Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-06-24 Thread Andre Schaefer
Henrik Skantz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 After installing gnome 2.2
 (http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/)
 Kde 3 apps doesnt look nice at all, they start but windows are 
 very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons etc).
 Starting kde gives me a desktop with _ instead of
 text for the icons. 
Hello,
yesterday we suffered from the same problem after installing gnome2.2 on 
a previously KDE 3.1 (woody) system. Funnily we have two system which 
have installed both gnome and kde without having problems. Is there any 
evidence to which environmental properties the problem may be related? 
Sepecial font settings or what? The disabling of the .qt dirs has helped 
for the users, but what about kdm?

Any hint appreciated.
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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-14 Thread Henrik Skantz
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:22:27AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:32:51PM +0200, Henrik Skantz wrote:
   After installing gnome 2.2
   (http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/)
   Kde 3 apps doesnt look nice at all, they start but windows are 
   very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons etc).
   Starting kde gives me a desktop with _ instead of
   text for the icons. 
   
   I'm using sarge, gnome is my standard world but it would be nice to use
   some kde apps like Kile. I have tried to compile my own kde apps but
   it is the same.
   
   The kde packages are from http://download.kde.org/stable/latest/Debian
   I have tried Karolinas, debian official, same problem.
 
 GNOME's probably screwed around with Xft and fontconfig. Are you using
 KDE 2.2 or 3.1?
 
Kde 3.1
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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-14 Thread Henrik Skantz
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:46:09PM -0500, Grant Bierman wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 16:32, Henrik Skantz wrote:
 
   very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons etc).
   Starting kde gives me a desktop with _ instead of
   text for the icons. 
  
 I do had this to happen, thou I didn't think it had to do with gnome2.
 What I did to fix this was to empty ~/.qt and make it read only,
 afterwords text became readable except for kdm. But since it's just me 
 on this system I set the default user to me. On my parents box, I
 switched them to gdm.
   
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Nice, thanks Kde and its apps work again.


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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-14 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:55AM +0200, Henrik Skantz wrote:
 On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:46:09PM -0500, Grant Bierman wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 16:32, Henrik Skantz wrote:
very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons etc).
Starting kde gives me a desktop with _ instead of
text for the icons. 
   
  I do had this to happen, thou I didn't think it had to do with gnome2.
  What I did to fix this was to empty ~/.qt and make it read only,
  afterwords text became readable except for kdm. But since it's just me 
  on this system I set the default user to me. On my parents box, I
  switched them to gdm.
 
 Nice, thanks Kde and its apps work again.

When you set up GNOME's fonts, it screws with Qt's settings, and gets it
badly wrong, apparently.

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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2003 10:45, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:55AM +0200, Henrik Skantz wrote:
  On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:46:09PM -0500, Grant Bierman wrote:
   On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 16:32, Henrik Skantz wrote:
 very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons
etc). Starting kde gives me a desktop with _
instead of text for the icons.
  
   I do had this to happen, thou I didn't think it had to do with gnome2.
   What I did to fix this was to empty ~/.qt and make it read only,
   afterwords text became readable except for kdm. But since it's just me
   on this system I set the default user to me. On my parents box, I
   switched them to gdm.
 
  Nice, thanks Kde and its apps work again.

 When you set up GNOME's fonts, it screws with Qt's settings, and gets it
 badly wrong, apparently.

I guess that's a nice new feature, eh ? :-)

Ralf
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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-14 Thread Henrik Skantz
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:12:31AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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 On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2003 10:45, Daniel Stone wrote:
  On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:55AM +0200, Henrik Skantz wrote:
   On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:46:09PM -0500, Grant Bierman wrote:
On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 16:32, Henrik Skantz wrote:
  very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons
 etc). Starting kde gives me a desktop with _
 instead of text for the icons.
   
I do had this to happen, thou I didn't think it had to do with gnome2.
What I did to fix this was to empty ~/.qt and make it read only,
afterwords text became readable except for kdm. But since it's just me
on this system I set the default user to me. On my parents box, I
switched them to gdm.
  
   Nice, thanks Kde and its apps work again.
 
  When you set up GNOME's fonts, it screws with Qt's settings, and gets it
  badly wrong, apparently.
 
 I guess that's a nice new feature, eh ? :-)
 
 Ralf
 -- 
 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs.
 
 Ralf Nolden
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The K Desktop Environment   The KDevelop Project
 http://www.kde.org  http://www.kdevelop.org

Is  ./qt something new ?

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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-14 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2003 11:52, Henrik Skantz wrote:
 On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:12:31AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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  On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2003 10:45, Daniel Stone wrote:
   On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:55AM +0200, Henrik Skantz wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:46:09PM -0500, Grant Bierman wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 16:32, Henrik Skantz wrote:
   very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside
  icons etc). Starting kde gives me a desktop with
  _ instead of text for the icons.

 I do had this to happen, thou I didn't think it had to do with
 gnome2. What I did to fix this was to empty ~/.qt and make it read
 only, afterwords text became readable except for kdm. But since
 it's just me on this system I set the default user to me. On my
 parents box, I switched them to gdm.
   
Nice, thanks Kde and its apps work again.
  
   When you set up GNOME's fonts, it screws with Qt's settings, and gets
   it badly wrong, apparently.
 
  I guess that's a nice new feature, eh ? :-)
 
  Ralf
  --
  We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs.
  
  Ralf Nolden
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  The K Desktop Environment   The KDevelop Project
  http://www.kde.org  http://www.kdevelop.org

 Is  ./qt something new ?

I don't know *when* it got actually added or *how* it gets created, however 
I've seen this behavior on other places too. I guess I have to hunt that down 
with madkiss to make global-running qt-based apps (which is essentially KDM) 
use /etc/X11/qt or something.



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Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-13 Thread Henrik Skantz
 Hi,
 
 After installing gnome 2.2
 (http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/)
 Kde 3 apps doesnt look nice at all, they start but windows are 
 very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons etc).
 Starting kde gives me a desktop with _ instead of
 text for the icons. 
 
 I'm using sarge, gnome is my standard world but it would be nice to use
 some kde apps like Kile. I have tried to compile my own kde apps but
 it is the same.
 
 The kde packages are from http://download.kde.org/stable/latest/Debian
 I have tried Karolinas, debian official, same problem.


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Re: Gnome2.2 backport for Debian Woody

2003-05-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:32:51PM +0200, Henrik Skantz wrote:
  After installing gnome 2.2
  (http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/)
  Kde 3 apps doesnt look nice at all, they start but windows are 
  very big (extreme!) and no fonts are showing (no text beside icons etc).
  Starting kde gives me a desktop with _ instead of
  text for the icons. 
  
  I'm using sarge, gnome is my standard world but it would be nice to use
  some kde apps like Kile. I have tried to compile my own kde apps but
  it is the same.
  
  The kde packages are from http://download.kde.org/stable/latest/Debian
  I have tried Karolinas, debian official, same problem.

GNOME's probably screwed around with Xft and fontconfig. Are you using
KDE 2.2 or 3.1?

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KDE: Konquering a desktop near you - http://www.kde.org


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