claimed to have network transparency build in. But several hours of documentation scrounching couldn't explain to me how to set this up. I see two options potentially related to network transparency in KControl. First one is a simple tick-of setting, and the second is the output driver where nas output seems to be available. I can't understand how this can work without further setup. How does the nas driver know which server to use for output? How does arts for that matter? The nas output method does it as documented in NAS documentation ;) there a special environment variable (don't remember the name) that tells NAS which nas server to use. If not given it uses DISPLAY. Check NAS docs for further details. Last time I tried (guess around 3.0.*) nas output was okay for system sounds but not for songs. For network sound setup search the kde-multimedia list. You should find several threads about this topic. AFAIR if you send and 'URL' to remote artsd it interpreted on the artsd server side (at least for wav files) and not on the client side. That was a killer 'bug' for my xterminal environment. In your case, with the sounds on the server host, it may be that the right thing (tm) ;) AFAIR you need to configure .mcop* to point to the remote server running artsd (without KDE). I would replace arts on your laptop with a script that just copied the MCOP cookie from the server and stored it on your laptop. Then all arts/MCOP aware apps should automaticly use the artsd on the server. Details what to do (too long ago for my memory) are on the kde-multimedia list. network sound documentation for KDE sucks. Agreed ;) Ideas anyone? Well X11 guys seem to favor mas. There is also a mas arts output plugin, but I don't know how stable it is. At least it's not included in debian artsd. There's also NMN and JACK. As usual you have the choice. Last time I checked kde-multimedia there was quite some discussion what to use instead of arts for KDE4 in the KDE multimedia framework. Achim Anders -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#246110: konqueror: Fails to install with fresh install of sarge. Conflicting file /usr/bin/kfmexec
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 11:30, Nick Hill wrote: Package: konqueror Version: 4:3.1.5-2 Severity: normal This system has only testing in the sources.list pointing to a local apt-cache server. The files on a hard drive have been written freshly using debootstrap. This is a fresh sarge install. The system has been booted with Knoppix. i have then chrooted into the fresh install to set up packages. I run apt-get install kde The installation process halts with the following: installed.)Unpacking konqueror (from .../konqueror_4%3a3.1.5-2_i386.deb) ...dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.1.5-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kfmexec', which is also in package kdelibs-bindpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.1.5-2_i386.debE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) will be fixed when konqueror 3.2.2 enters testing. $ dpkg -L konqueror | grep kfmexec $ dpkg -l konqueror Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++--- ii konqueror3.2.2-1 KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Vi Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#126406: kppp: Alternative for using noauth as suggested by README
On Thursday 22 April 2004 07:36, Ernst Kloppenburg wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 00:29:54 +0200, Achim Bohnet wrote: FWIW here's my alternative: to avoid setting noauth in /etc/peer/options I use allee[0] ~ # cat /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-options noauth and added 'call kppp-options' to kppps 'Customize pppd arguments' option. I assume that it would not be compilicated to patch kppp to add 'call kppp-options' as default for new connections and include the simple /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-option to the kppp pkg. yes, this seems to be the real solution. Better than any advice in a README. Who would make the change? Well, pkgs maintainer always get a copy if one CC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;) I got a laptop with a working modem card working on linux to fix some problems. And realized o noauth is already the default additional pppd option o only possibility (I found) to get kpp to work with pap/chap is to suid it to root because kppp writes stuff to /etc/ppp/{pap,chap}-secrets (cp,modify,rename AFIAR) (looks like worth another bug report) I don't have access to the laptop anymore. So could you please try if 'noauth' instead of 'call kppp-options' works if you do dpkg-statoverride --force --add root 4754 root dip /usr/sbin/kppp # permanent or chmod 4754 /usr/sbin/kppp # until next kppp upgrade ? At least here in Germany all ISP require either PAP or CHAP authentification (guess somewhere else too) and this makes kppp unusable as it is now (kppp in 2.* was setuid root AFAIR and 2.* was done by Ivan who also wrote the README. Hmm..., aaahhh http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200303/msg00339.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200303/msg00316.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200310/msg00076.html ;) I really suspect now that noauth okay but suid bit is missing. If I miss the trick to the get PAP and/or CHAP working with only sgid dip, please let me know. Achim P.S. When suid root is the route to go I would vote to keep 'noauth' instead of my 'call kppp-options' because it more secure. E. Kloppenburg -- Ernst Kloppenburg Stuttgart, Germany -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#245149: kdelibs4: preinst script removes conffile system.kdeglobal
Package: kdelibs4 Version: 4:3.2.2-1 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 10.7.3 kdelibs4.preinst has rm /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals /dev/null || true This was formerly a conffile and we used it here to redefine default fonts, etc. Because KDE does not save a config option in $KDEHOME if the systemwide option has the same value, all users suddenly got debian default font (helvatica is ugly here). As a fix I suggest to add dummy system.kdeglobals file: # Note: Debian KDE pkg 3.2.1 DO NOT need the # dir_* entries in [Directory] and TerminalApplication # in [General] anymore. Please delete them! If system.kdeglobals was not touched people will not be bothered and if the modified it the diff tells them what's the right thing (tm) to do ;) Achim P.S curious: why not the simple rm -f? AFIAK it does the same: $ rm -f does-not-exists-here $ echo $? 0 -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (100, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.3-laptop-1 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 Versions of packages kdelibs4 depends on: ii kdelibs-bin4:3.2.2-1 KDE core binaries ii kdelibs-data 4:3.2.2-1 KDE core shared data ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.16-3 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libarts1 1.2.2-1 aRts Sound system ii libasound2 1.0.4-1 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ii libaudio2 1.6c-3The Network Audio System (NAS). (s ii libaudiofile0 0.2.6-3 Open-source version of SGI's audio ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.2-1 A high-quality block-sorting file ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libcupsys2 1.1.20final+cvs20040330-1 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - ii libesd-alsa0 [ 0.2.29-1 Enlightened Sound Daemon (ALSA) - ii libfam0c1022.7.0-5 client library to control the FAM ii libgcc11:3.3.3-6 GCC support library ii libgcrypt1 1.1.12-4 LGPL Crypto library - runtime libr ii libglib2.0-0 2.2.3-1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgnutls7 0.8.12-5 GNU TLS library - runtime library ii libice64.3.0-7 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libjpeg62 6b-9 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii libmad00.15.0b-3 MPEG audio decoder library ii libogg01.1.0-1 Ogg Bitstream Library ii libpcre3 4.5-1.1 Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-5 PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libsm6 4.3.0-7 X Window System Session Management ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-6 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libtasn1-0 0.1.2-1 Manage ASN.1 structures (runtime) ii libtiff3g 3.5.7-2 Tag Image File Format library ii libvorbis0a1.0.1-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libvorbisfile3 1.0.1-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi ii libx11-6 4.3.0-7 X Window System protocol client li ii libxext6 4.3.0-7 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxml22.6.8-1 GNOME XML library ii libxrender10.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxslt1.1 1.1.5-1 XSLT processing library - runtime ii libxt6 4.3.0-7 X Toolkit Intrinsics ii xbase-clients 4.3.0-7 miscellaneous X clients ii xlibs 4.3.0-7 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-5 compression library - runtime -- no debconf information -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#237491: KDE applications select wrong font
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 17:42, Andreas Tille wrote: Josh, thanks for your hints and sorry for my late answer. [...] Now I leave it to you to find out which setting would care for the font as a reasonable default if somebody works like me and does not call kpersonalizer but instead run KDE appllications from Gnome or any other WM. ;-) Ah, today is systemwide defaultfont day ;) We use since kde 3.0.x /etc/kde3/kdesktoprc [FMSettings] StandardFont=Arial,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals ... [General] ... StandardFont=Arial,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 activeFont=Arial,10,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0 fixed=Courier New,10,-1,5,25,0,0,0,0,0 font=Arial,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 menuFont=Arial,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 toolBarFont=Arial,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 /etc/kde3/konsolerc [Desktop Entry] defaultfont=Courier,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 font=8 ... Substitute the fonts,size with your favorites. Please note that upgrade to KDE 3.2.2-1 removes /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals (see #245149) Achim Please tell me whether you need any further hints to debug the problem. Kind regards and thanks for your help Andreas. PS: Feel free to downgrade severity from important to normal because I think if this problem is documented in this bug report the severity can be lowered. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#126406: kppp: Alternative for using noauth as suggested by README
Hi, FWIW here's my alternative: to avoid setting noauth in /etc/peer/options I use allee[0] ~ # cat /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-options noauth and added 'call kppp-options' to kppps 'Customize pppd arguments' option. I assume that it would not be compilicated to patch kppp to add 'call kppp-options' as default for new connections and include the simple /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-option to the kppp pkg. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to determine konsole tab name?
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 00:56, Rob Sims wrote: I want to be able to run different startup sequences when starting my desktop that contains konsole windows with multiple tabs. For example, in a window with tabs hosta and hostb, I want my startup script to ssh hosta and ssh hostb in their respective tabs. I can find a list of all tabs for the parent window, but can't discriminate among them. Why don't you define konsole session for 'ssh hosta' etc. Then konsole session mgmt does the restart for you. $ cat .kde/share/apps/konsole/ssh-lost.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=KonsoleApplication Name=lost Comment=slogin lost Exec=ssh lost.in.space Achim [...] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#243611: crash: i broke the page selector
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 02:43, Zack Cerza wrote: Package: kpdf Version: 4:3.2.1-1 Severity: normal Tags: sid Open a PDF with multiple pages. In the listbox on the left, 1 should be selected. Click on 1, just to give the listbox focus. Now press the down arrow on your keyboard a few times, and hit PgUp. Normally, this would just bring you to the previous page. Instead, it will probably get a SIGGSEGV. Doh! FWIW: Same with kpdf from 3.2.2-1. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242520: kmail: temporary solution
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 18:00, Gal Ben-Haim wrote: a temporary solution is to set the environment variable KDE_UTF8_FILENAMES=true, and to run kmail with: env LANG=he_IL kmail appearntly this fixes the problem + another problem that outgoing messages are by default encoded with UTF-8, which is not widely used with hebrew messages and needed to be changed on each outgoing message to either ISO8859-8-I or to CP1255, I guess that a pernament solution will be to have config options for default locale, like in Hmm, doesn't this do what you want for outgoing mails?: Settings - Configure kmail ... - Composer - Charset Just add ISO8859-8-I and CP1255 before utf. Achim mozilla-thunderbird where you can set the default incoming and outgoing locales.. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.4-1-686 Locale: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=he_IL.UTF-8 Versions of packages kmail depends on: ii kdebase-kio-plugins 4:3.2.1-1KDE I/O Slaves ii kdelibs44:3.2.1-1KDE core libraries ii ktnef 4:3.2.1-1KDE TNEF viewer ii libart-2.0-22.3.16-3 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libfam0c102 2.7.0-5 client library to control the FAM ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-6GCC support library ii libice6 4.3.0-7 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libjpeg62 6b-9 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii libkcal24:3.2.1-1KDE calendaring library ii libkdenetwork2 4:3.2.1-1KDE Network library ii libkdepim1 4:3.2.1-1KDE PIM library ii libksieve0 4:3.2.1-1KDE mail/news message filtering li ii libmimelib1 4:3.2.1-1KDE mime library ii libpcre34.5-1.1 Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-5PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libsm6 4.3.0-7 X Window System Session Management ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-6The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libx11-64.3.0-7 X Window System protocol client li ii libxext64.3.0-7 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxrender1 0.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client libra ii xlibs 4.3.0-7 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-5compression library - runtime -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242614: kppp: Customizable Device List
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 19:54, Benoit Panizzon wrote: Package: kppp Version: 4:3.1.5-1 Severity: wishlist Yo kppp Maintainer. I use a System with IRDA, Bluetooth and an Lucent Winmodem (Linmodem) Those serial Devices are called /dev/ircomm0 /dev/rfcomm0 /dev/LTmodem fixed-upstream! In kppp of KDE 3.2.1 ircomm and rfcomm are included by default. And it's possible to add more (e.g., I added /dev/ttySHSF0). Achim and are not included in kppp's device list. The easy solution is just to add a softlink from /dev/modem to the wanted device. But as I use all three connections quite often, I get a bit annoyed to change that symlink every time I want to use another device. As I read, the device list displayed by kppp is hardcoded in the headers depending on the os kppp is compiled on. Would it be possible for further releases to add a user expandable device list that would be saved in kppprc? -Benoit- -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.5 Locale: LANG=de_CH, LC_CTYPE=de_CH Versions of packages kppp depends on: ii kdelibs44:3.1.5-1KDE core libraries ii libart-2.0-22.3.16-3 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libaudio2 1.6c-3 The Network Audio System (NAS). (s ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libfam0c102 2.7.0-5 client library to control the FAM ii libfontconfig1 2.2.2-1 generic font configuration library ii libfreetype62.1.7-2 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-5GCC support library ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-5PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-5The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libxcursor1 1.0.2-5 X Cursor management library ii libxft2 2.1.2-6 FreeType-based font drawing librar ii libxrender1 0.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client libra ii xlibmesa3-gl [libgl1] 4.2.1-12.1 Mesa 3D graphics library [XFree86] ii xlibs 4.3.0-7 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-5compression library - runtime -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#242520: kmail: the encoding settings doesn't affect the message's subject
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 08:53, Gal Ben-Haim wrote: FYI: Gal Ben-Haim reported it upstream: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79254 Please vote ;) Achim
Re: pkg-kde: commit - rev 90 - in trunk/packages/kdelibs/debian: . dh-make
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 02:32, Christopher Martin wrote: On April 5, 2004 08:05 pm, Ben Burton wrote: IMO it's still worth encouraging it in Packaging.txt - even KDE users encouter the missing icons nowadays in the Debian menu, where all the KDE apps are duplicated (AIUI). And for people who don't use KDE (or GNOME?), unless we supply icons in the debian menu files, they won't have any icons for these KDE apps at all. Even if you're not adding icons to kdebase right now, it's still worth encouraging packagers of new apps to do it properly. :) While we're on the subject of good practice, I've also noticed that the .desktop files that constitute the KDE menu are spread between /usr/share/applications/kde and /usr/share/applnk. Both locations seem to work, but is there a preferred standard? I've always used applnk, but with 3.2 applications/kde seems to have become more popular. If there is a preferred place, then this might be worth mentioning in Packaging.txt as well. .desktop files in /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/applnk are not identical. So there is only one 'right' location depending if it follows 'old' kde desktop files rules or new 'xdg' rules. Of course the prefered way (tm) are now xdg compliant desktop files. That has the advantage that at least in gnome all kde apps should have an icon without adding 84 times xpm them in debian specific .menu files ;) (A kde desktop files has normally also much translations) Achim Achim Thanks, Christopher Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: Need a sponsor for my konversation package
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 17:05, Dominique Devriese wrote: [...] and AFAICT, the kde.mk class in cdbs contains more up-to-date best-packaging-practices. Hi Nathaniel Maybe you can write a small paragraph for inclusion in Packages.txt about CDBS replacement of the dh_make rules file? Oh, I see, I didn't notice that you were using CDBS... Never mind then :) Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pkg-kde: commit - rev 90 - in trunk/packages/kdelibs/debian: . dh-make
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 19:18, Dominique Devriese wrote: calc, scroll to the bottom :) Christopher Martin writes: If there is a preferred place, then this might be worth mentioning in Packaging.txt as well. AIUI, Packaging.txt is about packaging a normal, well-behaving kde app. These use the kde build system, and as such, should automatically choose the right location, no ? Hmmm, I've built packages (3rd party/extragear stuff) that, by default, use either. oKle - applnk. Gwenview - applications/kde. Those using applnk may be in need of an update, either upstream or in the packaging, certainly, but for whatever reason plenty of apps still do use applnk (K3b and kopete, for instance), and may not bother to change since everything still appears to be working fine. The Kopete developers consciously decided to not use the new dir, because they still support KDE 3.1. I'm not sure about the rest. In any case, if you encounter a package that uses applnk, that didn't consciously decide to do so, then it's most probably a bug in the Makefile.am. For example, in August, someone committed this change to kdeedu/kig/kig/Makefile.am: diff -u -r1.23 -r1.24 --- Makefile.am 27 Jun 2003 12:26:56 - 1.23 +++ Makefile.am 29 Aug 2003 19:59:44 - 1.24 @@ -27,8 +27,7 @@ kig_LDADD = $(LIB_KPARTS) # this is where the desktop file will go -shelldesktopdir = $(kde_appsdir)/Edutainment/Mathematics -shelldesktop_DATA = kig.desktop +xdg_apps_DATA = kig.desktop # this is where the shell's XML-GUI resource file goes shellrcdir = $(kde_datadir)/kig The upstream authors should do something similar ( and make sure they have a recent admin/ dir, so that xdg_appsdir is defined, of course ). .. and make sure the desktop file has a Categories= entry. Because that whats used AFAIU to put the app in a (sub)menu. http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-spec-0.8.html http://freedesktop.org/Standards/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-0.9.4.html Achim Thus a small mention in Packaging.txt might help to nudge packagers (especially new packagers) towards the correct location, in case their sources still default to applnk, for whatever reason. Agreed, care to write the patch, perhaps ? Perhaps also the /u/s/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make/debiandirs should add the following: export kde_appsdir=/usr/share/applications/kde No, this would be wrong. The only problem with this is that apps that had hitherto created a subdirectory in /u/s/applnk (like Multimedia, or Graphics) would now do the same in /u/s/applications/kde... Indeed. One final thing. Packaging.txt currently contains an elaborate description of how to take the kdelibs4-dev debianrules script, place it in MYPACKAGE_SRCDIR/debian/ and convert it, using perl, into the debian/debiandirs file which then sets crucial variables. However, kdelibs4-dev doesn't provide debianrules anymore, but debiandirs directly (in the dh-make directory), so unless I'm mistaken there's no need for any perl kung-fu. All I've been doing is copying the /u/s/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make/debiandirs file into MYPACKAGE_SRCDIR/debian/ and then adding: -include debian/debiandirs in debian/rules before any targets are defined, and it works well. Am I doing something wrong, or can the Packaging.txt instructions be simplified? Well, I agree with you that either debianrules should be installed instead of debiandirs, or Packaging.txt should be adapted. I'm not certain what calc wanted to do, but installing debianrules instead of debiandirs seems like the best solution to me personally. Anyway, calc, please shed some light on this ! cheers domi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quanta, new project
On Sunday 04 April 2004 23:01, Alan Chandler wrote: I am failing totally to set up a project with a set of files which should become my web site. Can someone help be do so. I have a set of files that will make up my personal web site. They are a revamped version of http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk (or rather where this appears to be). I have been using subversion to version control the set of files. The checkout current version is sitting in ~/blue (blue being the name of the project). I want to turn this directory into a quanta project by importing all the files. When ever I try to do this I get an error message saying quanta can't do something with /home/alan/file:/home/alan/blue Is this a quanta problem or how I am filling in one of the dialog boxes? Looks like a qanta problem: see http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cvsw=2r=1s=andras+coolo+file%3Aq=b For the final status search or ask on the quanta list. I just remembered that I saw something similar on kde-cvs. Achim -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. --Gandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: customize menu all users
On Friday 02 April 2004 01:21, Chris Cheney wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 08:48:31AM -0300, Raul Montagne wrote: Note that the directory /usr/local/share/applications may not exist [1], but you need only create it, and it will be searched by the KDE menu system. 1.-which is the search order of KDE for the menus? I am not certain, but if it doesn't look in /usr/local first it is buggy since the freedesktop.org basedir spec states it must look there first. $ kde-config --types ... xdgconf-menu - XDG Menu layout (.menu files) xdgdata-apps - XDG Application menu (.desktop files) xdgdata-dirs - XDG Menu descriptions (.directory files) $ kde-config --path xdgdata-app /home/ach/.local/share/applications/:/usr/local/share/applications/:/usr/share/applications/ Yupp, /usr/local before /usr ;) Raul, note kde-config only shows directories of the search path that exists to prevent unnecessary lookups. Achim 2.- the applications I want to *add* in the KDE menu, I would put in /usr/local/share/applications. But if I want to weed out some applications? I have to weed out this apps from the KDE menu, in the very same /usr/share/application (for KDE 3.2) isn't it? You should be able to simply put a .desktop file into the local directory with the same name as the one you want to replace with the NoDisplay=True value set in the .desktop file 3.- (last...for the time being) where, how to customize a standard panel for a machine for every user? I think this is set via the list in /usr/share/apps/kicker/default-apps if so you should be override it via /usr/local as well. Chris -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#240288: KDE 3.2.1 - Debian Testing?
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 17:51, Dominique Devriese wrote: CC'ing the kdelibs and kdebase maintainer to hear his opinion on the issue. Please keep the CC to #240288. Clemens Brunner writes: Hi Dominique! I've been waiting for KDE 3.2.1 to move into Debian Testing for weeks now, and it finally seemed to happen - until you filed your fake bug, saying that you thought it was probably not a good idea to move kdelibs into Testing. Yes, I'm sorry, I should have provided more info in the report, but I had little time when I was writing it. Could you explain why you filed that bug? kdebase is not yet ready for testing, and it's not a good idea for sarge to have a different kdebase than kdelibs version, for various reasons. I just want to avoid the sarge release hitting us at a point where kdelibs is at 3.2, and kdebase at 3.1. If kdebase is ready, I have no problem with both propagating to testing. How about the combination arts 1.2 from KDE3.2.1 release + KDE* 3.1.5 I've just seen on debian-release: snip- On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:42:50PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: These should both work right now. easy mono/0.30.2-1 mcs/0.30.2-1 easy arts/1.2.1-2 xmms-arts/0.7.1-1 Added. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer snap- AFAIU this means arts from 3.2.1 enters testing in two days according to http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/arts.html. Does this make sense without kde* 3.2.1? Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: customize menu all users
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 18:31, Raul Montagne wrote: Which is the way to customize the KDE menu (big K) for all the users in a machine. Is it there something as .profile, or some kde-menu.config in /etc/skel ? KDE v. 3.1 Add / modify desktop files in: KDE 3.1: /usr/share/applnk/... KDE 3.2: /usr/share/applications/* Achim Debian...mixture of stable-testing thanks talueguito raul -- RAUL MONTAGNE Phone +55-81-21268450 int. 2266 Fax +55-81-32740359 Laboratorio de Fisica Teorica e Computacional - DF - UFPE 50670-901 Recife PE BRASIL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDM problem
On Monday 29 March 2004 09:07, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: On Monday 29 March 2004 08:43, you wrote: On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 11:44:52PM +0200, Anders Ellensh?j Andersen wrote: With the amount of people who choke on this, there can't possible be a good enough excuse for it to not give you a kde session by default. I wholeheartedly agree. I've been using Linux since '97, Debian since Ok enough mumbling about. I have filed a bug report on KDM. that's wrong ;) Please reassign to ksmserver. Achim Anders -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#238135: keyboard shortcuts ctrl+[ and ctrl+] don't work when konqueror started from the menu
On Monday 15 March 2004 15:27, Amit Shah wrote: Package: konqueror Version: 4:3.2.1-1 Severity: normal A very queer bug: Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] don't work when konqueror is started from the K menu. When konqueror is started from the run command dialog (Alt+F2), the keyboard shortcuts work fine. Crtl-[ and Crtl-] work as expected here (testing + KDE 3.2.1 + xf 4.3 from unstable) when started from k-menu or kicker and command line. I created the second tab with ctrl-shift-n and with file- new tab. Achim -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.3-mm3 Locale: LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-15 Versions of packages konqueror depends on: ii kcontrol4:3.2.1-1KDE Control Center ii kdebase-kio-plugins 4:3.2.1-1KDE I/O Slaves ii kdelibs44:3.2.1-1KDE core libraries ii kdesktop4:3.2.1-1KDE Desktop ii kfind 4:3.2.1-1KDE File Find Utility ii libart-2.0-22.3.16-1 Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libfam0c102 2.7.0-5 client library to control the FAM ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-2GCC support library ii libice6 4.3.0-5 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libjpeg62 6b-9 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii libkonq44:3.2.1-1Core libraries for KDE's file mana ii libpcre34.5-1.1 Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-5PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libsm6 4.3.0-5 X Window System Session Management ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-2The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libx11-64.3.0-5 X Window System protocol client li ii libxext64.3.0-5 X Window System miscellaneous exte ii libxrender1 0.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client libra ii xlibs 4.3.0-5 X Window System client libraries m ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-5compression library - runtime -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#237026: Please support a kind of polling for xdms
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 13:12, Torsten Knodt wrote: Package: kdm Severity: wishlist Tags: sid -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, first, as far as I understood, kdm is a fork of xdm. Thats why I filed this wish against kdm. If not, please reassign to xdm. It would be nice, if there would be a way to poll for other xdms, which cant be reached by broadcasts. Polling xdms? If you mean getting a chooser or login window from another host, that's not the task of kdm but of the xserver. Or According to the xaccess help, there is only one entry matching. As a change of minimal impact, I suggest to extend the CHOOSER syntax in a way, that BROADCAST isnt an alternate to the host list, but a reserved word in the list. If you mean that the chooser is provided by the local kdm, search for ChooserHosts in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and you'll find your wish already implemented. Let us know if this fixes you wishlist. Achim With kind regards Torsten - -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable') Architecture: ? (i586) Kernel: Linux 2.6.3 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFATbSpX1/CjdwsodIRAv3cAJ4mH6IVc24ckipvHje6Il9ZeyMe/QCbB15t 1bSM7Ql7RElUcQzGBqiStSA= =dLE7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdegraphics/kpdf
On Friday 12 March 2004 17:37, Stephan Kulow wrote: CVS commit by coolo: try to find /etc/kpdfrc M +6 -1 configure.in.in 1.5.2.1 --- kdegraphics/kpdf/configure.in.in #1.5:1.5.2.1 @@ -37,4 +37,9 @@ AC_SUBST(LIBPAPER_LIBS) - AC_CHECK_FUNCS(fseek64 mkstemp mkstemps popen) + +AC_FIND_FILE(xpdfrc, [/etc /usr/local/etc], xpdfrc) Care to add /etc/xpdf/? Debian stores xpdfrc there. Achim +if test $xpdfrc != NO; then + AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED(SYSTEM_XPDFRC, $xpdfrc/xpdfrc, [Define the location your xpdfrc]) +fi + -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using deb and CVS version alternately?
On Thursday 04 March 2004 23:03, Michael Schuerig wrote: I've got a break-neck question... Is it possible to keep one KDE 3.2 installed from debs and another build from CVS (in /usr/local/kde) in parallel and use them alternately? If anyone has tried such a thing, I'd be interested to hear who you did it. Just make sure that KDEHOME is not ~/.kde when you login to your own KDE build (or be prepared that sooner or later some KDE 3.2 apps show strange effects after you used KDE cvs.) I know that it's possible to keep another KDE in jail (that is in a chrooted environment) that's what I'm already doing. I'm considering a more thrilling experience. Bad timing. Not that much new in CVS compared to KDE 3.2(.1). Try again later ;) Achim Michael -- Michael Schuerig What if the enemy / Isn't in a distant land mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What if it lies behind / The voice of command http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ --Ani DiFranco, Roll With It -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with kdeprint under KDE 3.2 from experimental
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 15:35, Bruce Miller wrote: I am trying to track down the source of the return of problems with kdeprint. linuxprinting.org has declared my Canon multifunction printer to be a Linux paperweight. I therefore run it off a Windows box linked to my main Linux host with Samba. The first problem I have found is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/bruce# dpkg-reconfigure kdeprint sh: line 1: /usr/bin/kdm-update-menu: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/bruce# Same here. There's a /etc/menu-methods/kdm from June 2002 that's not containted in any pkg. My guess is that it's from an old version of kde. It refers to /usr/bin/kdm-update-menu that got removed as it should on upgrade. Anyone knows what happens on upgrade with config files that a no longer in newer version of a pkg? Looks like they are kept on disk. Does policy allow to remove config files that are no longer used? If yes, we should file a bug report against kdm. Mhmm, /etc/menu-methods/kicker is form pkg kicker, but every kde apps that has a 'start/open/view with ..' dialog uses the menu tree. Looks like /etc/menu-methods/kicker should go to kdelibs-bin or something a pkg like that that every kde app pulls in via Depends Achim I shall continue troubleshooting the overall problem and will report any relevant findings to this list. -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Report: KDE 3.1.x/Woody Screensaver Situation
On Tuesday 02 March 2004 03:29, Nick Boyce wrote: Re: my previous reports to this list (Jan.2003 Feb.2004) about how on my Woody system with KDE 3.1.x, (a) the OpenGL screensavers were very slow (unaccelerated), and (b) most of the ~160 screensavers listed in Kcontrol don't work at all : http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200301/msg00718.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/debian-kde-200402/msg00177.html I've been experimenting, and have made two improvements in the situation : 1) I now have beautiful glorious fully accelerated GL screensavers (the KDE ones anyway); I fixed the problem by installing a package I hadn't previously realised I needed : libglide3, Graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards; I suppose users of other brand graphics cards don't need any such helper library (or do they ?). 2) I managed to remove the entries for approx 145 screensavers which don't work from the list offered by the screensaver applet of Kcontrol (leaving 29 working native KDE screensavers). The screensavers listed by Kcontrol are those for which a .desktop file exists in /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers, so I just moved the broken ones out of the way. Looks like kscreensaver should require xscreenssaver* not only recommend them. Or split the package should be split into two pkgs native/external screen savers. I tried to find out why exactly the broken screensavers are broken, and noted that the first few lines of a working screensaver .desktop file are like this : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ more KPyro.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Exec=kpyro.kss Icon=kscreensaver Type=Application Actions=Setup;InWindow;Root Name=Pyro and the Exec line names an executable file to be run : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ which kpyro.kss /usr/bin/kpyro.kss I've tried to run krandom.kss and it refused to run. I've started kswarm as root - okay; ^C - keyboard dead :( Looks like the *.kss are not meant to be run standalone. AFAIF FHS requires/suggests to put the into /usr/lib/kscreensaver/ http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLIBRARIESFORPROGRAMMINGANDPA but for a broken screensaver (e.g. Zoom), the named executable : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ more duff/zoom.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Exec=zoom Icon=kscreensaver Type=Application Actions=InWindow;Root;Setup Name=Zoom doesn't exist in any directory on the path on my system : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ which zoom /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ I did a search of the system, and discovered that the zoom screensaver module *is* on my system, in a place which isn't on the path, so it doesn't work : /usr/lib/xscreensaver/zoom Ah, according to FHS ;) Thus enlightened, I tried editing the zoom.desktop file to add the full path for the screensaver module to each Exec line (there are 4 such lines). This fixed the basic brokenness of the Zoom saver, such that it will now actually work if selected in Kcontrol - *but* didn't fix the Kcontrol screensaver preview pane (which stays dark), or the Test button (which does nothing at all)... and the Setup button just says Did the preview and/or and test button ever work with xscreensavers? If this is/was ever supported I assume that two of the exec lines should have special options for xscreensaver to tell it run embeded in a widget in kcontrol or in test more. Maybe some options have changed? No configuration available for Zoom. This situation seems to be the same for each of the xscreensaver modules - all the .desktop files are broken in the same way, and all can be fixed by adding the full path to the executable module. So where does zoom.desktop come from ? glimmer:~# dpkg -S zoom.desktop kscreensaver: /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers/zoom.desktop glimmer:~# apt-cache policy kscreensaver kscreensaver: Installed: 4:3.1.4-0woody1 Candidate: 4:3.1.4-0woody1 Version Table: *** 4:3.1.4-0woody1 0 500 http://download.kde.org stable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Okay it's a fault in the kscreensaver package at download.kde.org. Should I bug this ? Ralf ? End of report. Questions: (1) Should I fix all 145 broken xscreensaver .desktop files - or just move the xscreensaver modules to a directory on the path ? IMO: file a bug report that the desktop files need a path. I don't think that 3.1.4 get's fixed but problem is still in 3.2.0-1 pkgs. That would allow them to be selected directly from Kcontrol. (2) After that, is there any further need for the XScreenSaver.desktop file ? Its only purpose seems to be to allow Kcontrol to run xscreensaver -setup to give the horrible Motif-y xscreensaver configuration dialog ... which I suppose *does* provide the ability to have a subset of the
Re: admin/debianrules kde_configdir issue
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 11:01, Chris Cheney wrote: I am trying to decide whether I should revert the move of kde_configdir from /etc/kde3 to /usr/share/config that was changed in experimental. It has caused at least one noticable problem, kdm doesn't use the normal kde path lookup like everything else so you can't override its config files in /etc/kde3. It also is probably a policy violation to have config files in /usr/share even though they can be overriden in /etc/kde3. Also since the config files disappeared from /etc/kde3 upgrades from earlier kde 3.x releases will keep their old config files in /etc/kde3 and use them instead of the newer ones in /usr/share/config. If I revert back to /etc/kde3 I think I will need to make a symlink from /usr/share/config - /etc/kde3 so that I still won't need /etc/kderc and /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals. I will probably also need to check and remove any existing /etc/kderc /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals files... Any comments? Hi Chris, I still think that /etc/kde3 /usr/share/config symlink ... is the right thing (tm) to do. I'll agree with Ben that migration can be a bit tricky. Are packages in experimental required to provide a smooth upgrade path too? Btw: is Xfree86 4.3 a release goal for sarge? Some of the experimental kde 3.2 pkgs depend already on 4.3. Achim Thanks, Chris -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#233775: kdm stores/uses config files in /usr/share/config/kdm
Package: kdm Version: 4:3.2.0-0pre1v1 Severity: normal kdm 3.2.0 from people repo installs config files in /usr/share/config/kdm. The files in this this have additional hardcoded path to the same dir. Unfortunately /usr/share/config is _not_ a link to /etc/kde3 but a real dir. Strange is that kdm ignores the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc despite the fact that kde-config --path config lists: /root/.kde/share/config/:/etc/kde3/:/usr/share/config/ Proposed solution: Continue to not install /etc/kderc and make /usr/share/config a link to /etc/kde3. Additionally the patch in kdm/* should be adjusted to use /etc/kde3/... paths and not /usr/share/config. Achim -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux allee 2.4.22-20030830-marlow #1 l�r aug 30 21:17:29 CEST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 Versions of packages kdm depends on: ii debconf 1.3.22 Debian configuration management sy ii kdelibs4 4:3.2.0-0pre1v1 KDE core libraries ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.16-1Library of functions for 2D graphi ii libc62.3.2.ds1-11GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libfam0c102 2.6.10-6client library to control the FAM ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-0pre3 GCC support library ii libpam0g 0.76-15 Pluggable Authentication Modules l ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-4 PNG library - runtime ii libqt3c102-mt3:3.2.3-2 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-0pre3 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libxrender1 0.8.3-5 X Rendering Extension client libra ii xbase-clients4.2.1-12.1 miscellaneous X clients ii xlibs4.2.1-12.1 X Window System client libraries ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1-3 compression library - runtime -- debconf information excluded -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#233775: kdm stores/uses config files in /usr/share/config/kdm
On Thursday 19 February 2004 23:53, Chris Cheney wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:08:50PM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.2.0-0pre1v1 Severity: normal kdm 3.2.0 from people repo installs config files in /usr/share/config/kdm. The files in this this have additional hardcoded path to the same dir. Unfortunately /usr/share/config is _not_ a link to /etc/kde3 but a real dir. Strange is that kdm ignores the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc despite the fact that kde-config --path config lists: /root/.kde/share/config/:/etc/kde3/:/usr/share/config/ Proposed solution: Continue to not install /etc/kderc and make /usr/share/config a link to /etc/kde3. Additionally the patch in kdm/* should be adjusted to use /etc/kde3/... paths and not /usr/share/config. Installing directly into /etc/kde3 is not a good solution for the upstream config files since dpkg at various times decides not to install the config files at all, which completely breaks KDE. This has been the source of problems with KDE in Debian for a long time. However, I will bug upstream about the problem with respect to it not looking in kde-config --path config. Unfortunately that's no solution (IMHO). First time KDE users would have an empty /etc/kde3 and therefore even installing, e.g., and Xservers file in /etc/kde3/kdm does not help because kdmrc explicitely refers to Xservers in /usr/share/config/kdm. Second: to customize things one would have to do a cp /usr/share/config/whatever /etc/kde3/ and the edit it. Aren't we here in trouble with policy?! AFAIU only reason for dpkg not to install a config file is when the old and new pkg had the config file but the config file does not exist when a pkg was updated. But then the apps did also not work before the update. So either dpkg has a not yet reported RC bug or KDE upgrade is broken. Anyone recall another reason dpkg does not install a config file beside the one I described above? Achim Chris -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdeextragear, and kdenonbeta
On Wednesday 18 February 2004 16:40, Alejandro Exojo wrote: Hi. I know that kdeextragear* and kdenonbeta are not official KDE modules, but some applications are packaged for Debian, but some interesting others (kimdaba, amarok, ...) are not. Well there are no official pkgs, but ;) I've announced woody/sid kimdaba KDE 3.2 pkg on the kimdaba list. And I've on my system a amorak pkg. AFAIR I've found them on the amarok home page. I hope that kalyxo.org will sometime in the future provide a pool of all those non-official kde pkgs for woody and sarge (when sarge is called stable) ;) Achim I'm packaging konserve [*], which is in kdenonbeta, and upstream will release a new version next monday. I realized that working without a SVN/CVS repository is a bit tricky, so I considered different options: a) Use a local repository in my machine. Problem: it doesn't allows others to check my sources. b) Open an alioth project, as many others, just for konserve. Problem: I plan to package others in the future, as soon as my skills improve, and I don't want to create a project for each. c) Use KDE's CVS repository. d) Ask Qt/KDE mantainers what's their opinion. Maybe someday my package moves to an official module, and it's interesting to keep history. I don't know possible benefits or possible problems of this option, so that's the reason I'm asking to you ;-). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. [*] It isn't in Debian yet because my sponsor is at Malaga's conference, and he has been a bit busy this days, but a lot of initial minor fixes had been done. If you are curious: deb http://darkshines.net/debian unstable konserve deb-src http://darkshines.net/debian unstable konserve -- Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debiandir
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 02:29, Ben Burton wrote: I'm no expert in makefiles but doesn't the include cause the debian/debiandirs call to be made? This is the way it has always worked for me. (i.e., the include calls the file to be made and then included in the same make run). O, right hand side of include is generated if missing (file:/usr/share/doc/make-doc/make_3.html#SEC16). And it looks like variable expansion is done later. allee(0) ~ $ cat mm -include mm.inc mm.inc: /bin/echo /bin/echo bla=hello mm.inc all: echo $(bla)world allee(0) ~ $ rm mm.inc ; make -f mm all /bin/echo bla=hello mm.inc echo hello world hello world allee(0) ~ $ So everything should be fine. Achim Ben. -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debiandir
Hi, I've seen Chris updating debianrules CVS and wondered how to handle this in other kde pkgs. I had a look that svn trunk: debiandirs is ... o is not in svn o created and removed by rules o -included'ed in rules file. What confused me is that for the first run -include debian/debiandirs can't succeed because it not there. The debian/debiandir rule that creates the file does not fail (to force another build run). Now configure would be called with an empty config_kde. So shouldn't the debiandir rules read: debian/debiandirs: admin/debianrules perl -w admin/debianrules echodirs debian/debiandirs false to force another debuild run with an existing debian/debiandirs? Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
enable-final
Hi, new debianrules does not set --enable-final. Any special reason why it's no longer the default? Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kdeextragear-3/kdebluetooth/debian
CVS commit by ach: Fix rules so debuild works in extragear environment M +18 -7 rules 1.5 --- kdeextragear-3/kdebluetooth/debian/rules #1.4:1.5 @@ -12,10 +12,20 @@ DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE ?= $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) +ifeq $(wildcard ./admin) +# Builds in kdeextragear-3 +CVS_BUILD=true +deb_cfg_dir=.. +deb_src_dir=. +else +# ./admin exists - build outside kdeextragear-3 +deb_cfg_dir=. +deb_src_dir=kdebluetooth +endif + -include debian/debiandirs -debian/debiandirs: admin/debianrules -perl -w admin/debianrules echodirs debian/debiandirs +debian/debiandirs: $(deb_cfg_dir)/admin/debianrules +perl -w $(deb_cfg_dir)/admin/debianrules echodirs debian/debiandirs -CVS_BUILD=true ifneq (, $(findstring true,$(CVS_BUILD))) configkde += --enable-debug=full @@ -38,5 +48,5 @@ # # # run configure with build tree $(objdir) -./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) $(configkde) +cd $(deb_cfg_dir) ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) $(configkde) touch configure-stamp @@ -61,12 +71,13 @@ dh_testroot rm -f build-stamp configure-stamp +rm -f debian/debianrules # Add here commands to clean up after the build process. -$(MAKE) distclean ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) -cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub +cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub $(deb_cfg_dir)/config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) -cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess +cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess $(deb_cfg_dir)/config.guess endif @@ -92,5 +103,5 @@ dh_testdir dh_testroot -dh_installchangelogs ChangeLog +dh_installchangelogs $(deb_src_dir)/ChangeLog dh_installdocs dh_installexamples
Re: ro svn checkout of svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-kde/
On Thursday 12 February 2004 04:59, Chris Cheney wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 11:42:13PM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote: Hi, what's the method to check out a ro copy of svn pkg-kde repository at svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-kde/ o http: and https: always return 405 Method Not Allowed (okay webdav disabled as mention on the home page ;) o svn claims no repository found o svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not accept my alioth account o svn manual does not help any more :( What do I wrong? http is disabled as mentioned on the svn.debian.org main page. If I remember correctly to check out anonymously you need to do something like: svn co svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/trunk Ahhh, http: URL on svn.debian.org had an additonal /svn in the path that has to be removed in the svn: URL. Thx!! to do a regular checkout you need to do: svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-kde/trunk you can't put your username in the URL, you can either setup the special svn way (I forgot what its called) or you add something like the following to your .ssh/config file: Host svn.debian.org User ccheney The other svn way is explained in the svnbook. Neither the .ssh/config, user@ nor --username does work with svn+ssh: (always the same error msg). So I assume that svn+ssh: mean rw access and that's of course denied (no problem for me). Btw. what's the status/usage of debian/ in KDE's cvs and pkg-kde at alioth? Chris pkgs: KDE 3.2 for woody in kde cvs KDE 3.2 for sid in pkg-kde I will probably remove the debian dirs from my packages at kde.org soon unless there is a pressing reason for it to be there. Ralf? Achim Ben everything in kde-cvs Right? Yes at this time. Chris -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ro svn checkout of svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-kde/
Hi, what's the method to check out a ro copy of svn pkg-kde repository at svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-kde/ o http: and https: always return 405 Method Not Allowed (okay webdav disabled as mention on the home page ;) o svn claims no repository found o svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not accept my alioth account o svn manual does not help any more :( What do I wrong? Btw. what's the status/usage of debian/ in KDE's cvs and pkg-kde at alioth? Chris pkgs: KDE 3.2 for woody in kde cvs KDE 3.2 for sid in pkg-kde Ben everything in kde-cvs Right? Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sarge: kde 3.1.5 - 3.2 (people.debian.org)
Hi, during update from sarge + sid KDE 3.1.5 + KO 1.3 to ChrisBen 3.2 the following conflicts occur ('cause pkgs are not in debian yet I thought I report here). It's just FYI, I'm not complaining. Thx for working on 3.2 pkgs!! Achim Preparing to replace kdelibs-bin 4:3.1.5-1 (using .../kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kdelibs-bin ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kfmexec', which is also in package konqueror Preparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.1.5-1 (using .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.95-1_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.95-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/mathml+xml.desktop', which is also in package koffice-data Unpacking libkdepim1 (from .../libkdepim1_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkdepim1_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkdepim.so.1.0.0', which is also in package kdepim-libs dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unpacking libkcal2 (from .../libkcal2_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkcal2_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkcal.so.2.0.0', which is also in package kdepim-libs Preparing to replace libkdenetwork2 4:3.1.5-1 (using .../libkdenetwork2_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libkdenetwork2 ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkdenetwork2_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kpgp-3.1-upgrade-address-data.pl', which is also in package kgpgcertmanager Unpacking replacement kdebase-data ... dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/share/applnk/Graphics': Directory not empty dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/share/applnk/Games': Directory not empty dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/share/applnk/Development': Directory not empty Unpacking konsolekalendar (from .../konsolekalendar_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/konsolekalendar_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/konsolekalendar', which is also in package korganizer Unpacking libkgantt0 (from .../libkgantt0_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkgantt0_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkgantt.so.0.0.2', which is also in package kdepim-libs Unpacking libkpimexchange1 (from .../libkpimexchange1_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkpimexchange1_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkpimexchange.so.1.0.0', which is also in package kdepim-libs Preparing to replace ksmserver 4:3.1.5-2 (using .../ksmserver_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement ksmserver ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ksmserver_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/etc/gdm/Sessions/KDE', which is also in package kwin Preparing to replace kwin 4:3.1.5-2 (using .../kwin_4%3a3.1.95-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kwin ... dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/etc/kde3/debian': Directory not empty dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/etc/gdm/Sessions': Directory not empty dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/etc/gdm': Directory not empty -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody KDE 3.1.4 - 3.2 update report
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 10:09, David Baer wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2004 21:11, Achim Bohnet wrote: Only problem is that I have to life without k3b it's deb is fixed :( Lets collect some 3.2 experience now, ah, oh, ... is there any chance, that problems with k3b-dependencies will be fixed soon? i don't want to live without k3b ;) If you like dirty hacks you can install kdelibs-data (not k3b) with dpkg -i --force-conflicts /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.0-0woody1_all.deb Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody KDE 3.1.4 - 3.2 update report
Hi, replacing latest with 3.2 in download.kde.org deb line I run into the (small) upgrade problems reported below. Nothing serious, but it would be nice if the appropriate Replaces: would be added. Only problem is that I have to life without k3b it's deb is fixed :( Lets collect some 3.2 experience now, ah, oh, ... Great job!! Thx for the 3.2 pkgs!!! Achim Repeated runs of 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' and 'apt-get -f install' uncovered the following problems: Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.0-0woody1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-cue.desktop', which is also in package k3b k3b version installed is 0.10.3-1 (workaroun: dpkg --remove k3b) Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.2.0-0woody1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-kudesigner.desktop', which is also in package kugar kugar 1.2.1-0woody2 is/was installed(workaroun: dpkg --remove kugar koffice) Unpacking replacement kdepim-libs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-libs_4%3a3.2.0-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkgantt.la', which is also in package libkgantt0 libkgantt0 3.1.0-0woody3 is/was installed (workaround: dpkg --remove libkgantt0) Unpacking replacement kdepim-libs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-libs_4%3a3.2.0-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkcal.la', which is also in package libkcal2 Okay same prodecure as above for: Unpacking replacement kde-i18n-de ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-i18n-de_4%3a3.2.0-0woody1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/kgamma.mo', which is also in package kgamma That were all upgrade problem; Then I tried to reinstall removed pkgs and libkcal2-- no longer exists (not needed I guess) libkgantt0 -- kgamma -- automaticly reinstalled kugar, and k3b 0.10.3-1 (from planet-moll) can't be installed right now. Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS(3): kdiff3 - compares and merges 2 or 3 files or directories
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 01:44, Eike \ wrote: Hello! I'm still(*) looking for someone to test and upload the following package. Hi, I've rebuild kdiff3 on woody and had a quick look and test merge. Only strange thing that I could spot is why there are: drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2004-01-12 02:15:47 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2004-01-12 02:15:48 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdiff3/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 21727 2004-01-12 02:13:44 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdiff3/index.cache.bz2 -rw-r--r-- root/root 70907 2004-01-12 02:11:51 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdiff3/index.docbook -rw-r--r-- root/root 7856 2003-12-22 09:01:09 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdiff3/index.html Dupicates of those files + html output + manpage(!) are also in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdiff3 The diff file has become even smaller because upstream has accepted my man page in his new version. Well, removing some duplicate docs will make the deb smaller too ;) Nice pkgs, nice app! Achim kdiff3 is a graphical diff. I think the most useful difference to many other diff programs is that the difference is shown by character, not by line. Additionally, it integrates well into KDE. Package name: kdiff3 Version : 0.9.81 URL : http://kdiff3.sourceforge.net License : GPL Description: compares and merges 2 or 3 files or directories KDiff3 compares two or three input files and shows the differences line by line and character by character. It provides an automatic merge facility and an integrated editor for comfortable solving of merge conflicts. KDiff3 allows recursive directory comparison and merging as well. The package lintian and linda clean. It can be found at: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~eikes/debian/kdiff3/ Ciao, Eike PS: Posted separately to *.mentors and *.qt-kde. How can I crosspost with gmane? (*) My former sponsor seems to be MIA (Rene, are you out there?). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Packaging problem.
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 05:20, Chris Cheney wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 12:00:19PM +0100, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote: To my mind it is not a good idea to include lib in a binary package, so I don't want to do only one package. To be honest I don't know why most of the kde programs have libraries at all. Except for the ones that have kparts or plugins it makes very little sense since they will only be used by the one program. Libraries AFAIU it the libraries are needed for the kdeinit hack, to speed up startup time. that are only used by one program shouldn't be split out at all imho. And generally the ftp admin team frowns on the library packaging guide that states to split everything library into a libfoo libfoo-bin libfoo-dev. If we did that for all of KDE there would probably be an extra 300-400 packages, that would be pointless... I agree. If lib is only needed by one program there should be no extra pkgs. Achim Chris -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struggling with dpkg-buildpackage with kdebase (latest CVS)
On Sunday 28 December 2003 11:06, Alan Chandler wrote: I am trying to build myself some up to date debs (in a sid chroot inside my existing debian system) The apidocs part is failing - thus. Error: tag HTML_HEADER: header file `../apidocs/common/header.html' does not exist make[3]: *** [apidox-am-yes] Error 1 In checking up, it appears that ../apidocs/common is a unsatisfied link to /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common (the HTML directory does not yet exist in my Hi Alan, Normally KDE docs are installed into /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML (note additional kde/ subdir). HTML dir is one of the dirs where KDEs 'everything below one prefix' does not match FHS with prefix set to /usr. chroot - despite having installed kdelibs from the freshly built debs) The relevent piece of makefile in kdebase/admin/Doxyfile.am seems to be the following. if test ! -x $(top_builddir)/apidocs/common; then \ if test -d $(top_srcdir)/doc/common; then \ common_dir=`cd $(top_srcdir)/doc/common pwd` ;\ else \ common_dir=$(kde_libs_htmldir)/en/common ;\ fi ;\ $(LN_S) $$common_dir $(top_builddir)/apidocs/common; \ fi ;\ Which sort of makes me think that $(kde_libs_htmldir) is being set to the final target rather than the obj-i386-linux build directory during the building of the debs. I presume in most peoples case they will have established the /usr/share/docs/HTML hierarchy from previous builds so not noticed the problem. I had a look at one of my debiandirs files and found only export kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML ... configkdevelop=...--with-kdelibsdoc-dir=/usr/share/doc/kdelibs3-doc/html... So kde_libs_htmldir is not set/exported and not defined for configkde. I've not installed kdelibs3-doc so can't check where it's docs are installed. Please check where kdelibs3-doc installs it's docu and add do configkde --with-kdelibsdoc-dir=/usr/share/doc/kdelibs?/html. I guess exporting additionaly kde_libs_htmldir in debiandirs does not hurt. Does this fix the problem? If yes, kde-common/admin/debianrules needs to be updated. I've scouted around the KDE CVS repository looking for recent relevent changes around this area and I can't find any - normally an indication that I am way off beam with my thinking. Since I am new to this area and on a steep learnign curve, can anyone shortcut this for me and help me understand why it is like the way it is (and what needs to change). The KDEs 'everything below' prefix and the quirks used in debian to follow FHS, do not play well together. Untils we find/agree on an algorithm how to handle a KDE installations distrubuted accross a) FHS (easy ;) b) /usr/local c) somewhere else (e.g. /opt or /home/joeUsers/ etc) via KDEDIR(s) and patch kstandarddirs.*.in accordingly the KDE dir layout versus FHS layout issue will catch us again and again. Achim -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad install defaults for KDElibs
On Friday 12 December 2003 20:29, Chris Cheney wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:03:40PM +0100, Achim Bohnet wrote: On Friday 12 December 2003 13:31, Thomas Zander wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in the package kdelibs-data the /etc/kderc file is present (its a symlink), this is not very nice since that means it becomes impossible to have another version of KDE running on the same machine. Right. I usualy delete the file. dpkg-divert did not work (tried long ago). I don't understand why deletion is actually needed as mentioned below, but ymmv. Hi Chris, yes, mmdv ;) /etc/kderc settings affect all KDE installation on host. /usr/share/config/system.kdeglobals (aka /etc/kde3/system.kdeglobals) affects only those with $prefix=/usr, e.g., not the private kde cvs install of a user. KDE allows multiple versions by using the KDEDIR env-var to be set before calling startkde. Unfortunately the new (own-compiled) version will then KDEDIR is no solution for Debian because debian follows the fhs and can't install everything under a common root KDEDIR. Next environment var are fragile and error prone. Indeed, I don't even think if Debian tried to use KDEDIR it would work for the reason mentioned below about how kde_confdir works. find the paths to the /usr/bin and /usr/lib and start using that, getting a nice mix of versions on my desktop. I recommend to use KDEDIR and friends instead of the kderc file. No need for KDEDIR(S): KDE std dir lookup includes a) /etc/kderc # used by all KDE installations b) $kdeconf_dir/system.kdeglobals # aka /etc/kde3/ on Debian c) hardcoded stuff in kstandarddirs.cpp(.in) As a) points to b), a) is just a duplicate but at the same time confuses other parallel KDE installations. AFAIR remember most (if not all) vars in system.kdeglobals are identical to compiled in values in kstandarddirs.cpp(.in). All derived from debian/debiandirs file. If you don't use /etc/kderc and don't store configs in $prefix/share/config (iow use /etc/kde3) then KDE will not know where But Debian stores config in $prefix/share/config - /etc/kde3, right? Therefore system.kdeglobals is found and there's no need for /etc/kderc. to locate other files since it forces everything to be located under the $prefix it was installed in. IOW $kdeconf_dir = $prefix/share/config which is hardcoded into the library itself, yes its a f*cking nasty hack (KDE is filled with them), but I don't know how to patch around it cleanly so I just use the /etc/kderc to override it. Also the KDE lookup looks in KDEDIR before /etc/kderc or did the last time I checked. For example: /home/ccheney/.kde/bin/:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/bin/ with KDEDIR=/opt/kde3 it should show as: /home/ccheney/.kde/bin/:/opt/kde3/bin:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/bin/ Am I missing something? BTW the only things I have listed in system.kdeglobals now are things that differ from upstream KDE since I realized the others weren't really needed. Summary: get rid of /etc/kderc, Debians KDE will not notice. For reasons noted above KDE definitely would notice... Not here. Try, with /usr/share/config - /etc/kde3: for d in `kde-config --types | awk '{print $1}'`; do kde-config --path $d; done once with and once without the /etc/kderc - kde3/system.kdeglobals links I've never found a difference here. Achim Chris -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde deb pkg questions
Hi, While packaging some kde apps for woody and I run into some annoying problems: o Some Makefile.am use KDE 3.2 xdg_appsdir and destop files end up in /usr/share/applications/kde also for kde 3.1.4. My current workaround is to use in rules make install xdg_appsdir=/usr/share/applnk/Graphics ... Is there an better way? E.g., Makefile.am changes or starting automake with some magic so kde 3.1.4 install in applnk and kde 3.2 installs into applications? o upstream tar balls comes with po/*/*.gmo files. Those are updated during make but not removed by distclean. So a second debuild fails due to binary changes compared to .orig.tar. What's the right way handle this? remove *.gmo files for orig.tar touch gmo files so there are not rebuild modify distclean ? Thx for any advise, Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad install defaults for KDElibs
On Friday 12 December 2003 13:31, Thomas Zander wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in the package kdelibs-data the /etc/kderc file is present (its a symlink), this is not very nice since that means it becomes impossible to have another version of KDE running on the same machine. Right. I usualy delete the file. dpkg-divert did not work (tried long ago). KDE allows multiple versions by using the KDEDIR env-var to be set before calling startkde. Unfortunately the new (own-compiled) version will then KDEDIR is no solution for Debian because debian follows the fhs and can't install everything under a common root KDEDIR. Next environment var are fragile and error prone. find the paths to the /usr/bin and /usr/lib and start using that, getting a nice mix of versions on my desktop. I recommend to use KDEDIR and friends instead of the kderc file. No need for KDEDIR(S): KDE std dir lookup includes a) /etc/kderc # used by all KDE installations b) $kdeconf_dir/system.kdeglobals # aka /etc/kde3/ on Debian c) hardcoded stuff in kstandarddirs.cpp(.in) As a) points to b), a) is just a duplicate but at the same time confuses other parallel KDE installations. AFAIR remember most (if not all) vars in system.kdeglobals are identical to compiled in values in kstandarddirs.cpp(.in). All derived from debian/debiandirs file. Summary: get rid of /etc/kderc, Debians KDE will not notice. Achim See also: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70208 - -- Thomas Zander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/2bUVCojCW6H2z/QRAj3fAKCwsoTUqn3a6Hfu00ooi8H4yKHIJQCfSMad GVbzYuNbQwsKSIo8R8pyXts= =s6cU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kaudiocreator questions
On Monday 08 December 2003 13:05, jerry garcia wrote: Hi all! I'm in the process of setting up a music server, and replacing all my 300 disk cd changers permanently, but have run into a snag. I've got a question about kaudiocreator. I'm using sarge/sid, and when I run kaudiocreator, even though I've marked the box that says 'save wav file as well as encoded file' only the lame encoded mp3 is saved. any suggestions on which file I need to edit to force this? I'm running KDE 3.14 on woody and the wav files are kept as /tmp/kde-username/kaudiocreator*.tmp. Maybe a bug in the sid pkg? I've still got 500 gig of wav's to encode for the server, so this is fairly important to me. Under rh 9, this worked well, but as i didn't care for fedora, I migrated over to debian via knoppix. Welcome! Achim Thanks for any help. jaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kppp problem
On Monday 06 October 2003 13:03, Zbynek Vrastil wrote: Hi all, I've following problem: I'm using kppp to connect to internet. It works perfectly when logged as root. But when I'm logged in as normal user, pppd dies with exit status 16 (modem hanged up) when checking username and password. I suppose, there's some problem with access permissions, but I've no idea where to look. Thanks in advance. Hi, a) check that the user user that the kppp user is a member of the group dip. b) kppp tries to add auth info to /etc/ppp/{pap,chap}-secrets. That's only possible as root. Therefore I made kppp setuid root (as it was for KDE 2). dpkg-statoverride --update --add root dip 4754 /usr/bin/kppp You have to decide yourself if this is safe or a security hole. Achim Zbynek Vrastil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Again: Delays starting KDE apps after upgrade 3.1.3 = 3.1.4
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 01:41:22AM +0200, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2003 23:29, Doug Holland wrote: 2. /tmp/.ICE-unix/ missing or has wrong owner/group/permissions. To fix, execute following commands as root. mkdir /tmp/.ICE-unix chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix In sid, this directory is created at user login with the users username and users group, but with the same permissions as stated. I have tried creating these files as root in an init script which get executed on boot, and it doesn't make any difference in speed on my system. Not any that I can notice anyway. You'll notice the effect when you logout/login. With .ICE-unix chown root:root it takes here ~ 1 sec until KDE session is up and 2-3 sec until all KDE apps are restored. With .ICE-unix owned by a normal user the second login takes 3-4 times longer. Achim But I can't complain about the speed in any case. It's as snappy as bulky old XFree86 gets. Anders
Re: Ownership of /tmp/.ICE-unix and KDE speed
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 12:34:00PM +0200, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: On Friday 19 September 2003 09:23, Achim Bohnet wrote: You'll notice the effect when you logout/login. With .ICE-unix chown root:root it takes here ~ 1 sec until KDE session is up and 2-3 sec until all KDE apps are restored. With .ICE-unix owned by a normal user the second login takes 3-4 times longer. No matter what the ownership of that file is I get nowhere near that speed. On my ASUS A1300 with 650MHz celeron and 300MB SDRAM, KDE starts up in around 10-15 seconds on cold boot. It's a bit faster on relogin at somewhere under That's here the same on a cold boot because the disk access is the limiting factor and therefore your numbers are what I normally get too (one kde session until shutdown). In the case I login/logout/login (tests/reconfig ...), and verything is in RAM (_no_ disk access according to led here!) I see a big effect if ICE-unix is owned by root or not. With ICE-unix chown root, after login I almost immediately see the kdesktop ksplash on the first or second last item indicating that the apps are restored. That's on a laptop with 1.4 MHz Pentium, 512 MBRAM. I've seen the same effect on a 4 way sunserver via an X-terminal. As soon as disk access is involved the ICE-unix slowdown is hidden. Achim 10 seconds. So 1 second to start the KDE session sounds absolutely incredible to me. But the ownership of /etc/.ICE-unix doesn't make any difference at all to this, not here anyway. Anders
Re: kdelibs4-dev and XFree86 4.3.0
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:21:46PM +0200, Andreas Richter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i have installed the Daniel Stone Backport of XFree86 4.3.0 Packages from http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/ on my Woody-System. Yesterday i upgraded my System to the brand new KDE 3.1.4 Packages from ftp.kde.org. But the Package kdelibs4-dev couldn't be upgraded and now i can't this packages installed. The dependencies need the Package xlibs-pic from the original XFree86 Woody Pakages. Hm. What can i do to develop again with my KDE 3.1.4 and XFree86 4.3.0? Have anybody a Reason to solve this Problem? Well, at least with xfree86 4.2 4.3 it's possible. It helps a lot that X11 has a client server architecture ;) I've updated the server and fonts to 4.3 but kept the client side libraries for 4.2 I use kdelibs-dev without problems: [EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ dpkg -l | egrep ' 4.2.1-' ii xbase-clients 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 miscellaneous X clients ii xlib6g 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 pseudopackage providing X libraries rc xlibmesa3 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library ii xlibs 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 X Window System client libraries ii xlibs-dev 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 X Window System client library development files ii xlibs-pic 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 X Window System client extension library PIC archives ii xnest 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 nested X server ii xprt4.2.1-3.bunk.5 X print server ii xterm 4.2.1-3.bunk.5 X terminal emulator ii xvfb4.2.1-3.bunk.5 virtual framebuffer X server [EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ dpkg -l | egrep ' 4.3.0-' ii lbxproxy4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy server ii libdps1 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Display PostScript (DPS) client library ii libxaw6 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Athena widget set library (version 6) ii libxaw7 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Athena widget set library ii proxymngr 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X proxy services manager ii twm 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Tab window manager ii x-window-system-core4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Window System core components ii xdm 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X display manager ii xfonts-100dpi 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2100 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-100dpi-transcode 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2100 dpi fonts for X (transcoded from ISO 10646-1) ii xfonts-75dpi4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody275 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-75dpi-transcoded 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody275 dpi fonts for X (transcoded from ISO 10646-1) ii xfonts-base 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2standard fonts for X ii xfonts-cyrillic 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Cyrillic fonts for X ii xfonts-scalable 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2scalable fonts for X ii xfree86-common 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure ii xfwp4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X firewall proxy server ii xlibmesa-dev4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics development library meta-package [XFree86] ii xlibmesa-gl-dev 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics library development files [XFree86] ii xlibmesa-glu-dev4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa OpenGL utility library development files [XFree86] ii xlibmesa4-dri 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics library modules [XFree86] ii xlibmesa4-gl4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics library [XFree86] ii xlibmesa4-glu 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa OpenGL utility library [XFree86] ii xserver-common 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2files and utilities common to all X servers ii xserver-xfree86 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2the XFree86 X server ii xspecs 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X protocol, extension, and library technical specifications ii xutils 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Window System utility programs [EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ dpkg -l kdelibs\* | grep '^i' ii kdelibs-bin 3.1.4-0woody1 KDE core binaries ii kdelibs-data3.1.4-0woody1 KDE core shared data ii kdelibs43.1.4-0woody1 KDE core libraries ii kdelibs4-dev3.1.4-0woody1 KDE core libraries (development files) ii kdelibs4-doc3.1.4-0woody1 KDE core library documentation So try downgrading to client libs to 4.1 or if this does not work, goto back to 4.2 fro bunk repository deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free Achim Thanks - -- Gruss/Greetings Andreas Richter OSZine - Das deutschsprachige Open Source Magazin (http://www.oszine.de) GnuPG-PubKey:
Re: Bug#208205: Stopping kdm does not cleanly logout active kde sessions
Hi, autologout on X-server shutdown is IMHO a great feature but as you see below it freezes my laptop. Anyone an idea what's going on? Achim On Tuesday 02 September 2003 14:10, Dave Cinege wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:08, Achim Bohnet wrote: as root from the command line and my laptop shutdown completely. DOH!!! Yes I noticed the same when I did this 2 weeks ago...intended to fix it before mailing you.then forgot. : P After a good 1.5 hours of searching I finally dug up the needed info from the KDE site. See: http://devel-home.kde.org/~danimo/apidocs/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html The 3 init args to logout are: ShutdownConfirm, ShutdownType, ShutdownMode I had type = 2, which is halt. It should be 0. (None) If you find how to just logout all users (there can be several session on :0 :1 ...) it's a great feature IMHO to should go into kdms init.d script. Thinking more about it the right place for such a peace of code is not kdm init.d script. One can log into gnome with kdm or with gdm into kde. So it should be a standalone script in kdelibs, e.g., /etc/X11/x-session-logout.d/kde3# gnome, ... So any x session manager can logout the user regardless what desktop the user prefers. That all scripts get executed should be the duty of /usr/X11R6/bin/X. Nevertheless such changes take time so until it's implemented a good temporory home is /etc/init.d/kdm ;) Maybe this: dcop --all-users --all-sessions ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0 Well, actually worser for me. I looks like that it does the right thing but after that my system had freeze :( Power off/on was the only solotion. I had two session running: allee[0] ~ # dcop --list-sessions --all-users Active sessions for user /home/ach : .DCOPserver_allee__0 Active sessions for user /home/ttt : .DCOPserver_allee__1 allee[0] ~ # dcop --all-users --all-sessions ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0 DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! allee[1] ~ # I tried again with the usual std session on :0 I hear the logout sound screen turn black and #$%$^ hard lock again :( I really think the 'auto logout before shutting down X server' is a very good idea but as you can see it could cause trouble and needs further testing and investigation. Let me suggest to move the discusson to debian-kde@lists.debian.org Achim Dave -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kscd fails as normal user, works through kdesu -c
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 23:13, Josh Metzler wrote: I can play cd's using kscd as root (by doing kdesu -c kscd). When I use the icon on the K-menu, kscd appears in the taskbar, then disappears quickly. The window never appears. When I try running it from konsole, I get the following errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kscd kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ CDTEXT INFO: use GET_FEATURE_LIST(0x46)... CDTEXT INFO: try to read, how long CDTEXT is? CDTEXT INFO: CDTEXT is a 7 byte(s) long CDTEXT INFO: try to read CDTEXT CDTEXT INFO: read 7 byte(s) of CDTEXT CDTEXT INFO: free_cdtext_info() called CDTEXT ERROR: invalid packet at 0x: 0x 00 00 00 08 5F 00 55 00 53 00 08 08 11 00 00 00 D8 CF At this point nothing else happens - there is no kscd window, no CD activity, and no sound. There is brief CD activity around the time of CDTEXT INFO: ... Hitting Enter gets me a prompt back, but I must manually kill the kscd process, even though it appears to be doing nothing. If've had a similar problem last night when I used kscd after a long time again (but did not try kscd as root). I had to create /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb by hand because kscd refused to start without it. Then kscd crashed until I disalbed remote freedb in the kscdrc config file. Later I could enable remote freedb again and got a crash when I inserted a CD never played with kscd before while kscd was running. Restarting kscd worked this time. Very strange. I had no time yet to figure out when/what why something goes wrong. Achim I'm guessing it's a permissions problem, since it works kdesu root, but I don't really know where to start. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Josh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDM hangs
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 15:32, Peter Clark wrote: I'm having a minor issue with KDM on my shiny new laptop; I've got it set up so that I loads on both vt7 and vt8. /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers looks like this: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp vt7 :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp vt8 Why don't you use :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 :1 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8 :2 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9 :3 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10 This start Xserver on vt8...vt10 when needed. With these 'reserved' entries K-menu and screen saver have a new 'Start new session' entry that start x-server on vt8 then vt9 ... Achim However, whenever I start the laptop, kdm stops loading on one vt until I switch over to the other. Only then will both load. When I say, stops loading, I mean that the black and white fuzz appears, plus the mouse cursor, and then...nothing. Once I switch over, then the wallpaper and login window appear. My desktop has the same setup, but doesn't have an problem loading them separately. (Although it won't start a kdm session until I switch over to the other vt, at which point I have to wait for it to load before continueing. It would be nice if it loaded in the background, but first things first.) Is there anything I'm missing here? :Peter -- Oh what a tangled web they weave who try a new word to conceive! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kshowmail with KDE 3.1.2
On Sunday 01 June 2003 06:47, CRH wrote: Has anyone successfully compiled kshowmail http://sourceforge.net/projects/kshowmail/ with KDE 3.1.2? I am unable and I don't know whether it's incompatibility with KDE 3.1 or compiler issues. Below are the make errors. Install libmimelib1-dev Achim decodeRFC2047.cpp:21:28: mimelib/mimepp.h: No such file or directory decodeRFC2047.cpp: In function `QCString decodeQuotedPrintable(const QCString) ': decodeRFC2047.cpp:40: error: `DwString' undeclared (first use this function) decodeRFC2047.cpp:40: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) decodeRFC2047.cpp:40: error: parse error before `(' token decodeRFC2047.cpp:43: error: `dwsrc' undeclared (first use this function) decodeRFC2047.cpp:43: error: `dwdest' undeclared (first use this function) decodeRFC2047.cpp:43: error: `DwDecodeQuotedPrintable' undeclared (first use this function) decodeRFC2047.cpp: In function `QCString decodeBase64(const QCString)': decodeRFC2047.cpp:54: error: parse error before `(' token decodeRFC2047.cpp:58: error: `DwDecodeBase64' undeclared (first use this function) make[2]: *** [decodeRFC2047.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/craig/downloads/kshowmail-3.0.4/kshowmail-3.0.4/kshowmail' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/craig/downloads/kshowmail-3.0.4/kshowmail-3.0.4' make: *** [all] Error 2 -- Ciao, CRH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 22:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: When nolden debs where out there, I know that he used the version.. Package: libcupsys2 Versions: 1.1.18-1woody2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) but libcupsys2-dev relies on I'm sure when 'nolden debs' where out there, there was also a libcupsys2-dev 1.1.8. libcupsys2-dev: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.14-4.4) but 1.1.18-1woody2 is to be installed.. Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do we need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? KDE 3.* was and will never be in woody. It's in an unofficial apt repository ;) It's save to downgrade to 1.1.14. (as long as you don't use new cups 1.1.18 features) to downgrade to 1.1.14. Did it some weeks ago without any problems. Achim -- -- Catch the Magic of Linux... Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with printing in konqueror?
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 02:06:47PM -0500, Donald Spoon wrote: Paul Cupis wrote: -SNIP- FWIW, I have CUPS and KDE running fine together on sid, and have done for a while. I vaguely recall that I may have had to blow away my configuration after a CUPS upgrade a while ago - perhaps kprinter generates a cups.conf which the newer/current CUPS pacakges do not like? Can anyone having these problems try replcing their cups.conf with the package maintainers version, reconfiguring, and trying again? It would be useful to know if this is the cause of the problem, so that we may try and resolve it. Thanks. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, I had this happen to me about 2 weeks ago. I had upgraded KDE to 3.1.1, and subsequently upgraded from CUPS from Debian testing to the version in unstable. I elected to keep my existing, moderately modified, conf files during the install. They had been working OK, so I thought why not? This turned out to be a BIG mistake... I never could make the new CUPS install work completely as it had before! It would print locally, and even remotely via SAMBA, but I could never get it to advertise itself to my LAN via CUPS as an available printer. I finally trashed my old conf file and replaced it with the packager's version and everything started working! In my case, it was the old /etc/cupsd.conf file that wasn't nice. Hi Don, Did you check the difference between the old cups settings and the new ones? If we can't track down this problem every(?) upgrade may break cups. Not good for debians or cups' reputation ;) Achim Submitted FYI... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kamera, Pencam, hotplug, perms
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 01:39:49AM -0700, Michael Rudmin wrote: Hi, I have a problem which seems like it should have come up before, but maybe it's new, because it's got a little twist. I installed hotplug usb, and have a Argus DC1500 [essentially a pencam: it requires USB data transfer, and is not just a USB block device]. When I plug in my camera, I see in /proc/bus/usb/001 two files, one of which is the driver 001 and one of which is the camera, with a different number like 005. Wild guess: Check if hotplug loads camera q specific kernel module: /sbin/lsmod |head # plugin camera /sbin/lsmod |head I could not use the usb with DC2400 until I disabled autoloading of dc2xx for a Kodak DC240. Now, I also installed /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam and all that, so that it should adjust the permissions. I used the usbcam.group as my source for usbcam, and adjusted it to be executable. Then from the command line, I addgroup'd camera, and added my user name to the group camera with #adduser myuser camera. Note that usbcam.group refers to the group camera. And now my executable usbcam does, as well. I also checked that the Argus' control variables, as referenced in /proc/bus/usb/devices, is covered by the graphics engine that runs all the permissions stuff. Finally, on KDE I set up (control panels)::(peripherals)::(camera) to include my Argus DC1500. When I type in camera:/ in the file manager URL, I get my DC1500. But when I click on it, I get one of two messages: Cannot claim USB Bus, or sometimes I/O problem. Cannot read file or sometimes Could not read file: bad parameters. Just to see if it was a permissions problem, I rather foolishly logged into KDE as root [I know, not a good idea, can wreck things], and tried to access the camera from there. No good -- it says Cannot claim USB Bus. Maybe with time, it would give me the other errors instead. Try the gphoto2 command line tool. This will test you if it's a libgphoto/kernel problem or if it KDEs camera io slave. If gphoto2 works and camera:/ not you may try digikam. Achim Does anyone know what is going on, and what I have to do differently? I've tried to follow the installation instructions everywhere, but I seem to be doing something wrong.