Re: KMail problem

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 6 de junio de 2007, Hervé Piedvache escribió:
> No in my Kaddress book it's really quick to get the result ... and I never
> get any result from KMail address completion except the last used addresses
> ...

I am testing this again and it seems that the delay has disappeared.  
This is 
lenny up to date (I think that one week ago the bug was here) (4:3.5.7-1).

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Re: KMail problem

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 6 de junio de 2007, Wesley J. Landaker escribió:
> On Wednesday 06 June 2007 03:36:00 Hervé Piedvache wrote:
> > I'm under Sid with the last dist-upgrade ... using KMail 1.9.7. inside
> > Kontact.
> >
> > I have two big troubles :
> > - The auto completion of email address does not work anymore ... with my
> > Ldap server ... using Kontact/KAdressbook I have access to my Ldap
> > contacts very well ... I have changed nothing in the configuration of
> > KMail ... just dist-upgrade ... in the options I can choose the order of
> > completion and I see the Ldap server which is the first one ... but KMail
> > only give me access to the last address I have used ... I never see the
> > Ldap contacts !! Was working before the last dist-upgrade :o(
> >
> > - The Forward functionnality works when it want ... I mean most of the
> > time when I do a forward (classical one inside mail) ... The new mail
> > message form appear with the original mail but without the Forward
> > template at the beginning ... exactly like if i was the writer of the
> > mail ... missing this :
>
> I've seen bother of these as well, so I can confirm they are real bugs.
> (You might want to submit a bug report via reportbug or via e-mail as
> explained at .)

I have seen that LDAP search works, but *very* slowly.  I mean, I enter 
searches in the LDAP query window in the Address Book, and in maybe 10 or 20 
seconds I get the result of my search.  Can you try to see if this is what is 
happening?

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Re: New mail arrival notification windows a la Thunderbird?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 1 de junio de 2007, Tim Ruehsen escribió:
> Hi,
>
> maybe it is not settings->notification what you want.
> I use filters to automatically move emails into folders (each of my
> customers has one).
> In some cases i have to check if these emails contain special subject
> information. and if so, i let popup a blocking windows that forces me to
> react (like critical conditions on machines that i care for).
>
> to do so, i create a filter based on 'From' and 'Subject', add actions
> 'move to folder' and 'execute'. 'execute' starts
> /usr/bin/kdialog --msgbox "Important message from Maschine X! Check
> immediately!"

Yes, it could probably be nearer to what I expect, but I do not like 
the 
concept of a blocking window, and of course not a window in the middle of my 
desktop, even if it is going to vanish after some time.

Anyway, thank you very much for your answer. :-)


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Re: New mail arrival notification windows a la Thunderbird?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 1 de junio de 2007, Isaac Clerencia escribió:
> One of the advantages of using KDE is that it's quite consistent. Every
> application has an entry in the Settings menu to configure notifications.
>
> KMail is no exception and allows you to setup notification on new mail
> using the Settings->Notification menu entry.

Thank you, Isaac, but ...the interface is too poor (stingy?) for 
me.  I 
meant something like Subject and Sender headers, as I said, a la Thunderbird 
or Outlook.  I guess that when you choose 'run a program' none of that 
information is passed to the called program, isn't it?

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New mail arrival notification windows a la Thunderbird?

[David Martínez Moreno]

Hello, I am missing a feature in KMail for popping up a window when new 
messages arrive to a mailbox (or simply new mail arrives), as Outlook and 
Thunderbird do.  The only thing I have seen is the System tray option for 
displaying an icon for KMail, but nothing else.

Do you know if there is any way of doing it or a bug asking for this 
feature?

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Re: KDE 3.5.6 in Sid?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 13 de abril de 2007, Ana Guerrero escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:25:29AM -0700, kruton wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just a curiosity: When is KDE 3.5.6 branch going to
> > come down to Sid?
>
> About end of next week.

Oh, come on! We already had kde-l18n packages for 3.5.6 when etch was 
released, it should not be that difficult! ;-

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Re: Some about charsets and kmail

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 9 de marzo de 2007, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda escribió:
> Hola David,
>
> thanks. I will try, however, I would like to ask one question:
> which one is the less problematic configuration with the charset?
> utf-8?
> iso8859-15?

Hola, Leo.  I am stick to iso8859-15 since I started with Linux 
(several 
years ago), and putting apart the time I stayed with the broken KMail config, 
charset has not been a problem, given that KMail recognizes the charset in 
incoming messages and displays it apropiately.

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Re: Some about charsets and kmail

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 9 de marzo de 2007, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda escribió:
> Hi,
>
> well this message is mainly for the people who as me, are living in a world
> with accents and different characters in the occidental world. I'm sure
> that people with different alphabet the situation is worst :-)
>
> I write mainly in three languages: Catalan, Spanish and English. My main
> problems are in Catalan and Spanish with the accented chars and ç  ñ.
>
> I thought that I sent my messages using utf-8. Howeber I discovered that it
> was not true. Although that in the kmail configuration, the editor part,
> the charset, I have:
> utf-8
> utf-8(locale)
> iso8859-15
>
> kmail sent message with the last one, I don't know why.
>
> Also, I have selected the box with maintain the charset in the replies if
> is possible. Howeber I have found that I replied a message with utf-8 with
> iso8859-15, so the replied message is impossible so see ok because the
> merge of charsets.
>
> There are also a  part in the configuration that I really don't understand
> what does it means. In the appearance section the Message window tab, there
> are two settings that I don't really understand:
> Fallback character encoding
> Override character encoding.

Hola, Leo.

I had a similar problem several months ago, and I found that KMail was 
not 
really changing in the configuration my preference for charset.  Take a look 
at .kde/share/config/kmailrc and search for 8859-15 strings.  I made a copy, 
then I removed some line(s) regarding the wrong charset, and I run again 
KMail, with success.

Give it a try.

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Re: Missing DCOP interface in konsole?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El martes, 28 de noviembre de 2006 17:50, Hendrik Sattler escribió:
> Am Dienstag 28 November 2006 17:20 schrieb David Martínez Moreno:
> > Hello.  I have been thinking of writing with an external script into a
> > konsole.  Searching through Google I have not found a lot of information
> > about it, only references to feedSession (I think that is what I want)
> > and others, that are not present in my konsole DCOP interface:
>
> You must start konsole with the --script option to get those.
> $ konsole --script
> and in that konsole run
> $ dcop konsole-$PPID session-1

Damn, you are right.  Thank you very much!

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Missing DCOP interface in konsole?

[David Martínez Moreno]

Hello.  I have been thinking of writing with an external script into a 
konsole.  Searching through Google I have not found a lot of information 
about it, only references to feedSession (I think that is what I want) and 
others, that are not present in my konsole DCOP interface:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dcop konsole-4007 session-1
QCStringList interfaces()
QCStringList functions()
bool closeSession()
bool sendSignal(int signal)
void clearHistory()
void renameSession(QString name)
QString sessionName()
int sessionPID()
QString schema()
void setSchema(QString schema)
QString encoding()
void setEncoding(QString encoding)
QString keytab()
void setKeytab(QString keyboard)
QSize size()
void setSize(QSize size)
QString font()
void setFont(QString font)

Any hint?

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Re: kmail deposits attachments in /tmp....

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 25 de octubre de 2006 07:48, Greg Madden escribió:
> Sorry for the rant . I am using the latest kmail/kontact Etch, 1.9.5,
> KDE 3.5.5, updated a couple of days ago, kdelibs updated today. If I
> click on an attachment for a filtered/archived email I get /tmp... does
> not exist. If I do a save as I can go to the saved location and it
> works. No lost data but not an optimal solution.
>
> Addendum it doesn't happen on all filtered emails ?? Just the most
> important one :-)

In fact, the attachment procedure is a little more complicated that 
simply 
click in the link displayed in the body of any particular mail.

When you click in it, KMail saves the attachment in the usual dir 
(/tmp/kde-whatever/blabla), and removes it *when you change to another mail*. 
So if you click on a .doc, and while OpenOffice is loading you change the 
active mail, OO will end with "XXX.doc not found".

I do not know if this explains what is happening to you.

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Re: k3b can't eject cd

[David Martínez Moreno]

El jueves, 21 de septiembre de 2006 09:50, Lorenzo Bettini escribió:
> Hi
>
> I'm trying to copy a cd, having only one driver.
>
> when k3b finishes copying the original it fails to eject the cd, thus I
> must abort the whole procedure...
>
> is there a way to avoid this?  I mean since the original is correctly
> copied is there a way to manually eject the cd so that I can keep on
> with the procedure?

Could you try the eject command, to see if your drive recognizes such 
order?

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Re: k3b always closes cd

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 18 de septiembre de 2006 09:50, roberto escribió:
> hello
> i use k3b 0.11.20 and it always prevents me to use the rest of free
> space in a burned cd after the process of burning it. So i loose all
> the remaining free space:
> do you know how to prevent this?
>
> i cheked the the help but i did not find informations...

Well, I used k3b 0.12.17 for testing this issue, but it was simply a 
matter 
of choosing in the Burn dialog, under 'Multisession mode', the 
setting 'Continue Multisession'.

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Re: Kmail and spamassasin bayes rule.

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 30 de agosto de 2006 01:17, Raúl Sánchez Siles escribió:
[...]
>   After some training I have the impression that this is not working
> properly and my suspicion is that kmail is not passing the whole e-mail to
> sa-learn so that it could learn the tokens.
>
>   I did a simple script and used it as command and that confirmed me that
> little suspicion, but on the contrary you could read in the kmail manual[2]
> subsection "Execute action" that the e-mail is send through stdin. Can you
> confirm this?

Hello, Raúl.  I have used something like yours to feed spam to 
sa-learn, and 
the action I used was 'Pipe to' (or whatever name it has in English).  The 
problem with it was that the output from sa-learn is not the mail, but "X 
message(s) accepted" or something like that, and so the mail is replaced by 
that stupid line...probably is not what you wanted to hear. :-)

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Re: How to use -dbg packages?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El domingo, 27 de agosto de 2006 23:59, Alejandro Exojo escribió:
> Sorry to stress this again (and correct me if I'm wrong), but NO, there is
> no penalty in runtime if you install a -dbg package. The binaries you
> execute, are not linked to the debugging symbols, so, the system is not
> clever, it just does what it normally does.
>
> If and only if the application crashes, drkonqui will start gdb, and gdb
> will use the information in /usr/lib/debug/.

I was wondering if KDE packages recommend (or at least suggest) 
installing -dbg packages.  In today times, when hard disk space is usually 
very cheap, it could be nice to have all the related symbols.  Maybe a note 
in Description field would be nice as well.

I will send a note to Isaac regarding this issue.

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Re: How to use -dbg packages?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El jueves, 24 de agosto de 2006 19:32, Bernd Schubert escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I need to debug kxkb and its library calls. I just tried to install
> kdebase-dbg and kdelibs-dbg, but there are no usage instructions
> in /usr/share/doc.
[...]
> Are those kde -dbg packages only for those kde call traces when an
> application crashes?

Yes.  You simply crash KDE (easy if you use KMail and IMAP) and 
drkonqui (the 
crash handler) will take advantage of installed debugging symbols in order to 
provide a more complete backtrace.

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Re: Truncated text strings in GTK applications after KDE update to 3.5.4

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 2 de agosto de 2006 21:19, Jan De Luyck escribió:
> On Tuesday 01 August 2006 11:17, Christian Schuerer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm curious if anyone experiences similar problems as me with GTK-base
> > applications after KDE update to 3.5.4.
>
> A new version of libcairo2 is due to be installed in the repository
> (1.2.0-4). It's available now in the incoming repo at
> http://incoming.debian.org/, and it seems to solve my problems with
> Gaim/Firefox.

It is enough to deactivate antialiasing fonts and activate it again, in 
KControl (KDE Control Center). Maybe it is related to cairo, but as a 
workaround it works.

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Re: Truncated text strings in GTK applications after KDE update to 3.5.4

[David Martínez Moreno]

El martes, 1 de agosto de 2006 11:36, Christian Schuerer escribió:
> On Tuesday 01 August 2006 11:17, Christian Schuerer wrote:
> > My first thought was that maybe gtk2-engines-gtk-qt causes this problem -
> > but I've purged it and removed all user-related config files and still I
> > can see all text strings in firefox.
> >
> > Has anyone the same problem? Maybe any suggestions how to fix this?
>
> Could find a related bug report and solution:
>
>   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377755
>
> Disabling and enabling antialiasing again in kde control / appearance and
> themes / fonts removed the problem.

Oh, my god, thank you very much.  I thought I was getting crazy.  In 
fact, I 
was yesterday in a hurry and interrupted several times the upgrade in order 
to get home soon, and I thought it was that.

I was in this precise moment reinstalling *every* package that I 
upgraded 
yesterday, to see if everything got fixed. :-)

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Re: Kopete 0.12 NOT in kdenetwork 3.5.4

[David Martínez Moreno]

El martes, 1 de agosto de 2006 10:34, Rafael Rodríguez escribió:
> El Martes, 1 de Agosto de 2006 01:29, Christopher Martin escribió:
> > You could always make it available somewhere
>
> Suggestions?

I can offer ftp.es.debian.org if you need space.

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Re: Misssing association for PDF?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 21 de julio de 2006 09:41, Matej Cepl escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with associating PDF for anything useful -- whether I do
> it through Control Panel or Properties of the file, KDE doesn't like it
> remembers the association and either claims that kdeinit couldn't launch
> filename.pdf or (in better cases) I get the dialog box asking me which
> application should be used for opening PDF file (and no, when I
> check "Remember to open with this application" box, it doesn't remember
> anything).
>
> I tried it with testing user and there everything worked smoothly, so I
> guess there must be something wrong with my ~/.kde. However, even when I
> removed from ~/.kde/share everything except apps, config, and wallpapers
> folders (while KDE was switched off, of course), it didn't help and the
> error was same (this time in "Which application to use?" form).
>
> I am doing research and most of my data are from Internet and many of them
> in PDF, so this is really unpleasant.
>
> Have anybody met anything so weird? Is it known bug, or is there known
> workaround?

Hello, Matej.  Could you please state a known path to reproduce your 
problem?  
I launch konqueror, then I click on a PDF, and I see an embedded KPDF inside 
konqueror showing the content.  I use unstable.

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Re: Multi-tasking

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 12:54, Anders E. Andersen escribió:
> Pretty much the only thing that comes to my mind is if you are running a
> kernel that has been compiled with the 'preemptible kernel' option.

s/with/without/

> Without a preemptible kernel, the desktop experience is not as good.

You can see if you have such kernel, if you compiled in the option for 
including the configuration in the running kernel:

If you have /proc/config:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/config |grep PREE
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT is not set

If you have a compressed one (as I do):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zcat /proc/config.gz |grep PREE
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT is not set

Mine is compiled for desktop.  Debian kernels are not (they have 
CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y and CONFIG_PREEMPT=n.

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Re: Multi-tasking

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 13:28, Frans Pop escribió:
> On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:57, David Martínez Moreno wrote:
> > That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find
> > unbelievable that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It
> > is...two years old? Three? And it makes KMail unuseable with a
> > spamassassin configured with DNS queries. :-(
>
> Do you happen to have a workaround that makes it a bit less annoying?

I was thinking of it a lot in past times, and the only workaround was 
to 
add -L to OPTIONS in /etc/default/spamassassin in order to make only local 
checks, and even then, KMail is not truly asynchronous as it is while sending 
mail, for example, so it effectively blocks the UI when checking.  Recent 
KMails behaved a bit better, but they are not yet asynchronous.

The other option that I considered, but haven't time to work in, was to 
install mpop and spamc (and probably fetchmail) as a former step, and then 
pull scanned mail from localhost.  But the real problem will be there, that 
is, KMail freezing when reading from a pipe.

The last option is learning some C++, Qt, and KDE internals, and get 
wet with 
the code.

Nothing that anybody couldn't reach with some hours of frustration and 
a fine 
sense of stubbornness.  I hope my analysis helps you.

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Re: Multi-tasking

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 28 de junio de 2006 11:50, Alejandro Exojo escribió:
> I have an Athlon 800, and when I download my email, kmail blocks
> completely, and doesn't refreshes until spamassassin finishes processing at
> least the current email, but if I switch to another application, it works
> very well.

That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find 
unbelievable 
that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It is...two years old? 
Three? And it makes KMail unuseable with a spamassassin configured with DNS 
queries. :-(

The last time I debugged the problem it was due to KMail looking every 
timeslice it has into the pipe it opens to spamassasin, not every, say, half 
a second.

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Re: KDE on AMD64

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 31 de mayo de 2006 09:20, Pierre Habouzit escribió:
> Le Mer 31 Mai 2006 08:19, Matthias Faulstich a écrit :
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > I would like to install a 64bit version for AMD of testing/etch
> > debian with X/KDE.
> > On most mirror servers, I have tried yet, there was README with an
> > entry like
> >
> > amd64 is now available on ftp.debian.org
> > 
> >
> > Please use your nearest ftp.debian.org mirror now for the etch or
> > unstable version of the amd64 port of Debian. The sarge version
> > continues to be available
> > from amd64.debian.net and its mirrors until sarge is archived.
> >
> > This one I found on
> > ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/dists/etch
> > which IS my nearest ftp.debian.org mirror.
> >
> > My actual etch amd64 installation is from
> > http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/Linux/debian/
> > but there is no X/KDE included.
> >
> > Does anyone know, where the complete amd64 etch/testing versions are
> > hosted actually?
>
> amd64 is in debian for real. you can use normal debian mirrors.

No, you are wrong, Pierre.  Refrain from speaking so fast.  If he wants 
to 
install KDE on amd64 *on etch* he will have to wait.

Since some weeks, packages from the amd64 autobuilders are injected 
into 
unstable, but you have no guarantee that they do the transition to testing 
instantly.

Currently X.Org packages in unstable are holding back the transition of 
several things to testing/etch, KDE 3.5.3 among others.  Matthias, if you are 
not in a hurry, you can wait some days to see if we are able to sort things 
up and kick X.Org into sid.  If you are, you will have to install KDE from 
AMD64 mirrors, currently 3.5.2 (not so much difference).  You will have X.Org 
6.9, by the way (6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 for those who love exactness).

I hope that it was useful.

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Re: control file: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 8 de mayo de 2006 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> /  I am using debian2.0

That is simply impossible.  You really meant Debian sarge 3.0, didn't 
you?

> As per ur suggestion I  joined Build-Depends in one line, and the same for
> Depends   .
>   Now I am getting the following error :
>
>   error: control file must have at least one binary package part
> dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.

Look, I do not know why you are trying to mangle and shred the 
debian/control
file from qalculate 0.7.2, but what is the problem using the one shipped with
sarge?:
===

Source: qalculate
Section: gnome
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Martin Waitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.1.16), cdbs, libncurses5-dev, libreadline4-dev, 
libgnome2-dev (>= 2.6.1.1-1), libgtk2.0-dev, libglade2-dev, libxml2-dev, 
libcln-dev, libgmp3-dev, libxml-parser-perl, scrollkeeper
Standards-Version: 3.6.1.0

Package: qalc
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
Suggests: qalculate
Replaces: qalculate
Description: Powerful and easy to use command line calculator
 Qalculate! is small and simple to use but with much power and versatility
 underneath.  Features include customizable functions, units, arbitrary
 precision using a one-line fault-tolerant expression entry.
 .
 This package contains the command line version of Qalculate!.

Package: qalculate
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, wget, gnuplot
Description: Powerful and easy to use desktop calculator
 Qalculate! is small and simple to use but with much power and versatility
 underneath.  Features include customizable functions, units, arbitrary
 precision, plotting, and a graphical interface (GTK+) that uses a one-line
 fault-tolerant expression entry (although it supports optional traditional
 buttons).

===

Your control file is incomplete. You need to specify a description for 
at least
one package, I guess that is the problem.

Respect the spaces in the above file before the lines below Description 
field,
and remember that the Build-Depends goes into one line (I do not know if 
SquirrelMail
will mangle my message; probably will do).

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Re: control file: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 8 de mayo de 2006 11:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> Hi
> to all
>
>   I am sending my control file with attachment .   I am getting the
> following error :
>
> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error : syntax error in control file debian/
> control at line
>11 : line with unknown format (not field colon value )
>dpkg- buildpackage : Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied ;aborting
> All ur help will be greatly appreciated .

Remove the first line, as it is a colon alone (in the file you sent, at 
least).  I do not see any other problem, apart of having lots of multiline 
fields (again, this is what I have seen in the attached file you sent).  You 
need a modern dpkg in order to deal with them.  The only multiline field that 
works for sure in every Debian around is Description, so try to join 
Build-Depends in one line, and the same for Depends (although I doubt a 
binary file carries *such* a huge list of manual Depends:...I think that it 
should be resolved through the use of ${shlibs:Depends} and they are just 
bogus.

As I said before, *plese* tell us which Debian release you are using 
(potato, 
woody, etch, testing...).

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Re: control file: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 8 de mayo de 2006 11:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> Hi
>  to all
>I am new to debian .  when I tried to build the package I
> getting the following error :
>  Can anybody help me  how I will resolve this error .

Could you please send your debian/control file *attached*, as simply 
pasting 
in your mail broke the long lines?

Also it would be nice if you say which version of Debian you are using.

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Re: kdm/xorg7 Xsession issue?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 5 de mayo de 2006 10:49, Robert Gomułka escribió:
> Dnia pi±tek, 5 maja 2006 10:31, Tim Ruehsen napisa³:
> I have noticed exactly the same thing.
> It was caused by newly introduced xfree86-common package, which removed
> Xsession file.
> The quickiest solution is to rename /etc/X11/Xsession.xfree86
> to /etc/X11/Xsession.
> More info can be found on google.

Or install the new x11-common package from incoming until it enters 
archive 
tonight.

http://incoming.debian.org/x11-common_7.0.17_i386.deb

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Re: unstable in temporal flux :)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El jueves, 4 de mayo de 2006 16:06, Lorenzo Bettini escribió:
> David Martínez Moreno wrote:
> > El viernes, 14 de abril de 2006 11:12, Florian Kulzer escribió:
> > All these questions (and probably others) are answered on the XSF
> > transition Wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7). Please give us your
> > solutions if there is no one for you. :-)
>
> Hi there
>
> I followed the advices on that page (and indeed I managed to make the
> nvidia module work thanks to it), however, while on my desktop
> everything works fine, on my laptop it does not: I cannot run startx as
> a standard user (while I can as root), since I get this error:
>
> Fatal server error:
> Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log ..)
>
> can anybody help please?
>
> I think this is the actual problem (I couldn't start any session from
> kde, and so I tried to run startx manually and got this...)

Strange, I upgraded yesterday from 6.8.2 to 7.0 and it went smoothly, I 
did 
not have to make anything.

Could you please if this binary has the same permissions?:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ls -l `which X`
-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 18360 abr 28 06:23 /usr/bin/X

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Re: unstable in temporal flux :)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El jueves, 4 de mayo de 2006 16:34, Curt Howland escribió:
[...]
> Oh, and somehow my directory listings have gotten scrambled, all the
> caps prior to all the lower case. Does anyone remember what to delete
> to free up the locals? I'm too lazy to go looking through the backlog
> of postings... :^)

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Re: kmail and sent-mail folder

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 3 de mayo de 2006 14:00, Derek Broughton escribió:
> Alejandro Exojo wrote:
> > You can check it easily running "KDE_LANG=en_US kmail" in a console.
>
> ooh!  Thanks for that Alejandro.  It should work the opposite way, too, for
> those of us who only know the English but want to help someone who uses a
> different language.

You should install kde-i18n-LANGUAGE (i.e. kde-i18n-es) and launch 
kmail with 
KDE_LANG=whatever.

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Re: Dead keys not working in KDE

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 19 de abril de 2006 00:22, Matej Cepl escribió:
> I have been told (see Debian bug# 347690 -- Czech keyboard was totally
> scr..ed up in the first 6.9.* release of Debian XOrg) that KDE and
> OpenOffice are using much more advanced IM from Xorg than Gnome and Mozilla
> (which is GTK+ based), which do everything themselves (libpango?).

In fact, I remember applying a patch from you in order to fix some cz 
keyboard map...is it wrong, yet?

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Re: Request for accessing LocalXserver

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 17 de abril de 2006 14:14, Gnaneswar Devuni escribió:
> hi,
> I am unable to access  xserver through Remote login todo a xwindows
> programs. In local server I created my  user name xyz in home like this
> /home/xyz. From my windows If i writes the Qt Linux programs to
> develop some GUI Applications I am able to connect to the
> remote Local Xserver using FileZilla  which has Debian linux and I am
> getting compilation and object file also but iam unable to see the output
> windows .After giving the object file for example   ./abc it is giving
> the error statementlike thisCAN NOT CONNECT TO XSERVER.   Is there
> any Xwindows need to be installed in my system ?   I am not sure about
> this.wat are the steps I need to take to get the output windows on my
> system.one more thing  If I executes My program in server iam getting
> output windows in server
>
> can any one help me regarding this issue

If you are connecting from Windows (sorry, I have not understood fully 
your 
letter), you need some X server for Windows, like X-Win32 or the Cygwin 
suite. If you are connecting from Linux, just use ssh -X servername for your 
X sessions being automatically forwarded.

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Re: unstable in temporal flux :)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 14 de abril de 2006 11:12, Florian Kulzer escribió:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Thursday 13 April 2006 06:47, Anders E. Andersen wrote:
> >>Just a small word of warning. If you have a nice working unstable distro
> >>on your computer, maybe now isn't the best time to upgrade it. x11r7 is
> >>entering unstable, and it is causing a few minor hickups..
> >
> > s/minor hickups/death to nvidia drivers if you upgrade
>
> Thank you, that saved me the trouble to find that out myself. As it is,
> I am having enough fun with my laptop, which I used as a guinea pig for
> the upgrade: The xorg i810 driver of my graphics card boldly claims in
> the log that DRI is enabled, but glxinfo and glxgears beg to differ. On
> the other hand, the synaptics driver is broken according to the log
> file, but the touchpad still works.

All these questions (and probably others) are answered on the XSF 
transition 
Wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7). Please give us your solutions if 
there is no one for you. :-)

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Re: seg fault and panic after upgrading to kde 3.5.1 in dapper

[David Martínez Moreno]

El jueves, 2 de febrero de 2006 15:46, Bas Spitters escribió:
> dear list,
>
> After upgrading to kde 3.5.1 in kubuntu dapper and restarting I get:
> uncompressing linux
> segmentation fault
> (10x ?)
> segmentation fault
> 0segmentation fault   (notice the 0)
>
> and more panic.
>
> Could this be caused by the upgrade? I am surprised, but it's the only
> explanation I have.
>
> What can I do now, except from a complete reinstall (to Breezy!) ? :-(

First, you could post to an Ubuntu list instead of a Debian one. This 
list is 
about issues related to KDE in Debian.

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Re: Startup problem on fresh KDE 3.5 install

[David Martínez Moreno]

El martes, 17 de enero de 2006 20:34, Curt Howland escribió:
> On 1/17/06, David Martínez Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We were aware of it. As far as I can tell, this bug was fixed
> > with 6.9.dfsg.1-4.
>
> I did a completely fresh install of Sid yesterday, without doing any
> configuration by hand, and KDE came up just fine.
>
> Just another datapoint.

Hello, Curt. Thank you for the report.

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Re: Startup problem on fresh KDE 3.5 install

[David Martínez Moreno]

El martes, 17 de enero de 2006 14:17, Rigo Wenning escribió:
> Last week I installed a fresh debian sid and the x11-common in
> 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 does not contain the necessary files. I guess the maintainer
> simply forgot to include them into the package. If upgrading from an
> existing 6.8.2, one wouldn't notice the difference as the
> /etc/init.d/x11-common would be maintained from the older version.
>
> So yes, it is debian unstable, but sometimes for not so technical reasons
> ;)
>
> BTW, I found no Bugreport related to this. Is it worthwhile?

We were aware of it. As far as I can tell, this bug was fixed with 
6.9.dfsg.1-4.

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Re: Konsole root session ignores bash completion

[David Martínez Moreno]

El jueves, 12 de enero de 2006 05:11, Alex Nordstrom escribió:
> For some reason, when starting a root shell in Konsole from the Sessions
> menu, this setting is ignored. Other session types work as expected,
> and if one issues su from the root session (effectively starting a root
> shell within the root shell), things are fine too.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?

Me. I think that it is due that default konsole is not launched with -l 
flag, 
that is, to act like a login shell, loading startup scripts and so on. Your 
"su -" is working because you specify specifically with '-' that you want to 
read such files.

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Re: kmail prefix folder

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 12 de Enero de 2006 00:14, Xavier escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I've just upgraded kde to 3.5 and I have problems with kmail.
>
> Before that, I was using the prefix "Mail" but now this option doesn't
> exist anymore. My folders looks like that now :
>
> +Account
>
> |-INBOX
> |+Mail
> |
>  |-Folder1
>  |-Folder2
>  |-Folder3
>
> How can I modify kmail options to make it look like before?
>
> I've read some posts about this, but, in fact, I don't have understand
> anything. Can someone help me?

I understand that you are speaking about...IMAP?

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Re: Updating my system

[David Martínez Moreno]

El miércoles, 7 de diciembre de 2005 05:57, Richard Wegner escribió:
> Hi there,
>
> I recently tried to update my system and this is what I get:
[...]
> 
> I have no idea what to do now?  I just want to upgrade my system..
>
> Currently I have Debian 3.1 UNSTABLE version (I prefer it that way
> actually).

Then this is not a good time to upgrade your system to current sid if 
you do 
not know what is going on with such a message.

Due to another C++ global change, a lot of C++ libraries are again 
affected. 
Do you remember the last C++ ABI havoc? More or less this is the same, but 
probably it will be much shorter. Simply relax and wait another week to 
upgrade. You do not *really* need the latest sid. Believe me. :-)


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Re: applications on login

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 14 de noviembre de 2005 09:30, roberto escribió:
> hello
> i'd like to automatically start on login some applications when i
> begin my kde session, like Yahoo! Messenger, Skype, Mozilla,
> KOrganizer etc;
> i'm currently using KDE 3.3 options: "save session on logout" and when
> i start again my kde session i find almost everything as i left it
> out, except for some applications like those i wrote before; now some
> questions:
> 1. what do you suggest to solve this issue?

The easiest way is upgrade to KDE 3.4 ;-). I had the same problem with 
Firefox until 3.4, when my FF was restored on login. This, combined with 
SessionSaver extension, brings FF almost in the same state as you left.

You can use the hint provided by Ulrich in 3.3.

> 2. how can i know if there exists a upper limit for the number or
> dimension of applications running such that they can be correctly
> saved on logout? maybe kde does an automatic "cut"  if i am using too
> much memory when i logout, before saving my session? currently, i do
> not use beyond 180MB of memory

Applications are not saved "a la" Windows, i.e., the applications are 
properly finished, and then reloaded with initial parameters in order to 
mimic the final state.

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Re: kpdf broken in kde 3.4.2?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El viernes, 11 de noviembre de 2005 01:11, Tim Folger escribió:
> I just upgraded my sid installation to kde 3.4.2 and xorg, and nearly
> everything is working perfectly except kpdf. When I try to use it, files
> never completely load, and my computer goes into overdrive. Kghostview, on
> the other hand, works fine. Is this a known issue?

Maybe removing ~/.kde/share/apps/kpdf/ will help you.

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Re: no korganizer alarms

[David Martínez Moreno]

El martes, 25 de octubre de 2005 16:46, roberto escribió:
> > If it is running, have you disabled reminders (RMB menu on the system
> > tray icon)?
>
> sorry i did not find any RMB menu in the system tray but probably that
> is what i already said before

RMB stands for "Right Mouse Button". So Reinhold meant to click on the 
icon 
with the RMB in order to display the KOrganizer menu.

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Re: KDE "Run Command" won't start xterm

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 19 de Octubre de 2005 12:24, Reinhold Kainhofer escribió:
> On Wednesday 19 October 2005 11:52, Børre Gaup wrote:
> > Vuossárga, golggotmánu 17. b.  2005 17:11, Mathijs Romans čálii:
> > > Does anyone know why I can't open an xterm from the KDE "Run Command"
> > > (Alt+F2) since upgrading to KDE 3.4?
> > >
> > > When I open the dialog and type "xterm", even the correct icon appears
> > > (a gear), but when I press enter, an error message appears: "KDEInit
> > > could not lanch '/usr/bin/xterm'. To check the path I run "echo $PATH >
> > > test" in "Run Command", after which:
> > > $ cat test
> > > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
> > >
> > > so it should be able to find /usr/bin/X11/xterm, right?
> >
> > Absolutely.
>
> No, not necessarily. The minicli (Alt+F2) uses the environment variables of
> the kdeinit process (which one of the first processes that are started when
> you log into KDE) to find and execute applications, while executing "echo
> $PATH > test" executes a shell (which sources the appropriate .bashrc or
> tcshrc or cshrc files) and in that shell executs the echo.
> So, the "echo $PATH" might have different environment variables than
> minicli uses. If you add /usr/bin/X11 in .bashrc, you might want to do it
> in ~/.kde/env/*.sh instead.

This will not be necessary in the near time, as the new xterm package 
in 
experimental (204-0pre1) is splitted from X.Org and finally moves xterm 
to /usr/bin/xterm. :-)

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Re: KMail hangs on Send

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Lunes, 3 de Octubre de 2005 01:51, Brendon Lloyd Higgins escribió:
> Ack! Whenever I try to send a message in KMail (3.4.2-2, Sid) the whole
> program freezes, both the composer window and the main window. This happens
> both for the "Send Now" and "Send Later" actions, but it doesn't happen for
> the "Save to Drafts" action.
>
> I've tried nuking .kde/share/apps/kmail and .kde/share/config/kmailrc and
> kmail.eventsrc, neither of which fixed the problem. I've tried removing the
> proxy from the control panel settings with no luck. I've tried changing
> some things in the STMP server config section in KMail (using detected
> settings). Nothing works!
>
> Any chance something in my Mail dir is fried? What should I look for? Any
> other ideas?

What about a strace on KMail PID and/or tcpdump in order to see the 
traffic?

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Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 28 de Septiembre de 2005 15:24, Rigo Wenning escribió:
> I complained about this a long time ago to KMail developers. KMail does
> not store the metadata (Flags and the like) back into the file, but
> only in the index files. (For some performance reason, but Mutt is
> faster and does it)
>
> Now once touched with Mutt, Mutt writes back the metadata into the mbox,
> the KMail indexes are corrupt and one loses all the flags (read-replied
> deleted, etc). I don't know if this is also true for the
> maildir-format, but KMail is definitely locking in the user with this
> behavior. If you only have a terminal, you can't read your mail remote.
> The only way out is using IMAP and accessing it from different clients.

No, it changes the filenames, as far as I know:

-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender  1469 sep 18  2002 1032160529.8617.MYBT:2,RS
-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender  2083 sep 18  2002 1032370719.16260.amNs:2,S
-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender  2527 ene 17  2003 1032970004.13325.X1L8:2,S
-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender  2035 abr 28  2003 1051531899.16760.dQzI:2,S
-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender  2444 sep 17  2003 1052062900.16760.DkV0:2,S
-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender  3111 oct 15  2004 1097478594.6170.ZTHEL:2,S
-rw-rw-r--  1 ender ender 10272 jul 26 16:20 1122387654.3012.qLs7u:2,S

See the stuff added at the end. With it you can recreate the state of 
your 
folder without problem.

I changed all my KMail folders to Maildir format a couple of years ago 
in 
order to avoid corruption.

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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 12 de septiembre de 2005 17:19, Giacomo Lacava escribió:
> In my experience, fakeroot is broken and rarely works at all, so I
> rely on sudo and I'm happy with it. I don't run hardened webservers
> though, and the packages are built on the same machine I will install
> them on.

Hello, Giacomo. I do not know your experience, but my experience is 
building 
packages as Debian maintainer during 4 years. I maintain several packages. 
And this means a *lot* of packages (given that we usually build other 
packages for NMUs, or backports for our own use).

fakeroot did not manage to build only one package in this time: 
mozilla. Its 
build system was broken, and it was needed to build as root (due to a some 
file opertaion only able to do as root, if I recall right). So please do not 
spread false information. ;-)

And it is not only my word. In the Debian Developer's Reference:

 A.Overview of Debian Maintainer Tools
 A.1.  Core tools
 A.1.1. `dpkg-dev'
 A.1.2. `debconf'
 A.1.3. `fakeroot'


fakeroot is a core tool for Debian developers.

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Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose

[David Martínez Moreno]

El lunes, 12 de septiembre de 2005 00:26, Giacomo Lacava escribió:
[...]
> from scratch thanks to the magical dpkg-* tools:
>
> apt-get source kompose-some-version
> cd kompose-some-version
> dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo -D && cd ..
> dpkg -i kompose-some-version.deb

You should not use sudo. The build would be running as root and that is 
completely unacceptable. The right command to build a package is:

dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (I have never used -D, but it is your election).

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Re: Successfull upgrade to 3.4.2

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 7 de Septiembre de 2005 19:39, Squarris escribió:
> Does anyone know when I can install the updated KDE directly from
> unstable? or is this still a long way off?

Depends on what things you use. I think that most of KDE has been 
upgraded,
konversation has migrated, for example, but KOffice not. I have the following
packages removed until proper recompilation:

rc  kcheckgmail 0.5.3a-1  KDE systray application to check GMail 
accounts
rc  koffice-libs1.3.5-4   common libraries and binaries for the KDE 
Office Suite
rc  kompare 3.3.2-3   a KDE GUI for viewing differences between 
files
rc  kpresenter  1.3.5-4   a presentation program for the KDE Office 
Suite
rc  kspread 1.3.5-4   a spreadsheet for the KDE Office Suite
rc  kwirelessmonitor0.5.91-1  wireless interface monitor for KDE systray
rc  kword   1.3.5-4   a word processor for the KDE Office Suite
rc  openoffice.org-kde  1.1.4-3   KDE UI Plugin and KDE File Picker for 
OpenOffice.org

I hope that this helps.

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Re: Sudden logouts (was: Just wondering...)

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 18 de Agosto de 2005 23:27, Anders Breindahl escribió:
> On Wednesday 17 August 2005 15:55, Richard Wegner wrote:
[...]
> I have no idea, but I seem to replicate the problem. I was just doing some
> work around the house, having xmms running on a net radio. Suddenly the
> music stops, and I off course blame the net radio.
>
> However, when I return to my system, I see that I've been logged out. I am
> not exactly sure of the time it happened, but in the syslog this entry
> seems suspicious:
>
> Aug 18 23:04:23 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant
> device at :00:00.0.
> Aug 18 23:04:23 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at
> :00:00.0 into 1x mode
> Aug 18 23:04:23 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at
> :01:00.0 into 1x mode
> Aug 18 23:04:24 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode
>
> Does something like this happen to you, Richard?

Those sudden logout are mostly due to your X Window System crashing, 
and 
given that xdm/kdm is respawning, a new instance of xdm/kdm is launched and 
you see the log-in screen. Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log,

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Re: Protocolo devices en konqueror

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Lunes, 1 de Agosto de 2005 17:04, Francisco J. Bejarano escribió:
> Hola
>
> Tengo un problema con konqueror, hace un par de dias que me ha dejado de
> funcionar la parte de dispositivos. Me dica el siguiente error cuando
> desplego los dispositivos:
>
> Protocolo no soportado
> devices:/
>
> He reinstalado konqueror pero nada, ¿sabeis que tengo que cambiar en la
> configuracion para que me vuelva a usar dicho protocolo? o que tengo que
> instalar?

Translation:

> In konqueror, since two days ago, the devices part is not working anymore:
>
> Protocol not supported
> devices:/
>
> I have reinstalled konqueror, but to no avail.  Do you know what do I have
> to do for having again my devices:/ URLs? 

Francisco, this is an English-speaking list. Please redirect your 
questions 
in Spanish to debian-user-spanish, or make them in English.

Francisco, debian-kde es una lista de correo para KDE *en inglés*. Si 
no 
sabes o puedes expresarte en él, te recomiendo debian-user-spanish para hacer 
tus preguntas.

Un saludo/Best regards,


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Re: SV: Repairing a broken KDE on Debian Unstable

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 28 de Julio de 2005 11:13, Riviere Informatique SARL escribió:
>  Thanks for your feedback, Anders, but

*Please* avoid sending HTML mail to the list. Either send plain text or 
both, 
but *never* only HTML.

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Re: DVD Authoring

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 27 de Julio de 2005 16:56, Riviere Informatique SARL escribió:
> I've used k3b plenty on Debian for burning my own video's on DVD.
> Since my KDE is now broken (On Debian unstable) I can't run it and
> check, but it worked fine for a long long time.

It is completely possible to have KDE 3.4.1 now in unstable. Simply you 
need 
some manual massage in dselect and voilá! Either, you can have KDE 3.3 in 
unstable, again with some holding in key packages. There is some instructions 
in a post by Adeodato Simó two days ago in this same list. Browse the 
archives for more information.


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Re: Problem with windows-key

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 20 de Julio de 2005 20:09, bxuefeng escribió:
> On 16:47 Wed 20 Jul , David Martínez Moreno wrote:
> > Mmmm...kcontrol, Accesibility and whatever, Keyboard layout, Xkb
> > Options, near the end: Alt/Win key behaviour.
> >
> > Change it from none to Associate Meta to Win key, for example. This way
> > you might use shortcuts associated to Win key (i.e. Win-number to switch
> > desktops, as James said).
>
> Thanks for the tip. The reason I want win-key enabled is that I want
> that key brings up Desktop Menu.
>
> Is there any way to do it?

I think that there is another option like "Use Win key to bring KDE 
Menu" or 
something in the same menu.

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Re: bluedeath effect

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 21 de Julio de 2005 16:23, Rigo Wenning escribió:
> I can confirm that KDE is getting slower and slower, also with a
> relative fast machine, though not as fast as yours. I haven't
> experienced the hangs that would need a complete reboot, but I had
> freezes in 3.3.2 and sid. Now working with the alioth packages and a
> sid before the gcc-4 transition works, but still could be optimized a
> lot.
>
> I suspect the lack of cooperations between KDE and fontconfig to be the
> origin of the issue. Mostly, delays were cost by some app waiting for
> some font before falling back to some other value. I haven't managed to
> fix the issue so far. If you use russian truetype fonts, it seems to be
> even more error prone.

Have you tried to run 'fc-cache -f' as root?

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Re: Problem with windows-key

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 20 de Julio de 2005 16:28, bxuefeng escribió:
> On 12:36 Wed 20 Jul , David Martínez Moreno wrote:
> > El Martes, 19 de Julio de 2005 17:26, bxuefeng escribió:
> > > win-key does not work for me here either. I am using kde 3.4.1 and in
> > > my XF86Config-4, the keyboard is pc104. I did what you suggested above:
> > > to make driver from keyboard to kbd but win-key still can't work.
> > >
> > > Could anyone hint me on how to make win-key back to work again?
> >
> > Maybe pc105 will do the trick?
>
> I tried that in both xfree86 and xorg but nothing changed.
>
> How did you configure your keyboard? I am using us keyboard layout and just
> followed default configuration process. Are there other things I missed?

Mmmm...kcontrol, Accesibility and whatever, Keyboard layout, Xkb 
Options, 
near the end: Alt/Win key behaviour.

Change it from none to Associate Meta to Win key, for example. This way 
you 
might use shortcuts associated to Win key (i.e. Win-number to switch 
desktops, as James said).

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Re: Problem with windows-key

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Martes, 19 de Julio de 2005 17:26, bxuefeng escribió:
> > > On Friday 15 July 2005 17:46, Roman Kreisel wrote:
> > > Well... i just found out: It wasn't a kde-problem but an X.Org-Problem.
> > > I changed from "driver \"keyboard\"" to "driver \"kbd\"" and everything
> > > works fine now.
>
> win-key does not work for me here either. I am using kde 3.4.1 and in my
> XF86Config-4, the keyboard is pc104. I did what you suggested above: to
> make driver from keyboard to kbd but win-key still can't work.
>
> Could anyone hint me on how to make win-key back to work again?

Maybe pc105 will do the trick?

Best regards,


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Re: Problem with windows-key

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Viernes, 15 de Julio de 2005 18:10, Roman Kreisel escribió:
> On Friday 15 July 2005 17:46, Roman Kreisel wrote:
>
> Well... i just found out: It wasn't a kde-problem but an X.Org-Problem. I
> changed from "driver \"keyboard\"" to "driver \"kbd\"" and everything works
> fine now.

Hello, Roman. Could you elaborate more on this subject? I mean, which 
is the 
difference between those two drivers?

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Re: kde 3.4.1 and libglu1-xorg

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 13 de Julio de 2005 17:13, Jean-Damien Durand escribió:
> DM >  You are running experimental + sid. Period. You get what you deserve.
> Definitely [smiles]!  Damn this is not a quite period with c++ abi + xorg.
> No pb at all; that was just for information; I trust packagers and think
> they deserve holidays btw!

Definitely! :-) X.Org and KDE packagers, IMHO, are among the best 
maintainers.

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Re: kde 3.4.1 and libglu1-xorg

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 13 de Julio de 2005 15:14, Jean-Damien Durand escribió:
> I wonder. Nobody having trouble with libglu1-xorg that replaces
> xlibmesa-glu?

We will try again...

You are running experimental + sid. Period. You get what you deserve.

Sid is currently in the middle of severe transitions. If you do not 
have 
enough experience to run sid distribution, attach to testing. It is not the 
safest place in the world, but it is probably safer than experimental KDE 
packages and the bleeding-edge X.Org.

Another option is to put offending packages to be upgraded simply in 
hold 
(like me) until the transition take effect.

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Re: KDE 3.4

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Martes, 12 de Julio de 2005 22:10, Matej Cepl escribió:
> Charles de Miramon wrote:
> > I'm using the xorg synaptics driver packaged on
> > http://debian.linux-systeme.com
>
> And could I ask for the content of your section "Input Device", driver
> "synaptics" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please? I have tried to make it work
> yesterday for couple of hours, and absurdly the results were even worse
> than when I use just plain PS/2 driver.

Hello, Matej. Here you have my touchpad section from the xorg.conf file:

Section "InputDevice"
  Driver"synaptics"
  Identifier"Touchpad"
  Option"Device""/dev/psaux"
  Option"Protocol"  "auto-dev"
  Option"LeftEdge"  "1700"
  Option"RightEdge" "5300"
  Option"TopEdge"   "1700"
  Option"BottomEdge""4200"
  Option"FingerLow" "25"
  Option"FingerHigh""30"
  Option"MaxTapTime""180"
  Option"MaxTapMove""220"
  Option"VertScrollDelta" "100"
  Option"MinSpeed"  "0.12"
  Option"MaxSpeed"  "0.18"
  Option"AccelFactor" "0.0020"
  Option"SHMConfig" "on"
#  Option   "Repeater"  "/dev/ps2mouse"
EndSection

and the line marked with <<<:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"  "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Touchpad"  "AlwaysCore"  <<< This line
Option  "DontZap"   "true"
EndSection

I hope that this helps. Best regards,


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Re: Where can I learn KMail's API?

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Miércoles, 6 de Julio de 2005 15:29, Bob Tilley (AT&T) escribió:
> Spam has become too much for me.  I want to only receive e-mail from
> approved senders. I would like to create a white-list plugin for KMail.
>
> Where can I learn the API for KMail?

Probably the KMail's DCOP interface will serve to your purpose. You can 
find 
lots of information in http://kmail.kde.org and http://developer.kde.org.

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Re: KDE directory navigation freeze problem

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 30 de Junio de 2005 18:43, Jonathan Kaye escribió:
> Hi Ender,
> You're the man! I hadn't noticed if anything was sucking up all my cpu
> but I do recall seeing famd running. I do a ps -A whenever it happens
> hoping to notice some rogue process. What kind of daemon is famd anyway
> (I assume it's a daemon)? I notice that it's not running now and I'm
> doing all my ordinary stuff. This could be the culprit.

Hello, Jonathan. I am happy to hear that! I encountered sometimes this 
error. 
For the (possible) solution and several discussion about this, read 
http://bugs.debian.org/252896.

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Re: KDE directory navigation freeze problem

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 30 de Junio de 2005 17:19, Jonathan Kaye escribió:
> Hi all,
> This is a strange one. I've googled around and haven't found it
> mentioned before. I'm running KDE 3.3.2 on Debian Etch 2.6.8-2-386 but
> the problem predates the Sarge -> Etch transition so it's not an Etch
> issue. I use KDE exclusively and it purrs along for long periods of time
> (3 days to a week, sometime even 2 weeks) with no problems. Then
[...]

Hello, Jonathan. Have you seen if famd sucks all the CPU in this cases? 
Easy 
to see with a top.

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Re: Kde-KNotify Problem

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Jueves, 23 de Junio de 2005 04:59, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier escribió:
> Thanks David,
>   Couldn't have done it without yor help.  The problem was solved by
> removing .kde/* and .kderc from my /home/user/ dir.  It also made my
> numeric keypad start working again.
> And I presume that it's not necessary to copy the backup .kde/* and
> .kderc files back to /home/user/ or is it.
> Would appreciate one last comment on this,ie., am I losing any
> functionality or just configuration info by not
> copying them back.

Matej did very well. There is nothing else to say. Upgrades are not 
guaranteed to work between versions. KDE people do their best to ensure 
smooth upgrades, but you know, we the users are *really* skilled to find the 
exact configuration to break the upgrade. :-)

As Matej said, there is a lot of information in the .kde/. I would die 
if I 
had to make again my 38 mail filters, or configure again KMail (shortcuts, 
colors, and so on). There are people used to do that all the time, but not 
me.

I hope to have helped you.

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Re: KGhostView

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Lunes, 27 de Junio de 2005 15:53, Geoff Bagley escribió:
> I have been using KGhostView for some time now,  testing and printing
> out home-spun
> postscript mapping programmes,  and also down-loaded .pdf files.
>
> Recently however, either after an apt-get upgrade or perhaps one of my
> very infrequent re-boots,
> an annoying fault has appeared.
>
> The first phase of KGhostView (and similar progs)  is to display the
> postscript image.
> This is ruined by a dominant back-ground pattern of little black triangles.

Could you please indicate which version of KGhostview do you use?

Maybe an upgrade to KDE 3.4.1 will fix your problems, because of 
KGhostview 
being fixed or the mere existance of KPDF, a superior viewer for PDFs.

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Re: Gnome imperialism

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Viernes, 24 de Junio de 2005 15:35, Rigo Wenning escribió:
> This is now the n-th time:
>
> I wanted to upgrade my KDE 3.4-pre to 3.4.1. I open aptitude, update the
> packages list after having changed the sources list to alioth
> 3.4.1-location.
>
> Now I tell aptitude to upgrade and it removes ALL KDE and installs all
> Gnome. What is the magic dependency program that I have to remove to
> stop this implicit gnome imperialism? I mean Gnome/KDE should run
> together and not fight each other. Is this too difficult to express in
> the deb package-format? The message in aptitude is quit funny:
> "Packages being removed because they are no longer used"

Hello, Rigo. Please send to the list your output.

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Re: Kde-KNotify Problem

[David Martínez Moreno]

El Martes, 21 de Junio de 2005 19:43, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier escribió:
> Background-After an apt-get dist-upgrade from woody to sarge-stable
> encountered many dependency issues.
> Xserver-xfree86, kdm and many others were not installed.  Ater manually
> installing xserver-xfree86, kdm and the
> kde package files and getting X started, I've these unresolved issues:
[...]
> I would most appreciate any explanation of what's happened here and how
> I might fix it.  As a newbie, I'm at the limit
> of my debugging ability and need some help to proceed.  Thanks in
> advance for your consideration.

Hello, Leonard. Please back up your .kde/ and .kderc, remove them and 
reboot. 
Maybe it is an upgrade problem with incompatible configurations.

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KMail behaviour is weird.

[David Martínez Moreno]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

 Hello. Yesterday I upgraded to KDE 3.3 (I think many of us should have stayed 
at 3.2 :-), and apart from a few flitches in KMail (some fonts were not set 
up right), I I am concerned by the fact that cursor keys are not working 
well, for moving up and down. Equally weirdly behave PageUp/Down keys, and my 
one-key shorcuts.

 I have to insist several times or keep pressed the key in question to get the 
desired effect.

 Is this biting you? I need to know if this is reproducible for filing a bug 
in the BTS.

 Thank you very much,


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Re: When is the K-Menu going to lose the Debian submenu?

[David Martínez Moreno]

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El Sábado, 10 de Julio de 2004 10:45, Chris Cheney escribió:
> This will be fixed once Debian switches its menu system over to the
> freedesktop menu.

Hello, Chris.

Are there any plans for the transition? Is it intented to take place 
before 
Sarge?

If I recall correctly, the last time it was discussed was about Dec 
2003, see 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/12/msg00258.html. What I extracted 
from the thread was that Chris Lawrence was rewriting (*was*, not *is*) the 
menu system and that will permit to adopt freedesktop.org menu entries, but 
it seems that only Bill Allombert is currently working on the menu system.

Do you know anything else about this issue?

Thanks,


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Re: Klipper hangs

[David Martínez Moreno]

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El Domingo, 11 de Julio de 2004 09:28, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
escribió:
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Corwin wrote:
> > When I try to pop up klipper it hangs.  Not only that, but if I invoke
> > it with a keystroke it blocks all keyboard input until I use the mouse
> > to start a process manager and kill it.  If I use the mouse to invoke it
> >   then all mouse input is blocked and most keyboard input too, but I can
> > get to a different virtual console and kill it from there.
> >
> > This is happening on two different machines, both updated to KDE 3.2.2
> > and both running sarge (testing).  The only bug I found that seems
> > relevant is 83659, "Prevent empty clipboard" option makes klipper hang.
> >   However I turned that option off and klipper still hangs.
> >
> > Has anybody else seen this?
>
> Yes, Klipper is behaving quite strangely here as well - sometimes when I
> click on it it will sometimes block the mouse for an unforseable time. I
> usualy press CTRL-ALT and the mouse is miraculously released.

Hello, Tomas. The fix for the stuck menus is not Ctrl-Alt, it is only 
Alt. I 
have completely isolated. And it is *irritating*. A lot.

I have a lot of these problems with Klipper and the main menu, and I 
remember 
a couple with OO.org, and another couple with Firefox.

I do not know if the last Alt-Tab fix in XFree4.3 (version 
4.3.0.dfsg1-6) 
will fix this:

  * Grab from XFree86 CVS (2003-08-22) a fix for the problem some window
managers have seeing Alt key release events (commonly known as the
"Alt-Tab problem").  (Closes: #254973)

I upgraded my laptop yesterday, but I have not run XFree86 since that, 
so I 
do not know if it is fixed.

Regards,


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Re: Konqueror does not work with international domain names

[David Martínez Moreno]

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El Martes, 13 de Abril de 2004 17:59, Hendrik Sattler escribió:
> What I don't like is the way Debian handles libgnutls:
> libgnutls10 - GNU TLS library - runtime library
> libgnutls7 - GNU TLS library - runtime library
> libgnutls5 - GNU TLS library - runtime library
>
> Well, it's nice to have all those versions around but I really hope they
> ftp-master will delete them when nothing depends on them anymore :-/
> E.g. exim4 changed from libgnutls5 to libgnutls7 to libgnutls10. However,
> on upgrade, the old ones didn't get deleted although only exim4 used the
> old one. That way, you have two dead lib packages around :-(
> Other packages might work fine/better by linking against a newer version
> but don't get rebuilt.
> I really hope, apt/dpkg will take care of that problem in future...

This is not an apt/dpkg task.

You are more than welcome to file a bug against ftp.debian.org after 
checking 
if libgnutls5 is not needed by anyone else:

apt-cache rdepends libgnutls5

Talking to the maintainer usually gives good results as well.

And for your machine, well, deborphan is your friend. For the most of 
the 
cases, the following is enough:

deborphan | xargs apt-get --purge -y remove  (as root)


Regards,


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Re: woody and kde

[David Martínez Moreno]

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El Domingo, 1 de Febrero de 2004 19:47, Roelof Wobben escribió:
> Hai,
>
> Yesterday i installed Debian Woody.
> I saw that KDE was a very old one.
> How can i upgrade my KDE without losing stability.

You can try the unofficial packages made by Ralf Nolden from KDE 
specifically 
targeted for Woody. They were released today:

* Debian stable (woody) (Intel i386) : 

deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main

More info at http://www.kde.org/info/3.2.php

Hope that helps you,


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Re: KDE 3.2.0 Packages

[David Martínez Moreno]

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El Martes, 3 de Febrero de 2004 19:26, Pablo de Vicente escribió:
> El Martes, 3 de Febrero de 2004 18:59, Bob Tilley (AT&T) escribió:
> > I shall parrot the most common question currently confounding the list:
> > When will Debian packages of KDE 3.2.0 be available?
>
> Today, now. They are already available. Look here:
>
> http://www.kde.org/info/3.2.php

Please be specific (and right for the vast majority of us).

As can be read from the KDE announcement, KDE packages for Debian are 
*only* 
available for Woody release:

# Debian: (README) :

* Debian stable (woody) (Intel i386) : 
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main

This is probably the bunch of dependencies that Andreas Bauer has found 
when 
trying to install it.

For the most of us, we can stay with the unofficial KDE pre-3.2 Debian 
packages from 

http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.95/ 

till Chris release KDE 3.2 packages.

Regards,


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