Re: Desktop to JPEG
ksnapshot. On Monday 04 June 2007 15:21, Stephen Frazier wrote: > I am writing some user documentation and I would like to have a JPEG (or > some other image) of a part of my KDE desktop in it. Is there a program > that will create such an image? > > -- > Stephen Frazier > Information Technology Unit > Oklahoma Department of Corrections > 3400 Martin Luther King > Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 > Tel.: (405) 425-2549 > Fax: (405) 425-2554 > Pager: (405) 690-1828 > email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - President/CEO - LinuxMagic Products, Services, Support and Development Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca "LinuxMagic" is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. 604-589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Konqueror and Google issues?
Anyone notice any strange things with Google blocking browser specific queries? Was doing some normal googling in Konqueror.., and got the following message. *** QUOTED We're sorry... ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or network has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and other spurious software. We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google. *** END QUOTE *** Firing up Mozilla and the same queries had no problems.. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kalyxo --> ekhis
On September 13, 2005 06:32 am, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hello, > > in case you wondered where kalyxo.org has gone, this seems to be the > successor of it: > > http://ekhis.org/ And in keeping with that, we HAD been acting as a slave DNS for kalyxo, but of course that has not been of any use for a while. We are dropping ourselves as a slave for kalyxo.org, but if it is needed, we can offer the same services for the new domain. > Regards, > -- > Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kmail no longer finds account info
This issue seems to affect korganizer, kaddressbook, kmail and possibly other applications during a system crash.. We have seen everything from the file name with hundreds of .backup extensions.. ie.. .backup.backup.backup.. ... Also, what happens is that it blindly overwrites existing personal config files with a new blank one, (It should check that if it is missing, restore backup, but it doens't) and then when you open/exit the program and find the missing info, by that time it overwrites the legitimate backup with a backup of the empty file, so you have lost everything. I am sure that many bug reports must have been filed on this issue, so check there first, but you probably have to restore the config files from backup, or recreate the information that they contained. On January 19, 2005 10:14 am, Michael Bona wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Debian/Woody with the semi-official KDE3 packages. KDE version > is 3.2.0, KMail is version 1.6. > > Since this Friday, KMail opens and shows all mail previously received but > cannot fetch or send mail since it seems to have lost all the account > infos. > > I looked in .kde/share/apps/kmail and the files with the account info seem > to be there but kmail either does not find them or does not read them or > they are corrupt. Kmail shows no error message when starting up. > > When I try to download mail, no account names are shown, pressing the > button only shows an empty drop-down. > > Any help appreciated > Michael -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.2.2: KDM, password
Oh, and yeah.. BTW, it shoudl be mentioned to the maintainers, that is a NASTY surprise... under no circumstances should an install allow logins without passwords, but the upgrade seems to .. On October 21, 2004 11:40 pm, Christian wrote: > When using KDM of 3.2.2 (woody system) I am not asked for the password > forllogin. I can type one in or not, I am getting logged in. > > In Kcontrolcenter kdm settings do not allow login without password. > > What can be the reason for this? > > Christian > > -- > +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ > Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: KDE 3.2.2: KDM, password
This one is because of PAM problems/differences On October 21, 2004 11:40 pm, Christian wrote: > When using KDM of 3.2.2 (woody system) I am not asked for the password > forllogin. I can type one in or not, I am getting logged in. > > In Kcontrolcenter kdm settings do not allow login without password. > > What can be the reason for this? > > Christian > > -- > +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ > Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: KDE 3.2.2: Konqueror, icons appear two times
Mentioned on list already, this is because the programs aren't looking to /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc, you can work around this by adding a link to this from the users .kde/share/config/ui/ui_standards.rc, however this is a work around, and I have not seen a better solution as yet on the list. I suggest that someone else can shed more light on this. On October 21, 2004 11:35 pm, Christian wrote: > Hello, > > I updated to KDE 3.2.2 running a woody system. > > There are some problems left, one is that all icons in Konqueror (like up, > back, print...) appear two times. Also, some menu entrys are double. > > What is wrong (or better: what did I do wrong)? > > Christian > > -- > +++ GMX DSL Premiumtarife 3 Monate gratis* + WLAN-Router 0,- EUR* +++ > Clevere DSL-Nutzer wechseln jetzt zu GMX: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: Michael Peddemors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Actually, no.. This is isnt' a fake, it is from one of our business clients. And it is a KDE question, as it is qmail that has the problem rendering it.. AS I mentioned, the plain/text portion of the email is not displayed, and the VCARD info isn't displayed correctly either. On October 20, 2004 12:38 pm, Matías Costa wrote: > El Martes, 19 de Octubre de 2004 20:19, Michael Peddemors escribió: > > I have a message that displays some sort of Vcard output from outlook for > > an appointment, in the body of the message, but looses the text portion.. > > That looks a fake. I'm not a expert but I'should ignore it. Well, I have > true outlook (standard) Vcards > > Now I think if I ever had to reply you, so I make it in private. This is > not a really KDE question (may be...) -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Weird Problem with Mail From Outlook Appointments..
I have a message that displays some sort of Vcard output from outlook for an appointment, in the body of the message, but looses the text portion.. Important parts of the email headers below, as well as screen shot.. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_NextPart_000_0014_01C4B5C3.93A74680" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Status: R X-Status: N X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0014_01C4B5C3.93A74680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:00 AM-11:00 AM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana. Where: Fern's Office *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Hi All, Please be advised that Dave and I have scheduled a meeting to be held in my office on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 10 am to discuss the Member Newsletter. Hope to see you all. --=_NextPart_000_0014_01C4B5C3.93A74680 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IhsRAQaQCAAEAAABAAEAAQeQBgAI5AQAAADoAAEIgAcAHgAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgU2NoZWR1bGUuTXRnUmVxAJUKAQ2ABAACAgACAAEGAAMADgAAANQHCgAaAAoA -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. <>
Re: "No Text!" in kde menu bar and duplicated items
I notice that in my boxes upgraded from 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 series, I have both directories, /usr/share/config.kcfg and /etc/kde3 but .. kde-config --path config only gives the home directory, and no default config directories. On October 15, 2004 06:05 am, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday 15 October 2004 10:15, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > You can try to (move dir /usr/share/config away if it exists) > > > > ln -s /usr/share/config /etc/kde3 > > I think it should be the other way around > ln -s /etc/kde3 /usr/share/config > > Cheers, > Kevin -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: "No Text!" in kde menu bar and duplicated items
On October 14, 2004 02:44 am, Achim Bohnet wrote: > On Thursday 14 October 2004 10:22, Massimiliano Mirabello wrote: > Let's find the really problem, before we declare it solved ;) > > > A message sent in debian-kde list (subject was:"Missing Text Items... > > Tracked Down.) helped me. > > Problem is caused by a missing config file in all users home (this is not > > created with user and some programs don't look for deafault shared > > ui_standards.rc) > > > > Greetings, > > Massimiliano > > On Sunday 10 October 2004 00:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: > > Just an FYI for anyone upgrading from 3.1.4 to 3.2.xx series, the gotcha > > in the woody debs, is that the new packages in some cases (kedit,kpdf > > etc) only > What version of do you use? > dpkg -l *kdelibs\* kpdf kedit | grep ^[^up] ii kdelibs3.2.2-0.credat KDE core libraries metapackage ii kdelibs-bin3.2.2-0.credat KDE core binaries ii kdelibs-data 3.2.2-0.credat KDE core shared data ii kdelibs4 3.2.2-0.credat KDE core libraries ii kpdf 3.2.2-0.credat PDF viewer for KDE ii kedit 3.2.2-0.credat KDE text editor > What your output of: > > $ strace kpdf 2>&1 | grep ui_standards It was via strace that I found that it didn't hit the /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc file.. > > Possibly new users will get this file created, I did not check yet. > > No. Ouch.. Then the packages need fixing.. > > Without that file in the users home directories, the app specific text > > items will only show. This also causes duplicate items somehow, but was > > resolved also by adding this file. > > that's a workaround that hides the real problem ;) I know.. That's why I mentioned it shoudl go to the dvelopers lists. > > Really, the programs should be looking for the presence of a default > > standards file, if the users one is missing. > > Right. This normally is the standard kde behaviour. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Missing Text Items... Tracked Down.
Just an FYI for anyone upgrading from 3.1.4 to 3.2.xx series, the gotcha in the woody debs, is that the new packages in some cases (kedit,kpdf etc) only look for the ~/.kde/share/config/ui/ui_standards.rc only, and not the default /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc file. Possibly new users will get this file created, I did not check yet. Without that file in the users home directories, the app specific text items will only show. This also causes duplicate items somehow, but was resolved also by adding this file. Really, the programs should be looking for the presence of a default standards file, if the users one is missing. I am not on the developers list, but someone who is might see if this is already mentioned there. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: KDE Sources for 3.1.4 on Woody gone?
On October 4, 2004 02:31 pm, Michael Peddemors wrote: > On October 3, 2004 08:27 pm, Nick Boyce wrote: > > That's curious and alarming .. thanks for that heads-up. In fact > > I see the oldest Debian binaries there are for 3.2.2 - even though > > 3.1.5 and 3.2.1 branches are present, they no longer contain any debs. > > I just went through an upgrade again.. (Someone accidentally set KDE source > to latest on a box, and the next guy went upgrade ) I should also note that the issue about korganizer swallowing your existing .ics is still present, so back it up first. As well, menu item issues exist as well. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: KDE Sources for 3.1.4 on Woody gone?
On October 3, 2004 08:27 pm, Nick Boyce wrote: > That's curious and alarming .. thanks for that heads-up. In fact > I see the oldest Debian binaries there are for 3.2.2 - even though > 3.1.5 and 3.2.1 branches are present, they no longer contain any debs. I just went through an upgrade again.. (Someone accidentally set KDE source to latest on a box, and the next guy went upgrade ) 3.1.4 -> latest If you are going to try.. start off by replacing the 3.1.4 source line to.. deb http://download.kde.org/stable/latest/Debian stable main deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xfree86 woody main deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/debian-openoffice/ woody-test main contrib And do a remove of openoffice.org1.1-mimelnk, as that deb is left installed.. Do it first will save you some troubles.. Remember, this upgrades Xfree, so be ready for a lot of questions.. In our case we lost.. kdepim-libs kivio koffice-libs libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev openoffice.org1.1 openoffice.org1.1-bin openoffice.org1.1-debian-files openoffice.org1.1-help-en openoffice.org1.1-l10n-en qt3-dev-tools xpdf xpdf-reader And after install we had the following held back.. libnspr4 libnss3 libpaperg mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm xlibmesa-dev aspell debhelper 'aspell' had to remove.. 'debhelper' worked by doing apt-get install 'libpaperg' worked by doing apt-get install 'xlibmesa-dev' worked by doing an apt-get install The mozilla stuff won't install, as it has dependency issues.. However, I think we can move to firefox or similar.. So an 'apt-get remove libnspr4 libnss3 mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm' cleaned the system up to a stable state again. Then install 'mozilla-firefox' if you want.. But the upgrade was a lttle easier this time than last.. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: Supported Upgrade Path(s) To Debian Sarge KDE ?
It would be handy.. since almost everyone seems to have moved up to 3.1.4, that this get considered for testing as well. On October 4, 2004 12:27 am, Chris Cheney wrote: > On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 04:27:19AM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote: > > FAO: the Debian KDE maintainers > > > > If possible, could someone please post some details of the intended > > supported upgrade paths for users of Woody with KDE 3.x.y systems to > > the eventual release of Sarge with KDE 3.2.3/3.3 (whichever it turns > > out to be) ? > > The only official (tested) upgrade path will be from Woody, at least as > far as I know. > > Chris -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
KDE Sources for 3.1.4 on Woody gone?
I noticed that the 3.1.4 sources have dissappeared from download.kde.org for We still have a few problems on the upgrade path to 3.2 series on Woody, but clients are hollering about the 3.1.4 sources missing. Anyone know why/where the 3.1.xx series for Woody went? As well, is the debconf dependency error for 3.2.xx series fixed up? -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: kde 3 for woody no longer available
On August 10, 2004 02:05 pm, jumpstarter wrote: > deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main Try .. deb http://download.kde.org/stable/latest/Debian stable main If you are daring, read previous threads on issues with dependencies. > but rather than complain I will now download all the tar balls for kde3 and > install from those. > > laters. Oh, and BTW, you should look at some of the newer methods of building kde rather than from tarballs.. Oh, and next time something changes, remember, you can always open up your browser, and follow the source tree, and you will see if indeed they are removed.. Often a readme will tell you what happened. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On August 6, 2004 02:43 pm, Matej Cepl wrote: > On Friday 06 of August 2004 03:12, Michael Peddemors wrote: > > But that requires a recent debconf, > 1.2.9 which doesn't get installed > > using only the 3.2.2 sources, and kde woody sources.. And if I manually > > get the deb for 1.4.30 then it needs the b version of dialog, which > > screws everything up. > > deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable debconf (I have 1.2.25 from > there). > > Matej Thanks, but from a dependency standpoint, you still have to pin it. Otherwise it wants to take the debconf from kde in precedence.. It would be nice if that was fixed, then with this simple apt list.. deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb http://download.kde.org/stable/latest/Debian stable main The average person can keep up with his `apt-get upgrade` and still have the latest KDE. Oh, and of course add that new source for OO that you previously sent. ;) -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On August 5, 2004 06:12 pm, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Thanks, the dependency problem was there. > > ii xfree86-common 4.3.0.dfsg.1-0.woody X Window System (XFree86) Spoke maybe too soon, as debconf still is an issue.. debconf on the download.kde.org site requires the 0.9b-20020814-1 version of dialog.. which is marked as a conflict (the older version), so apt-get will try to remove it, which chain reacts.. The only version of dialog 0.9b available that I can find, and none in either the download.kde.org or standard woody packages, requires newer libc6 stuff. So either the debconf maintainer on the kde.org site, should make a dialog available, or change the dependency :) .. but nothing except `apt-get upgrade` and `apt-get install debconf`. are affected now, even kdebase went in.. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On August 4, 2004 03:27 pm, Matej Cepl wrote: > On Wednesday 04 of August 2004 04:27, Michael Peddemors wrote: > > A major part of this is the backports for xfree86 that are needed, which > > were needed to install 3.2.2, but even things like openoffice1.1 need > > older packages. fontconfig which is needed by a bunch of stuff, comes > > OO from > deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/debian-openoffice/ woody-test main contrib That source for OO went.. > > deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xfree86 woody main > > There are packages for 4.3.0 @ download.kde.org -- it's better to use them. Thanks, the dependency problem was there. ii xfree86-common 4.3.0.dfsg.1-0.woody X Window System (XFree86) But that requires a recent debconf, > 1.2.9 which doesn't get installed using only the 3.2.2 sources, and kde woody sources.. And if I manually get the deb for 1.4.30 then it needs the b version of dialog, which screws everything up. Going back to the version from download fixed this problem. Now kdeprint happily installs. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
The last approved KDE version on Woody that we would approve for our support clients was 3.1.4 also.. I have never yet got a woody box up without complications on 3.2.2, however grateful to Andrea we are for those debs.. And by the looks of it, we will move to sarge before this is resolved.. A major part of this is the backports for xfree86 that are needed, which were needed to install 3.2.2, but even things like openoffice1.1 need older packages. fontconfig which is needed by a bunch of stuff, comes from the new xfree stuff, and conflicts with needed packages.. and kdebase, reports that it needs newer versions of packages, which are installed but for some reason not detected, that i havent' had time to resolve.. (Actually, kdebase relies on kdeprint, which relies on gv, which relies on gs, which relies on gs-common, which relies on defoma, which relies on dialog, which wants to replace everything in order to upgrade on this machine, because debconf relies on it, and dialog got corrupted in the update to 3.2.2 in the first place somehow when upgrading to new xfree) Now it seems that the debconf installed wants at least dialog 9b, but apt-get still wants to install 9a, so manually trying to install 9b says that I need a newer libc6 than what will install via apt-get, so at the end of the day, I end up with a libc6 conflict. apt-get -f install said remove dialog, which I did :)) Now all I have is a fontconfig which won't upgrade, so I did a remove (tried), but it complained about xlibs.. So I tried an 'install' on fontconfig, and it wanted gsfonts-x11, but that could not go in, because Depends: xutils (>= 4.1.0-12) but xutils is already at 4.3.0.dfsg.1-0.woody. Go figure.. Dependency hell... At least with apt-cache and dpkg, we can see what the problems are.. If you can wade through it all) We had to do like everyone else, and start aiming for sarge and not woody anymore for the clients, if we want them to keep up to date with a simple 'apt-get update/upgrade' Using deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xfree86 woody main deb http://download.kde.org/woody/3.2.3/Debian stable main On August 3, 2004 05:59 pm, Nick Boyce wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 21:44:12 +0200, Henning Moll wrote: > >Hmm, to all participants of this list: Which KDE backport for woody are > >you using? > > My machines (one at home, several at work) are all using the 3.1.4 > debs for Woody from download.kde.org. > > The 3.2.2 debs won't install on these boxes without major pain (well > it looks like that ... the simulation was enough to scare me off - see > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/07/msg00121.html), which _may_ > be due to me having XFree86 4.2.1 from www.backports.org installed. > > BTW: the only other backports I have installed are Kopete from > http://kopete.creativa.cl/debian/woody/, and Eloy Paris's Samba from > http://people.debian.org/~peloy/samba/ > > Cheers > Nick Boyce > Bristol, UK > -- > C isn't that hard: void (*(*f[])())() defines f as an array of > unspecified size, of pointers to functions that return pointers to > functions that return void. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: libxcursor1 on download.kde.org
I just went throught that, and followed Andreas suggestion, added: deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xfree86 woody main to my sources list, and got pas that.. I have ran into some other challenges with some of the packages that depend on xlibs OR the newer libs from that depository, but it did get my system into some kind of stability again, but I am still missing a bunch of packages which don't seem to honour the dependencies correctly yet.. On July 22, 2004 07:12 pm, Dale E Martin wrote: > The version of libxcursor1 on download.kde.org is 1.0.2-1woody2. However, > the kmid package (and others) there depends on version >> 1.1.2 - any ideas > on how to work around this? I think that the current set of packages are > not installable. > > Please Cc me any replies. > > Thanks, > Dale > -- > Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. > Senior Computer Engineer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.cliftonlabs.com > pgp key available -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: Kmail lost body of mails
These are usually ghosts of messages that were sent, or moved, but the index still had a record of them.. You can either drop the index, and let it reindex, or simply delete them. This is a long standing issue.. PS, *grumble* Just lost kaddressbook directory, and all it's contents, did a file system check, and the only thing reported was a fifo gone south.. Kaddressbook now eats a ton of memory, and doesn't recreate the local directory... You think I would have learned to do regular backups while testing new KDE's after I lost my organizer on the last upgrade, but this wasn't to do with any upgrade.. Whoah is me.. On May 11, 2004 03:25 pm, Martin Wegmann wrote: > hello, > > I tried to set up an imap account when Kmail chrashed, afterwards approx. > 1/4 of my mails are set to "no subject", sender. "unknown" and the body is > empty. > The weird thing is that the majority of my mails are unaltered. Is there > any way to recover my "unbodied" mails? > > using debian testing/unstable, Kmail 1.6.2, Kde 3.2.2 > > TIA, cheers Martin > > > - > please send me a CC when replying -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: Konqueror password dialog
You might want to check that the popup isn't in behind the current konqueror window. Another buggy behavior is that when you hit cancel on kwallet, the page you are on will minimize if there is another konqueror window open, ie the focus goes to the first konqueror window, rather thna the previously active one. On April 27, 2004 11:09 am, Yannick Roehlly wrote: > Hi everybody! > > Before reporting to the BTS, I prefer to post here to see if it's a real > bug. > > Since the 3.2.2 update (I think but I'm not 100% sure), konqueror no > longer pops up the dialog box asking for a username and a password when > accessing to a web site requiring it. Kwallet asks if it can fill the > fields but then konqueror keeps "waiting for the site answer". > > That's not a problem of the contacted site as the same behaviour > appends with several site and with Mozilla it's OK. > > Does anyone has the same bug? > > Yannick -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..
Not to start a flame, but upgrading only KDE from a 3.2.0 to a 3.2.2 would not be expected to be a major upgrade.. PS, the problem with the OpenOffice compatability still exists on Woody with 3.2.2, because of the libfreetype.. What apt sources do use for OpenOffice that doens't have these issues? On April 20, 2004 09:09 am, Dominique Devriese wrote: > Michael Peddemors writes: > > If you notice, I am NOT using unstable, but WOODY.. Again, I am > > doing testing of the upgrade, for our clients are going to run into > > the same issues.. This is to point out that there are some > > dependency problems that prevent an apt-get upgrade, or apt-get > > install in moving to this version of KDE.. > > > > I have the ability to deal with these issues, others on the list may > > not. > > Perhaps you missed the point of my last mail: > > DO NOT USE APT-GET FOR MAJOR UPGRADES ! > > cheers > domi -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..
On April 20, 2004 01:14 am, you wrote: > Michael Peddemors writes: > > Korganizer ate my calendar.. (Backup your .ics, actually my fault, > > anyone upgrading should always backup their .kde directory, JUST IN > > CASE, however it still should not have ate it.) > > Can you file a bug report about that on bugs.kde.org, so people there > can try to diagnose and fix ? I always tend to file bug reports.. :) First of all, you can see that this is just a general idea so others who are going to jump in and try an 'apt-get upgrade' might face... Also, the > First of all, apparently you're using "apt-get install" for upgrading > packages. This is a bad idea. Use dselect, aptitude, synaptic, these > do a much better job at automatically handling dependencies. The packages themselves are meant to handle dependencies, that is the beauty of Debian isn't it? > That of course has nothing to do with KDE. However, you need to > remove the old openoffice.org1.1-bin, as it is replaced by > openoffice.org-bin. See above, this would have been fixed by a proper > pkg mgt tool. I expected that, that is why the dependency forced a certain version of libfreetype. But others may not expect it. > > kdeaddons won't install... Not sure why.. (Actually, NOW it does, > > but only after installing kdeaddons-kfile-plugins, not sure why that > > didn't automagically work) Again, this is to point out that 'apt-get upgrade' doesn't work in this case, and people have to watch out. > > Lost 'psi' as it needs libqt3-mt, but that will remove > > everything.. as we now use libqt3c102-mt (Strange the naming for > > qt3-dev-tools stayed the same) > > If you're going to be using unstable, you should also use psi from > unstable. See above: use a proper pkg mgt tool. If you notice, I am NOT using unstable, but WOODY.. Again, I am doing testing of the upgrade, for our clients are going to run into the same issues.. This is to point out that there are some dependency problems that prevent an apt-get upgrade, or apt-get install in moving to this version of KDE.. I have the ability to deal with these issues, others on the list may not. -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
KDE 3.2.2 for Woody... Careful upgrading..
Hmm.. THis was the worst KDE upgrade in a long while.. Had to delete 1/2 of KDE to get the upgrade to work, from KDE 3.2.0 to 3.2.2 Korganizer ate my calendar.. (Backup your .ics, actually my fault, anyone upgrading should always backup their .kde directory, JUST IN CASE, however it still should not have ate it.) OpenOffice no longer wants to install Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: openoffice.org1.1-bin: Depends: libfreetype6 (< 2.1.0) but 2.1.5-1woody2 is to be installed kdeaddons won't install... Not sure why.. (Actually, NOW it does, but only after installing kdeaddons-kfile-plugins, not sure why that didn't automagically work) Fonts all changed.. (maybe new defaults, and didn't keep the old settings.) Aspell no longer likes it.. I think I backed up a version? komba2 is now gone..(That I understand, I guess) Lost 'psi' as it needs libqt3-mt, but that will remove everything.. as we now use libqt3c102-mt (Strange the naming for qt3-dev-tools stayed the same) Something replaces kdepim-libs.. I had to remove that one, it got jammed up as well.. apt-get install aspell Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: aspell: Depends: aspell-bin but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages mistress:/home/michael# apt-get install aspell-bin Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libaspell15 The following packages will be REMOVED: libaspell10 libpspell4 The following NEW packages will be installed: aspell-bin libaspell15 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 398kB of archives. After unpacking 926kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Get:1 http://download.kde.org stable/main libaspell15 0.50.3-9woody10 [321kB] Get:2 http://download.kde.org stable/main aspell-bin 0.50.3-9woody10 [76.5kB] Fetched 398kB in 6s (59.4kB/s) (Reading database ... 33561 files and directories currently installed.) Removing libaspell10 ... Removing libpspell4 ... Selecting previously deselected package libaspell15. (Reading database ... 33488 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libaspell15 (from .../libaspell15_0.50.3-9woody10_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package aspell-bin. Unpacking aspell-bin (from .../aspell-bin_0.50.3-9woody10_i386.deb) ... Setting up libaspell15 (0.50.3-9woody10) ... Setting up aspell-bin (0.50.3-9woody10) ... -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
KDE 3.2.2 packages..
FYI Upgrading from 3.2.0 and getting some troubles .. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4% 3a3.2.2-0.credativ.1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/servicetypes/dcopcalendar.desktop', which is also in package kdepim-libs -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
Re: Upgrade problem 3.1.4 -> 3.2 on Woody
Topic seemed right, so I thought I would add my own issue.. When upgrading woody/kde 3.1.4 to 3.2, everything went well.. (Course apt-get upgrade wasn't going to work flawlessly, because of added package dependencies) Only problem I had, was when upgrading organizer, that old kalarm/korganizer dependency issue seemed to come back.. I had to do a apt-get remove korganizer and apt-get remove kalarm to get korganizer to install. Oh, and when I started korganizer, it didn't startup with my previously active calendar file. Other than that, no problems so far.. Well, except for a Konqueror bug I just reported visiting: http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html :) -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Systems Developer LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.
[OT] Re: Spam because of this list
Again, as mentioned by many people, if you don't want Spam, use and ISP service that provides Spam blocking.. If you can't use an ISP with that service, buy a POP address from any of the ISP's that sell just POP mailboxes with full Anti-Spam features.. (Usually about $5/month) This is an issue of Spamming, and not of this list, or especially the topic of this list. I know that new legislation is being proposed in most countries, to ensure that ISP's help to control Spam, both incoming and outgoing. And asking the list to control Spam, well.. It's like the old argument.. Police shouldn't tell people to put dead bolts on doors; really what we should be working towards people should be able to leave their doors open.. It's the thieves that are at fault, not the home owners, and that's where our emphasis should be... -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Importing Addresses into KMail
On October 3, 2003 02:52 pm, Christof Hurschler wrote: > 2000 into Kmail? It's practically the only issue keeping me from never > booting w2k at home again. I'd like to occasionally update my home machine > to the data I have at work, the calendar would be great too, but I could You have no Calendar?? `apt-get install korganizer` right away :) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: kdelibs4-dev and XFree86 4.3.0
I think if you have a need for bleeding edge, consider helping by moving to testing/sarge.. The more people we get onto testing the faster we can see these packages in 'stable' :) With X 4.3 and KDE 3.1.4 most of your system is beyond the purposes of woody already.. 3.1.4 for woody will probably always only have dependencies on products from woody. Otherwise you or the packager of the backport will have to provide any packages that have dependencies on them, including KDE 3.1.4 > i have installed the Daniel Stone Backport of XFree86 4.3.0 Packages from > http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/ on my Woody-System. > Yesterday i upgraded my System to the brand new KDE 3.1.4 Packages from > ftp.kde.org. But the Package kdelibs4-dev couldn't be upgraded and now i -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE 3.1.3 For Woody: Scrollbar Bug Fixed ?
Just wondering, this one snuck in.. didn't see the original post, but Ralf, when you get a version out like this, can you post a general release info to the list? IE RELEASED: with appropriate URL's for sources, and a brief change log? A lot of people would benifit from that I believe.. On September 16, 2003 03:37 pm, Dirk Schmidt wrote: > Am Dienstag, 16. September 2003 07:38 schrieb Ralf Nolden: > > We've packaged KDE 3.1.4 over the last week until yesterday so this week > > (other packagers are still working :-) we'll get KDE 3.1.4 released for > > woody in i386, powerpc and alpha archs. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Timetable on Woody/KDE updates.. Need to get a crash fix in
Anyone know when next updates are coming out for Woody/KDE 3.1.2? Problems with plugins causing konqueror crashes has apparantly been fixed, and we are starting to get more and more sites using Adobe Forms which trigger this crash. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
KDE Konqueror, and Adobe plugin.
I registered a bug with KDE, about this, (Crash using Adobe Plugin with mime type application/vnd.fdf in konqueror) and they mentioned something about a bug where konqueror crashes with unknown mime types. I get the crash whether I add the mime type manually to associations, and it doens't matter if I use the plugin, or if I use the application directly. They say something about this bug being fixed, but uncertain whether the fix was backported. Any one know if this bug is still present in KDE 3.1.2 Debian/Woody? The backtrace does show the crash happens just after the mime type handler gets called. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
kpersonalizer Debian Woody, KDE 3.12
Filed a bug report, but this may be Debian Specific. kpersonalizer works perfectly, when run on a new user, but once the user has run it once, and you try to run it again, it uses 100% of memory, before getting killed. Anyone else running into this? Repeatable on every Woody installation we have. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 15:43, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do > > we need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? > > KDE 3.* was and will never be in woody. It's in an unofficial > apt repository ;) It's save to downgrade to 1.1.14. (as long as > you don't use new cups 1.1.18 features) to downgrade to 1.1.14. > Did it some weeks ago without any problems. > > Achim > Okay, maybe not 'official' to debian, but to the world at large, when you see an apt source like... deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main That makes it look pretty well supported and 'stable' And face it, we all want the KDE 3.1.x series, thought I would post it here to see if we can get those dependencies worked out, and placed in the same source locations as the ../stable/3.1.2/Debian, while waiting for sarge. Still want a 'stable' system, but with a decent UI I bet if you took a survery here, not many are using 2.2 anymore.. And too many people are having to go to unstable, just to get the bugfixes in the user interface dealt with. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
When nolden debs where out there, I know that he used the version.. Package: libcupsys2 Versions: 1.1.18-1woody2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) but libcupsys2-dev relies on libcupsys2-dev: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.14-4.4) but 1.1.18-1woody2 is to be installed.. Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do we need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Not really for the Dedian-KDE list but like to see a xine plugin for konqueror
Just upgraded to KDE 3.1.2, and everything seems okay, but decided I should try out viewing WMV's in Konqueror.. Mplayer and Mplayer plugins didn't do quite what I wanted, and since I see indications that xine is the favoured direction, did an.. apt-get install libdirectfb-0.9-15 libflash0 xine-ui And then realized that the xine-mozilla-plugin is not available as a package yet, so just saved a WMV to file, and tried to run it from command line, and caboom. Strace reveals.. metronom: waiting for audio discontinuity #3 metronom: audio discontinuity #3, type is 2, disc_off 268740 metronom: audio vpts adjusted with prebuffer to 944151 metronom: waiting for in_discontinuity update #3 metronom: video vpts adjusted to 944151 )= 1 (in [3]) read(3, "\1\2h\33\0\0\0\0\v\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 32) = 32 kill(31804, SIGRTMIN) = 0 kill(31804, SIGRTMINyuv2rgb: using 2*zoom optimized scale_line ) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [ALRM RTMIN], 8) = 0 rt_sigsuspend([ALRM] --- SIGRTMIN (Real-time signal 0) --- <... rt_sigsuspend resumed> ) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) sigreturn() = ? (mask now [ALRM RTMIN]) ioctl(3, 0x541b, [0]) = 0 read(3, 0xbfffeed8, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, NULL)= ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted) --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE 3.1.2???
On Monday 19 May 2003 23:53, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Dienstag, 20. Mai 2003 06:58, L. A. Linden Levy wrote: > > What is the new .deb source for kde3.1 I noticed that Ralf's went > > down. > > See > > http://www.kde.org/info/3.1.2.php > > KDE 3.1.2 is available for i386, powerpc and alpha architectures from > download.kde.org. Only problem is the source the give you doesn't work on many of the mirrors yet.. Use the main download.kde.org site for this. Failed to fetch http://download.us.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Okay, is this a temp source glitch?
Old sources for kde at source.. say 404 for Packages. deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable main Kde site now says the latest srouces are at http://download.us.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian but that gives problems too. (404) deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main Well, that one still seems happy. What do we do to keep up on sources for KDE now? :) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: klauncher complains about io-slave
On Wednesday 14 May 2003 09:43, SpArTaK wrote: > I had the same probelm but was whenever i swich to my nvidia driver and glx > kde and gnome would both have problems launching programs. Kde gave me the > specific errors u are getting. I posted alover the place and did not figure > anything out finally i replaced my video card a ELSA GF2 ULTRA and that > fixed it. > -- Vladi > > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 04:02 am, Petr Simon wrote: > > Hi, > > I changed my email address for my debian mailing lists, cause lists > > stoped to come on my old address. Why? I don'y know. Does anyone? > > Anyway I have quite serious trouble. I did some installing and now I am > > get this when I run Konqueror (Home) > > > > Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: > > klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. > > > > and of course I see no directories. > > When I try to mount from deskrop icon I get this: > > > > Unable to create io-slave: > > klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. > > > > And I can't delete, copy or move neither in Krusader. > > What does it mean and what can I do about it > > Thanks > > Petr Double check your file-max settings in /proc.. Well, check the logs first and see if you maybe are hitting this. I think Debian should increase file-max in sysctl.conf by default as I see a lot of cases of this occurring, and almost should be a FAQ item -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Komba.. (More reasons why it has to reap mounts)
On Monday 28 April 2003 04:43, Derek Broughton wrote:
> And, no I don't think automount would be the analogue on Linux. On Windows
> systems, those mounts are accomplished at user login time, by a script run
> when you try to connect to the network. The user can then choose to
> perform his own mounts ("map network drive"). At logout time, all shares
> are dismounted - and user-mounted shares _may_ be automatically remounted
> next login (users's choice). Of course, just because this is how windows
> works, doesn't mean it's the way Komba _should_ work, but I tend to agree
> that it should require some extra effort on a user's part to mount a
> persistent share as it doesn't matter how much "education" users get,
> they're simply not going to bother unmounting a share if they don't have
> to. otoh, does it really matter if mounts are ever "reaped", whether by
> Komba or any daemon?
>
> derek
Well, as I mentioned we need a way for people to only see THEIR mounted
shares, in a Thin Client environment, and that would solve part of it, but if
you have a system with fifty users, and 10 shares apiece, that never get
reaped, pain in the butt dealing with them after hours.. Be nice to know
that noone is using the shares when doing upgrades etc. on a server running
24/7.
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Re: Prelinking Debian KDE - Big Problem ?
On Saturday 26 April 2003 18:45, Nick Boyce wrote: > "This article goes into detail on optimizing KDE for speed. Typically, > most distributions include pre-compiled binaries of KDE which are > optimized for an Intel i386 computer. Chances are that you're running > something faster than this; if so, this should help you tweak the > compile process to speed things up a bit." > > The article itself is at : > http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/kde.html Curious, has anyone reported % speed increases, or any other quantative data on speed improvements when the qt library is compiled for 686 -O3 vs the standard 386 compilation in the packages? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Komba.. (More reasons why it has to reap mounts)
On Friday 25 April 2003 15:33, Paul Cupis wrote: > > Yes, but both have to be handled. Can you think of a basic premise > > where if a user doesn't have a process running, he needs the mounts > > still? > > Cron jobs, delayed execution of programs/scripts. Still, default in user land should NOT be to leave these around, and hard mount them if they are going to need this type of behavior. > It can unmount them - doesn't necessarily mean it should reap them. > Perhaps you feel the same way about the other mount tools, and smbmount > GUIs? Yep, but the tool I am dealig with is Komba :) Each mount tool shoudl deal with this issue. Maybe a userland .kde mtab that takes precedence over /etc/mtab? Every KDE app at least can use the same one. > > Educate the users, then? They must have been educated enough to _mount_ > the shares, why not unmount them? Hehehe I see you don't work in the real world.. I hear this often from Linux Developers, but in the real world hard enough to get them to follow simple rules. If they (average office user) can find a way to screw it up, assume they will :) > Some special operation? Like mounting the shares? I assume you mean that > auto-reaped shares should be the default, persistant shares should be > an option? Exactly... But ps, automount won't work (Don't think).. it's great for making a cdrom or floppy available, when you know the path .. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Komba.. (More reasons why it has to reap mounts)
On Wednesday 23 April 2003 06:22, Paul Cupis wrote: > Deleted users if a much different scenario than users who have logged > off and left 'long' running processes running. Yes, but both have to be handled. Can you think of a basic premise where if a user doesn't have a process running, he needs the mounts still? And even if there is a case for that, it is an exeption to the rule, and not the norm. > > Well, we should be able to detect if > > 1) the user has active processes > > 2) the user is logged in (Actually that will be covered by 1) > > > > If not, the mount can be reaped. > > How do you propose to reap the mounts? This is not, AFAIK, something > which komba is concerned with. I heard that, but if the program is used to mount the shares, it should be able to look after unmounting them.. > Description: KDE Samba browser > Komba2 is a GUI machine and share browser for the > SMB protocol. Komba2 allows you to scan any number > of subnets for machines with SMB. The workgroups, > machines and share are shown in a tree-view. > For each machine you can then view the list of > shares, and mount, unmount or browse them. You can > If you want users to unmount things when they log off, perhaps this > could be added as an option to komba ( [X] Always unmount upon logoff > ), but it should not be on by default. if you want unused mounts on > your system to be unmounted, you need some daemon to do that. I am nt > currently aware of any such daemon, though I'm sure one could be coded. > But unmounting something accidentally or incorrectly could be > disasterous. It needs to be addressed, in any case, and if at least any mounts created by Komba were reaped when unused, then we would be a long way. Any shares mounted manually, (ie not via Komba) it doesn't have to deal with.. Then noone has to deal with the whole debian system logic as a whole, and deal with it strictly in the package that handles 'mounting and unmounting'. Maybe a seperate 'mtab style' record keeping, and a cron job to clean them would be the simplest, or a Komba Reaper Daemon, and this could have 'as an option' the ability to clean up system mounts, but this should not be the default. > Perhaps automatic unmounting-upon-closing-komba could be added as a They already have that.. > user-definable option, but I think that would be a bad idea. One should > not have to have komba running the entire time one wants to use a share > mounted _via_ komba. Having an unmount-upon-logoff would be better, but Yes, precisely > would require some part of komba to be called upon KDE logoff to do the > unmounting. But that doesn't handle disco's So a reaper would have to be in place anyways, so might as well let the reaper do all the work. As well, it may need to be at the user logoff, and not KDE logoff, however that might be more satisfying for those liking 'Microsoft Style' > I can understand the problem you percieve, but I do not agree with your > proposed solutions. Users should unmount shares when they have finished SHOULD??? We aren't dealing with educated users, and expecting 100 users to remember to do this every day on an xterminal system is impractical. > with them. If they do not unmount them, perhaps they had a good reason No, it shoudl be that if they have a NEED to keep shares opened after all their tasks are completed, they should perform some special operation to do so, but this SHOULD NOT be the default behavior in a robust system. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Komba..
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 15:13, Paul Cupis wrote: > > Because the user is no longer logged in. The mounts mounted under > > their home directories are of no use to the system or any other user, > > until they log back in. > > What if they are still running processes which might be using those > mounts? Okay, how best to handle this. If a server is running 24/7 for years, and users have long since been deleted, why should their shares still be mounted? > In Microsoft Windows, AFAIK, when one logs off, all of their user > processes are terminated. This is not necessarily the case on > non-Microsoft systems. Assuming that it is the case is wrong. Well, we should be able to detect if 1) the user has active processes 2) the user is logged in (Actually that will be covered by 1) If not, the mount can be reaped. Or, at least we can make it a configuration option, so that the person who is installing the package can choose the behavior. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Komba..
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 12:17, you wrote: > Le 22/04/03 à 15:14 Michael Peddemors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait : > > Same here, but I thought we could do some debian specific stuff, like > > adding a cron entry to cleanup orphaned mounts etc.., ensure that mounts > > are unmounted on logout/disconnect etc.. > > How could you be sure a mount is orphaned ? If the user who mounted the share is not logged on anymore. > Why should mount be unmouted on disconnect ? Because the user is no longer logged in. The mounts mounted under their home directories are of no use to the system or any other user, until they log back in. > That is clearly not the purpuse of komba, sorry ! Uh, but it seems the exact use of Komba, to mount shares under their home directories when they need them, and to unmount them when they disconnect. There is an option to remount shares on logon. When you mount via Komba, with 50 users mounting 60 shares, we have a lot of unused mounts. In windows, when you disconnect, the smb connections are dropped when you disconnect. So when a user disconects, it should close the mount, when they login again, the shares will get remounted. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Komba..
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 11:55, you wrote: > Le 22/04/03 à 14:40 Michael Peddemors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait : > I am really sorry, but I will not be able to provide you an help, > because I am only the maintenair off komba into Debian. And I have no > more contact with the upstream. I've tried to contact him, but I didn't > get any response. :( Same here, but I thought we could do some debian specific stuff, like adding a cron entry to cleanup orphaned mounts etc.., ensure that mounts are unmounted on logout/disconnect etc.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Komba..
I got an email bounced back, does anyone have the maintainers email for komba/stable? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Problems with Mouse on KDE
On Monday 14 April 2003 11:17, Black Norab wrote: > I'm working on a notebook and experienced some problems with my > touchpad. The mouse halts (and reactivates itself after some time) or > vanishes completely. I had the same problems under Win2K and WinXP but > by far not that often. > To get the mouse back I have to kill the xserver or just logout and in > again. > > This might be a hardware bug but it would be nice to reinitialise the > mouse without a kde/xserver restart. Is there a way to do this? > > I'm working on Sid with KDE 3.1.1 and the default ps2 driver (is there > any spezial touchpad driver?) We are experiencing some problems with this as well, but we have not been able to find a ryhme or reason to it as yet. Using KDM with Debian Stable/KDE 3.1.1 and running xterminals loose the mouse occasionally, and we have to reboot the thin clients to get the mouse back active again.. The only error I haven't yet tracked down that is reported, and not sure if it is related, is kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: Sym::initQt( 100b ): failed to convert key. (Would be nice for a time stamp on that one) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: lisa package
On Monday 14 April 2003 15:38, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > > Why don't we have regular smb browsing? That's all I need.. :( > Might have missed something.. but doesn't Komba suit your needs? Works fairly simple.. The only problem I have seen using this is in the multi user environment where we end up with EVERYONE's mounts displayed, and people get confused... Would be nice not to have to mount the shares at all, and simply browse them... :) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Printing Problems
On Thursday 03 April 2003 12:55, you wrote: > On Thursday 03 April 2003 22:33, Michael Peddemors wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 11:27, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > Can you check if the attached .ps prints correctly from your KDE stable > > installation? > > kghostview displays it just fine, so does kprinter in the printing preview > (which according to Kurt Pfeifle should give the exact results just like on > the printer - I printed to pdf and selected preview) You may want to check > the preview too. > > Ralf I lie, KGhostView isn't found on my stable installation, would think that a dependency should have take care of that BTW, and it says it can't find any other external PostScript viewer, which is more strange as 'gv' is always there So I didnt' get a preview Ah well... So I installed `apt-get install kghostview` and.. -- Previews completely fine... -- Click the "Print" button from the viewer, and nothing again via CUPS... 'No Pages Found' Kurt might be slightly wrong :) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Printing Problems
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:16, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > So this means that kde is working ok, that is the .ps output is valid. I > had problems w/ apps that put out invalid .ps in the past. This is not the > case here. Still not sure why one .ps file generated by Konqueror causes this problem, while another doesn't. Going to install Mozilla on stable to see if problem is on both browsers. > I suspect that there is a problem w/ the printer config under cups. > However, did you say that some jobs were able to print? Sorry, I was not > sure. I thought you meant that only certain pages, such as asp could not > print. Is this true? From what I know about this now, I'm guessing pure > html would be a problem as well. Just a guess. No, I print a file from a straight HTML page, and compare the .ps from that an a PHP page, but can't see where a difference might be, but sending the .ps that I passed on to you, won't print to CUPS, with CUPS saying no pages found, even though the progress meter shows 2 pages being sent to CUPS > I looked at the file and it looks great, well as good as .ps files do > under gs. :) Does it print for you to CUPS? > I'm assuming you have an HP laser printer. Right? This is good news, as > these printers are dead easy to configure and debug under linux (compared > w/ inkjets). > Here are my guesses for now: > > 1. Printer is not configured correctly. Test: can you print _any_ .ps > files properly? If yes, then which ones? How do printable ones differ from > non-printable ones? Dont' agree with this, as other konqueror generated pages do print correctly. > 2. Level of .ps is not compatible w/ the printer you are using. This one > bit me. The .ps standard has a few levels. I force all my output to level > 1 as I have a cheap laser printer. Still no response to how to define the level of .ps -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Printing Problems
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 09:49, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > > >From Konqueror, some web pages, including ASP and PHP generated pages > > > when you > > > > hit print, brings up the dialog, and correctly shows printing pages to > > the CUPS defined printers, but absolutely no output. Works on static > > pages.. > > Let's find out where this problem is, kde or printing drivers themselves. > > Try saving the page to .ps, then opening up in gs. What do they look like? > What happens when you lpr, the generated .ps files? > > Fred Thanks Fred for the timely response, and simple diagnostic directions, I didn't think of. Printing to a .ps file results in a printout that is viewable in 'gv', but trying an lpr -PHPLaserjet on the file results in nothing being sent to the printer. Looking at the completed jobs listing in CUPS shows that the jobs have been aborted.. Using the standard HP LaserJet Series CUPS v1.1 driver, and printer status shows 'No Pages Found' Sending the .ps file to you privately for perusal. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Printing Problems
I looked over the threads, and either I am missing something, or this seems a little different, running Stable and latest Nolden debs From Konqueror, some web pages, including ASP and PHP generated pages when you hit print, brings up the dialog, and correctly shows printing pages to the CUPS defined printers, but absolutely no output. Works on static pages.. Any ideas? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Languages on the list (Was: qt3 selbst compilieren)
On Thursday 20 March 2003 14:51, Felix Homann wrote: > However, if somebody joins the list and asks a question in whatever > language other than English I'm led to believe that this somebody might > have difficulties to state the question in English or to understand answers > in English. So, should we not help him? What about copying and pasting the question into http://babelfish.altavista.com into English, responding in English, and offering a link to translate?? Or try to post in both English and the language of the questioner? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE woody debs on CD ?
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:24, Ralf Nolden wrote: > Donating to KDE and Debian helps if you don't want to program or translate > or help out otherwise, and making everyone donate (at least advising to > donate) that you give a copy. > Thanks for the reminder.. Just asked the secretary to make sure that LinuxMagic donates... I know that Ralf has presonally and directly saved us money, just on this list alone by jumping on bug fixes quickly.. But, those donations may not trickle on down to him directly.. So, if you can't donate, make sure you send Ralf and others lots of thanks now and then..Makes those other offtime hours they spend a little easier I am sure. Of course, maybe we should thank their bosses as well :) > Yes. A german Linux support company where most of us are developers - KDE > or Debian or both :-) And their address to pass kudos ?? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Outstanding KDE3.1 problems
Not sure what your/the problem is but, I have no problem using smb://wizard Using stable with Nolden sources.. 3.1.1 > > konqueror: > > An error occured while loading smb://wido: > > Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: > > klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_smb'. > > I get the same thing here. Something is broken, methinks... The smb > browsing was working in KDE 2.2.2, but has been broken for me since my > upgrade to KDE 3.1. I am using the packages in SID and from Chris > Cheney's personal site. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Nolden Wine Package Version for Stable
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:36, Michael Peddemors wrote: > http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/wine > > I seem to be missing a file that was suggested to me should be there.. > winspool.drv.so doesn't seem to be in this installation. Can any one > confirm this? > -- DOH!! apt-get install libwine-print.. Sorry to answer my own query.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Nolden Wine Package Version for Stable
http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/wine I seem to be missing a file that was suggested to me should be there.. winspool.drv.so doesn't seem to be in this installation. Can any one confirm this? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates
The Printing source dealt with the libcupsys issue, but now we have still have a problem with 4 packages being held back. Probably cupsys problem but before I can get to that, getting an error. Ralf might be in the middle of more updates.. Fetched 37.4MB in 8m50s (70.4kB/s) Failed to fetch http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/kde/kdelibs/kdelibs-bin_3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb Size mismatch Failed to fetch http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/kde/kdelibs/kdelibs-data_3.1.1-0woody1_all.deb Size mismatch apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back cupsys samba-common smbclient smbfs -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates
On Friday 14 March 2003 08:36, Sven Bergner wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > I had the same problem. The apt-line you need is > http://ktown.kde.org/nolden/Printer woody main That's a Typo.. deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/Printing looks better :) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Ralf's latest.. Sorry.. Should have specified which packages
The following pacakges are indicated ready for upgrade. file kdebase-data libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-xine libartsc0 libgpgme6 libmimelib1 Trying an upgrade for these results in all of the 'heldback' pacakges in the last email. This of course is Ralf's stable.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates
Hmmm.. a lot of packages seem to be kept back with an 'apt-get upgrade' apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back ark artsbuilder cervisia kaboodle kaddressbook kappfinder kate kaudiocreator kcalc kcontrol kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker kjots klipper kmail kmenuedit kmid kmidi kmix konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer krec kscd ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kuser kwin libarts1-mpeglib libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 mpeglib noatun 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 51 not upgraded. Need to get 3457kB of archives. After unpacking 36.9kB will be used. On Friday 14 March 2003 05:37, Ralf Nolden wrote: > Hi, > > just to let you know, I've updated my repository and set up the packages > files today. > > Please give it a go and update. If the update works fine so far, those > packages will be the ones going to the ftp servers for KDE 3.1.1 on woody. > > /etc/apt/sources.list: > -- > > KDE 3.1.1 + Ägypten: > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde woody main > > Updated KDE 3.1.1 packages and libgpgme6 (gpgme). Excluded for now are > quanta and kdebindings due to compile problems with qt-3.1.2. > > XFree86 4.3: > > The XFree 4.3 builds are updated to Daniels' -0ds3v1 build: > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/X11 woody main > > Known problems: > - > > If you are using KDE 2.2.2 from Woody and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 from my > repository everything should work fine. > > If you're using KDE 3.0.x and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 you should read > > http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README > > If you're using KDE 3.1.0 and upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 you will run into one > particular problem with kdepim. If you run into kdepim-libs not being > installable due to conflicts with other packages, remove those conflicting > packages first. > > kdepim is entering sid in exactly this way and there's unfortunately no > other way to avoid those problems other than that I would have added the > conflicts myself and maintain them extra (Chris didn't put them in, not for > 3.0-> 3.1.1 nor for 3.1.0 -> 3.1.1 because kdepim wasn't in sid ever for > 3.1.0). > > The good side of this is though that after you've made this transition to > my woody 3.1.1 packages you'll be in sync with unstable again (except the > Ägypten stuff which currently only reliably works with my woody builds). As > far as updating your machine to any later KDE version (or distribution > version after woody) goes, you can count on that will work painlessly. > > Please let us know if you have problems with those packages other than the > described conflicts that may occur. > > Ralf > > > -- > We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. > ---- > Ralf Nolden > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project > http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 16:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > I have to agree with Ben on this one. There are more negative aspects of > breaking out these headers than positive. I also think that when a user > (note user, not developer) wants to build a Qt based app they would assume > that installing the -dev package would be all they would need. Makes > sense. It's not the users job to try to figure header issues out. Disagree... User's don't 'build' apps.. devleopers do, even if they might be beginning developers... If it doens't compile using just -dev then it is a app that needs to be fixed, and they can help the debian movement by sorting this out :) Users barely handle apt-get :) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: KDE Multimedia - Latest updates.
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 15:55, Paul Cupis wrote: > Somebody has just recently asked this exact question. Please check the > lists before you post. > *Sheepish Grin* Must have deleted that thinking it had somethign to do with the other kdemultimedia issue .. but reviewing the list, you are right.. bad me.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
KDE Multimedia - Latest updates.
Just did an 'update' and 58 packages needed upgrading.. But a few faliures... kdemultimedia-kio-plugins had a problem, to do with kcm_audiocd.la in two packages, mpeglib had a problem conflicting with files from 'yaf' apt-get wanted to hold back kdemultimedia so I expected a problem, and can't install kdemultidia now at all. apt-get install kdemultimedia Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins The following NEW packages will be installed: kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (Reading database ... 25315 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (from .../kdemultimedia-kio-plugins_4%3a3.1.0-0woody3_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdemultimedia-kio-plugins_4%3a3.1.0-0woody3_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_audiocd.la', which is also in package kio-audiocd dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Selecting previously deselected package kdemultimedia. Unpacking kdemultimedia (from .../kdemultimedia_4%3a3.1.0-0woody3_all.deb) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdemultimedia-kio-plugins_4%3a3.1.0-0woody3_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Tried a remove but... apt-get remove kio-audiocd Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: kdemultimedia: Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (>= 4:3.1.0-0woody3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Memory Usage - KDE - Where is discussion on this?
Geez.. I could live with that.. Wonder how you got yours so low. Wondering if this is again related to the fonts.. Next install I will have to check it as I add each package.. :) But having said that about MG being used on initial startup, it doesn't do bad when adding apps to the load, except that kmail uses a lot if you render html emails, and the konqueror issue. Right now, with konqueror freshly fired up, and kmail running, with two shells.. A Typical load for an end user, and i get the following.. total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:127172 123024 4148 186556 2708 29472 -/+ buffers/cache: 90844 36328 Swap: 128516 2344 126172 NOTE: I tend to look at the 'used' column, as that would have tagged Swap if over pysical size, even though only 90 MG is currently used But give it a full day of work, and the leaks get me into swap on this machine and that's when I grumble :) But the point someone made about the comparision with Win95 remains valid.. Webbrowser, Email Client, (except maybe outlook :) running on a freshly booted machine can run on less hardware than the current KDE, albeit all the added advantages that the current KDE might have, at the end user level, there would definetly be a comparison made, and I would hate for the word 'bloated' to ever get associated to Linux in the press :) Of course, now comparing to an XP requirements might be more fair. But getting slightly off-topic.. Debian/KDE is strictly releated to Debian, and I guess this is more a general concern, to any Linux/X/KDE installation, but of course it may affect future decision makers, so I guess worth bringing up once in a while. Most of the products we (my company) deal with tend to be server products, rather than desktops, so they tend to have enough RAM that they can afford to throw away an extra 64 MG for desktops tools, if it makes it easier to use. And by the time this comes of a concern, desktop users may be all sitting with 4-8GIG of ram to spend, and if the developers can get out twice as many features/programs/tools at the expense of a little 'bloat' I for one am not going to shout too loud about the 'M evils' involved. Linux is growing up, and academic concerns vs marketing and other concerns might occasionally need to be sacrificed. But I can still dream can't I .. On Saturday 15 February 2003 10:34, Chris Cheney wrote: > On my laptop KDE 3.1 when started (even with ksysguard applet on kicker) > it only takes 43060K (see second line on free). That said I do think > there was or possibly still is some kind of memory leak but I don't know > where. > > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem:240196 109972 130224 0 5416 61496 > -/+ buffers/cache: 43060 197136 > Swap: 530104 0 530104 > > > Chris -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Memory Usage - KDE - Where is discussion on this?
Looking for a good forum for discussing memory usage.. Aside from the fact that konqueror seems to swallow an incredible mount of memory, and not release it, it seems that it is taking more and more memory, just to fire up the base functionality. A fresh boot of debian stable, to KDE 3.1, with just an xterm open results in 98 MG of memory being used. Oh, I know, memory is cheap, but that sounds like some other not to mentioned credo.. To just have a simple window manager up, I never would expect that kind of memory usage. Curious, are we sacrificing performance for other benifits? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: POP filters in KMail
Subscribe to an ISP that protects you at the server :) But yes, filters work, you just have to assign the correct actions to the filter. On Thursday 06 February 2003 14:15, Peter Clark wrote: > I like the idea, since I tend to get a lot of viruses and I'm on a > dial-up > connection, so I would like to get it working. > -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Problem with Wine/Arts and New KDE
I know this should go to the libwine maintainer, but anyone know a quicky way to resolve depency problems of wine using libarts (18 4:2.2.2-1) libarts-alsa (2 4:2.2.2-1) for depencines... installing libarts of course drops KDE .. Don't want to do that :) I think there was something on the list about handling this, but my search revealed nothing. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Only root can play sound
It would be even better, if someone talked to the adduser package maintainer, and have adduser package installation ask if you want people to be added to the 'audio' group by default or something to that effect, but this is the wrong list for that discussion :) Otherwise, if using kde for adding users, maybe the interface should handle things like default groups. It really depends on what the system is being used for. Same should go for other devices like cdrom's, usb devices whatever. On Monday 27 January 2003 14:55, David Pye wrote: > That's NOT the right way to fix it. > > You should add the user in question to the audio group. In Debian, the > permissions and ownership of /dev nodes is VERY carefully thought out. e.g. > want a user to be able to use the serial ports? Then add him to the > dialout group. > > At least doing it this way stops your friend with his guest account ssh'ing > into your box, and start playing mp3s at 3am for a 'laugh'! > > David > > On Monday 27 January 2003 21:33, R Sean Eidemiller wrote: > > > My box can only play sound if root has logged in, otherwise "a device > > > to play sound cannot be found" is reported. > > > > Make sure the file permissions for /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer are set to 666 > > (i.e. crw-rw-rw-) > > > > That's the first thing I would check. > > > > -Sean Eidemiller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Fresh Debian Stable install with nolden Woody - Small comments
Just a few notes .. Thought I would try an install as if I was a typical debian newbie.. And take notes along the way. Installed Debian Base. Did an 'apt-get update','apt-get upgrade' I find I can't do anything unless I can edit/look at files so I did a quick 'apt-get vim less' Now, I added the nolden source, and did another 'apt-get update' Okay, now I decide I need mail, so 'apt-get kmail' Hmm, okay in theory kmail can work like that, but as a user on a personal pc, it won't so did an 'apt-get xserver-svga' and went through the dpkg. Hmm, still can't get a window environment, the usual way, so did an 'apt-cache search startx' and it showed xbase-clients, so that makes sense and I do an 'apt-get xbase-clients' and noticed a problem with missing fonts so also did an 'apt-get install xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-scalable xfonts-scalable-nonfree' Tried to run startx and it complains that there is no /etc/X11/Xsession. This looks to be a problem 'It should just work now' At this point, it might frustrate a newbie, but okay, I do a 'man startx' I see that 'xinit' can start a session as well. Hmm.. Try that .. I get a no Xterm found.. Looking at the man page for xinit it says that that is the fallback default. If it is the fall back default shouldnt' have that been installed? Okay, at least I can fix that easy. 'apt-get install xterm' Hey, I now have a window, and I can type in kmail. h.. It fires up. But nothing seems to work correctly, and I can get/recieve mail, and can't resize the windows etc. Okay, it slowly sinks in that I need a better window manager Hmm.. maybe that's why I am missing Xsession. Okay, I see that, so lets get the kde window manager. 'apt-get install kdebase' Darn, no file called Xsession yet. Okay, but reading a little more I see that the file used to start KDE is called startkde, and doing a quick 'man startkde' reveals nothing, as the man page is not complete. Looking more carefully at the man pages for xinit and startx, I see that I can put a command in .xinitrc in my home directory, and it shoudl get called, so I add in 'startkde' to that file, and boom, up it comes. At this point, though.. I still have no /etc/X11/Xsession, and I am sure that this is a work around. As well, for some reason the backspace doesn't work in X, (works as delete) In conclusion, I can see some little things that should be fixed up yet so that people do not run into problems. Logs also show problems with a missing xftconfig as well. Primarily, I think that if kdebase is installed, it should ask if you want to make it the default window manager, and then deal with everything, so that a person knows they can just type in 'startx' and they will have a working KDE Just a few thoughts, in case it helps everyone, we forget the problems that newbies have after a while. --"Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Enhancement Request, Ralf's Sid Packages
Any timeline on getting kdemultimedia in your sid packages? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Printer module missing in KControl
Confirm you have cupsys installed. I did notice things worked slightly different, but once I installed the cupsys, kde connected no problem to localhost:631 for it's printing needs. On Wednesday 08 January 2003 07:27, Pablo de Vicente wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > I am using woody + newest KDE 3.1 packages from Ralf and I cannot use > kprinter. Indeed if I run kprinter from the konsole I get a freezed window > which shows nothing. KControl does not show me the Printer Manager module. > It is as if it were missing and did not existe. I usually use CUPS for > printing, but I have lost all printing capabilities from KDE 3.1. > > Can somebody confirm this behaviour please. > -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: sid version up
On Monday 06 January 2003 05:20, Marcos Dione wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/sid/i386/ ./ > > do you ever sleep? > > -- Santa Claus, where do we send the milk and cookies? It might help :) Switching over to sid sources now for testing, will try a fresh install from scratch again tommorow.. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: noatun package problem
I am JUST using sid (unstable), and Ralf's kde sources Suggest that if we can use Ralf's sources against unstable, that it checks for the correct libvorbis package. On Saturday 04 January 2003 23:12, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > noatun > > noatun: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot > > open shared object file: No such file or directory > > You seem to have libvorbis0 package from sid. It is not compatable with one > from woody. All packages compiled against woody's version fail when > libworbis0 is upgraded to sid. Bad problem, reported long lime ago, but > still there. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." ---- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
noatun package problem
noatun noatun: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Didn't get a chance to see where the problem lies.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.netscape/plugins$ apt-cache showpkg noatun Package: noatun Versions: 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231-0woody1(/var/lib/apt/lists/ktown.kde.org_%7enolden_kde_woody_i386_._Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status) 4:2.2.2-8(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) Reverse Depends: noatun-plugins,noatun 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231 noatun-osd,noatun 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231 kdemultimedia-dev,noatun 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231-0woody1 kdemultimedia,noatun 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231-0woody1 noatun-plugins,noatun 4:2.2.2-1 kdemultimedia-dev,noatun 4:2.2.2-8 kde,noatun Dependencies: 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231-0woody1 - artsbuilder (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231) kdelibs4 (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20021230) libart-2.0-2 (0 (null)) libarts1 (2 1.0.9+cvs20021230) libasound2 (2 0.9.0beta10a-1) libaudiofile0 (2 0.2.3-4) libc6 (2 2.2.4-4) libfam0 (0 (null)) libmad0 (2 0.14.2b) libogg0 (2 1.0rc3-1) libpng3 (0 (null)) libqt3-mt (2 2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220) libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (2 1:2.95.4-0.010810) libvorbis0 (2 1.0rc3-1) xlibs (4 4.1.0) zlib1g (2 1:1.1.4) noatun-plugins (0 (null)) 4:2.2.2-8 - artsbuilder (2 4:2.2.2-8) kdelibs3 (2 4:2.2.2-1) libarts (18 4:2.2.2-1) libarts-alsa (2 4:2.2.2-1) libaudiofile0 (2 0.2.3-4) libc6 (2 2.2.4-4) libesd0 (18 0.2.23-1) libesd-alsa0 (2 0.2.23-1) libfam0 (0 (null)) libjpeg62 (0 (null)) libkmid (18 4:2.2.2-1) libkmid-alsa (2 4:2.2.2-1) libpng2 (2 1.0.12) libqt2 (2 3:2.3.1-1) libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (2 1:2.95.4-0.010810) nas-lib (0 (null)) xlibs (4 4.1.0) zlib1g (2 1:1.1.3) libarts-mpeglib (5 4:2.2.2-8) mpeglib (5 4:2.2.2-8) noatun-plugins (0 (null)) kdebase-libs (0 (null)) Provides: 4:3.0.99+cvs20021231-0woody1 - 4:2.2.2-8 - mp3-decoder Reverse Provides: -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Test request (was: Re: Small strange problem)
`apt-get update` `apt-get upgrade` And... SOLVED! Total time from reporting the bug, to having it fixed was less than 3 hours.. Smokin... On Saturday 04 January 2003 11:37, you wrote: > Michael's problem report is quite true :-) and the reason for that is the > (sometimes quite confusing) packaging of libraries in kdelibs. Now, let me > explain the background: > However, I would like all of you who tested to please update and test again > if this problem occurs to any other program that is using kparts, like > kfind or whatever. If so, then I'll correct those problems incrementally. > The new kdelibs version is uploaded and has the version info > 3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody2. Please make sure that you have those versions > installed; with no -dev package. If the -dev package is there, you won't > notice any problem so this won't help finding out if there's still > something int he -dev package that belongs to kdelibs4 :-) > > Thank you for listening and your support for testing :-) > -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Small strange problem
Just ran a clean install of Debian on a machine, and used initially the ccheney kdebase/kdelibs, then added in Ralf's sources, and finished installing with `apt-get update;apt-get install kmail` Everything was working great, then decided to `apt-get update;apt-get install kcpuload` which also updated ... The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 The following NEW packages will be installed: kcpuload 3 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 30 not upgraded. Need to get 11.4MB of archives. After unpacking 340kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Now I find Konqueror doens't run properly, with a strange message that the library files for libkhtml.la are not in the path.. Looking into it.. Did an update to kdebase as well, still same problems.. mistress:/home/michael# apt-cache showpkg kdelibs Package: kdelibs Versions: 4:3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody1(/var/lib/apt/lists/ktown.kde.org_%7enolden_kde_woody_i386_._Packages) 4:3.0.99+cvs20021220-1(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eccheney_kde-3.0.99+cvs20021220_._Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status) Reverse Depends: Dependencies: 4:3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody1 - kdelibs4 (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody1) kdelibs-bin (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody1) kdelibs-data (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody1) 4:3.0.99+cvs20021220-1 - kdelibs4 (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20021220-1) kdelibs-bin (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20021220-1) kdelibs-data (2 4:3.0.99+cvs20021220-1) Provides: 4:3.0.99+cvs20030104-0woody1 - 4:3.0.99+cvs20021220-1 - Reverse Provides: Removed cheney from sources, and did an apt-get update again, and kdelibs was ready for another update.. Still have the same problem. Complete apt-get upgrade, and still have same issue -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: apt-get update
Glad for it, the new Kmail responds soo... much better This is now looking good enough for inclusion with our distros.. Your work has been invaluable.. On Saturday 04 January 2003 04:57, Ralf Nolden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > apt-get upgrade > > should give you knetload and kcpuload. They're both from CVS, build as > separete packages and have version 1.99 like their according changelog > says. > > I also updated kdelibs, kdebase, kdeartwork, kdepim and kdenetwork which > reflect the latest changes so you're basically running KDE-3.1 RC6. Please > report all problems ASAP because otherwise the filal will contain those > bugs. Especially if it's showstoppers. > > Ralf -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Latest Quanta?? vs kate-kdelibs-plugin (KDE 3.1rc)
Wondering which package has got it wrong? workplace:/home/wizard# apt-get install quanta Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: quanta 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 140 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/3995kB of archives. After unpacking 15.5MB will be used. (Reading database ... 36973 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking quanta (from .../quanta_1%3a3.0.0-cvs20021020-1.1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/quanta_1%3a3.0.0-cvs20021020-1.1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/katepart/syntax/coldfusion.xml', which is also in package kate-kdelibs-plugin dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/quanta_1%3a3.0.0-cvs20021020-1.1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) workplace:/home/wizard# apt-get -s remove kate-kdelibs-plugin Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: kate kate-kdelibs-plugin kdebase kdelibs4 kdevelop kdevelop-data konqueror 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 140 not upgraded. Remv kdebase (4:3.0.98-1 kde31:kde31rc2/unstable) Remv konqueror (4:3.0.98-1 kde31:kde31rc2/unstable) Remv kate (4:3.0.98-1 kde31:kde31rc2/unstable) Remv kdevelop (4:2.1.1-2 ) [kdevelop-data ] Remv kdevelop-data (4:2.1.1-2 ) Remv kdelibs4 (4:3.0.98-2 kde31:kde31rc2/unstable) Remv kate-kdelibs-plugin (4:3.0.98-2 kde31:kde31rc2/unstable) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Okay, new rc2 kdebase upgraded, but now more problems..
apt-get install kmail Had to perform the following to get past it.. dpkg -r --force-depends kioslave apt-get -f install dpkg -r --force-depends konsole apt-get -f install dpkg -r --force-depends kwin apt-get -f install apt-get install kmail Unpacking replacement kdebase-data ... Preparing to replace libkonq4 4:3.0.8-1 (using .../libkonq4_4%3a3.0.98-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libkonq4 ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkonq4_4%3a3.0.98-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kded_mountwatcher.la', which is also in package kioslave dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Selecting previously deselected package libkonq-data. dpkg: considering removing libkonq4 in favour of libkonq-data ... dpkg: no, cannot remove libkonq4 (--auto-deconfigure will help): kfind depends on libkonq4 (>= 4:3.0.8) libkonq4 is to be removed. dpkg: regarding .../libkonq-data_4%3a3.0.98-1_i386.deb containing libkonq-data: libkonq-data conflicts with libkonq4 (<< 4:3.0.8.cvs20020930-3) libkonq4 (version 4:3.0.8-1) is installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkonq-data_4%3a3.0.98-1_i386.deb (--unpack): conflicting packages - not installing libkonq-data Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libkonq4_4%3a3.0.98-1_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libkonq-data_4%3a3.0.98-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: Upgrading a debian-kde 3.0.8 system to rc2
Yes, that worked smartly.. thanks.. On November 9, 2002 09:35 am, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > lördagen den 9 november 2002 04.24 skrev Michael Peddemors: > > Just thought I would drop a note on this, before fuddling around.. > > I took away some checks for my early KDE 3.1 beta package in KDE 3.1 rc2, > which appears like a bad move, so I have put it back again (not on ftp > yet). > > Sometimes I have big problems making apt-get understand that an upgrade > actually is possible. It is not always very smart and helpful about what is > actually wrong. > > In those cases, removing the a package like here with 'dpkg -r > --force-depends kdelibs-bin' and then doing an "apt-get -f install" > suddenly makes apt-get able to install without conflicts. > > -- Karolina -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Upgrading a debian-kde 3.0.8 system to rc2
Just thought I would drop a note on this, before fuddling around.. Selecting previously deselected package kdelibs-dcop. Unpacking kdelibs-dcop (from .../kdelibs-dcop_4%3a3.0.98-2_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-dcop_4%3a3.0.98-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/dcop', which is also in package kdelibs-bin dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Preparing to replace kdelibs4 4:3.0.8-1 (using .../kdelibs4_4%3a3.0.98-2_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kdelibs4 ... Selecting previously deselected package libkdefx4. Unpacking libkdefx4 (from .../libkdefx4_4%3a3.0.98-2_i386.deb) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-dcop_4%3a3.0.98-2_i386.deb -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Release date for KDE package??
Chris looks a tad busy, anyone have anyfurther info on releasing a 3.1RC package? Anyone have a development package source to use/tryout? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." -------- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
