Bug#585097: change update-notifier-kde from depends to recommends
Hi, I very strongly support Alan's proposal. Since update-notifier-kde logically depends on update-notifier-common, this implies that installing kde-standard to get a coherent standard desktop environment will 1) trigger periodic edits of /etc/motd (through /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available) 2) consequently sporadically slow down every first-login-of-the-day to the host 3) display a notification popup on the first-logged user's desktop about available updates, whether notifying this user is relevant or not. Such a behaviour might be sensible (albeit this is disputable) on a machine always used by a single user but it is quite unbearable on a real multi-user host where ordinary users do not have administrative privileges. Thanks in advance, pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c15db42.1020...@toulouse.archi.fr
Re: Amarok's Issues
Hi, Edson Marquezani Filho a écrit : I'm using SQLite as database backend You said you were using squeeze, didn't you ? May I ask you how you tweaked amarok to use sqlite instead of mysqle ? Thanks in advance, phep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bc49623.40...@toulouse.archi.fr
Re: PolicyKit Authorization (System Settings) crashes every time
Hi, Peter Dahlberg a écrit : I would use checkinstall (checkinstall make install). It creates a .deb and installs it. Later you can remove it cleanly with dpkg. Please don't give such pieces of advice without a little bit more explanations. Checkinstall is not a debian developper. It does not know much about the debian policies and even less about possible filepath/packages/... possible conflicts/dependencies. It is basically nothing more than a wrapper around make install so that you can make [un]install by just calling dpkg instead of calling make by hand. I remember having helped a guy on the kdepim-users list for half a day one or two years ago. The guy had completely borked his system by repeatedly using checkinstall. Frankly, except in giving its users a false sense of security, I don't thinck checkinstall has any utility. A manual install in /usr/local or whichever safe place you want is a far better solution. HTH pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b96357d.80...@toulouse.archi.fr
Dependencies problem with kdepim 4.3.2 in squeeze
Hi, Today kdepim 4.3.2 seems to have migrated to testing but the systems cannot be realistically since there are some unmet dependencies for some apps. See for example http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/kaddressbook , libgnokii5 seems to be stalled in sid for some time. I apologize for not having investigated further since I'm not a pts expert. HTH pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Amarok 2.2.0 plays mp3s in an instant
Modestas Vainius a écrit : Sure, but libxine1-ffmpeg is supported to get installed by default: $ aptitude why amarok libxine1-ffmpeg i amarok Depends phonon-backend-xine | phonon-backend i phonon-backend-xine Depends libxine1 (= 1.1.8) i A libxine1Depends libxine1-plugins (= 1.1.16.3-1) | libxine1- misc-plugins (= 1.1.16.3-1+b3) i A libxine1-pluginsDepends libxine1-ffmpeg (= 1.1.16.3-1) Well, it seems it's not exactly the case depending the way/order some packages were installed on the machine : ataz [1006] ~ aptitude show libxine1 Paquet : libxine1 ... Dépend: libxine1-plugins (= 1.1.16.3-1) | libxine1-misc-plugins (= 1.1.16.3-1+b2), libxine1-x (= 1.1.16.3-1+b2), libxine1-console (= 1.1.16.3-1+b2) Recommande: libxine1-ffmpeg ataz [1008] ~ aptitude show libxine1-misc-plugins Paquet : libxine1-misc-plugins ... Dépend: libasound2 ( 1.0.18), libbz2-1.0, libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~), libflac8, libfontconfig1 (= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (= 2.2.1), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libgomp1 (= 4.2.1), libice6 (= 1:1.0.0), libjack0 (= 0.116.1), libjpeg62, liblcms1 (= 1.15-1), liblqr-1-0 (= 0.1.0), libltdl7 (= 2.2.6a), libmagickcore2, libmagickwand2, libmng1 (= 1.0.3-1), libmodplug0c2 (= 1:0.7-4.1), libmpcdec3, libogg0 (= 1.0rc3), libpulse0 (= 0.9.14), libsm6, libsmbclient (= 3.0.24), libspeex1 (= 1.2~beta3-1), libtheora0 (= 0.0.0.alpha7.dfsg), libtiff4, libvorbis0a (= 1.1.2), libwavpack1 (= 4.40.0), libx11-6, libxext6, libxine1-bin (= 1.1.16.3-1+b2), libxt6, zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4) So, if I'm right, having apt configured not to install 'recommends' and having libxine1-misc-plugins installed for some reason you may not have libxine1-plugins and then libxine1-ffmpeg installed. HTH pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to log out
Diederik de Haas a écrit : In the Kickoff - Leave menu there is an option to log out, but it always shuts down my computer, just like Shutdown does. How can I configure it to actually log out? Or is Ctl + Alt + Backspace the way to do that? I think I had this problem as I first run kde4 after it hit testing. Have a look at the session manager settings, turn them right or try to toggle some properties and sort of re-apply if it happens they look good. HTH pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Translations lost on upgrade to KDE4
Ana Guerrero a écrit : On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 09:08:30PM +0200, Patrice Pillot wrote: If there is no objection from the maintainers on this list I will file a bug tomorrow against kde-standard - I can't think about a more appropriate package since kde-l10n-** packages don't have rdepends at all and I don't feel like filing against each and every of those ;-) File a bug about what? You have to choose here kde3's translations or kde4's, kde3 and kde4 have been never been co-installable. Ana, As you can see on this page http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kspread , there are kde3 apps that are still available not only in squeeze but in sid, too. I wouldn't mind installing their KDE4 counterpart mind you, they're just not available. So, I consider it a bug that those applications are distributed with no l10n due to a packaging problem (as explained in details in my preceding messages). That doesn't mean I don't understand that the Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers are reluctant to fix such a packaging problem since eventually all of those kde3 apps shall be ported or taken out of debian. I have taken notes on the lack of manpower of the team and I do understand that this problem is regarded as (very) low-priority (as long as stable is not concerned and it is only a testing/unstable problem, at least). This is precisely why I asked for maintainers' advice here. I don't want to file an unecessary (for me) and cumbersome (for them) bug report (i.e. a bug that probably only time will fix). I've read Modestas message now and I think he's just saying that: too early to decide how to solve the problem. That's OK for me, really. After observing the debates on the list and elsewhere, I'm now convinced that the sooner we'll have only kde4 apps in the archive the better, so that everyone will be in position to fill just 'useful' bugs. RIP KDE3. Hope this clarify my question. pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Translations lost on upgrade to KDE4
Hi, Since I upgraded my squeeze laptop to KDE4 last week, the remaining KDE3 applications (e.g. kspread, ...) lost all of the translated strings that they took off from /usr/share/locale/XX/LC_MESSAGES/kdelibs.mo and similar generic kde3 .mo files (kio.mo, ...) since those file has been replaced by kde4 avatars of them. This concerns default menu titles for very common menus (File, ...) I can see two workarounds but I ain't got time to try them at the moment to evaluate the less worse: - do some symlinks in locale files, - fetch old kde-i18n-XX from lenny boxes and reinstall them in my squeeze laptop. If maintainers think that would deserve a bug report I'll fill it tonight. TIA for any piece of advice, pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Translations lost on upgrade to KDE4
Ana Guerrero a écrit : install kde-l10n-fr Sorry, I forgot to mention kde-l10n-fr _is_ installed, for sure: 8--- pil...@ataz [257] ~ aptitude -syv install kde-l10n-fr [ ... ] kde-l10n-fr est déjà installé avec la version demandée (4:4.2.2-1) kde-l10n-fr est déjà installé avec la version demandée (4:4.2.2-1) Aucun paquet ne va être installé, mis à jour ou enlevé. 0 paquets mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour. Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 0o seront utilisés. 8--- And KDE4 l10n is as ok as it can be. The problem only shows up for kde3 apps. Thanks anyway, pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SQUEEZE - KDE4 - kdm doesn't start session, gdm does
tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : With kdm I can see the login screen, input my user-name and password, but then I come back to the login screen after a few seconds of black screen... [...] I am not at all familiar with the consolekit and policykit thing, but this definitely seems to be at the root of the problem. This reminds me of this old bug : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457487 Maybe you could find some ideas there. HTH pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Qt 4.5 in testing
Ana Guerrero a écrit : On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:47:07AM +0200, Patrice Pillot wrote: Hi, I've seen Qt 4.5 has reached testing now but I did not dare to upgrade those packages, yet. Is it safe to use it along with KDE 3.5 ? Yes, KDE 3.5 uses Qt3, only your apps using Qt4 could get affected, but they should not have to. Doh, there are mornings I really shouldn't turn this box on before having swallowed some cafeinated drink... Don't tell my boss I wrote that, please... :-( Sorry for this stupidity. pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
About knetload and kcpuload
Hi, Those two apps were recently removed from testing since they were not present anymore in sid. I suppose this may be related to the fact that they don't seem to be maintain well upstream and moreover, since KDE4 is on its way to squeeze... Yet those applets are very useful. Are there any KDE4 successors for them ? TIA, phep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny: Mouse freezes after kde ends a session and kdm reappears on Intel G35 chipset
Rainer Dorsch a écrit : I would like to verify if that problem also occurs on a fresh lenny install (without reinstalling the system). How would I completely regenerate an xorg.conf? Just try to do _without_ an xorg.conf. As far as your USB mouse is concerned, lenny's xorg can do pretty well without a conf file. HTH pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE HAL mounting in etch: lets solve it
Hi, Dawn Light wrote: The ext3 partitions are succesfully mounted with no problems using kde, but the user doesn't get write permissions to them. That is quite natural (and most satisfactory, in any events) that users who don't have sufficient permissions can't read some files on any ext3 partition, be it permanently or temporarily mounted. Could you elaborate a little bit on what you expect from the system about your user getting write permissions ? Regards, pp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
About kde3 in lenny
Hi, If I caught it correctly, it seems that freeze time is drawing near for lenny. May I signal that bug #457487 would make kdm not usable for a maybe not so small quantity of users (e.g. schools, ...). Are there any chance that the proposed patch will be integrated in time for lenny ? tia, phep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About kde3 in lenny
Modestas Vainius wrote: 2008 m. March 4 d., Tuesday, Patrice Pillot rašė: If I caught it correctly, it seems that freeze time is drawing near for lenny. May I signal that bug #457487 would make kdm not usable for a maybe not so small quantity of users (e.g. schools, ...). Are there any chance that the proposed patch will be integrated in time for lenny ? Scheduled for 3.5.9-2 OK, thank you for your responsiveness (but as I'm not used with the testing transition process / release process I'm still not quite sure the patch will be integrated in time to get into lenny in time). Thanks anyway, phep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#457487: kdm: Remote XDMCP login broken (segfault)
I can confirm both the bug and the patch submitted by Paul. I rebuilt kdebase with Paul's patch and installed the kdm package and now it works and I can come back to kdm. Thanks, Paul ! phep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: XDMCP login
Really no one else with same problems out there? Yes, I ! (I did send you a private message some days ago but it must have ended in your spam box) Everything works like you described, the only difference is I'm running testing (but the bug appeared with 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 too). I even reproduced it on different machines (all running testing). Didn't find any other workaround than to install gdm :-( I'm really short on time currently so I could not investigate much, but it seems this could be connected with http://bugs.kde.org/147790 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243560 (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=450603 and the kdebase changelog) Installing consolekit did not change anything here. Seems like we should file a bug, shouldn't we ? Yours, phep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
