Bug#394719: About bug # 394719 in Debian BTS

2010-03-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 March 2010, Olivier Vitrat wrote:
 Are you able to reproduce it with a recent version of the package ?
 If yes, which version ?

It can still be reproduced with the Lenny version of kmail. No idea about 
Squeeze. If you want to know that, you'll have to try it yourself.

 If not, can we close this old bug report ?

As it is an upstream issue anyway I have no huge problems with that.



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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 06:47:44AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem
  with the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed
  under KDE.

 No, I mean a different issue. #561902 only requires gtk. But I can still
 be wrong, there is maybe no issue. The code linked from #555162 looks
 like it is used for moz-icon:// urls, which, in turn, are heavily used
 in the default theme.

If I look at the code the BR refers to, then that looks to be protected by 
tests to see if it is running in a Gnome environment: if it's there it's 
used, if not, no problem.

I see no reason for a dependency from that, but I may be wrong.

  Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to
  try.

 Edit  Preferences  Applications, opening a downloaded file, opening
 a downloaded file containing folder, etc.

I tested it for mailto:
I was asked what application to use. kmail was not listed, so I added it 
and told it to remember that. After that iceweasel perfectly opened 
kmail's composer for me every time.

I also tried downloading a .deb, which did not yet have a handler. In the 
open/save file dialog I told it to open .deb files with kpackage and to 
remember that setting. Works fine.
If I don't tell it to remember the setting, it will show the open with/save 
as dialog again.

I've checked against iceweasel 3.06 and that works identically.


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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 Could you send the output for reportbug --template xulrunner-1.9.1 on
 your machine ?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 depends on:
ii  libasound2  1.0.22-2 shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii  libatk1.0-0 1.28.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbz2-1.0  1.0.5-4  high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  libc6   2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libcairo2   1.8.8-2  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.2.20-2 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libfontconfig1  2.8.0-2  generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype62.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.3-2GCC support library
ii  libglib2.0-02.22.4-1 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.18.7-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libhunspell-1.2-0   1.2.8-6  spell checker and morphological an
ii  libjpeg62   6b-16.1  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libmozjs2d  1.9.1.8-3The Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScrip
ii  libnspr4-0d 4.8.3-1  NetScape Portable Runtime Library
ii  libnss3-1d  3.12.5-2 Network Security Service libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0   1.26.2-1 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-0  1.2.42-2 PNG library - runtime
ii  libreadline66.1-1GNU readline and history libraries
ii  libsqlite3-03.6.22-1 SQLite 3 shared library
ii  libstartup-notification 0.10-1   library for program launch feedbac
ii  libstdc++6  4.4.3-2  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-62:1.3.3-1X11 client-side library
ii  libxrender1 1:0.9.5-1X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxt6  1:1.0.7-1X11 toolkit intrinsics library
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages xulrunner-1.9.1 recommends:
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2  0.84-1 simple interprocess messaging syst
pn  libgconf2-4   none (no description available)
pn  libgnome2-0   none (no description available)
pn  libgnomeui-0  none (no description available)
pn  libgnomevfs2-0none (no description available)

xulrunner-1.9.1 suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information


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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 M... looks like I was too conservative... Let's try to demote these
 to suggests once the current version hits testing.

Cool. Thanks Mike.


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Re: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-21 Thread Frans Pop
clone 570579 -1
reassign -1 tasksel 2.81
retitle -1 iceweasel is no longer a desktop environment independent browser
thanks

(Fairly full quote because of CCs.)

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply Mike.

On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:18:09PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant
  as Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found
  together with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
  And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment.
  For systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in
  a lot of cases very much not desired.

 Except that Iceweasel has various things that break when the gnome
 libraries are not installed, such as icons for libgnomeui, and external
 handlers for libgnomevfs and libgconf (it still does broken things under
 KDE, but it actually works better than without).

I guess for the icon issue you mean #561902? I don't see any problem with 
the search engine dropdown list without libgnomeui-0 installed under KDE.

Can't tell about external handlers without knowing what exactly to try.

I'm unlikely to encounter issues myself as I run Lenny on my desktop 
systems and as I'm only a very light user of iceweasel anyway (only for 
sites that konqueror does not handle correctly).

 The only one that really isn't strictly required in the libdbus-glib
 one.

  As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge
  you to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make
  iceweasel unsuitable for default installation.
  I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for
  specific desktop environments should always be optional.

 Reality is different from theory. While Iceweasel is supposed to be DE
 independent, it really isn't. Sad reality, but still reality.

That is indeed very sad. One would hope upstreams, especially ones for 
important software such as ice*, would have more clue.

 Now, as I said, there are several things that will break if these
 libraries are not installed (note you can still prove me wrong), but
 there are things we can probably do to make things better:

 - As said above, libdbus-glib-1-2 is not strictly necessary.
 - IIRC, in 1.9.2, upstream switched most gnomevfs uses to gio, which is
   in glib. That may help making the dependencies lighter.
 - There are patches for better KDE integration in opensuse, but we can't
   take them as-is.

 The first two above could be worked in the squeeze time-frame. I doubt
 the latter can.

 In any case, dependencies on libgnome2-0, libgnomeui-0 and libgconf2-4
 are here to stay, IMHO. I'd go as far as saying they should be strong
 dependencies, but I allow those people that don't like gnome libraries
 and who want to shoot themselves in the foot to do it.

In that case I personally don't think we can maintain iceweasel's status as 
desktop independent browser for new installations and we'll have to 
consider removing it from the common desktop task in tasksel.
Given that the default browsers for the various desktop environments have 
become much more mature since Sarge, I don't actually see that as a big 
problem. It may even help relieve some of the pressure for CD1.
Possibly we should keep it as the default browser for XFCE and/or LXDE.

Therefore cloning to tasksel for further discussion.

I'm leaving the original report against xulrunner as I personally still do 
consider this whole issue a regression when compared to earlier Debian 
releases, but I appreciate that your hands are tied. I hope that things 
will improve.

Thanks,
FJP


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Fwd: Bug#570579: xulrunner: please reconsider recommends for GNOME packages

2010-02-19 Thread Frans Pop
FYI

Please follow up to the BR (#570579) if you have anything to add to it.

Cheers,
FJP

--  Forwarded Message  --
Package: xulrunner
Version: 1.9.1.8-2
Severity: important
Tags: d-i
X-Debbugs-CC: task...@packages.debian.org

I was very surprised when I upgraded a KDE system to find that xulrunner 
tried to pull in all sorts of GNOME packages. It was quite a bit of work 
to unselect everything that got pulled in through those Recommends.

I'm talking about the Recommends for:
- libdbus-glib-1-2
- libgconf2-4
- libgnome2-0
- libgnomeui-0
- libgnomevfs2-0
And the deps for those packages are far from trivial.

I guess the change was introduced in 1.9.1.6-2 with:
   Merge xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support into xulrunner-1.9.1.

But I question if the Recommends of those packages is policy compliant as 
Recommends should only be used for packages that would be found together 
with this one in all but unusual installations [1].
And that's only true for systems running a GNOME desktop environment. For 
systems running KDE the GNOME packages are not needed and even in a lot of 
cases very much not desired.

I also question the value of the Recommends: if a user is running GNOME 
they will all be installed already anyway!

As Debian Installer now installs Recommends by default and the desktop 
tasks installs iceweasel for all desktops, this means that all those GNOME 
packages would get installed on KDE desktop systems by default, 

As iceweasel is supposed to be desktop environment independent, I urge you 
to reconsider this change. IMO the current Recommends make iceweasel 
unsuitable for default installation.
I also feel that for packages like iceweasel integration support for 
specific desktop environments should always be optional.

Cheers,
FJP

[1]http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps
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Bug#542125: ksysguardd: Blocks directories under /proc/acpi

2009-08-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 18 August 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote:
 Thanks for your patch. It has been applied upstream and will at least
 land in debian with the upload of kde 4.4.

Cool. I'd not expected that.

Note that I did not check whether it does the same thing for other 
directories (other than /proc/acpi). That might be worth doing.

 I'm not sure this issues is important enough to warrant a stable
 update.

Probably not unless you can combine it with something else. I think it is 
worth doing if you have to do a stable update of kdebase anyway.
I think you could even get away with including it in a security update, as 
it affects the system's overall integrity.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#542125: ksysguardd: Blocks directories under /proc/acpi

2009-08-17 Thread Frans Pop
Package: ksysguardd
Version: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

Today I needed to reload the kernel module thermal and was surprised to
find that after the reload the directory /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ empty
was. Some extra testing showed the same happened for the modules fan
and battery.

Needless to say that having /proc directories for such common ACPI
modules empty is not desirable.

I also noticed that after module removal there still existed an empty
directory /proc/acpi/thermal_zone. So my theory was that the old dir was
masksing the newly created one.
A look at the kernel source showed that the likely explanation for this
was that some process was holding the directory open, thereby blocking
the full release of the directory created by the old module.

# lsof | grep /proc/acpi/ | awk '{print $1 $5 $9}'
acpid REG /proc/acpi/event
ksysguard DIR /proc/acpi/battery
ksysguard DIR /proc/acpi/fan
ksysguard DIR /proc/acpi/thermal_zone

So, the culprit is ksysguardd.

And the attached trivial patch fixes the issue.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.2
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.31-rc6 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages ksysguardd depends on:
ii  libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 0.6.23-3lenny1 Avahi Apple Bonjour compatibility 
ii  libc6 2.7-18 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libsensors4   1:3.0.2-1+b2   library to read temperature/voltag

ksysguardd recommends no packages.

ksysguardd suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information
diff -Nru kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Linux/acpi.c kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Linux/acpi.c
--- kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Linux/acpi.c	2005-10-10 17:04:31.0 +0200
+++ kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Linux/acpi.c	2009-08-17 23:44:15.0 +0200
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@
 		  AcpiBatteryNum++;
 	  }
   }
+  closedir ( d );
 }
 
 
@@ -270,6 +271,7 @@
 			  printThermalZoneTemperatureInfo, sm);
   }
 
+  closedir ( d );
   return;
 }
 
@@ -361,6 +363,7 @@
 			  printFanStateInfo, sm);
   }
 
+  closedir ( d );
   return;
 }
 


Bug#526057: po2xml: endless loop on empty para tag

2009-04-29 Thread Frans Pop
 If the source XML file contains an empty para tag, po2xml from KDE
 4.2.2 will end up in an endless loop: the warning found empty tag
 para is printed endlessly.

Hmm. This is weird. The bug can no longer be reproduced if I rebuild the 
package using pbuilder. If I switch back to the version from the archive 
the bug is back again.

Any chance of requesting a rebuild (binNMU) of kdesdk-4.2.2 for amd64?

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#526057: po2xml: endless loop on empty para tag

2009-04-28 Thread Frans Pop
Package: poxml
Version: 4:4.2.2-1
Severity: important
Forwarded: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190974

If the source XML file contains an empty para tag, po2xml from KDE 4.2.2 
will end up in an endless loop: the warning found empty tag para is 
printed endlessly.

This is a regression as the version from KDE 3.5 handled that situation
correctly: it would print the warning once and continue to generate a 
correct translated XML file.

Setting severity important as this breaks builds of Debian's Installation 
Guide. Test case available in upstream BR.



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Bug#488728: knode: very high number of cpu wakeups

2008-07-08 Thread Frans Pop
forwarded 472054 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147944
forcemerge 472054 488728
thanks

This issue had already been reported as http://bugs.debian.org/472054.
A proposed patch is available in that report.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#472054: knode: Too many scheduling interrupts

2008-07-07 Thread Frans Pop
I've just tested knode with the (updated) patch (taken from upstream BTS) 
with current unstable (4:3.5.9-4) and it seems to work perfectly.

With knode running inside kontact wakeups on my desktop as reported by 
powertop are down from ~500 to ~150 (kontact/knode is now frequently not 
even listed anymore).

My impression is even that knode is quite a bit more responsive, but that 
may also be related to server activity. 

Interval news checking works correctly. I've also watched TCP connections 
using netstat and the Hold connection for setting for my news server is 
respected too. 

Tested with a single news server (different system on local network).

I would recommend including this patch for Lenny as it is a very 
significant improvement.

Felipe:
I assume you've been using the patch yourself as well? Anything to add?

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Bug#485655: debian-installer: The KDE images should use sudo too and configure KDE accordingly.

2008-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 485655 tasksel 2.74
thanks

On Monday 16 June 2008, Joey Hess wrote:
 It seems easier at the moment to add your code, and include it in the
 task than it does to change the default or remove the debconf use, and
 come up with a way to detect which tasks were installed[1].

Sounds good to me. I've committed the change in user-setup. Please close 
the BR with your tasksel change.

Cheers,
FJP

/me wonders what the [1] was supposed to refer to...


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Re: Bug#485655: debian-installer: The KDE images should use sudo too and configure KDE accordingly.

2008-06-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Didier Raboud wrote:
  One solution for KDE3 is to install the kdesudo package and
  to dpkg-reconfigure it to accept the usage of the kdesudo as
  drop-in replacement for kdesu. It will then use sudo.

 We can do that relatively simply by preseeding that answer to the
 correct value (if using sudo has been selected and kde is set as the
 desktop environment to install) and adding kdesudo to the kde-desktop
 task.

I've tested this and it appears to work, although the first time I somehow 
managed to crash the dcop server. I've tried both administrator mode in 
Control Center and the kuser user setup application.

My proposal would be to:
1) add the kdesudo to the Key packages in kde-desktop task
2) add a hook script in pre-pkgsel.d that does:
   if db_get passwd/root-login  [$RET = false ]  \
  db_get tasksel/desktop  [ $RET = kde ]; then
echo kdesudo kdesudo/kdesu boolean true | \
LANG=C chroot /target debconf-set-selections
   fi

This means kdesudo already has the correct debconf setting before it gets 
installed by tasksel and the diversions get added automatically on 
installation.

Alternatively we could do 2) + an apt-install in a finish-install.d hook 
script and then only if the desktop task was actually selected, but that 
would mean having to ensure that kdesudo gets included on images by 
debian-cd.

KDE team: any comments on this plan?

 Side note: I wonder how we ensure gksu is available on the first CD. It
 is only recommended by gnome-utils (pulled in by
 gnome-desktop-environment). It is not listed explicitly in either the
 gnome-desktop task or debian-cd.

Joey: care to comment on this?

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#479610: ksirc: Displays error since upgrade to perl 5.10

2008-06-13 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 479610 perl 5.10.0-9
severity 479610 normal
thanks

  Welcome to sirc version 2.211; type /help for help
 Prototype mismatch: sub main::__LONG_MAX__ () vs none at 
 /usr/lib/perl/5.10/_h2ph_pre.ph line 273.
 Constant subroutine __LONG_MAX__ redefined at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/_h2ph_pre.ph 
 line 273.
 Loading filter parser...

Reassigning to perl as this seems to be a general perl issue rather than
a bug in ksirc.

Discussed with Don Armstrong on IRC:
dondelelcaro fjp: those are just warnings; however, perl 5.10 has some weird 
problem with not 
tracking the prototypes of constants, which are defined with foo() when they're 
redefined.
dondelelcaro fjp: but yeah, it's some kind of normal/minor bug in perl
dondelelcaro fjp: it'll only show up when someone double imports a sublibrary

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Bug#485655: debian-installer: The KDE images should use sudo too and configure KDE accordingly.

2008-06-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Didier Raboud wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Didier Raboud wrote:
   I think that the KDE CD images should install and configure sudo as
   the Gnome images do.
 
  KDE images _do_ install and configure sudo exactly the same as the
  regular CD does if that option is selected in user-setup (as you can
  see if you use sudo from konsole).

 I tried to install the LennyBeta2 KDE CD1 in Qemu and disabled the
 internet access (said during the install just use the CD) and it did
 not... But I admit that this it corner-case

No, it is not a corner case; that would be a bug. Please send the syslog 
(gzipped!) of the installation. It can be found under /var/log/installer/ 
on the installed system. (No need to CC d-qt-kde for that!)

  If something similar is possible for KDE, then please let us know
  what the correct commands would be. Basically that info has to come
  from KDE users/developers.

 One solution for KDE3 is to install the kdesudo package and
 to dpkg-reconfigure it to accept the usage of the kdesudo as drop-in
 replacement for kdesu. It will then use sudo.

We can do that relatively simply by preseeding that answer to the correct 
value (if using sudo has been selected and kde is set as the desktop 
environment to install) and adding kdesudo to the kde-desktop task.


Side note: I wonder how we ensure gksu is available on the first CD. It is 
only recommended by gnome-utils (pulled in by gnome-desktop-environment). 
It is not listed explicitly in either the gnome-desktop task or 
debian-cd.


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Bug#479610: ksirc: Displays error since upgrade to perl 5.10

2008-06-10 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Ana,

On Monday 09 June 2008, you wrote:
 Do you still get that error when starting ksirc?
 It is not longer reproducible here.

The last line Unable to find SYS_gettimeofday, using LINUX default!
is gone, but I do still get the __LONG_MAX__ error.

Here's what I get today:
 Welcome to sirc version 2.211; type /help for help
Prototype mismatch: sub main::__LONG_MAX__ () vs none at 
/usr/lib/perl/5.10/_h2ph_pre.ph line 273.
Constant subroutine __LONG_MAX__ redefined at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/_h2ph_pre.ph 
line 273.
 Loading filter parser...
 Filter Parser Loaded
 Loaded KSirc.pl
 With: Super Willy Enhancements, LotR's exec
 Connecting to gandalf.fjphome.nl, port 6667...
 Doing SSL server connect...

The file _h2ph_pre.ph comes from the perl package.
The line that causes it has a comment gross hack above it.
I've no idea through what path _h2ph_pre.ph gets loaded, but it looks to me
like this could be a general perl issue and not something specific to ksirc.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#469595: ksysguard: No longer displays i2c sensor info (temp, fan)

2008-06-10 Thread Frans Pop
tags 469595 + patch
thanks

I looked into this when I first noticed the regression and had basically 
the same patch as posted by tuXXer, but got a compilation failure which I 
did not manage to solve back then.

The attached patch also solves the compilation failure. Basically: the 
first half of the patch solves the regression, the second half makes it 
compile correctly by ensuring ksysguardd gets linked against libsensors.

The second half may be unnecessary if automake is run again, but I'm not 
familiar enough with KDE packaging to know what the correct way to fix 
that is.

I also made the following changes in debian/control.

Work around current problem with xutils (#485184):
- gettext, sharutils, texinfo, xutils, kdelibs4-dev (= 4:3.5.8-5),
+ gettext, sharutils, texinfo, xutils-dev, kdelibs4-dev (= 4:3.5.8-5),

Stray comma at end of Build-Depends (very minor):
- libsensors4-dev [!kfreebsd-i386 !kfreebsd-amd64 !hurd-i386],
+ libsensors4-dev [!kfreebsd-i386 !kfreebsd-amd64 !hurd-i386]


A build using pbuilder succeeded and sensors display works again after 
installing updated ksysguard and ksysguardd debs.

Cheers,
FJP

--- kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1.orig/debian/patches/72_lmsensors.diff
+++ kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1/debian/patches/72_lmsensors.diff
@@ -0,0 +1,31 @@
+--- a/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Linux/lmsensors.c	(Revision 779545)
 b/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Linux/lmsensors.c	(Revision 779546)
+@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
+ 
+ #include lmsensors.h
+ 
+-#ifdef HAVE_LMSENSORS
++#ifdef HAVE_SENSORS_SENSORS_H
+ #include sensors/sensors.h
+ 
+ #ifndef SENSORS_API_VERSION
+@@ -293,7 +293,7 @@
+ #endif
+ }
+ 
+-#else /* HAVE_LMSENSORS */
++#else /* HAVE_SENSORS_SENSORS_H */
+ 
+ /* dummy version for systems that have no lmsensors support */
+ 
+--- a/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Makefile.in	2008-06-10 14:23:42.0 +0200
 b/ksysguard/ksysguardd/Makefile.in	2008-06-10 14:08:08.0 +0200
+@@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
+ 	$(am__DEPENDENCIES_1) $(am__DEPENDENCIES_1)
+ ksysguardd_LINK = $(LIBTOOL) --tag=CC $(AM_LIBTOOLFLAGS) \
+ 	$(LIBTOOLFLAGS) --mode=link $(CCLD) $(AM_CFLAGS) $(CFLAGS) \
+-	$(ksysguardd_LDFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) -o $@
++	$(ksysguardd_LDFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) $(LIBSENSORS) -o $@
+ DEFAULT_INCLUDES = [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ -I$(top_builddir)
+ depcomp = $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/admin/depcomp
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Bug#479610: ksirc: Displays error since upgrade to perl 5.10

2008-05-05 Thread Frans Pop
Package: ksirc
Version: 4:3.5.9-1
Severity: important

Today I upgraded to perl 5.10 and now when I start ksirc, I get:
Welcome to sirc version 2.211; type /help for help
Loading filter parser...
Filter Parser Loaded
Prototype mismatch: sub main::__LONG_MAX__ () vs none at
/usr/lib/perl/5.10/_h2ph_pre.ph line 273.
Constant subroutine __LONG_MAX__ redefined at
/usr/lib/perl/5.10/_h2ph_pre.ph line 273.
Unable to find SYS_gettimeofday, using LINUX default!
Loaded KSirc.pl

Except for that error ksirc seems to be working correctly.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.25.1 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages ksirc depends on:
ii  kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-4 core libraries and binaries for al
ii  libc6   2.7-10   GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libgcc1 1:4.3.0-4GCC support library
ii  libqt3-mt   3:3.3.8b-5   Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libstdc++6  4.3.0-4  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  perl5.10.0-9 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 

Versions of packages ksirc recommends:
ii  libio-socket-ssl-perl 1.02-1.1   Perl module implementing object or

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Bug#469595: ksysguard: No longer displays i2c sensor info (temp, fan)

2008-03-13 Thread Frans Pop
This could be well be related to this change:

kdebase (4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
  * New upstream release.
- Switch to libsensors4. (Closes: #458989)

HTH



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Bug#465028: libqt3-mt: Missing weak symbols for stat64 functions

2008-02-10 Thread Frans Pop
(CC to virtualbox maintainers as a heads-up)

virtualbox-ose is affected too (amd64):

/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox: symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox: undefined symbol: stat64

Downgrading libqt3-mt to 3:3.3.7-9 solved the issue.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Bug#462678: gs x11 device is in ghostscript-x

2008-01-27 Thread Frans Pop
clone 462678 -1
reassign -1 kghostview
retitle -1 Dependency should be updated from gs to ghostscript-x
severity -1 important
thanks

On Sunday 27 January 2008, brian m. carlson wrote:
 Ghostscript's x11 devices are in ghostscript-x.  gs-gpl and gs-esp both
 depend on both ghostscript and ghostscript-x, so there's no backward
 compatibility issue.

 It looks like kghostview depends on gs, which is a very old package
 name (it's what gs-gpl used to be called, and what gs-gpl provided), and
 what ghostscript provides now.  kghostview probably shouldn't be using
 that name anymore, and should depend on the new packages.

Thanks for the info. Installing ghostscript-x solved the issue.

I agree that gs is old, but it was still a valid dependency for Etch, so the 
transition to ghostscript should ensure validity as well.

I've analyzed the problem, and this is what happened:
- I upgraded to ghostscript without problems and got both ghostscript and
  ghostscript-x installed
- I later removed the transition packages, and for some reason removed
  ghostscript-x too (probably thinking that it was a viewer for X and thus
  not needed as I already had kghostview)

There seem to be two problems:
1) kghostview should indeed update its dependency to ghostscript-x
2) the ghostscript Provides gs is wrong because ghostscript does not
   provide the full functionality of gs: it is missing the x11 output
   device support

I'm cloning this BR to kghostview for 1).

However 2) is something that should be fixed in the new ghostscript 
packages. IMO ghostscript-x should be providing gs, gs-esp and gs-gpl, and 
not ghostscript. If that had been the case, I would not have been allowed 
to remove ghostscript-x.

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. Would it make sense for the ghostscript maintainers to do an inventory 
of which packages still depend on the (very) old packages and file BRs with 
a request to change their deps?


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Bug#437366: Unable to reproduce

2007-09-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 03 September 2007, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
 I'm unable to reproduce this. Are you still able to reproduce on
 up-to-date lenny/sid?

Yes, perfectly reproducible with up-to-date lenny.

P.S.
Please leave some context in your follow ups so I (and other who read this 
on lists) don't have to go to the BTW to know what the actual issue is... 
Suggest to either leave the title of the BR in the subject, or quote some 
relevant text from the original report (or even better, both). Thanks!

The issue here is:
! Konqueror displays the forward/next icons from info2www as black squares.
! Iceweasel displays them correctly.


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Bug#427391: kio_fish dies unexpectedly

2007-08-15 Thread Frans Pop
forwarded 427391 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123
tags 427391 + upstream confirmed
thanks

I can confirm this issue. Same happens on my amd64 box with 2.6.23-rc2 and 
I've also seen it with earlier kernels. If I reboot the same box with 
2.6.18, fish:// works fine.

Cheers,
FJP


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(Remote) command line control for juk

2007-07-06 Thread Frans Pop
Hiya,

The last few months I've been using juk to play music in my study.

One problem: I usually work on my laptop and not on the system with the 
decent sound system. So, every time I wanted to skip a song or change to 
another album, I had to grab the mouse of the other system and thus wake 
its monitor from suspend. Not ideal...

Well, we all know how to control KDE apps right? So, DCOP to the rescue!
The attached script allows you to execute all basic control commands 
remotely from the command line.

I soon noticed that one command I often use was not supported in DCOP: 
skipping to a different album in album random play mode [1].
Unacceptable! So, we now have: http://bugs.debian.org/432012.

One minor bug in juk...
The forward option does not skip to the next song from the currently 
playing one, but from the active one. This leads to somewhat strange 
behavior if you do back followed by forward. It's easy to see what's 
happening if you have the playlist open for reference.

And oh, if you want local command line control over juk, just create a 
symlink cjuk [2] to the script and use that.

Enjoy,
FJP

[1] Note that that command is not supported in the Etch version of juk.
[2] ln -s rjuk cjuk


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Re: (Remote) command line control for juk

2007-07-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 06 July 2007 22:29, Frans Pop wrote:
 The attached script allows you to execute all basic control commands
 remotely from the command line. 

Of course, just after sending the mail, you notice some errors in late 
changes. So, here's a fixed (hopefully) version.



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Re: Is there a KDE equivalent of xconsole?

2007-04-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 28 April 2007 00:44, Nick Boyce wrote:
 Actually, by coincidence I was playing with Etch kdm earlier today and
 noticed in one of the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/kdm that there's a
 command-line switch that makes kdm offer some kind of xconsole window 
 - this feature having been added by request of SuSE if I remember
 rightly.

Yes, I'm aware of that, but that is only displayed while logging in and 
still uses xconsole.

It seems this is just an app that nobody has bothered to write yet. It 
would be nice to have though, especially if it would have some filtering 
options so you could suppress certain messages.


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Is there a KDE equivalent of xconsole?

2007-04-26 Thread Frans Pop
Does anyone know of there is a decent KDE equivalent of xconsole? 
Preferably something that would minimize into the systray.

TIA,
FJP


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Re: Is there a KDE equivalent of xconsole?

2007-04-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 26 April 2007 16:59, John W. Foster wrote:
 I use konsol for this purpose. If you installed the kde desktop system

I suspect you mean konsole? That is probably the program I use most :-)
However, I'm not looking for a terminal emulator, but for something that 
will display console messages, just like xconsole does.

But thanks for your reply.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: root password

2006-11-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 08:33, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Following apt-get upgrade my i386 etch, kde 3.5 does no more recognize
 the root password (while it is recognized on terminal window).

 This occurs at least with synaptic and clock (as to the
 latter /usr/bin/kcmshell kde-clock desktop --lang en_US).

I've seen the same problem after installing a new Etch system about a 
month back. However, a recent upgrade seems to have fixed this.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: KDE (not GNOME) upon installation

2006-11-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 09 November 2006 16:47, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/09/msg01084.html
 says it's tasksel/first=kde-desktop

I've just committed a change in the installation guide to document this 
better. It will only show up after the next build.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Multi-tasking

2006-06-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:57, David Martínez Moreno wrote:
   That is the most annoying KMail feature I have seen, and I find
 unbelievable that KMail developers hadn't taken care of it yet. It
 is...two years old? Three? And it makes KMail unuseable with a
 spamassassin configured with DNS queries. :-(

Do you happen to have a workaround that makes it a bit less annoying?


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Re: Konqueror - Has the embedded media player ever played anything?

2006-04-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 10 April 2006 18:21, Felix Homann wrote:
 anytime I see the the embedded media player (kaboodle) start in
 konqeror that's all I can see. It has never played anything - no audio,
 no video, nothing! Has anybody seen it work?

Not me.


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Re: Korganizer's printed calendars do not fit on a page

2006-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:23, Alex Nordstrom wrote:
 Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:54, Gurvan Huiban wrote:
  I am trying to print Korganizer's calendars, however I have trouble
  to do so: In the timetable and split week styles, korganizer
  generates a calendar so huge that only a small part of it fits on the
  page. The result is not usable (basically, the generate calendars
  only show each day's overhead).

 I get the same result. This is definitely not the desired behaviour. It
 seems Korganizer is getting confused by its own default time range for
 printing. As a workaround, try setting the end time to 23:59, or select
 a range narrow enough to show the planned parts of your days.

This is not something that can be solved by Debian though. I suggest 
checking if this issue has already been reported in the KDE bug tracking 
system [1] and, if not, filing a bug report there.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://bugs.kde.org


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Re: Korganizer's printed calendars do not fit on a page

2006-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 16 March 2006 15:06, Alex Nordstrom wrote:
 No, bugs in Debian should be reported through the Debian BTS. That,
 incidentally, is what it's there for.

 See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/10/msg01235.html

As a basic rule, yes.
However, submitters should then not be surprised when nothing happens with 
their bugs, especially if it concerns a package (or set of packages) that 
already has a large number of bugs open and the team working on packaging 
has indicated in the past that they need help processing bugs.

The KDE team tend to concentrate on packaging issues and probably things 
like segfaults, not upstream functionality problems.

So, if, as a user, you care about seeing an issue resolved, the best 
course of action really is to submit the bug upstream first.
It is of course perfectly OK to then file a bug in the Debian BTS with a 
link to the upstream bug report to let other Debian users know about the 
issue.
(Or do it the other way around and tag the Debian bug appropriately after 
the bug has been forwarded upstream.)

What I'm saying basically is: don't expect the Debian KDE team to forward 
functionality issues upstream, they just don't have the manpower for it.


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Re: Korganizer's printed calendars do not fit on a page

2006-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 16 March 2006 16:54, Alex Nordstrom wrote:
 I can accept that, pragmatically, reporting to bugs.debian.org is not
 always the most effective way to get things done, but it should always
 be a perfectly acceptable course of action, and going directly to
 upstream should never mean bypassing BDO altogether.

So, we can count on you to get involved in helping the KDE team to triage 
bug reports, forward them upstream when applicable and keep an eye on 
their progress upstream so they can be closed when the version of KDE 
that fixes them hits unstable?

If not, please stop your ranting. Your points are valid (as we have 
already acknowledged earlier in this thread), but useless in practice.


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Bug#335068: kdetoys-doc-html: Documentation does not follow menu policy

2005-10-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: kdetoys-doc-html
Version: 4:3.3.2-3
Severity: minor

In dwww the documentation from this package is included in Apps/Games.
According to the Menu Policy [1], this should be Games/Toys.

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu-policy/ch2.html

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-16.0508-2
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

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Re: Hotplug, udev, hal, etc.

2005-10-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 09 October 2005 15:26, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
 On Sunday 09 October 2005 12:36, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
   all this to work, I'd sure like if someone who knows this stuff
   could explain what the h... is going on.

There have been extensive threads on this subject on d-devel. Suggest 
people interested in udev/hotplug/coldplug read up on those.

Some links:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/08/msg01247.html
continued: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg00110.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/08/msg01454.html
continued: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg00732.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg00830.html

Please don't repeat the whole discussion here. Although it would be good 
to see a discussion on how KDE will deal with the changes and status of 
udev. IMO udev is not yet mature and should remain optional for now.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: multiple addresses at kmail composer's text completion

2005-08-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 August 2005 23:07, LeVA wrote:
 I have only one entry for one address in my address book, but when
 kmail is trying to auto-complete the address I am writing, then somehow
 the addresses gets duplicated. Please see my attachment.
 Anyone could tell why is this happening?

See 
  [General]
  Recent Addresses=
in ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Alioth Unavailable?

2005-08-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 August 2005 00:13, Robert Tilley wrote:
 Is the server down for good?  If not, does anyone know if this is
 scheduled downtime or a dreaded crash?

Temporary problems that are being worked on.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Question about KMail KPdf

2005-06-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 09 June 2005 22:03, Gregg Belli wrote:
  Second question concerns KMail. The thing that I like about Outlook
  Express is that when you have more than 1 e-mail account and you
  write an e-mail you can choose from which account you'd like to send
  the message. In KMail so far I always just switch the default account
  which is a bit tedious So is it possible in KMail to do the
  mentioned switching?

 For me, Kmail by default has an Identity dropdown as the first item
 under the toolbars that allows me to choose. Again, 3.4.1 from alioth,
 fresh install, but I know I've been using this feature forever because,
 as you know, it rocks.

You can set whether the identity dropdown (and others; I use the language 
dropdown quite a bit) should be shown using the View menu *when you are 
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Re: Bug#309548: Woody-Sarge upgrade (was: Dummy run: upgrade of aptitude will remove perl)

2005-05-18 Thread Frans Pop
(Follow-up from experiences yesterday. Today I made a copy of my system to
a free partition and did a real upgrade on that.)

On Wednesday 18 May 2005 00:07, Frans Pop wrote:
 I made sure my Woody environment was fully up-to-date.
 The system does contain some unofficial packages:
 - KDE 3.2.0-0woody1 (from download.kde.org)
IIRC this was the last backport before you had to also upgrade XFree86.
 - OpenOffice1.1 1.1beta2-2 (from www.fs.tum.de/~bunk)
 - Various backports: subversion, automake, gettext
 - Self-compiled from CVS: kdevelop, vlc

It also had wine 0.0.20030408-0.bunk probably from www.fs.tum.de/~bunk.
This proved to be a major hurdle. Only purging it before the upgrade
proved a workable solution.

After that 'aptitude install aptitude dpkg perl' succeeded and I could
continue with the actual upgrade using 'aptitude -f --with-recommends 
dist-upgrade'.

I encountered a few file conflicts from the unofficial backports:
Unpacking replacement kdemultimedia-dev ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdemultimedia-dev_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libartscontrolapplet.la', 
 which is also in package artsbuilder
--
Unpacking replacement kcontrol ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kcontrol_4%3a3.3.2-1_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fonts.la',
 which is also in package kdebase-kio-plugins
--
Unpacking replacement kalarm ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kalarm_4%3a3.3.2-3_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite 
`/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcontrol/kalarmd/index.docbook',
 which is also in package kalarmd
--
Unpacking replacement libkdenetwork2 ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/libkdenetwork2_4%3a3.3.2-3_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite 
`/usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kpgp-3.1-upgrade-address-data.pl',
 which is also in package kgpgcertmanager
--
Unpacking replacement korganizer ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4%3a3.3.2-3_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/servicetypes/dcopcalendar.desktop',
 which is also in package kdepim-libs
--
Replacing files in old package korganizer ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-bin_4%3a3.3.2-5_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kconfig_compiler',
 which is also in package kdelibs4-dev
--
Unpacking replacement kdelibs4-dev ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4-dev_4%3a3.3.2-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkdeinit_dcopserver.la',
 which is also in package kdelibs-bin
--
Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.3.2-5_all.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.sun.xml.calc.desktop',
 which is also in package openoffice.org1.1-mimelnk

I solved these by running 'dpkg -r --force-depends' for kalarmd, 
kdemultimedia-dev,
kdelibs4-dev, kdepim-libs, kdebase-kio-plugins, libkdenetwork2, 
openoffice.org1.1-mimelnk
I later forced a reinstall for kdebase-kio-plugins and libkdenetwork2.

This allowed the upgrade to complete without further problems.
The system reboots fine, kdm starts.

Major problem is that after I log in (even as a new user), KDE is not started.
I get a warning from the sound server that access to /dev/dsp is not allowed but
after that, nothing. The system is not hung, but the KDE splash screen is never
shown. I made sure that I had no 'old' kde-related config files anymore.
An .xsession-errors for the new user  is attached.

Conclusion:
- not an upgrade for the faint-hearted
- I still had to upgrade perl alongside apitude and dpkg in order not to
  have half my system removed (upgrading aptitude without dpkg made no
  difference to that)
- dist-upgrading using Woody's aptitude was not an option either
- I'll probably have to purge and reinstall KDE

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Can't use cookies in Konqueror

2005-05-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 May 2005 14:31, Robert Tilley wrote:
 The Cookie Manager cannot start with Konqueror and so I cannot visit
 webgame sites which use cookies to track user interaction, such as
 LotGD.

As you are running Ubuntu, please ask your question on their user lists as 
their version of KDE is different from the one currently in Debian and 
therefore Ubuntu users are more likely to recognize your problems.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Konqueror: Line breaks ignored when viewing Kerneltrap archives

2005-04-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 21 April 2005 12:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Freitag 15 April 2005 19:31 schrieb Björn Krombholz:
   [1] http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/15/message/51852/thread
 I experienced the same problem with the same site with Konqueror from
 KDE 3.3. I considered filing a bug reports but it is fixed in Konqueror
 from KDE 3.4.

Thanks for that info!


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Konqueror: Line breaks ignored when viewing Kerneltrap archives

2005-04-14 Thread Frans Pop
Hi,

I've tried looking if this is a known problem or not, but drowned in the 
mass of hits/bugs on khtml...

If I view [1] with konqueror 3.3.2, the individual messages are just one 
endless line: no line breaks at all. The window width is also not used, 
so you end up with a very wide page and only the horizontal scroll bar to 
view the message (which makes them effectively unreadable).
Firefox handles the page well.

Does anybody have any idea if a bug has already been filed on this or if 
perhaps this has already been solved in later versions of khtml?

[1] http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/15/message/51852/thread

Cheers,
FJP


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NTFS resizing (was Re: Kernel 2.6.xx)

2005-04-13 Thread Frans Pop
(Also sent privately earlier because of reply-to header.)

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 22:26, Atanas Atanasov wrote:
 I have a 40gb hard with just 1 partition on it - NTFS. I want to make
 it just 10gb (the data on it is about 5gb). I read that knoppix and
 then qtparted should help. But unfortunately it cannot do my job.
 Qtparted stucks when comes for resizing, the window just halts kind of
 and nothing continues. But I still need to safe the WinXP on the
 primary NTFS.

You could try the Debian Installer [1]. This also has support for NTFS 
partition resizing. Make sure that the NTFS partition is clean before 
you boot the CD (i.e. run scandisk within Windows).

I would suggest you use the RC3 netinst CD image.

The manual that is linked from the same page has some info on the subject.

[1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: favicons not displayed anymore

2005-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 07 April 2005 12:07, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
 either all sites, e.g. SourceForge.net or www.debian.org, stopped
 providing the favicon or Konqueror simply ignores it.
 http://sourceforge.net/favicon.ico exists and kiconedit shows its
 content just fine. Other sites still have those icons but many that had
 with the konqueror version from some weeks ago do not anymore.

 The same again on opening www.debian.org. Something seems to be broken
 in the current packages in Sarge!

Works perfectly for me in Sarge. Looks like something is broken in your 
installation.


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Re: favicons not displayed anymore

2005-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 07 April 2005 13:35, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
 Hmm, it worked before and I do not see any setting for konqueror that
 could change that. Maybe you have something (not) installed and that
 changes it? Do you get those libpng error messages?

No, don't get those.

I have:
ii  libpng10-0 1.0.18-1   PNG library, older version - runtime
ii  libpng12-0 1.2.8rel-1 PNG library - runtime

Konqueror seems to depend on the second one.


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Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 18:20, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
 Integrated graphics is like integrated sound: it works if you don't
 expect much. But in case of e.g. distorted sound, you are better off
 getting something real.

Hmm. I suspect you forgot about laptops in that statement.


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Re: Maybe bug in kppp?

2005-04-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 04 April 2005 07:58, Matthias Faulstich wrote:
 But if I make an update to a more actual sarge version of ppp (up to
 date is 2.4.3-20050321+1), the connection fails. 
[...]
 After downgrading ppp to version 2.4.2+20040428-6, kppp connects fine 
 again.

Did you read the /usr/share/doc/kppp/README.Debian?

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:26, Adeodato Simó wrote:
   kdesdk 3.3.2-3 has been built on 
   arm today, and should migrate to testing today or tomorrow, so is not
   big trouble.

Hurray! Thank you Ben and KDE-team.

(This means that a poxml patch I've been patiently waiting for gets into 
testing which allows removal of some ugly hacks in the buildscripts for 
the Installation Guide :-)


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Re: blank screen after hwclock --hctosys

2005-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 25 March 2005 12:57, Joerg Reckers wrote:
 Yes my system is totaly out of sync sure, but thats because of the
 suspend to disk! It is still set to the time it has been while
 suspending!

Run ntpdate as paret of your resume script?

Cheers,
FJP


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Weird color problem on New Maintainer page

2005-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
Hi all,

I've been seeing a weird color problem on the page listing new maintainers
http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php (konqueror 3.3.2 from Sarge).

The problem is the color of the dfsg icon that shows completion of the 
Philosophy  Procedures stage.
That icon is supposed to be black, but when scrolling it seems to take the 
color of the links to applicants.

Here's a screenshot:
http://home.tiscali.nl/isildur/debian/Konqueror-WeirdColors.png

Firefox does not have this problem.

Can anybody confirm? Is this problem also present in unstable and 3.4?

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Weird color problem on New Maintainer page

2005-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 24 March 2005 16:22, Christopher Martin wrote:
 Heh :) I always assumed that this was a problem with the page itself.

I thought at first that the color indicated % of phase completed. I almost 
asked Isaac why I did not have the icon yet after completing the first 
bunch of questions for PP :-P

Unstable yes, 3.4 no.

In that case I suggest we don't worry about it too much.

Thanks,
FJP


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Re: KMail Suggests: (was Re: The KMail PGP/MIME problem solved: gnupg-agent in Debian)

2005-03-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 21 March 2005 17:45, André Wöbbeking wrote:
 Have a look in /usr/bin/startkde and search for env.

What's the best way to stop gpg-agent on logout from KDE?

In /usr/bin/startkde I see a reference to shutdown scripts, so I guess a 
script in ~/.kde/shutdown should work (I currently start gpg-agent from a 
script in ~/.kde/env).

But what should be in that script?
For ssh ssh-agent -k is suggested, but AFAICT no -k option is 
available for gpg-agent.

Suggestions?

TIA,
Frans Pop


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Re: KMail Suggests: (was Re: The KMail PGP/MIME problem solved: gnupg-agent in Debian)

2005-03-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 21 March 2005 18:23, Isaac Clerencia wrote:
 In this kmail+gpg in gentoo howto they just use:
 killall gpg-agent

Thanks Isaac.

Hmmm. That would kill any gpg-agent process the user running it is allowed 
to kill, not just the one that was started in the same environment.
(And return errors for any gpg-agent processes he's not allowed to...)

I was hoping for a bit more controlled solution, but maybe that is 
something that needs to be worked on upstream...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su test
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/fjp$ killall gpg-agent
gpg-agent(3744): Operation not permitted
gpg-agent: no process killed
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/fjp$ gpg-agent --daemon
gpg-agent[10422]: Secure memory is not locked into core
gpg-agent[10422]: directory `/home/test/.gnupg' created
gpg-agent[10422]: directory `/home/test/.gnupg/private-keys-v1.d' created
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-VqWlOk/S.gpg-agent:10423:1; export GPG_AGENT_INFO;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/fjp$ killall gpg-agent
gpg-agent(3744): Operation not permitted
gpg-agent[10423]: SIGTERM received - shutting down ...
gpg-agent[10423]: gpg-agent (GnuPG) 1.9.15 stopped
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/fjp$ exit
exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


Cheers,
FJP

P.S. What is the Secure memory is not locked into core message about?


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Re: KMail Suggests: (was Re: The KMail PGP/MIME problem solved: gnupg-agent in Debian)

2005-03-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 21 March 2005 18:44, Frans Pop wrote:
 I was hoping for a bit more controlled solution, but maybe that is
 something that needs to be worked on upstream...

Just read the other suggestions, that looks a lot better. :-)

Thank you all.


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Re: The KMail PGP/MIME problem solved: gnupg-agent in Debian

2005-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 March 2005 04:09, Adeodato Simó wrote:
   I'm happy to
   announce that the 'gnupg-agent' package is available as of today in
   Debian Sid, and hopefully soon from Debian Sarge as well. This will
   make KMail fully functional in the upcoming Debian 3.1 release, which
   is undoubtedly a good thing.

That is excellent news! Thanks very much to all involved.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: kamil recent-address's

2005-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 10 March 2005 09:05, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
 if yes, then, the next mail with it corrected will be in recent adress,
 and the bad one will disapear.

Thinking back from behavior I'm seeing in kmail, I think it remembers the 
last X addresses you used. So an incorrect address will disappear 
eventually, but not as soon as you use the correct address. They will 
both be offered for a while.

 AFAIK, kmail takes the adresses from your sentbox or sth like that, so
 try to delete the mails with the bad adress in it and restart kmail.

They are saved in the ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc file.
If the bad address really bugs you, just edit that file. Look for Recent 
Addresses= in the [General] section.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Problem with kate and long lines (upstream bug #93928)

2005-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 21:48, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
 whoa, what a big boy, you know the expression « release critical » clap
 clap... today's lesson will be to learn what a release critical bug
 really is ...

Reply sent in private mail.


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Re: Problem with kate and long lines (upstream bug #93928)

2005-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 23:25, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
 ouch, please cool down, as explained above there's a (at the very least
 feasible) non-offending interpretation of what frans wrote,

I had a private mail exchange with Pierre. Any misunderstandings were 
fully resolved and I even feel we're looking forward to working together 
in the future.

Please let this tread die.

Cheers,
Frans


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Re: Resetting KDE-Menus

2005-03-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 07:20, C. Hurschler wrote:
 Somehow my menus and file associations have been messed up in one user
 account.  How can I reset them?  Moving .kde didn't seem to affect my
 menus.

Take a look at .local/share.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Problem with kate and long lines (upstream bug #93928)

2005-03-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 07 March 2005 16:45, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
 On Monday 07 March 2005 16:08, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
  the only problems are :
   * wrt kdm (read [1] for i386 and [2] for ppc)
   * kdepim is not packaged atm, and kmail segfaults (but kontact works
 fine, so whole KDE remains fully stable).

 does the working kontact include a working kmail component? (working
 kmail is critical for me)

kmail segfaulting sounds release critical anyway...
Wrapping it in kontact should not be a requirement.


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Re: wrong locale in kpackage kde 3.3.2

2005-02-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 04 February 2005 20:51, Mauro Darida wrote:
 I have noticed that every time I install a package from kpackage it
 gives the following warnings:
 perl:warning:Setting locale failed.
 perl:warning:Please check that your locale settings:
 LANGUAGE=(unset)
 LC_ALL=en_US
 LANG=(unset)
 are supported and installed on your system
 perl:warning:Falling back to the standard locale (C).

 This is what I have in my system locale settings:
 # cat /etc/profile
 # /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1))
 # and Bourne compatible shells (bash(1), ksh(1), ash(1), ...).
[...]
 #
 # Imposto la localizzazione
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 export LANG
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 export LC_CTYPE
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 export LC_ALL

AFAIK /etc/profile is not read when you log in through KDM.
The proper place to set default LANG and LANGUAGE is /etc/environment.

If you want per user settings, I think ~/.kde/env/some script is the 
proper place.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#289646: kbabel: crash with some .po file

2005-01-23 Thread Frans Pop
I've also been having crashes using kbabel in Sarge (see #289646). I've 
had crashes with several po files now.

The behavior is somewhat eratic: when I first had the crash, I could 
always reproduce it, now I find that sometimes the crash does not happen.
Very likely my crashes are related to this BR.

The tag 'sid' for this bug is probably _not_ correct!

||/ Name  Version
+++-=-===
ii  kbabel3.3.1-2
ii  kdelibs   3.3.1-4
ii  kdelibs4  3.3.1-4


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Re: Trouble with keyboard definition ...

2005-01-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 23:51, Hervé Piedvache wrote:
 I have bought a laptop from Toshiba Model SM30-801 with a QWERTY
 keyboard ... (I'm french, used to AZERTY), but no matter I want to use
 it in QWERTY ...

 I have a problem ... I have defined in KDE to use the US keyboard (I
 have tried several US/English definitions)... and choosed Toshiba
 keyboard (I'm using KDE v3.2) ... it's running quite good except the
 fact that I have some keys like @, # or ' wich are close to the Enter
 key on my keyboard (physicaly), but to get the @ I need to use Shift+2
 ... so not the normal physical keyboard definition ... :o(

Well, Shift-2 _is_ the normal position for @ on an US keyboard.
So although your keyboard may be QWERTY, it is _not_ US...

You'll have to try some of the other existing QWERTY layouts.
The files in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/ may give you some ideas.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Kmail mixes messages in maildir folders

2005-01-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 00:34, Bud Rogers wrote:
 Since about Sunday my kmail mismatches headers and bodies in maildir
 folders.  Anyone else seeing this?  I didn't find anything about it in
 BTS.

 Also, I seem to be getting a lot of duplicate emails from several
 mailing lists.

 I'm tracking Sarge with nightly upgrades.  KDE 3.3.1, Kmail 1.7.1.

I have the same setup, but I don't see any of the problems you describe.
(My inbox is mbox, but most of my other folders are maildir.)

Good luck on tracking it down.


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Re: Bug#247312: konqueror: opening of bookmarks is much slower when clicking directly on Bookmarks menu

2005-01-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 08 January 2005 04:33, Hervé Eychenne wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 01:39:46AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
 I'm not talking about any kind of bug report. I'm talking about
 a submitted bug that has failed to be just tagged upstream and
 forwarded for almost 8 months now.

Irrelevant given the urgency of the problem.
Now, if it had been a security issue, then you would have been somewhat 
justified in your attitude.

  Although in principle bug triage _is_ the job of the package
  maintainer(s), it is also their good right to prioritize their work,
  *especially* as we are all volunteers.

 I guess no one expects the Debian KDE team to _solve_ the bug, and
 neither do I.

Ah, that's something at least.

 All a Debian KDE maintainer should have done is to take a couple of
 minutes to actually tag the bug and forward it to upstream.

You have absolutely no basis to claim that a developer should do so. See 
below for the reasons.
The time of a Debian Developer, being a volunteer, is his own. If there 
really are important things that he can't handle, he will probable ask 
for help himself or, especially if the packages are important enough for 
Debian as a whole, the project will in some way intervene.

 Once more, I regret: if the submitter gets no feedback, he'll consider
 that the upstream team had hard times chasing the bug (some bugs are
 tricky), certainly not that the Debian guys has left his report in the
 bottom of the barrel for months. Do you actually understand that?

That's a somewhat valid argument. However, if you have read the general 
info on bug handling (which is freely available to users) you know that 
bugs forwarded upstream would have been tagged as such and as yours 
wasn't...

  A last suggestion to the submitter: you could have tried asking here
  how best to proceed.

 Once more, the submitter is absolutely not supposed to know that he
 should ask how to proceed instead of just reporting the bug itself,
 like reportbug (and http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting) kindly advise
 him to.

Ah, a genuine communication breakdown.
I wrote my first reaction to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and CC'ed you as 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. With here I meant the kde users 
list, not the BTS.
I agree that asking the BTS how to proceed would have been silly. Asking 
this list would have been very smart.

 Oh, I forgot: it is _not_ the submitter's job to monitor every bug
 he filled, just because the submitter can absolutely not imagine
 that his report might well _not be processed at all_ for months,
 years, decad^Wok, trollinit aborted.

Ah, but it is. It's even very easy. Try:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Seems like we all like discussions, but I hope you realize that
 all the cumulated time spent in this discussion by Debian KDE
 maintainers already represents at the very least 20 times more
 time than one tag/forward operation would require (ok, now I guess
 some guy will probably say that the bug submitter is the one to
 blame, wrong shot).

The reason we are willing to spend the time on this discussion is because 
we are in general nice people and hope the discussion will help you 
understand the spirit in which Debian as a project is being run.
However, also having read your other reactions today, I don't think you 
will ever be happy with a distribution that's run on a volunteer basis.

So I suggest you forget about Debian and buy yourself a nice commercial 
one (or maybe even something out of Redmont).
However, be prepared to spend a _lot_ of money to purchase additional 
service levels to get the kind of response you seem to expect.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: KDE 3.3.1 in Sarge

2005-01-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 06 January 2005 15:38, Adeodato Simó wrote:
   I belive you can easily find a couple or more bugs related to
   non-working keyboards in kdm. IIRC, it's due to an upsteam change in
   the kdm/Xservers file. We will discuss providing a workaround for the
   3.3.2 packages.

Hmm. Yes, you are right. Checking the BTS, it looks like I was bitten by 
#266106. Fixed it like described there.

I guess I just wasn't expecting a bug like this to make it to Sarge :-(

Anyway, I'm still very happy with the improvements in 3.3.1.
(Although I probably will change the new startup sound: it sounds too 
Windowsish for my taste)


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Re: Bug#247312: konqueror: opening of bookmarks is much slower when clicking directly on Bookmarks menu

2005-01-07 Thread Frans Pop
   Ok, this bitter answer demonstrates that you don't know how things
   work here (at leat in debian KDE). To put it straight, there's not
   enought people and not enought time. If you are willing to
   volunteer, you are very much welcome. I'm also a user and try to
   help as much as I can, fixing bugs, dealing with the BTS and such.

 You don't get it.

  Now, now.  I know we are all busy, and it would be nice if the
  submitter had done this for you, but bug triage is ultimately the
  maintainer's job.
  There is no point yelling at a user because they didn't do your

 Who's yelling?

And so on, and so forth.

Hmm. A flame war in a bug report. And over a fairly trivial issue as well.
Looks like things could do with a bit of cooling down.

I've read most of the bug history. And I must say to the submitter: if you 
think 7 months is bad, you're in for bigger disappointments. There are 
bugs in the BTS that are over 3 years old (some even on issues not as 
trivial as this one...).

Although in principle bug triage _is_ the job of the package 
maintainer(s), it is also their good right to prioritize their work, 
*especially* as we are all volunteers.

IMO the responsibility of a maintainer for bug triage is bigger if 
upstream is less accessible to users. For KDE this is clearly _not_ the 
case. Upstream has a great BTS themselves, open to all and easy to find. 
They even have a nice voting system that allows users to collectively 
determine the priority of an issue.

I myself have over the past 5 years or so made the transition from file 
everything in the Debian BTS as that's my distribution to hey, where 
does this problem come from and let's file upstream if more appropriate. 
In the second case I may also submit a bug in Debian's BTS if I feel the 
maintainers or other users should be aware of the problem.
Of course packaging related issues should always go to Debian's BTS, but 
especially for wishlist and minor issues that are clearly upstream, 
submitting directly to KDE's BTS is often the better solution as their 
manpower (and ability to judge the severity and relevance of an issue) is 
way greater than Debian's KDE team.

I must say I'm very happy with KDE support ATM. The recent additions the 
team can clearly be seen in the results and in my experience maintainers 
are very responsive to issues raised e.g. on this list.

So guys (and even gals maybe?), thanks and don't let this bother you too 
much.

A last suggestion to the submitter: you could have tried asking here how 
best to proceed.

Cheers,
FJP

(Debian and KDE user, wannabe DD and volunteer in the debian-installer 
project)


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Re: how to clear cache

2005-01-06 Thread Frans Pop
 After visiting some sensitive sites, you are advised to 'clear the
 cache' for security reason. In IE, this involves clearing files in a
 folder, and there's a button for that

 How is this handle in Konqueror?

You really are good in asking trivial questions that you could very easily 
figure out for yourselves.
The answer is: exactly the same.

But as you apparently are not capable of locating it, the full 
instructions are:
Settings (in the menu)-Configure Konqueror (menu option)-Cache (big icon 
in first column)-Clear cache (nice button)

Extremely obvious IMHO.

Cheers,
FJP

/me very much hopes you will search a little bit harder before asking 
questions on this list in the future; if not you will be the very first 
person I will give his very own mailfilter assigning your mails straight 
to trash.


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Re: KDE 3.3.1 in Sarge

2005-01-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 18:07, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 kate always throws out reams of failed assertions to the console.  I
 got sick of it and now use

 function kate
 {
  /usr/bin/kate $@ 2/dev/null
 }

Yes, but that is not a real solution and it is very much worse than in the 
previous version of kate in Sarge.
I yesterday deleted my ~/.xsession-errors, but now it is already at 180kB.

The main culprits are:
ASSERT: !m_doc-wrapCursor() in ../../../kate/part/katerenderer.cpp 
(626)
konqueror: ERROR: Error in BrowserExtension::actionSlotMap(), unknown 
action : searchProvider

IMHO, these really need to be fixed.

I also wonder if these messages really need to be printed:
gpgmeplug checkMessageSignature found email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gpgmeplug checkMessageSignature status flags: 3

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: KDE 3.3.1 in Sarge

2005-01-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 16:59, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 January 2005 14:36, Frans Pop wrote:
  Just upgraded to 3.3.1 in Sarge. No problems and...

I ran into one other problem this morning when I booted the system.
The keyboard was completely dead in kdm, including console switching.

In the end I rebooted into single user mode, started kde with 'startx' and 
checked the keyboard settings in the control panel.
It turned out that the Enable keyboard layouts checkbox had somehow been 
deselected and also my Xkb Options were gone.

After resetting these, kdm works normally again.

Cheers,
FJP


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KDE 3.3.1 in Sarge

2005-01-05 Thread Frans Pop
Hi,

Just upgraded to 3.3.1 in Sarge. No problems and...

I love it!

Thanks to everybody who worked on it!

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: KDE 3.3.1 in Sarge

2005-01-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 14:36, Frans Pop wrote:
 Just upgraded to 3.3.1 in Sarge. No problems and...

Hmmm. Maybe I spoke a little bit too soon.

If I start kate from konsole, I get tons of messages like:
ASSERT: !m_doc-wrapCursor() in ../../../kate/part/katerenderer.cpp 
(626)

Can anyone confirm?

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: KDE Restart -- Necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 20 December 2004 02:09, Robert Tilley wrote:
 What other methods could have restarted KDE?

If you are using kdm or another display manager, a very certain method is:
- - log out from KDE (end session only)
- - when the login screen is shown, switch to VC1 using ctrl-alt-f1
- - execute '/etc/init.d/kdm restart' as root

This will not only completely restart KDE, but X11 as well.

Cheers,
FJP
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Update in t-p-u for kde-core from 4:3.1.2 to 5:42 ???

2004-11-23 Thread Frans Pop
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Hi all,

I noticed this evening in aptitude an update for Sarge for kde-core.
I think the update is probably from testing-proposed-updates.

It looks very suspicious to me:
- - Why the huge version jump from 4:3.1.2 to 5:42?
- - Why does the changelog list:   The why is kde in debian still 3.1.2 
Release
  As you well know the version of KDE is Sarge is 3.2.3!

Please look into this.

(/me has put the package on hold for now)

Cheers,
Frans Pop
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Re: Update in t-p-u for kde-core from 4:3.1.2 to 5:42 ???

2004-11-23 Thread Frans Pop
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Hello Adeodato,

Thanks very much for the extremely quick reaction!

On Wednesday 24 November 2004 00:24, Adeodato Simó wrote:
 * Frans Pop [Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:08:27 +0100]:
  - Why the huge version jump from 4:3.1.2 to 5:42?

   to make kde just a dependency package, clearly stating that its
   version has no relation at all to the real kde version in debian.

  - Why does the changelog list:   The why is kde in debian still
  3.1.2 Release As you well know the version of KDE is Sarge is 3.2.3!

   'apt-cache show kde' would show version 3.1.2, and some people would
   get confused by that.

Seeing things explained like that makes it obvious. It was just that the 
two discrepancies together that me doubt this update.

   next time you could check the archives of the lists you post to, e.g.
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/11/msg00327.html. and
 the relevant changelog entry, of course:

 * Disconnect meta-kde version numbers from kde.

Ah, yes. A bit cryptic for my limited intellectual powers ;-)

I agree that I should have checked debian-qt-kde before sending the 
message. Will do better next time.
One advantage: d-kde readers are informed now as well...

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: KDE 3.3.1 for Sarge

2004-11-21 Thread Frans Pop
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(Sorry for breaking the threads, but I'm not subscribed to d-release.)

I'd be willing to help in testing apps for Sarge, provided that there is 
some clear coordination and the intention is let's go for KDE 3.3.1 
unless ... and not maybe we'll allow KDE 3.3.1 if 

Although I haven't tried 3.3.1 yet (my system is running Sarge), I'd like 
to see it in Sarge as there are several minor annoying problems in 3.2.3 
that I understand are solved in 3.3.1.

I do think that proper support for and easy installation of encryption 
support for kmail (gpgme1.0, kleopatra) should be a condition for 
allowing 3.3.1.
I understand from d-kde this is being worked on.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Enabling shutdown in KDE

2004-11-02 Thread Frans Pop
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On Wednesday 03 November 2004 12:03, Mateusz wrote:
 this may seem to be a stupid problem but i've spent some time on this,
 i googled a lot and i haven't found anything.
 How/where do i enable shutdown options for kde ? i tried changing
 options in control center - i've enabled shutdown options, i tried
 switching default shutdown option to reboot or shutdown but still when
 i want to exit KDE i have only logout possibility.

How do you start KDE?
If you use startx (or start KDE manually), having only logout is normal.
If you use kdm, you should have all opions.
Not sure what you should see if you use gdm or xdm.

Hope this helps,
FJP
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Re: Enabling shutdown in KDE

2004-11-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 15:39, Mateusz wrote:
 yeah, that's right, i use startx. do you know how to start KDE
 automatically,everytime i start debian?

Install kdm.




Bug#247864: klaptop_acpi_helper produces a setuid-root warning/error message

2004-10-27 Thread Frans Pop
This error also occurs in the latest version for Sarge (from t-p-u).

I noticed this error when I had to set the setuid bit again after updating 
from version 3.2.2-2 to version 3.2.2-2.sarge1.



Re: Krypto Modules (for Kmail)

2004-09-15 Thread Frans Pop
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Please don't cross post questions like this. This should have been asked on 
d-kde only.

On Wednesday 15 September 2004 18:01, Roland Wegmann wrote:
 Which debian package do I have to install so that Kmail is able to verify
 the signature of emails?

I think you're looking for 'cryptplug'.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Re: where do mixer settings come from?

2004-08-30 Thread Frans Pop
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OK. Last try :-)

This control panel option on my system (Sarge, KDE 3.2.3) is called 'kmixcfg' 
and is included in the kmix package.

$ dpkg -S kmixcfg
kmix: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcontrol/kmixcfg
kmix: /usr/share/applications/kde/kmixcfg.desktop
kmix: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcontrol/kmixcfg/common
kmix: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcontrol/kmixcfg/index.docbook
kmix: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcontrol/kmixcfg/index.cache.bz2

It can be started manually by running 'kcmshell kmixcfg'.

Maybe this will help you trace where/why this option has gone.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: KMail PGP/MIME howto and Debian

2004-08-30 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 30 August 2004 21:22, Derek Broughton wrote:
 There's also something odd about
 the packaging of cryptplug, because even though it's required by gnupg,
 deborphan always reports it as an orphan.

I don't see any dependency like that in Sarge.
I just manually installed cruptplug yesterday on my laptop because signing 
emails wasn't working in kmail.

$ dpkg -l gnupg
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version  Description
+++---
ii  gnupg1.2.4-4  GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement

$ apt-cache depends gnupg
gnupg
  Depends: libbz2-1.0
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libldap2
  Depends: zlib1g
 |Depends: makedev
 |Depends: devfsd
  Depends: hurd
  Suggests: gnupg-doc
  Suggests: xloadimage
  Conflicts: gpg-rsa
  Conflicts: gpg-rsaref
  Conflicts: suidmanager
  Conflicts: gpg-idea
  Replaces: gpg-rsa
gnupg
  Replaces: gpg-rsaref
gnupg

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: where do mixer settings come from?

2004-08-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 29 August 2004 07:24, Adeodato Simó wrote:
   also, I'd swear that was somewhere in the control center too, but I
   can't find it now.

Control Center / Sound  Multimedia / Mixer
- button: Save Current Volumes
- checkbox: Load volumes on login

(KDE 3.2.3 from current Sarge)




Re: where do mixer settings come from?

2004-08-29 Thread Frans Pop
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On Sunday 29 August 2004 19:44, Adeodato Simó wrote:
 * Frans Pop [Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:23:10 +0200]:
  On Sunday 29 August 2004 07:24, Adeodato Simó wrote:
 also, I'd swear that was somewhere in the control center too, but I
 can't find it now.
 
  Control Center / Sound  Multimedia / Mixer

   you mean a third tab next to General and Hardware?. I only have those
   two...

No, it's not a tab in Sound System.
On my system Mixer is an option on the same level as Sound System in the 
expanded list for Sound  Multimedia.

So, you don't choose
  Control Center / Sound  Multimedia / Sound System
but
  Control Center / Sound  Multimedia / Mixer

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Unicode in Konsole

2004-08-18 Thread Frans Pop
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On Wednesday 18 August 2004 19:42, Peter Clark wrote:
Try creating a menu item with 'LANG=ll_CC.UTF-8 konsole' as command.

Cheers,
FJP
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Bug#254948: Changes to debian submenu saved but never used

2004-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
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I'd appreciate it if someone would take a look at this bug [1].

I reported it to bugs.kde.org at first [2], and they help to trace
the probable cause. However, it seems they've lost interest.

I recently upgraded to 3.2.3 (Sarge) and I've just confirmed the bug
is still there. If I edit programs in other submenu's than Debian,
the changes are used correctly.

So the problem is limited to the Debian submenu, probably because of the
use of the use of this symlink in /etc/xdg/menus:
debian-menu.menu - /var/lib/menu-xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu

It would be a shame if this bug would still be in Sarge when it makes
stable...

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=254948
[2] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83488

TIA,
Frans Pop

(Please CC me, I'm not on the qt-kde list.)
(Only on Boot, KDE, Security, Dutch, Doc, Laptop, ... :-)
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Re: screensavers can't be configured anymore in kde 3.2.2

2004-07-13 Thread Frans Pop
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On Friday 21 May 2004 14:24, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 21 May 2004 13:55, Uwe Brauer wrote:
  After upgrading from 3.1.5 to 3.2.2 the screensavers work but cannot
  be configured, none of them.
  Is there any fix?

 I already filed a bugreport about this.
 See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150

Just did the upgrade in Sarge (3.2.3). Tested and works again! Great.
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Re: Clock Applet Again

2004-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
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  Just wondering, did everyone see my mail last week about the problem with
  clock applet that I described? Basically, I have it set to digital mode
  and when I check the check box for LCD, I get a shadowed look but the
  background is still the same as the taskbar.

I can confirm the problem. However, I think this is somewhat intentional and 
depends on your screen resolution or something.
On my desktop I get some horizontal stripes in the background when LCD is 
checked. On my laptop nothing seems to happen.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Clock Applet Again

2004-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
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On Sunday 11 July 2004 20:02, Silvan wrote:
 I've got this running on four different desktops, with different video
 drivers and whatnot, and none of them have ever displayed anything except
 shadowed numbers floating on whatever the panel background happens to be. 
 This has been the case since upgrading to KDE 3.2 the first time.

Here are two screenshots from my desktop (running the 3.2.0 Woody backport)
with and without the LCD effect.
My laptop (running Sarge) does not show the effect.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Clock Applet Again

2004-07-11 Thread Frans Pop
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See http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76901.
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Re: revising the first cd contents...

2004-07-01 Thread Frans Pop
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On Thursday 01 July 2004 13:58, Denis wrote:
 folks this way of voting itsn't effective, you're not the only one who
 would use Debian and the thing you write mentioning your favourite
 application don't make sense e.g. because me or someone else simply not
 use them. I guess data from the popularity-contest should be used for
 such purposes or some kind of poll should be held somwhere to determine
 what application would be best to appear on the CD. am I wrong? :-\

popularity-contest won't work in this case as it counts packages that are 
_installed_. In this case we want to have packages _used_ most often and 
generally considered to make up a useful KDE system.

A poll could be nice, but I guess the informed opinion of people active on 
this list should work as well in this case.

I think the answers provided thus far point to a fair selection:
- - konqueror
- - kate
- - kmail

I would also like to include some basic general purpose apps:
- - kpaint
- - kview
- - kghostview or kpdf
- - kontact
- - kmix
- - kscd
- - kcalc
- - kgpg

And maybe:
- - knode
- - kopete or ksirc
- - kpackage
- - kget

Packages selected should preferably be quite small and not depend on (to many) 
other packages not traditionally included on CD1.

Any ideas yet on how to package this and how to inform the d-i or CD teams?

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Problem with kdm startup

2004-06-22 Thread Frans Pop
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On Tuesday 22 June 2004 10:51, m wrote:

 Thanks for the help, Frans. I added psmouse in my /etc/modules and it
 worked :)

Thanks for your quick reactions. I've submitted a bug against xserver-xfree86:
- - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=255744

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Problem with kdm startup

2004-06-21 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 21 June 2004 21:53, Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler wrote:
 On Monday 21 June 2004 14:32, m wrote:
  On startup, it runs kdm, but then screen blanks and returns back to the
  login prompt.
 
  After that i login as normal user and try to run from command line, it
  says that: Only root wants to run kdm. If i login as root and type kdm,
  it runs ok, showing the list of user and i can normally login.
 
  If i try running startx from command line, it runs kdm from any user ok.
 
  Anybody has any suggestions why it doesn't want to run kdm but runs
  startx?

 I've been having the same problem intermittantly on a fresh sarge install.
 The XFree86.log then reports some problem with configuring the mouse,
 although it doesn't always happen, when it does it drops back out the the
 boot prompt and I have to kill kdm and restart it to get in normaly
 (without startx).

I had the same problems on two fresh installs.

I have found this problem can be solved by adding psmouse in /etc/modules.
The problem seems to be that loading the module takes to long and X exits 
because it can't find a core pointer.
I think that with psmouse in /etc/modules the driver is loaded earlier and X 
finds it without problem. That's also why it starts correctly when X is 
started manually: the driver has been loaded by then.

Please let me know if my fix works for you as well, then I'll file a bugreport 
against X on this issue.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: screensavers can't be configured anymore in kde 3.2.2

2004-06-15 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 24 May 2004 00:15, Nick Leverton wrote:
 On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 12:42:39AM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote:
  BTW I see there is another related-sounding bug already filed :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208769
KDE lists screensavers that aren't installed
  (filed in September 2003)
  as well as Frans's
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150
Can't configure some screensavers any more

 And http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=245894
 kcontrol: Cannot configure The Matrix screensaver

Good news!
I did an strace this weekend and managed to locate the probable cause [1].
After that Ben Burton has been very quick to squash the bug (thanks Ben!).

I think the new packages (4:3.2.3-1) are already in the pipeline and hopefully 
will be in testing pretty soon [2].

[1] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83324
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150
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Re: No Debian Menus in Kicker (Debian Unstable)

2004-05-31 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 31 May 2004 19:26, Jerome wrote:
 Thanks for the help. I apt-got menu-xdg. I ran update-menus again. I
 checked out the debian-user threads too. I re-logged into kde (xnest while
 running another DE). I ran the update menu utility. Still no Debian menus.

Try looking in ~/.config/menus and maybe delete/move that.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: screensavers can't be configured anymore in kde 3.2.2

2004-05-21 Thread Frans Pop
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On Friday 21 May 2004 13:55, Uwe Brauer wrote:
 After upgrading from 3.1.5 to 3.2.2 the screensavers work but cannot
 be configured, none of them.
 Is there any fix?

I already filed a bugreport about this.
See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150

I have the problem on two different system.
I have not yet found or seen a fix.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: Arts, network transparency, nas.

2004-05-03 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 03 May 2004 11:58, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
 On Monday 03 May 2004 11:44, Jan De Luyck wrote:
  On Monday 03 May 2004 11:22, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
   Ideas anyone?

I have now idea how you could use arts.

Maybe take a look at vlc. It is very strong and well supported. Browse their 
mailing list history for ideas.

Cheers.

FJP
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