Re: problem initializing system services with kde 3.1
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Re: KDE 3.1 & Woody (revised)
Thank's I'll move there Endianto- Original Message - From: Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists To: Endianto Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 8:58 PM Subject: Re: KDE 3.1 & Woody (revised) On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Endianto wrote:> I already have internal modem [...]> I don't know what I have to do with this driver [...]Maybe someone will be able to help you here, but debian-kde is not theoptimal place to ask this question. debian-users or similar might be.*t- Tomas Pospisek http://sourcepole.com - Linux & Open Source Solutions- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.1 & Woody (revised)
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Endianto wrote: > I already have internal modem [...] > I don't know what I have to do with this driver [...] Maybe someone will be able to help you here, but debian-kde is not the optimal place to ask this question. debian-users or similar might be. *t -- --- Tomas Pospisek http://sourcepole.com - Linux & Open Source Solutions ---
KDE 3.1 & Woody (revised)
Hi List Members, -Sorry for the previous incomplete message- After reinstall Debian many times, finally KDE 3.1 running smoothly on top of Debian Woody -2.4.18-bf2.4- on my Pentium III system. My next target is connecting it to the net. I already have internal modem Prolink V92 which is detected by system -lspci- as "00:0b.0 Communication Controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01)" Also I already have driver downloaded from Conexant web site. ppp is setted up. I don't know what I have to do with this driver : should I have to compile it first?; where should I put it in? Any clue would appreciated, thank's Endianto, newbie
KDE 3.1 & Woody
Hi List Members, After reinstall Debian many times, finally KDE 3.1 running smoothly on top of Debian Woody -2.4.18-bf2.4- on my Pentium III system. My next target is connecting it to the net. I already have internal modem Prolink V92 which is detected by system -lspci- as "00:0b.0 Communication Controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01)" Also I already have driver downloaded from Conexant web site. Endianto, newbie
Re: Report: KDE 3.1.x/Woody Screensaver Situation
On Tuesday 02 March 2004 03:29, Nick Boyce wrote: > Re: my previous reports to this list (Jan.2003 & Feb.2004) about how on > my Woody system with KDE 3.1.x, (a) the OpenGL screensavers were very > slow (unaccelerated), and (b) most of the ~160 screensavers listed in > Kcontrol don't work at all : > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200301/msg00718.html > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/debian-kde-200402/msg00177.html > > I've been experimenting, and have made two improvements in the situation > : > > 1) I now have beautiful glorious fully accelerated GL screensavers (the > KDE ones anyway); I fixed the problem by installing a package I hadn't > previously realised I needed : libglide3, "Graphics library for 3Dfx > Voodoo based cards"; I suppose users of other brand graphics cards > don't need any such "helper" library (or do they ?). > > 2) I managed to remove the entries for approx 145 screensavers which > don't work from the list offered by the screensaver applet of Kcontrol > (leaving 29 working native KDE screensavers). The screensavers listed > by Kcontrol are those for which a ".desktop" file exists in > /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers, so I just moved the "broken" > ones out of the way. Looks like kscreensaver should require xscreenssaver* not only recommend them. Or split the package should be split into two pkgs native/external screen savers. > > I tried to find out why exactly the broken screensavers are broken, and > noted that the first few lines of a working screensaver .desktop file > are like this : > > /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ more KPyro.desktop > [Desktop Entry] > Encoding=UTF-8 > Exec=kpyro.kss > Icon=kscreensaver > Type=Application > Actions=Setup;InWindow;Root > Name=Pyro > > and the "Exec" line names an executable file to be run : > > /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ which kpyro.kss > /usr/bin/kpyro.kss I've tried to run krandom.kss and it refused to run. I've started kswarm as root -> okay; ^C -> keyboard dead :( Looks like the *.kss are not meant to be run standalone. AFAIF FHS requires/suggests to put the into /usr/lib/kscreensaver/ http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLIBRARIESFORPROGRAMMINGANDPA > > but for a "broken" screensaver (e.g. "Zoom"), the named executable : > > /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ more duff/zoom.desktop > [Desktop Entry] > Encoding=UTF-8 > Exec=zoom > Icon=kscreensaver > Type=Application > Actions=InWindow;Root;Setup > Name=Zoom > > doesn't exist in any directory on the path on my system : > > /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ which zoom > /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ > > I did a search of the system, and discovered that the zoom screensaver > module *is* on my system, in a place which isn't on the path, so it > doesn't work : > > /usr/lib/xscreensaver/zoom Ah, according to FHS ;) > > Thus enlightened, I tried editing the zoom.desktop file to add the full > path for the screensaver module to each "Exec" line (there are 4 such > lines). This fixed the basic brokenness of the Zoom saver, such that > it will now actually work if selected in Kcontrol - *but* didn't fix > the Kcontrol screensaver preview pane (which stays dark), or the "Test" > button (which does nothing at all)... and the "Setup" button just says Did the preview and/or and test button ever work with xscreensavers? If this is/was ever supported I assume that two of the exec lines should have special options for xscreensaver to tell it run embeded in a widget in kcontrol or in test more. Maybe some options have changed? > "No configuration available for Zoom". This situation seems to be the > same for each of the xscreensaver modules - all the .desktop files are > broken in the same way, and all can be "fixed" by adding the full path > to the executable module. > > So where does "zoom.desktop" come from ? > > glimmer:~# dpkg -S zoom.desktop > kscreensaver: /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers/zoom.desktop > > glimmer:~# apt-cache policy kscreensaver > kscreensaver: > Installed: 4:3.1.4-0woody1 > Candidate: 4:3.1.4-0woody1 > Version Table: > *** 4:3.1.4-0woody1 0 > 500 http://download.kde.org stable/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > Okay it's a fault in the kscreensaver package at download.kde.org. > Should I bug this ? Ralf ? > > End of report. > > Questions: > (1) Should I fix all 145
Re: Report: KDE 3.1.x/Woody Screensaver Situation
On Tuesday 02 March 2004 03:29, Nick Boyce wrote: > I've been experimenting, and have made two improvements in the situation > > (3) How come some people find all 160 screensavers work from Kcontrol > without the problem I found ? (I'm thinking perhaps there are > different .desktop files in other packagers' KDE debs ...) > I have been having screensaver problems with Woody as well. Only the KDE-screensavers were working. In the end I deleted all links to other screensavers. Recently I upgraded to KDE 3.2 (stable backport) and Help! some screensavers that did work with 3.1.4 stopped working. I have good news though. The past couple of days I have been testing the new Debian Installer and installed Sarge with KDE 3.1.5 on a spare harddisk. All screensavers work fine now! I am not sure if my 3.2 problems for Woody are early packaging problems or maybe there is something wrong with my config files, but I've decided to wait for Sarge to become stable before I do any more investigating. Cheers, FJP
Report: KDE 3.1.x/Woody Screensaver Situation
Re: my previous reports to this list (Jan.2003 & Feb.2004) about how on my Woody system with KDE 3.1.x, (a) the OpenGL screensavers were very slow (unaccelerated), and (b) most of the ~160 screensavers listed in Kcontrol don't work at all : http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200301/msg00718.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/debian-kde-200402/msg00177.html I've been experimenting, and have made two improvements in the situation : 1) I now have beautiful glorious fully accelerated GL screensavers (the KDE ones anyway); I fixed the problem by installing a package I hadn't previously realised I needed : libglide3, "Graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards"; I suppose users of other brand graphics cards don't need any such "helper" library (or do they ?). 2) I managed to remove the entries for approx 145 screensavers which don't work from the list offered by the screensaver applet of Kcontrol (leaving 29 working native KDE screensavers). The screensavers listed by Kcontrol are those for which a ".desktop" file exists in /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers, so I just moved the "broken" ones out of the way. I tried to find out why exactly the broken screensavers are broken, and noted that the first few lines of a working screensaver .desktop file are like this : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ more KPyro.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Exec=kpyro.kss Icon=kscreensaver Type=Application Actions=Setup;InWindow;Root Name=Pyro and the "Exec" line names an executable file to be run : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ which kpyro.kss /usr/bin/kpyro.kss but for a "broken" screensaver (e.g. "Zoom"), the named executable : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ more duff/zoom.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Exec=zoom Icon=kscreensaver Type=Application Actions=InWindow;Root;Setup Name=Zoom doesn't exist in any directory on the path on my system : /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ which zoom /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers$ I did a search of the system, and discovered that the zoom screensaver module *is* on my system, in a place which isn't on the path, so it doesn't work : /usr/lib/xscreensaver/zoom Thus enlightened, I tried editing the zoom.desktop file to add the full path for the screensaver module to each "Exec" line (there are 4 such lines). This fixed the basic brokenness of the Zoom saver, such that it will now actually work if selected in Kcontrol - *but* didn't fix the Kcontrol screensaver preview pane (which stays dark), or the "Test" button (which does nothing at all)... and the "Setup" button just says "No configuration available for Zoom". This situation seems to be the same for each of the xscreensaver modules - all the .desktop files are broken in the same way, and all can be "fixed" by adding the full path to the executable module. So where does "zoom.desktop" come from ? glimmer:~# dpkg -S zoom.desktop kscreensaver: /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers/zoom.desktop glimmer:~# apt-cache policy kscreensaver kscreensaver: Installed: 4:3.1.4-0woody1 Candidate: 4:3.1.4-0woody1 Version Table: *** 4:3.1.4-0woody1 0 500 http://download.kde.org stable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Okay it's a fault in the kscreensaver package at download.kde.org. Should I bug this ? Ralf ? End of report. Questions: (1) Should I fix all 145 broken xscreensaver .desktop files - or just move the xscreensaver modules to a directory on the path ? That would allow them to be selected directly from Kcontrol. (2) After that, is there any further need for the "XScreenSaver.desktop" file ? Its only purpose seems to be to allow Kcontrol to run "xscreensaver -setup" to give the horrible Motif-y xscreensaver configuration dialog ... which I suppose *does* provide the ability to have a subset of the modules selected, but that in turn only works if we have the xscreensaver daemon running ... which is equally horrible (ok - I mean "un-KDE-ish"). (3) How come some people find all 160 screensavers work from Kcontrol without the problem I found ? (I'm thinking perhaps there are different .desktop files in other packagers' KDE debs ...) Cheers, Nick Boyce Bristol, UK
Re: problem initializing system services with kde 3.1
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:45:38PM +, Chris wrote: > Hi, I recently got a problem starting KDE. After I enter my username and > password it hangs on "Initializing system services", then after one > minute the screen becomes blank apart from the debian background > display. Then almost exactly 5 mins later (I timed it) the KDE desktop > appears as usual. At this point everthing seems to work fine. The most common reason I've heard about this problem is that the user doesn't have their networking setup right. Various causes from not having loopback enabled to having the wrong entries in /etc/hosts. That would be the first thing I would check out myself. Chris signature.asc Description: Digital signature
problem initializing system services with kde 3.1
Hi, I recently got a problem starting KDE. After I enter my username and password it hangs on "Initializing system services", then after one minute the screen becomes blank apart from the debian background display. Then almost exactly 5 mins later (I timed it) the KDE desktop appears as usual. At this point everthing seems to work fine. My ~user/.xsession-errors file says: startkde: Starting up... QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used kbuildsycoca running... mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (-3) I am using kdm, kde3.1, X packages installed from the testing dist and upgraded recently (though I had the prob before the upgrade too). I noticed that some people have had similar probs with kde2, but didn't manage to resolve them. Any ideas??
Re: KDE 3.1 broken in sarge?
Just found out that his is a know issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=217351 -Benoit-
KDE 3.1 broken in sarge?
Hi all During the last apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday my KDE 2.2.2 installation on sarge was replaced by several kde 3.1 files and libraries. kde was deleted and not replaced. So i tried to replace it myself. It looks like several dependencies are not met to install kde 3.1 So I tryed to go back to kde 2.2 But it looks like it is no longer on the mirrors. So it leaves a Debian 'testing' system without working KDE. Anybody knows what happened there and when this is expected to get fixed? -Benoit- If you are a dumb spam harvester, go and send your crap to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I wont hear from you anymore.
No system sound on KDE 3.1
Hello there. (and excuse my broken english) I have a peculiar problem. On my linux box, I have kde 3.1.4 from kde.org with a custom kernel 2.4.21 with alsa for a SB live. Sound work. I can use xmms, mplayer, and in the sound server panel, the test works very well. But I don't have any system sound. I had a look at the archives and found I can Install libarts1-audiofile. It's now done, but I still don't have system sound. The KDE_Startup.wav is perfectly played on "test the server" button but not If I do click the small play icon in system notification for kde startup. I tried to use an external app in config... in a console /usr/bin/wavp /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav works very well but using /usr/bin/wavp as an external programm doesn't produce any sound for system notification. I'm puzzled. Any idea? (TIA for posting both to me and the list since I'm not a list subscriber). -- Debian powered computer
KDE 3.1/3.2cvs apps with GNOME panel and Sawfish as WM
I use Sawfish as WM, gnome-panel, gnome-session and rox-filer (as desktop). From KDE I use KPilot, Kontact (before KOrganizer and KMail from 3.1.x), KNotes. My main problem with this apps is that they can dock into "systray" but only when it is "systray" in kicker and I will use kwin as WM (instead sawfish). Some time ago I used kicker + sawfish but even then those K-apps didn't dock correctly - only open small transparent windows with dockicon inside. I don't want to switch to kwin+kicker as I'm sawfish user from few years, gnome-panel for me is nicer then kicker (slicker crashed too much when last tested).. Do I have to live with those bugs (non-docking docks) or maybe I have something bad configured? -- APT: deb http://www.hrw.one.pl/apt/ sid/ A linux machine! because a 486 is a terrible thing to waste!
Re: libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 22:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: > When nolden debs where out there, I know that he used the version.. > Package: libcupsys2 > Versions: > 1.1.18-1woody2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) > > but libcupsys2-dev relies on > > libcupsys2-dev: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.14-4.4) but 1.1.18-1woody2 is to > be installed.. > > Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do we > need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? dpkg --purge --force-all libcupsys2 apt-get update apt-get -f install (will pull libcupsys2 1.1.14) and then you can use libcupsys2-dev from 1.1.14. Ralf > > -- > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > > Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant > LinuxAdministration - Internet Services > NetworkServices - Programming - Security > Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca > Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com > LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. > > (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org pgpZh0fXyOM9B.pgp Description: signature
Re: libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 15:43, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do > > we need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? > > KDE 3.* was and will never be in woody. It's in an unofficial > apt repository ;) It's save to downgrade to 1.1.14. (as long as > you don't use new cups 1.1.18 features) to downgrade to 1.1.14. > Did it some weeks ago without any problems. > > Achim > Okay, maybe not 'official' to debian, but to the world at large, when you see an apt source like... deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main That makes it look pretty well supported and 'stable' And face it, we all want the KDE 3.1.x series, thought I would post it here to see if we can get those dependencies worked out, and placed in the same source locations as the ../stable/3.1.2/Debian, while waiting for sarge. Still want a 'stable' system, but with a decent UI I bet if you took a survery here, not many are using 2.2 anymore.. And too many people are having to go to unstable, just to get the bugfixes in the user interface dealt with. -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
Re: howto upgrade to kde 3.1.x
On Tue, 20 May 2003 20:03:28 -0600, Gezim H wrote: >Original Message Follows >From: Ralf Nolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Gezim H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: howto upgrade to kde 3.1.1a >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 20:44:46 +0200 Along with about 20 lines of good advice from Ralf Nolden, you quoted about 170 more lines of message headers, other rubbish, and badly wrapped unnecessary content, such that it was hard to find and read the good bits. (I appreciate you were trying to relay 8 or so lines of Ralf's post on debian-user to *this* list.) This is not helpful to anyone - please trim postings to this list in a better manner in future. A good guide to list etiquette can be found at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thanks, Nick Boyce Bristol, UK
Re: libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 22:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: > When nolden debs where out there, I know that he used the version.. > Package: libcupsys2 > Versions: > 1.1.18-1woody2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) > > but libcupsys2-dev relies on I'm sure when 'nolden debs' where out there, there was also a libcupsys2-dev 1.1.8. > > libcupsys2-dev: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.14-4.4) but 1.1.18-1woody2 is to > be > installed.. > > Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do we > need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? KDE 3.* was and will never be in woody. It's in an unofficial apt repository ;) It's save to downgrade to 1.1.14. (as long as you don't use new cups 1.1.18 features) to downgrade to 1.1.14. Did it some weeks ago without any problems. Achim > > -- > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > > Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant > LinuxAdministration - Internet Services > NetworkServices - Programming - Security > Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca > Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com > LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. > > (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
Erm. Is KDE 3.1.x in woody? News to me! ;) David On Wednesday 21 May 2003 21:55, Michael Peddemors wrote: > When nolden debs where out there, I know that he used the version.. > Package: libcupsys2 > Versions: > 1.1.18-1woody2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) > > but libcupsys2-dev relies on > > libcupsys2-dev: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.14-4.4) but 1.1.18-1woody2 is to > be installed.. > > Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do we > need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? > > -- > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > > Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant > LinuxAdministration - Internet Services > NetworkServices - Programming - Security > Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca > Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com > LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. > > (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
libcupsys2, used in KDE 3.1.x series
When nolden debs where out there, I know that he used the version.. Package: libcupsys2 Versions: 1.1.18-1woody2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) but libcupsys2-dev relies on libcupsys2-dev: Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.14-4.4) but 1.1.18-1woody2 is to be installed.. Is it safe now that KDE 3.1.x is in woody to go back to 1.1.14-4.4 or do we need to get an updated libcupsys2-dev in woody? -- -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultant LinuxAdministration - Internet Services NetworkServices - Programming - Security Wizard IT Services http://www.wizard.ca Linux Support Specialist - http://www.linuxmagic.com LinuxMagic is a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. (604)589-0037 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada
howto upgrade to kde 3.1.x
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > > kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be > > installed > > Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed > > E: Sorry, broken packages > > > > then I try doing "apt-get install kdelibs3" which eareses all of my kde > > then I keep doing this loop. > > > > My question is: > > Is there a tutorial or a clean way to install kde 3.1.1a with everything > > in > > > it, thus avoiding all this trouble? > > apt-get remove --purge kdelibs3* > > will remove all KDE 2.2 applications. kdelibs3 -> kdelibs-2.2.2, kdelibs4 > -> kdelibs-3.1.2. > > If you want KDE 3.1, you need to remove all KDE 2 apps because KDE 2 and > KDE 3 > interfere with each other when both are installed in /usr (which is what is > used as the prefix for KDE on Debian). > > Ralf > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > Zim > > > > _ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > -- > We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. > > Ralf Nolden > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project > http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org > << attach3 >> > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org << attach3 >> _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid
On 02.Apr 2003 - 15:30:43, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Hi: > > Thanks Seven, Daniel and Ralph for their prompt advices. > > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 12:27, Sven Kissner wrote: > > Hi Aryan, > > > > just move ~/.kde out of the wa a ky (maybe to ~/.kde.old), it contains > > all of your settings. (you may check /etc/ fordm dir, also..). > > Aside from ~/.kde, I also have a /etc/kde3, shall I also backup this > directory? Will restoring these two directories, really restore all my > KDE settings? like konqueror's bookmarks and KMail's filters? I'm > afraid I am just a bit worried. if /etc/kde3 is installed from the kde packages: yes. The restoring should be done by hand and one setting after another, because sometimes the programs stop working if the settings-files are confusing for them. Konquerors bookmarks are in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml, how the file with kmails filters is called I don't know, but it is supposed to be in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail. So that will be restored when you restore ~/.kde . > What about my ~/.Mail directory. I guess this one is used by KMail, will > removing KMail also remove this directory? That directory does not depend on KDE, KMail places index-Files into that but any other MUA will use that directory too. Anyway even purging KDE does not remove anything in your $HOME, only system configurationfiles in /etc are deleted with a --purge, whereas without they would reside there. > What about fonts that I have installed via KDE Control Center's font > installer? Shall I also reinstall them after installing the new KDE? Sorry don't know about that, as I installed all fonts by hand/by defoma (I think - was long time ago). > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 13:04, Daniel Stone wrote: > > and then run apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase > > kdenetwork kdeutils [...] > > Where can I get the names of the these metapackages? How about "apt-cache search kde | grep ^kde" ? Andreas -- You teach best what you most need to learn. pgpwySZAwrtH0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid
Hi: Thanks Seven, Daniel and Ralph for their prompt advices. On Wednesday 02 April 2003 12:27, Sven Kissner wrote: > Hi Aryan, > > just move ~/.kde out of the wa a ky (maybe to ~/.kde.old), it contains > all of your settings. (you may check /etc/ fordm dir, also..). Aside from ~/.kde, I also have a /etc/kde3, shall I also backup this directory? Will restoring these two directories, really restore all my KDE settings? like konqueror's bookmarks and KMail's filters? I'm afraid I am just a bit worried. What about my ~/.Mail directory. I guess this one is used by KMail, will removing KMail also remove this directory? What about fonts that I have installed via KDE Control Center's font installer? Shall I also reinstall them after installing the new KDE? On Wednesday 02 April 2003 13:04, Daniel Stone wrote: > and then run apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase > kdenetwork kdeutils [...] Where can I get the names of the these metapackages? Cheers -- /* Those who do not understand Unix *are condemned to reinvent it, poorly */ -Henry Spencer Aryan Ameri
Re: Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 02 April 2003 09:57, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Hi there: > > I am currently running Karolina's KDE 3.1 RC5 Packages for sid (compiled > with gcc 2.95) on my system, which is a mixture of sarge/sid. After > hearing so much, about the disadvantages of keeping a mix system, and > now that KDE 3.1.1 is in sid, I decided to upgrade completely to sid. > But apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove 292 packages, including all > KDE packages. > > Is there any way upgrade instead of remove/install? Because I really > can't afford to lose all my KDE settings. Is there alteast, some way to > save all these application settings (like Konqueror and KMail) and then > restore them? > Your personal KDE settings are stored in $HOME/.kde, so you don't loose them if you're upgrading. You may experience though that the one or the other app from karolina may not be available in sid though. Ralf > Cheers > -- > > > /* Those who do not understand Unix > *are condemned to reinvent it, poorly */ > -Henry Spencer > Aryan Ameri - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+irN9u0nKi+w1Ky8RAobNAJ9PFNL8B0NZfLU78uWJcqf49zxMbACfdF8k gEr9PWa1Hpf4u4cxHVvn5Ms= =QpaF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:57:43AM +0300, Aryan Ameri scrawled: > I am currently running Karolina's KDE 3.1 RC5 Packages for sid (compiled > with gcc 2.95) on my system, which is a mixture of sarge/sid. After > hearing so much, about the disadvantages of keeping a mix system, and > now that KDE 3.1.1 is in sid, I decided to upgrade completely to sid. > But apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove 292 packages, including all > KDE packages. > > Is there any way upgrade instead of remove/install? Because I really > can't afford to lose all my KDE settings. Is there alteast, some way to > save all these application settings (like Konqueror and KMail) and then > restore them? Unfortunately, as Karolina's packages are basically a fork, and she does not believe in Conflicts/Replaces, there's no way we can provide a clean upgrade path. Your best bet is to remove kdelibs4 and libarts1, as well as the rest of the remenants of Karolina's packaging, and then run apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdenetwork kdeutils [...]. -- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Developer, Trinity College, University of Melbourne pgpX271FCSSnn.pgp Description: PGP signature
AW: Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid
Hi Aryan, just move ~/.kde out of the way (maybe to ~/.kde.old), it contains all of your settings. (you may check /etc/ for a kdm dir, also..). then purge your current kde installation. this is recommended because a straight upgrade-path is not guaranteed with unofficial repositories. after that, install kde from sid, run it, and migrate your settings from ~/.kde.old to ~/.kde step by step. for me this works great and without greater issues.. hope this helps sven > -UrsprÃngliche Nachricht- > Von: Aryan Ameri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. April 2003 10:15 > An: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid > > > Hi there: > > I am currently running Karolina's KDE 3.1 RC5 Packages for > sid (compiled > with gcc 2.95) on my system, which is a mixture of sarge/sid. After > hearing so much, about the disadvantages of keeping a mix system, and > now that KDE 3.1.1 is in sid, I decided to upgrade completely to sid. > But apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove 292 packages, including all > KDE packages. > > Is there any way upgrade instead of remove/install? Because I really > can't afford to lose all my KDE settings. Is there alteast, > some way to > save all these application settings (like Konqueror and > KMail) and then > restore them? > > Cheers > -- > > > /* Those who do not understand Unix > *are condemned to reinvent it, poorly */ > -Henry Spencer > Aryan Ameri > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Upgrading to KDE 3.1 in Sid
Hi there: I am currently running Karolina's KDE 3.1 RC5 Packages for sid (compiled with gcc 2.95) on my system, which is a mixture of sarge/sid. After hearing so much, about the disadvantages of keeping a mix system, and now that KDE 3.1.1 is in sid, I decided to upgrade completely to sid. But apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove 292 packages, including all KDE packages. Is there any way upgrade instead of remove/install? Because I really can't afford to lose all my KDE settings. Is there alteast, some way to save all these application settings (like Konqueror and KMail) and then restore them? Cheers -- /* Those who do not understand Unix *are condemned to reinvent it, poorly */ -Henry Spencer Aryan Ameri
Re: KDE 3.1 and emacs/Xemacs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 March 2003 03:37, Andreas Goesele wrote: > Hi, > > I just moved from 3.04 to 3.1 (under Debian woody) and must say I'm > positively impressed. > > But, there is a big problem I seem to have every time I move to a new > KDE version. > > KDE doesn't heed my geometry settings for emacs and Xemacs. It is very > annoying: I have geometry settings which would make emacs and Xemacs > fill the whole screen, but both start under KDE 3.1 around two lines > smaller than windows size. For Xemacs the situation is even worse: It > first starts 2 lines to small but then it is further reduced in size > for about 10 lines! > > What I tried, all with no avail: > > - I asked for some more lines in my geometry settings in .Xresources. > > - I removed Emacs.ad out of /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults. > > - I made sure to have "Apply colors to non-KDE applications" > > Is there anything else I could do? Is there some better place to ask > this question? bugs.kde.org Please file a bugreport on kwin in this case. Do a dpkg -l and append that to your bugreport so we can reproduce the behavior. Ralf > > Thanks a lot in advance, > > Andreas Goesele - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+eYT2u0nKi+w1Ky8RAl/1AJ0Sj9BOzbHq9qKysErOZywfTAW4agCfergh lcJ9Bk6EQDoU8FLGimCT+u4= =EphO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
KDE 3.1 and emacs/Xemacs
Hi, I just moved from 3.04 to 3.1 (under Debian woody) and must say I'm positively impressed. But, there is a big problem I seem to have every time I move to a new KDE version. KDE doesn't heed my geometry settings for emacs and Xemacs. It is very annoying: I have geometry settings which would make emacs and Xemacs fill the whole screen, but both start under KDE 3.1 around two lines smaller than windows size. For Xemacs the situation is even worse: It first starts 2 lines to small but then it is further reduced in size for about 10 lines! What I tried, all with no avail: - I asked for some more lines in my geometry settings in .Xresources. - I removed Emacs.ad out of /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults. - I made sure to have "Apply colors to non-KDE applications" Is there anything else I could do? Is there some better place to ask this question? Thanks a lot in advance, Andreas Goesele
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 March 2003 21:46, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: > On Saturday 15 March 2003 20:19, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > > HEY Muß das sein? -Bleib mal cool -OK > > Wo steht das das ne englische Liste ist. > > Mag sein, das dort englisch geschrieben wird aber deswegen wird es wohl > > keine wirklich stören wenn ich da nun mal auf Deutsch schreibe -- Ich > > kann nicht so gut englisch, das ich dort verständlich erklären kann was > > ich will. Aber da es garantiert ne menge Leute dort gibt die Deutsch > > sprechen werde ich ja wohl bessere Karten haben, wenn ich auf Deutsch > > schreibe. Schreib doch mal deine Mail die du an mich geschrieben hast an > > die Liste, ich kann mir nicht vorstellen , das die anderen alle deine > > Meinung vertreten. > > Also, ich bin die Meinung dass es hier Englisch geschrieben wird. Ich habe > dir schon eine deutsche debian mailliste empfohlen, und ich bin nicht die > Meinung dass du bessere Ratschläge bekommst nur weil du dich besser > formulieren kannst auf Deutsch als auf Englisch. > > Hast du überhaupt deine Fragen in debian-user-german probiert? Es sitzen > sehr kompetente Leute dort. > > Ein alternativ ist selbstverständlich eine debian-kde-german liste > aufzumachen. ...oder ein adopt-a-user Programm bei dem man alle neuen user an die Hand nimmt :-) Wer sich nur in seiner Sprache verständlich machen kann dem sollte dann jemand in privater Email helfen sein System hinzukriegen. Ich wüsste nicht das das dann noch etwas mit einer englischen mailingliste zu tun hat. Hier wird nun mal englisch gesprochen. Ralf > > > I just tried to argue for the use of English on debian-kde by giving > reference to debian-user-german. Is there enough traffic for a > debian-kde-german mailing list? > > -- > Svenn - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dGWQu0nKi+w1Ky8RAkGNAJ9AK89k8kpyYjw2Dsy6rpw7tqe3CwCdEbp7 QHUQBdYXuqDEfBIfCFYiZJk= =XRqc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
Thomas Fiedler wrote: > > > -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- > > Subject: Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge? > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:15:51 +0100 > From: Thomas Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Am Samstag, 15. März 2003 20:08 sVerzeichnischrieben Sie: >> * Thomas Fiedler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030315 17:12]: >> >> also ein bisschen doof must du ja schon sein. das ist eine >> englische liste, schreib auf englisch. > > HEY Muß das sein? -Bleib mal cool -OK > Wo steht das das ne englische Liste ist. > Mag sein, das dort englisch geschrieben wird aber deswegen wird es wohl > keine wirklich stören wenn ich da nun mal auf Deutsch schreibe -- Ich kann > nicht so gut englisch, das ich dort verständlich erklären kann was ich > will. Aber da es garantiert ne menge Leute dort gibt die Deutsch sprechen > werde ich ja wohl bessere Karten haben, wenn ich auf Deutsch schreibe. > Schreib doch mal deine Mail die du an mich geschrieben hast an die Liste, > ich kann mir nicht vorstellen , das die anderen alle deine Meinung > vertreten. Sorry, I can't understand, why you are so angry about this serious advice. I know that my English is not the best, too, but I think that everyone here, especially the native speakers are accepting this fact. Bye Martin
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
On Saturday 15 March 2003 20:19, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > HEY Muß das sein? -Bleib mal cool -OK > Wo steht das das ne englische Liste ist. > Mag sein, das dort englisch geschrieben wird aber deswegen wird es wohl > keine wirklich stören wenn ich da nun mal auf Deutsch schreibe -- Ich kann > nicht so gut englisch, das ich dort verständlich erklären kann was ich > will. Aber da es garantiert ne menge Leute dort gibt die Deutsch sprechen > werde ich ja wohl bessere Karten haben, wenn ich auf Deutsch schreibe. > Schreib doch mal deine Mail die du an mich geschrieben hast an die Liste, > ich kann mir nicht vorstellen , das die anderen alle deine Meinung > vertreten. Also, ich bin die Meinung dass es hier Englisch geschrieben wird. Ich habe dir schon eine deutsche debian mailliste empfohlen, und ich bin nicht die Meinung dass du bessere Ratschläge bekommst nur weil du dich besser formulieren kannst auf Deutsch als auf Englisch. Hast du überhaupt deine Fragen in debian-user-german probiert? Es sitzen sehr kompetente Leute dort. Ein alternativ ist selbstverständlich eine debian-kde-german liste aufzumachen. I just tried to argue for the use of English on debian-kde by giving reference to debian-user-german. Is there enough traffic for a debian-kde-german mailing list? -- Svenn
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
Am Samstag, 15. März 2003 20:22 schrieb Jan Schumacher: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 15 March 2003 16:51, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > > OK, dann werd ich dann mal loslegen. > > Rein theoreitisch dürfte das ja ziemlich leicht gehen. > > Eine paar kleinere Fragen noch. --sorry. > > Ich weiß wie man das System zu einem art Grundstein basteln kann. Also > > eben nur xserver-xfree86 xtrem usw. ,so das man danach durch das > > installieren der kde 3.1 Pakete via ftp (noch ohne X im Textmodus) ,den > > Rest ,also kdm und alles was fürn Desktop noch so gebraucht wird , > > hinzufügen kann, und darum keine der WoodyCD's einlesen läßt??? --Etwas > > blöd formuliert vielleicht, aber wäre das vorgehen so ok, oder müßen die > > cd's eingelesen werden?? Ich Frage, weil ich vermute, das apt, wenn die > > ganzen woody-CD's eigelesen sind, dann aus zwei nicht zueinander > > passenden KDE -Versionen installiert,und somit ja wieder alles daneben > > gehen würde. > > Die Gefahr sollte nicht bestehen, da apt klug genug ist, ohne weiteres die > neueste Version zu wählen. Die CDs kannst Du ruhig einlesen. Ich weiss > nicht, was bei Dir letztes mal schiefgegangen ist, aber die die > verschiedenen KDE Versionen lassen sich meines Wissens nicht parallel > installieren. Mit der debline von oben, sollte nur KDE3.1 ausgewählt > werden. Aus der faq: > > $ apt-get update && apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdegraphics > kdeadmin kdemultimedia Ok, dann Hab nochmal schön Dank, dann werd ich mich dann mal ran wagen. Hoffentlich geht es diesmal gut ... Thomas
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
On Saturday 15 March 2003 16:51, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > OK, dann werd ich dann mal loslegen. > Rein theoreitisch dürfte das ja ziemlich leicht gehen. > Eine paar kleinere Fragen noch. --sorry. Please Thomas, how about subscribing to debian-user-german maillist on http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/ as your questions can be answered by German experts. Bitte Thomas, wie wär's mit eine deutsche Liste? Du kriegst genau so gut hilfe dort. Hier solltest Du in Englisch schreiben, bitte. -- Svenn
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 March 2003 16:51, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > OK, dann werd ich dann mal loslegen. > Rein theoreitisch dürfte das ja ziemlich leicht gehen. > Eine paar kleinere Fragen noch. --sorry. > Ich weiß wie man das System zu einem art Grundstein basteln kann. Also eben > nur xserver-xfree86 xtrem usw. ,so das man danach durch das installieren > der kde 3.1 Pakete via ftp (noch ohne X im Textmodus) ,den Rest ,also kdm > und alles was fürn Desktop noch so gebraucht wird , hinzufügen kann, und > darum keine der WoodyCD's einlesen läßt??? --Etwas blöd formuliert > vielleicht, aber wäre das vorgehen so ok, oder müßen die cd's eingelesen > werden?? Ich Frage, weil ich vermute, das apt, wenn die ganzen woody-CD's > eigelesen sind, dann aus zwei nicht zueinander passenden KDE -Versionen > installiert,und somit ja wieder alles daneben gehen würde. Die Gefahr sollte nicht bestehen, da apt klug genug ist, ohne weiteres die neueste Version zu wählen. Die CDs kannst Du ruhig einlesen. Ich weiss nicht, was bei Dir letztes mal schiefgegangen ist, aber die die verschiedenen KDE Versionen lassen sich meines Wissens nicht parallel installieren. Mit der debline von oben, sollte nur KDE3.1 ausgewählt werden. Aus der faq: $ apt-get update && apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdegraphics kdeadmin kdemultimedia [Question was approx.: If I install Woody from CDs, will I get in trouble because I install a mix of Woody's and Ralph's packages?] No you shouldn't have a problem, as apt is smart enough to choose the newest version. Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+c31q4cR0MEP0sUQRArKpAKDINbiGthkws7JmkTtC5otfY6ZfRQCgvLCP aKsaLmb0XdV1wQEN4+1p2sc= =ldQJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge? Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:15:51 +0100 From: Thomas Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Am Samstag, 15. März 2003 20:08 schrieben Sie: > * Thomas Fiedler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030315 17:12]: > > also ein bisschen doof must du ja schon sein. das ist eine > englische liste, schreib auf englisch. HEY Muß das sein? -Bleib mal cool -OK Wo steht das das ne englische Liste ist. Mag sein, das dort englisch geschrieben wird aber deswegen wird es wohl keine wirklich stören wenn ich da nun mal auf Deutsch schreibe -- Ich kann nicht so gut englisch, das ich dort verständlich erklären kann was ich will. Aber da es garantiert ne menge Leute dort gibt die Deutsch sprechen werde ich ja wohl bessere Karten haben, wenn ich auf Deutsch schreibe. Schreib doch mal deine Mail die du an mich geschrieben hast an die Liste, ich kann mir nicht vorstellen , das die anderen alle deine Meinung vertreten. ---
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge? Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:51:53 +0100 From: Thomas Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-KDE List" > > Irgendwas, was wie eine Anleitung, die bei jedem funktioniert. > > So wie Basissystem von der CD dann apt - setup ---> die quelle in die > > source.list eintragen > apt-get "irgendwas" und dann wird gezogen > > und installiert. Oder sind die Paket nicht so vollständig, das man > > irgendwas zusätzliches braucht?? > > Eigentlich klappt das ganz gut. Die Ultrakurzversion ist: > > Normales Woody installieren, aber ohne KDE, ggf. KDE komplett > deinstallieren. Dann in sources.list die Zeile > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main > > einfügen, > > $ apt-get update > > Dann mit apt oder dem Frontend Deiner Wahl KDE Pakete nach Gusto auswählen. > > Gruß > Jan OK, dann werd ich dann mal loslegen. Rein theoreitisch dürfte das ja ziemlich leicht gehen. Eine paar kleinere Fragen noch. --sorry. Ich weiß wie man das System zu einem art Grundstein basteln kann. Also eben nur xserver-xfree86 xtrem usw. ,so das man danach durch das installieren der kde 3.1 Pakete via ftp (noch ohne X im Textmodus) ,den Rest ,also kdm und alles was fürn Desktop noch so gebraucht wird , hinzufügen kann, und darum keine der WoodyCD's einlesen läßt??? --Etwas blöd formuliert vielleicht, aber wäre das vorgehen so ok, oder müßen die cd's eingelesen werden?? Ich Frage, weil ich vermute, das apt, wenn die ganzen woody-CD's eigelesen sind, dann aus zwei nicht zueinander passenden KDE -Versionen installiert,und somit ja wieder alles daneben gehen würde. ---Thomas ---
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
> > Irgendwas, was wie eine Anleitung, die bei jedem funktioniert. > > So wie Basissystem von der CD dann apt - setup ---> die quelle in die > > source.list eintragen > apt-get "irgendwas" und dann wird gezogen > > und installiert. Oder sind die Paket nicht so vollständig, das man > > irgendwas zusätzliches braucht?? > > Eigentlich klappt das ganz gut. Die Ultrakurzversion ist: > > Normales Woody installieren, aber ohne KDE, ggf. KDE komplett > deinstallieren. Dann in sources.list die Zeile > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main > > einfügen, > > $ apt-get update > > Dann mit apt oder dem Frontend Deiner Wahl KDE Pakete nach Gusto auswählen. > > Gruß > Jan OK, dann werd ich dann mal loslegen. Rein theoreitisch dürfte das ja ziemlich leicht gehen. Eine paar kleinere Fragen noch. --sorry. Ich weiß wie man das System zu einem art Grundstein basteln kann. Also eben nur xserver-xfree86 xtrem usw. ,so das man danach durch das installieren der kde 3.1 Pakete via ftp (noch ohne X im Textmodus) ,den Rest ,also kdm und alles was fürn Desktop noch so gebraucht wird , hinzufügen kann, und darum keine der WoodyCD's einlesen läßt??? --Etwas blöd formuliert vielleicht, aber wäre das vorgehen so ok, oder müßen die cd's eingelesen werden?? Ich Frage, weil ich vermute, das apt, wenn die ganzen woody-CD's eigelesen sind, dann aus zwei nicht zueinander passenden KDE -Versionen installiert,und somit ja wieder alles daneben gehen würde. ---Thomas
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Short English TOC: How to get KDE 3.1 for Woody if you can't read the English faq] On Saturday 15 March 2003 02:31, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > > Das kann Dir keiner beantworten. KDE3.1 ist inzwischen größtenteils in > > Sid. Wenn Du aber nur wegen KDE auf Testing gewechselt hast, würde ich > > Dir empfehlen es nocheinmal mit Woody zu versuchen und Ralf Noldens > > Backport zu verwenden. Diesen findest Du mit: > > > > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main > > > > Gruß > > Jan > > Hallo mal und Danke für die Antwort. Hallo und gern geschehen. Du wolltest vermutlich an die Liste antworten, was in Kmail mit "L" für reply-to-list anstatt "R" für reply geht. > Ich habe schon 4 oder 5 mal versucht KDE 3.1 in Woody zu bringen. 1x hatte > ich es fast geschafft. Also das System lief, aber irgendwie nicht richtig. > Dann habe ich nochmal alles neu installiert und ab da ging dann nix > mehr.Ich habe es noch ein paar mal Versucht, immer wieder neu > Installiert,(ganzschöner stress immer die 8 cd's einzulesen -lol) -nichts > ging mehr. Warscheinlich ist da zwischenzeitlich irgendeine Datei ins > Woodypacket (auf dem Server) gekommen die irgendwie stört. Ich weiß nicht. > > Jetzt hatte ich es nach diesen mehfachen Versuchen erstmal satt -lol und > habe suse drauf gemacht. -Aber der Gedanke es nochmal zu versuchen kam > mir schon wiederholt.(hab mich vom Stress erholt). > Gibt es denn diese Anleitung von Ralf Nolden auch auf Deutsch -- oder sonst > irgendwo eine ?? Auf Deutsch kenne ich keine, z.Zt. kann Dir vermutlich nur http://www.davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html auf Englisch weiterhelfen. > Irgendwas, was wie eine Anleitung, die bei jedem funktioniert. > So wie Basissystem von der CD dann apt - setup ---> die quelle in die > source.list eintragen > apt-get "irgendwas" und dann wird gezogen und > installiert. Oder sind die Paket nicht so vollständig, das man irgendwas > zusätzliches braucht?? Eigentlich klappt das ganz gut. Die Ultrakurzversion ist: Normales Woody installieren, aber ohne KDE, ggf. KDE komplett deinstallieren. Dann in sources.list die Zeile deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main einfügen, $ apt-get update Dann mit apt oder dem Frontend Deiner Wahl KDE Pakete nach Gusto auswählen. Gruß Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cy/C4cR0MEP0sUQRAmWPAKCVfA/44Lh1Guwmwkpt2MKV4ZRTGgCeNk58 HDZA6yHEUeNWmBSyA1NqQXs= =bs25 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
Thomas Fiedler wrote: > Hallo alle. Hi Thomas, > Ich hätte da mal ne Frage. zuallerst: Dies ist eine englischsprachige Newsgroup/Mailingliste, wenn du also Antworten bekommen möchtest würde ich es normalerweise auf Englisch versuchen. > Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der > Source.list , da wo "stable" steht "testing" hingeschrieben. -Dachte das > ich > da dann Sarge bekommen könnte. -- War das Sarge?? oder habe ich da was > anderes gezogen? Nein, das stimmt schon. > Nun aber meine eigentliche Frage. Ich gehe mal davon aus das das Sarge war > . Wann kommt den KDE 3.1 dort dazu?? Genaues weiss ich leider nicht, offiziell können pakete aus unstable erst dann nach testing, wenn sie eine bestimmte Zeit lang keine kritischen Fehler hatten. Dies muss natürlich auch für die Pakete gelten, von denen das Paket abhängt. Viele Grüsse Martin
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
On Saturday 15 March 2003 02:04, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Too switch back to english: it is not correct that sarge was not updated > for a long time. In fact, there was a big upgrade to libc-2.3.1 lately that > also pulled in LOTS of other packages. Lately being the key word. I don't follow sarge, but from what I can tell it sounds like a bad place to be at the moment. :) Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: KDE 3.1 installation help || bare bones
lÃvvardat, njukÄamÃnu 15. b. 2003 08.14, Sean Fraley don ÄÃllet: > On Friday 14 March 2003 11:19 pm, Metnetsky wrote: > > I am running an absolutely base bare-bones install of Debian from the > > b42.4 binary. What do I need to get KDE 3.1 up and running? Probably a > > packed question, but it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in > > advance. > > > > ~ Matthew > > put the following lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file > > deb ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable main > > then type the following: > > apt-get update > apt-get install kdebase > > apt-get should handle all of the pacikage dependencies for you. You'll also have to type this: apt-get install x-window-system-core to install the X server and fonts. Also consider: apt-get install kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdeutils kdeadmin kdeedu kdeartwork kdeaddons kdesdk to experience the full kde desktop ... BÃrre Gaup, Kiruna, Sweden pgpsLZEjDMvMa.pgp Description: signature
Re: KDE 3.1 installation help || bare bones
On Friday 14 March 2003 11:19 pm, Metnetsky wrote: > I am running an absolutely base bare-bones install of Debian from the > b42.4 binary. What do I need to get KDE 3.1 up and running? Probably a > packed question, but it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in > advance. > > ~ Matthew put the following lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file deb ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable main then type the following: apt-get update apt-get install kdebase apt-get should handle all of the pacikage dependencies for you.
KDE 3.1 installation help || bare bones
I am running an absolutely base bare-bones install of Debian from the b42.4 binary. What do I need to get KDE 3.1 up and running? Probably a packed question, but it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. ~ Matthew
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 15. März 2003 01:23 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen: > On Friday 14 March 2003 22:06, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > > Hallo alle. > > Ich hätte da mal ne Frage. > > Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der > > Source.list , da wo "stable" steht "testing" hingeschrieben. -Dachte das > > Ich spreche nicht zu viel Deutch aber Ich möchte gern sagen das es ist > einer slechtes ide sarge zum brauchen. Es wird nicht opdatirt für viele > monaten. Kein sicherheits opdatirung oder anderes. KDE will nicht in sarge > gehen zum 6 monaten (mein estimat). Die bestes idee sind woody oder sid zum > brauchen. Too switch back to english: it is not correct that sarge was not updated for a long time. In fact, there was a big upgrade to libc-2.3.1 lately that also pulled in LOTS of other packages. HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cnwOzvr6q9zCwcERAj27AKC0Vf5phzJ5V7wZx8pMrl7Nc411dwCeKiCy +LF+NITetw/3uLC2+FSirYE= =fCvd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 March 2003 22:06, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > Hallo alle. Hi, > Ich hätte da mal ne Frage. auf der Liste wird meistens Englisch geschrieben, weswegen Dich viele auf Deutsch nicht verstehen werden. Deine Fragen im Folgenden sind auf der Liste bereits beantwortet, so dass Dir das Archiv weiterhelfen könnte. Für den Fall, dass Du mit der Sprache Schwierigkeiten hast die Kurzversion: > Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der > Source.list , da wo "stable" steht "testing" hingeschrieben. -Dachte das > ich da dann Sarge bekommen könnte. -- War das Sarge?? oder habe ich da was > anderes gezogen? Das ist z.Zt. Sarge, also die nächste Distribution. Unstable wird Sid genannt. > Nun aber meine eigentliche Frage. Ich gehe mal davon aus das das Sarge war > . Wann kommt den KDE 3.1 dort dazu?? Das kann Dir keiner beantworten. KDE3.1 ist inzwischen größtenteils in Sid. Wenn Du aber nur wegen KDE auf Testing gewechselt hast, würde ich Dir empfehlen es nocheinmal mit Woody zu versuchen und Ralf Noldens Backport zu verwenden. Diesen findest Du mit: deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main Gruß Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+cnGx4cR0MEP0sUQRAnSzAKC3oTO1BHXH+3w2hePCkuuhjjDlHACgyzFd yGzsKMhg/wNzlk8egYx4wqo= =2fy+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
On Friday 14 March 2003 22:06, Thomas Fiedler wrote: > Hallo alle. > Ich hätte da mal ne Frage. > Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der > Source.list , da wo "stable" steht "testing" hingeschrieben. -Dachte das Ich spreche nicht zu viel Deutch aber Ich möchte gern sagen das es ist einer slechtes ide sarge zum brauchen. Es wird nicht opdatirt für viele monaten. Kein sicherheits opdatirung oder anderes. KDE will nicht in sarge gehen zum 6 monaten (mein estimat). Die bestes idee sind woody oder sid zum brauchen. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1 on Debian GNU/Linux
KDE 3.1 in Sarge?
Hallo alle. Ich hätte da mal ne Frage. Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen mal in Debian Woody bei dem Quellen in der Source.list , da wo "stable" steht "testing" hingeschrieben. -Dachte das ich da dann Sarge bekommen könnte. -- War das Sarge?? oder habe ich da was anderes gezogen? Nun aber meine eigentliche Frage. Ich gehe mal davon aus das das Sarge war . Wann kommt den KDE 3.1 dort dazu?? ..Thomas
Re: Map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE 3.1
Carl Baldwin wrote: Is anyone out there able to map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE. I have been wondering about this for a long time. Right now I am using KDE 3.1 and would like to map extra keys on the keyboard to control xmms. I can't find a way to do it from the control center and I have searched the web for a while without a clue. Thanks for your help, Carl Baldwin I use xmms-kde, is a kicker applet with a lot of skins, very configurable and with OSD Sincerely I have only one short cut: ctrl+c to pause/play :)
Re: Map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE 3.1
On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:27, Carl Baldwin wrote: > Is anyone out there able to map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE. I > have been wondering about this for a long time. Right now I am using > KDE 3.1 and would like to map extra keys on the keyboard to control > xmms. I can't find a way to do it from the control center and I have > searched the web for a while without a clue. The program khotkeys is probably what you want. Unfortunately it has no frontend in the Control Panel yet, but you can use the KDE Menu Editor for that if you do not want to edit the config file directly. Cheers, Yven -- Yven Johannes Leist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.leist.beldesign.de
Re: Map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE 3.1
Carl Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is anyone out there able to map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE. I > have been wondering about this for a long time. Right now I am using > KDE 3.1 and would like to map extra keys on the keyboard to control > xmms. I can't find a way to do it from the control center and I have > searched the web for a while without a clue. A workaround is to put the commands you want in the K menu by using the menu editor. Then, you can assign a shortcut key (and you can hide the menu entry, if you don't want it to appear in the regular K menu). Regards, Gaute Hvoslef Kvalnes
Re: Map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE 3.1
Give the hotkeys package a try. Not KDE related but it does the trick (in every desktop environment). --Felix
Re: Map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE 3.1
On Thursday 13 March 2003 01:27, Carl Baldwin wrote: > Is anyone out there able to map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE. I > have been wondering about this for a long time. Right now I am using > KDE 3.1 and would like to map extra keys on the keyboard to control > xmms. I can't find a way to do it from the control center and I have > searched the web for a while without a clue. There seem to be several kicker applets available for integrating xmms with KDE. See http://apps.kde.com and search for xmms. Michael -- Michael Schuerig They tell you that the darkness mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a blessing in disguise. http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ --Janis Ian, "From Me To You"
Map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE 3.1
Is anyone out there able to map keys to arbitrary commands in KDE. I have been wondering about this for a long time. Right now I am using KDE 3.1 and would like to map extra keys on the keyboard to control xmms. I can't find a way to do it from the control center and I have searched the web for a while without a clue. Thanks for your help, Carl Baldwin
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sid ?
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:16:22 +0200 Aryan Ameri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I last read the list on 20 Feburary. After that I didn't have access > to internet, untill today. So I couldn't keep myself uptodate. So why didn't you keep uptodate today, since you've obviously managed to connect to the Internet and see for yourself ? About the answer to your question, KDE 3.1 Sid is not complete yet. -- Lucas Moulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Why go against tradition when we can admit defeat, live in decline, be the victim of our own design" -- NOFX pgpi05Bel5qNq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE 3.1 in Sid ?
Hi Aryan, there has been an update from Chris Cheney on Sunday which you can find at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200303/msg00253.html Short answer: No, it's still not complete. (But complete enough for me.) If you're in need of kdenetwork you can get most (all?) of it from http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ or by adding this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ ./ If you would like to know what has been going on you can find the archive of this list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/ . Regards, Felix
KDE 3.1 in Sid ?
Hi There: You've probably got tired of this tread but I couldn't resist asking. I last read the list on 20 Feburary. After that I didn't have access to internet, untill today. So I couldn't keep myself uptodate. At that time ( 20 feburary ) KDE 3.1 was partly in sid, but some packages like kdenetwork weren't still in sid ( I guess they had compilation problems on non-i386 systems). I wonder Is KDE 3.1 now completely in sid? are all the applications on ktown now also in sid? Cheers -- "Dismiss the weak and inferior, embrace the Evil and Possess your Box before the beast that has been unleashed upon you" -UNDEAD EvilEntity Linux Aryan
Re: Tried KDE 3.1 in SID
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > In a kind of fit of PMS I erased and purged my own KDE version and installed > the version in SID yesterday. > > But I removed it and reinstalled my own version today, since the SID version > just gave me too many problems. It was also noticable slower in addition to > the problems. I've been using the kl packages leading upto and beyond the release of KDE3.1. It's been great, thanks! But what is the current policy with regard to which version I should use? What's the difference? Do they both use the same source packages? Both kl and sid versions of kde seem to be kept upto date, as far as I can tell. What about future release candidates and minor upgrades? Sorry for the many questions: the kde debian page doesn't seem to have an exposition on these questions. Thanks, Daniel.
Re: Tried KDE 3.1 in SID
> But I removed it and reinstalled my own version today, since the SID version > just gave me too many problems. It was also noticable slower in addition to > the problems. What kinds of problems? b.
Re: AW: Tried KDE 3.1 in SID
måndagen den 10 mars 2003 11.19 skrev Sven Kissner: > hi karolina, > i'm also using chris' kde (sid). what kind of problems have you > experienced? can you give some details? are there 'major'-differences > between chris' and your packages? enough asked ;-7 It should not really be any major differences, and the SID version should work fine. I am sure they will work out the problems.
AW: Tried KDE 3.1 in SID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi karolina, i'm also using chris' kde (sid). what kind of problems have you experienced? can you give some details? are there 'major'-differences between chris' and your packages? enough asked ;-7 keep on rockin' sven - -- ..never argue with idiots. they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.. > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Karolina Lindqvist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2003 10:30 > An: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Tried KDE 3.1 in SID > > > In a kind of fit of PMS I erased and purged my own KDE > version and installed > the version in SID yesterday. > > But I removed it and reinstalled my own version today, since > the SID version > just gave me too many problems. It was also noticable slower > in addition to > the problems. > > Karolina > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE+bGaUQMzIm8DcSwMRAiseAJ4ug/BGJTQORCqGqv8VRVJoXP+UMwCdGxB6 +Mmz15aQ5GXaQexCGLUxHeM= =Epvu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1 status update
Chris Cheney wrote at Sunday 09 March 2003 05:10: > Also > fontconfig is screwed up now and konsole only sees about half the fonts > it should and some of the ones it does see are being substituted wrong. Don't know why, but this one can be circumvented by allowing fontconfig to use bitmap fonts. Cheers, Jens
Tried KDE 3.1 in SID
In a kind of fit of PMS I erased and purged my own KDE version and installed the version in SID yesterday. But I removed it and reinstalled my own version today, since the SID version just gave me too many problems. It was also noticable slower in addition to the problems. Karolina
Re: upgrading from woody to ralf's kde 3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sonntag, 9. März 2003 18:39, Michael Stahl wrote: > 1. > The packages file was broken when I downloaded the debs (on Tuesday > iirc). I had to download some qt 3.1.2 packages manually. I hear this > has been fixed already. You just hit the wrong moment when I was regenerating the packages file at the same time when the ktown machine's cron was generating the source tarball snapshots from KDE CVS which sets it under heavy load. > > 2. > A package called kmtrace wants to own a file (I think it was > /usr/bin/match) which was also contained in a package called grunch. Ben ? > > 3. > A package called kdesdk-scripts wants to own a file > (/usr/bin/fixincludes) which was also contained in a package called > fixincludes. Ben has been re-working the kdesdk package with those things. Expect it to work with the 3.1.1 release :-) > > 4. > I had various conflicts with the new kdevelop package and the old > kde-i18n-* packages. There need to be conflicts added because kdevelop in 2.1.5 ships the translations itself because they're not in the i18n packages anymore. For now uninstall the KDE 2.2.2 (or 3.0.x) i18n packages, then install kdevelop and the 3.1 i18n packages > > 5. > The libpsi-dev package conflicted with the kopete package (both new > packages). have to have a look. maybe libpsi needs to be removed at all. > 6. > After the install kdm did not want to start. I did not purge the config > files of the old kde2. After a dpkg-reconfigure kdm it would start, > except that it only had default, failsafe and kde3 as session types. > I edited the other 15 window managers manually into the config file. I think there's an upgrade script included in debian. Just don't know how reliable that works with kde 3. > > 7. xine-ui depends on some newer libdirectfb-$something which > unfortunately conflicts with some older libdirectfb-$sthelse. So > installing xine-ui would have me remove clanlib. So no more xine. my libdirectfb is a backport from unstable. Maybe you need to notify the maintainer. > > > I think that was all. I solved all of these by removing the old packages > and deselecting libpsi-dev. Otherwise, no problems (except for the fact > that artsd *still* sucks...). > > I also installed Xfree86 4.2.1, Mozilla 1.2.1, OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 > backports and various packages from marillat.free.fr during the rest of > the week and have not noticed any real problems so far. > > Michael Stahl > > PS: > the kgpg thingy kicks ass :) > > -- > the Zeroth Law of Network Security: > If you want information to be secure, DON'T PUT IT ON THE FUCKING > NETWORK! - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bDhru0nKi+w1Ky8RAkP7AJ4+LEWXBGcBai3XsTIJxQTrGgz+1ACgnG4v b6NUcImp0YfBz6Kv8x4xynw= =tLIv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
upgrading from woody to ralf's kde 3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a relatively stock woody system with a few packages from testing and unstable installed (mainly the libc and ogg vorbis 1.0 from testing and xcdroast from unstable, installed from source) and of course a custom 2.4.20 kernel. And I have installed everything and the kitchen sink from all 7 woody CDs. I did not uninstall anything before upgrading. I have encountered the following problems upgrading from kde 2.2.2 in woody to the kde 3.1 backport packages on ktown.kde.org/~nolden: 1. The packages file was broken when I downloaded the debs (on Tuesday iirc). I had to download some qt 3.1.2 packages manually. I hear this has been fixed already. 2. A package called kmtrace wants to own a file (I think it was /usr/bin/match) which was also contained in a package called grunch. 3. A package called kdesdk-scripts wants to own a file (/usr/bin/fixincludes) which was also contained in a package called fixincludes. 4. I had various conflicts with the new kdevelop package and the old kde-i18n-* packages. 5. The libpsi-dev package conflicted with the kopete package (both new packages). 6. After the install kdm did not want to start. I did not purge the config files of the old kde2. After a dpkg-reconfigure kdm it would start, except that it only had default, failsafe and kde3 as session types. I edited the other 15 window managers manually into the config file. 7. xine-ui depends on some newer libdirectfb-$something which unfortunately conflicts with some older libdirectfb-$sthelse. So installing xine-ui would have me remove clanlib. So no more xine. I think that was all. I solved all of these by removing the old packages and deselecting libpsi-dev. Otherwise, no problems (except for the fact that artsd *still* sucks...). I also installed Xfree86 4.2.1, Mozilla 1.2.1, OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 backports and various packages from marillat.free.fr during the rest of the week and have not noticed any real problems so far. Michael Stahl PS: the kgpg thingy kicks ass :) - -- the Zeroth Law of Network Security: If you want information to be secure, DON'T PUT IT ON THE FUCKING NETWORK! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+a3xMQEcn36CX/AwRAmetAJ43ilP8XI9HO6qG3MSJa3WmpWuhlQCgn8ND Y0MafwdA7T7+JmMR/N1wS/w= =D2Po -END PGP SIGNATURE-
KDE 3.1 status update
I tried compiling kdenetwork and it fails to build. The old version that is on my p.d.o website failed in a meinproc section, and a new checkout from branch fails in a different spot. I also tried building all of KDE using a new checkout from branch but there were various problems. Also fontconfig is screwed up now and konsole only sees about half the fonts it should and some of the ones it does see are being substituted wrong. Hopefully once KDE 3.1.1 gets released (soon) and fontconfig 2.2 is released and the bugs worked out of it I will be able to do another build and upload to debian. Chris
Re: Wine programs and minimize/maximize buttons (KDE 3.1)
Hi! I could solve the problem by installing a current cvs version of wine. Cheers, Stephan On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:21:43 +0100 "Stephan Hachinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > After having installed kde 3.1 (on debian woody), the minimize and > maximize buttons have disappeared for wine programs (but the > windows can still be resized, and "managed" is switched to "yes" in > wine.conf). Has anybody else experienced this problem too, or does > anyone know why this happens? > > TIA, > > Stephan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: KDE 3.1-woody: krec doesn't work
Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 10:42 schrieb Frank Mehnert: > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 14:25, Frank Mehnert wrote: >> I wonder if _anyone_ has success in using krec with your (Ralfs) debs >> under Woody? Everything else other than krec works very well for me. > > PLEASE!!! Could someone who installed Ralf's debs on Woody please try to > start krec? It is the same problem here :-( Thomas
Re: Which KDE 3.1 source should I choose
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:19 pm, Roland Wegmann wrote: > Hello > > I am going to install KDE 3.1. Now there are two possibilities to > install binaries, that are compatible with a ppc system (as far as I > know). The first one are binaries from > 'dep http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1/Debian stable main' and the > second one are the binaries of sid. > > Further I have seen the version of kde.org uses gcc-2.95-* (the gcc I > use at the moment). Which version of gcc use KDE 3.1 from unstable. > > At the moment I am running testing. > > What are the are the pros and cons of each source? > > It would be nice you could give me some tips. > > > > Thanks a lot, Roland > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the Woody packages from KDE.org work with a Testing system. I would un-install a previous version of KDE(2.2) if you have it installed. The Sid packages 'won't' work in Testing without doing a dist-upgrade to Sid. -- Greg Madden
Which KDE 3.1 source should I choose
Hello I am going to install KDE 3.1. Now there are two possibilities to install binaries, that are compatible with a ppc system (as far as I know). The first one are binaries from 'dep http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1/Debian stable main' and the second one are the binaries of sid. Further I have seen the version of kde.org uses gcc-2.95-* (the gcc I use at the moment). Which version of gcc use KDE 3.1 from unstable. At the moment I am running testing. What are the are the pros and cons of each source? It would be nice you could give me some tips. Thanks a lot, Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with the systems sound in KDE 3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 4. März 2003 21:07 schrieb Jens Wolfgarten: > I have a KDE with ALSA running and nearly everything works perfect. I can > play mp3 and wav with xmms and I can play wav with wavp on the console. > > But I cannot hear the system signals from the KDE. Such as notify and so > on. > > Does someone of you know what is missing or perhaps where I can find a > solution? You have to install and run the artsd server. It manages sound output of all kde applications. To let xmms and all other applications still use the sound device, set a low timeout in the artsd setting in kcontrol. One drawback in KDE3.1 (bug): the signal -> system message does not work. Here, the PC speaker is always used instead of a sound over the sound card. HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZSEszvr6q9zCwcERAv4gAJ0aJHFQBnSYQu0bkkJxn72lWH4E/ACgvVB7 QSrA3xbnVh0dj1TxqkTWYao= =kGHQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Sid KDE 3.1, two problems
Hello, after a recent upgrade Konqueror started to segfault reproducibly, upon loading just about any webpage. Here's (what seems to me) a relevant part of the crash dump (it's always quite similar): #5 0x412664b0 in TT_RunIns () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 #6 0x4126277b in gray_raster_render () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 #7 0x41262989 in gray_raster_render () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 #8 0x412348be in FT_Set_Char_Size () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 #9 0x41221608 in _XftSetFace () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 #10 0x412218d1 in XftLockFace () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 #11 0x41223b81 in XftCharIndex () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 #12 0x41220abc in XftTextExtents16 () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 #13 0x408cf7b3 in QFontMetrics::lineWidth() const () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 Needless to say, Konq is for the moment entirely unusable on my system. The other, minor issue: artsd (system sounds) are working erratically. And no, it's not an issue of excessive load or such. It's rather strange: some of the sounds were played only a couple of times, and never again after that. They are no longer played upon the associated events, nor on pressing the `preview' button in the control center. Other sounds continue to work -- as far as I can see it's pretty random which ones work and which don't. I have observed this sound issue on two different Sid boxes, both of which had artsd and kde system sounds working just fine, up to kde3.0 included, until the 3.0->3.1 upgrade. -- Robert J. Budzynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bobo.fuw.edu.pl/~rjb/
Problems with the systems sound in KDE 3.1
Hi everybody! I have a KDE with ALSA running and nearly everything works perfect. I can play mp3 and wav with xmms and I can play wav with wavp on the console. But I cannot hear the system signals from the KDE. Such as notify and so on. Does someone of you know what is missing or perhaps where I can find a solution? Thanks in advance! Jens
Re: Problem after installing KDE 3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 March 2003 01:22 pm, Kay-Michael Voit wrote: > Now what do I have to do now? Where do I have to set my display and > graphic adapter settings? > How do I start it? Sounds like you didn't install X? Run tasksel and select the x-window-system. Should install what you need if you haven't set up X yet. - -- dr - David Richmond Harvard 2006 http://symphonicman.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: DavidTigre201 2205 Harvard Yard Mail Center Cambridge, MA 02138-7512 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZLZbwvr6lJCjkO8RAiOfAKD/e+sWDgD5kOZ1PQ87uDxoR9ZvogCgxEWh Zay8mZEOR1EAIHWQ/UoZUY0= =/OMN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Wine programs and minimize/maximize buttons (KDE 3.1)
Hi! After having installed kde 3.1 (on debian woody), the minimize and maximize buttons have disappeared for wine programs (but the windows can still be resized, and "managed" is switched to "yes" in wine.conf). Has anybody else experienced this problem too, or does anyone know why this happens? TIA, Stephan
Problem after installing KDE 3.1
Hi, I've a problem with KDE 3.1. I'm quite new to Debian, so to start, I installed a basic system without kde and servers. Now I tried to install KDE 3.1, adding deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main to my sources.list and using apt-get install kdebase kdm So far so good. Everythink works fine, and the right packages are installed, i chose kdm as default. At the end of the installation Starting K Desktop Manager: done is printed. Now what do I have to do now? Where do I have to set my display and graphic adapter settings? How do I start it? Thanks for helping, Kay Michael Voit
Re: DUH, was: KDE 3.1, sid - TT fonts screwup
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There was a bug in libfreetype which caused it to screw up reading .gz files. > > Its fixed in the cvs, not sure if its been fixed in debian. fc-cache uses > libfreetype to get the characteristics out of each font. I think one of the > problems was that it misread the header and sometimes expected a zero > terminated string which wasn't necessarily there. > Hmm, maybe. With the latest version of fontconfig in sid, I think memory usage of fc-cache maxed at about 250 MB rather than the previous 500 MB. Still pretty bad, but not quite as disastrous to my system. -- Robert J. Budzyński Computer Center, Dept. of Physics, Warsaw University, Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bobo.fuw.edu.pl/~rjb/
Re: DUH, was: KDE 3.1, sid - TT fonts screwup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 10:38 pm, Robert J. Budzynski wrote: > Oh, and btw there's something seriously wrong with fontconfig. Running > fc-cache takes several hundred MB of memory, and getting fontconfig to > reconfigure successfully required me to shutdown X and setup a temporary > swap file, otherwise fc-cache died with an out of memory condition (taking > out random processes in the act). This is simply unacceptable: on another > box, I saw fc-cache use half a GB at peak, there should at least be a > warning about this somewhere. You can't just assume that every debian box > has well over half a GB of virtual memory available. There was a bug in libfreetype which caused it to screw up reading .gz files. Its fixed in the cvs, not sure if its been fixed in debian. fc-cache uses libfreetype to get the characteristics out of each font. I think one of the problems was that it misread the header and sometimes expected a zero terminated string which wasn't necessarily there. - -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YUDnuFHxcV2FFoIRAhkgAJwKVNuHKuc0rZCjoPPluzmnk+BGuACglOyQ UF328SG8izT4nfTzOJsZufE= =f8lh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
DUH, was: KDE 3.1, sid - TT fonts screwup
Well, DUH. The short story is, I got my TT fonts back. I'll put down the longer story for the record, though, because it's a little weird. OK, so I am using the truetype fonts located on my windows partition, making them available to X by having a directory (that is included in the fontpath in XF86Config-4) populated with symlinks to all of /C/windows/*.ttf. The windows partition is of course mounted on /C, until now the mount options were such that everything under that path was unaccessible to ordinary user accounts (the mode of /C was 700). This didn't matter, since the X server runs as root and could use those fonts just fine. Now, it seems that with the last upgrade, something changed in such a way that kde could no longer make use of those fonts. The fix turned out to be changing the mount options for /C, to ensure the font files are readable to my user account. Simple enough -- but why did the old setup work OK until recently, and why did it stop working? Note that I have been using TT fonts with KDE, including antialiasing, since KDE 2, through the 3.0 packages that were once available from kde.org, and now with sid's kde3.1 as soon as it hit the ftp sites. Oh, and btw there's something seriously wrong with fontconfig. Running fc-cache takes several hundred MB of memory, and getting fontconfig to reconfigure successfully required me to shutdown X and setup a temporary swap file, otherwise fc-cache died with an out of memory condition (taking out random processes in the act). This is simply unacceptable: on another box, I saw fc-cache use half a GB at peak, there should at least be a warning about this somewhere. You can't just assume that every debian box has well over half a GB of virtual memory available. -- Robert J. Budzynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bobo.fuw.edu.pl/~rjb/
Re: how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1 ?
I don't find it funny at all. Any abuse is terrible. Intended as satire. - Original Message - From: "Petter Reinholdtsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Manuel Segura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1 ? > Never mind the people finding the current witch hunt for terrorist > funny. > > [Manuel Segura] > > Please, if some one know how to configure debian to be able > > to send arab mail, it would be great. If not, i would be obliged > > to switch to another distrib for this user :-( > > Sounds like you might be using the wrong display font. Or perhaps the > fonts are not installed? I have no experience with arabic, but for > saami, the unifont package needed to be installed, and the KDE font > had to set to ISO-10646. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1 ?
Never mind the people finding the current witch hunt for terrorist funny. [Manuel Segura] > Please, if some one know how to configure debian to be able > to send arab mail, it would be great. If not, i would be obliged > to switch to another distrib for this user :-( Sounds like you might be using the wrong display font. Or perhaps the fonts are not installed? I have no experience with arabic, but for saami, the unifont package needed to be installed, and the KDE font had to set to ISO-10646.
Re: how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1?
On Saturday 01 March 2003 15:56, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > They are suspects. May have been planted. Sorry again. No arab locales will > be allowed. Lol.. -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1?
Sorry, your text is being reviewed by the HomeLandSecurityOffice. - Original Message - From: "Manuel Segura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 6:26 AM Subject: how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1? > Hello, > I need to send emails using text in arab, > So using woody, I installed kde 3.1 (which has support for arab) > and mozilla 1.2.1 > > the versions used are: > Woody + > + kde 3.1 for woody: > deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/ woody main > + Mozilla 1.2.1 for woody: > deb http://people.debian.org/~frankie/debian/woody/kalem/ / > > - My kernel is the standard 2.4.20 > - I generated all "arabs" locales using dpkg-reconfigure locales, ... They are suspects. May have been planted. Sorry again. No arab locales will be allowed.
how send "arab text" mail with woody+KDE 3.1+ mozilla mail 1.2.1 ?
Hello, I need to send emails using text in arab, So using woody, I installed kde 3.1 (which has support for arab) and mozilla 1.2.1 the versions used are: Woody + + kde 3.1 for woody: deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/ woody main + Mozilla 1.2.1 for woody: deb http://people.debian.org/~frankie/debian/woody/kalem/ / - My kernel is the standard 2.4.20 - I generated all "arabs" locales using dpkg-reconfigure locales, ... - I configured kde to set the "flag" (kde keyboard tool) in the right down corner of the screen tho the keyboard layout "arabic" "ar" - I configured mozilla mail composer: character Coding: Arabic (ISO-8859-6). And when i write the text of the email in mozilla mail, I does not obtain arabic characters: for example: for key s, I obtain the greek beta letter for key e, I obtain the euro character Please, if some one know how to configure debian to be able to send arab mail, it would be great. If not, i would be obliged to switch to another distrib for this user :-( - For your information, knoppix which is a distrib based on debian, can do it. So I think that this should not be very difficult to get it working in woody, but i am blocked now without solution. Thanks for your help Manuel S. -- --- Manuel S. ---
Re: KDE 3.1, sid - TT fonts screwup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 28 Feb 2003 11:31 pm, Robert J. Budzynski wrote: > Hello, > > last night's upgrade on my sid box seems to have destroyed kde's support > for truetype fonts somehow. Currently, for any truetype font I have > installed, the infamous little squares are displayed instead of any glyphs. > Does anyone have a clue WTF is going on? BTW, mozilla on the same box > works w/o any anomalies. > > Of the packages that were upgraded, those that might be relevant were > (iirc) libqt3c102, xserver-xfree86, xserver-common, and (maybe) xlibs. I > can't find any related-seeming error messages in ~/.xsession-errors... I > want my TTfonts back! > -- > Robert J. Budzynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://bobo.fuw.edu.pl/~rjb/ Do you have libfreetye, libxft and fontconfig installed? If so, does /etc/fonts/fonts.conf point at the directories that have truetype fonts in them. Try running fc-cache (this creates a font cache file in the directories (and subdirectories) pointed to by fonts.conf - libqt uses this to look for fonts. If libxft is not installed, I don't know how it works - but I guess its an xserver configuration problem - look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and see what it says in the list of fontpaths. (This is probably the most likely explanation, because I just noted that my config file got "updated" during the last update and my fontpaths got reset - however in my case the fontconfig combination made all this invalid). - -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YGncuFHxcV2FFoIRAl/rAJ0VMMZqETszvTwYleEN5h6DtVTGMwCeIIQH kskcmvaaaPq9B5A1r8yRQ5g= =9Ekq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
KDE 3.1, sid - TT fonts screwup
Hello, last night's upgrade on my sid box seems to have destroyed kde's support for truetype fonts somehow. Currently, for any truetype font I have installed, the infamous little squares are displayed instead of any glyphs. Does anyone have a clue WTF is going on? BTW, mozilla on the same box works w/o any anomalies. Of the packages that were upgraded, those that might be relevant were (iirc) libqt3c102, xserver-xfree86, xserver-common, and (maybe) xlibs. I can't find any related-seeming error messages in ~/.xsession-errors... I want my TTfonts back! -- Robert J. Budzynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bobo.fuw.edu.pl/~rjb/
KDE 3.1 and ISO-8859-2 encoding
Hallo I've installed Sid witk KDE3.1 packages. I'd like to use german interface, but I have sometimes to read or write polish texts. In KDE2.x I had LC_ALL=de_DE and LANG=de_DE and german language/interface in KDE (so Í had german locales and interface) but I could change fonts encoding to ISO-8859-2 (or other). Now it is not possible to change encoding in fonts dialog. When I change locales to pl_PL I have ISO-8859-2 coding, but I'd like to have german locales. Is it posiible to change encoding in KDE3.1 like in KDE2.x? Thanks for help Best regards K.Sobkowiak
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 20:45, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:10, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > > I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend > > > the directories /dist/stable/main/binary-i386 and > > > /dist/woody/main/binary-i386. > > > > > > It's normal? > > > > No, stable is a symlink to woody. You probably pulled once that version, > > once the other directory and in between was my updating of packages :) > > Ok, maybe it would be a good idea to put same update in the change log. > > Did you update daily? No, of course not. As said, I've just updated stuff this week after madkiss and I were done with Qt and we needed updated packages at our company. Ralf > > Leo - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XUEou0nKi+w1Ky8RAhyxAKCZmCKrxt9pmhsuVeqWPNcszjiRLgCdEtWt yiU3HQosYClTD8rMv/2WCeQ= =nOb2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1-woody: krec doesn't work
I have exactly the same problem as you have with krec. Must be a bug. Maybe updating Ralph's packages would help. I havn't tryed that yet. Cheers Peter --- Frank Mehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 14:25, Frank Mehnert > wrote: > > I wonder if _anyone_ has success in using krec > with your (Ralfs) debs under > > Woody? Everything else other than krec works very > well for me. > > PLEASE!!! Could someone who installed Ralf's debs on > Woody please try to > start krec? > > Thanks in advance. > > Frank > -- > ## Dept. of Computer Science, Dresden University of > Technology, Germany ## > ## E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/~fm3 ## > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone.
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:10, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend the > > directories /dist/stable/main/binary-i386 and > > /dist/woody/main/binary-i386. > > > > It's normal? > > No, stable is a symlink to woody. You probably pulled once that version, > once the other directory and in between was my updating of packages :) > Ok, maybe it would be a good idea to put same update in the change log. Did you update daily? Leo
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 10:24, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > Questions to Ralf: > > I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend the > directories /dist/stable/main/binary-i386 and /dist/woody/main/binary-i386. > > It's normal? No, stable is a symlink to woody. You probably pulled once that version, once the other directory and in between was my updating of packages :) Ralf > > Regards, > > Leo - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XREsu0nKi+w1Ky8RAjL0AJ0SCJNmLZyfPJ0AXoC9A0d00QwKiACfexUN R8r8ssNBI5C80i7cyIQmINY= =V49x -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 02:00, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > > > On his site, he only suggests this if you've installed any of the interum > > KDE stuff. I've only ever had the Official Debian KDE2.2.2, therefore it > > 'should upgrade cleanly. > > It should, but it may not do it cleanly and you'll run into conflicts Sure you will have conflicts. > > me. I don't want to remove it first, as I use it on a regular basis and > > need it for my desktop. > > You'll get a 3.1 for it, so what do you want more ? :-) > I updated my box from 3.0.3 to 3.1 (Ralf packages) the last week. More or less it was ok. But I can recommend you one thing for your case I have done before an wget -k -m --no-parent http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/ so, I can do a CD mirror of ktown, and after I do a apt-cdrom. I do this, because if something is wrong you can update, or restore without a dialup. Questions to Ralf: I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend the directories /dist/stable/main/binary-i386 and /dist/woody/main/binary-i386. It's normal? Regards, Leo
Re: KDE 3.1-woody: krec doesn't work
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 14:25, Frank Mehnert wrote: > I wonder if _anyone_ has success in using krec with your (Ralfs) debs under > Woody? Everything else other than krec works very well for me. PLEASE!!! Could someone who installed Ralf's debs on Woody please try to start krec? Thanks in advance. Frank -- ## Dept. of Computer Science, Dresden University of Technology, Germany ## ## E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/~fm3 ## pgppBTFuexiGK.pgp Description: signature
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 01:06, John Gay wrote: > > Don't do this. First remove the kde2.2.2 completely. Then install > > Ralph's packages. On his web site, he talks about installations and > > upgrades. > > On his site, he only suggests this if you've installed any of the interum > KDE stuff. I've only ever had the Official Debian KDE2.2.2, therefore it > 'should upgrade cleanly. It should, but it may not do it cleanly and you'll run into conflicts maybe. I cannot guarantee this because you may have apps installed that aren't available as KDE 3.1 apps from my packages although I have a good portion of KDE apps already in the repository that are from 3rd parties so if there's no replacement available you'll get those deleted. Also, I should remind that apt-get says it's not going to upgrade 21 packages. Be sure, I *didn't* test upgrading from 2.2.2 to 3.1 yet, thats also what the README says. If you don't know what you're doing, remove KDE 2.2.2 first and *then* install 3.1. Hence apt removing the previous version of KDE for > me. I don't want to remove it first, as I use it on a regular basis and > need it for my desktop. You'll get a 3.1 for it, so what do you want more ? :-) > > Cheers, > > John Gay > > > John - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XBHGu0nKi+w1Ky8RArgNAJ9XVVW8pv90bX/LXNUqV7K3AhrX0gCeLmCW ZVodd6LUTRppGYmqNulaQjw= =g/pf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
On Tue 25 Feb 2003 23:10, John Schmidt wrote: > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 3:05 pm, John Gay wrote: > > I've been dreading this, but here goes: > > > > I'm going to do a full upgrade from KDE2.2.2 to KDE3.1 on my Woody > > system. Since Ralfs page does not give any known issues, here is what > > I'm doing. > > > > To be sure I get a Full KDE3.1 system, according to Ralf, I'm using: > > > > debian:/home/johngay# apt-get install kdebase kdm kdenetwork kdepim > > kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeutils kdeedu > > kdeartwork kdegames kdetoys koffice > > > > Cheers, > > > > John Gay > > Don't do this. First remove the kde2.2.2 completely. Then install > Ralph's packages. On his web site, he talks about installations and > upgrades. > On his site, he only suggests this if you've installed any of the interum KDE stuff. I've only ever had the Official Debian KDE2.2.2, therefore it 'should upgrade cleanly. Hence apt removing the previous version of KDE for me. I don't want to remove it first, as I use it on a regular basis and need it for my desktop. Cheers, John Gay > John
Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 3:05 pm, John Gay wrote: > I've been dreading this, but here goes: > > I'm going to do a full upgrade from KDE2.2.2 to KDE3.1 on my Woody > system. Since Ralfs page does not give any known issues, here is what > I'm doing. > > To be sure I get a Full KDE3.1 system, according to Ralf, I'm using: > > debian:/home/johngay# apt-get install kdebase kdm kdenetwork kdepim > kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeutils kdeedu > kdeartwork kdegames kdetoys koffice > > Which yeilds: > > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > amor ark artsbuilder atlantik eyesapplet fifteenapplet flashkard > gphoto2 imlib-base imlib2 kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm kalarmd > kalzium kamera kandy kaphorism kappfinder karbon karm kasteroids > kate kate-plugins katomic kaudiocreator kbabel kbackgammon > kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kcalc kcharselect kchart kcmlinuz > kcoloredit kcontrol kcpuload kcron kdat kdbg > kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc > kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-desktop kdeartwork-theme-window > kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data > kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin > kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins > kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesktop > kdessh kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdict kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba > kfax kfind kfloppy kformula kfouleggs kgeo kget kghostview > kgpgcertmanager khangman khelpcenter khexedit kicker > kicker-applets kiconedit kio-audiocd kit kiten kivio kjots > kjumpingcube klaptopdaemon klettres klickety klines klipper > kmahjongg kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmessedwords kmid kmidi kmines > kmix kmoon kmplot kmrml knetload knewsticker knewsticker-scripts > knode knotes kodo koffice-libs kolf konq-plugins konqueror > konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole kontour kooka korganizer korn > koshell kpackage kpager kpaint kpat kpercentage kpersonalizer kpf > kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler kppp kpresenter krdc krec kreversi krfb > kruler ksame kscd kscreensaver ksensors kshisen ksim ksirc ksirtet > ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake ksnapshot ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash > kspread kstars ksync ksysguard ksysguardd ksysv kteatime ktimer > ktip ktouch ktron ktuberling ktux kugar kuickshow kuser kverbos > kview kviewshell kvoctrain kweather kwin kwin4 kword kworldclock > kxconfig kxmlrpc libart-2.0-2 libart-2.0-dev libarts1 > libarts1-audiofile libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libartsc0 > libcdk4 libexif5 libfinance-quote-perl libglib2.0-0 > libhtml-tableextract-perl libio-stringy-perl libkcal2 libkdeedu1 > libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkgantt0 libkonq4 libkregexpeditor > libkscan1 libmailtools-perl libmime-perl libmimelib1 > libnews-nntpclient-perl libqt3 libqt3-mt libtimedate-perl libwine > libxine0 lskat megami mpeglib noatun noatun-plugins poster > python2.2 quanta secpolicy wine wine-utils xmmsarts yaf > The following packages will be REMOVED: > abbrowser aktion brahms kab kabalone kde kde-designer kde-games > kde-theme-qnix kdebase-audiolibs kdebase-crypto kdebase-dev > kdebase-doc kdebase-libs kdecarddecks kdelibs-dev kdelibs3 > kdelibs3-bin kdelibs3-crypto kdewallpapers kfract kjezz klpq > knetfilter kpm krayon kreatecd kscore kwave libarts libarts-dev > libarts-mpeglib libkdegames libkdenetwork1 libkmid libkmid-dev > libkonq-dev libkonq3 libqt-dev libqt-mt-dev mplayer noteedit > zapping > The following NEW packages will be installed: > atlantik flashkard gphoto2 imlib2 kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm > kalarmd kalzium kamera kandy kaphorism kappfinder karbon > kate-plugins kaudiocreator kbounce kcmlinuz kcontrol kdat > kdeaddons kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins > kdeartwork kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style > kdeartwork-theme-desktop kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-bin > kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu kdeedu-data kdegames > kdegames-card-data kdegraphics kdegraphics-kfile-plugins > kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia > kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-kfile-plugins > kdepim kdeprint kdesktop kdessh kdetoys kdeutils kdm kdvi keduca > kenolaba kfax kfouleggs kgeo kget kgpgcertmanager khangman > khelpcenter kicker kicker-applets kio-audiocd kiten klaptopdaemon > klettres klickety klipper kmailcvt kmenuedit kmessedwords kmid > kmidi kmplot kmrml knewsticker-scripts kolf konqueror-nsplugins > kooka kpager kpercentage kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpovmodeler kppp > krdc krec krfb ksim ksmserver ksplash kstars ksync ksysguard > ksysguardd ktip ktouch kuickshow kverbos kviewshell kvoctrain > kweather kwin kxconfig kxmlrpc libart-2.0-2 libart-2.0-dev > libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine > libartsc0 libcdk4 libexif5 libfinance-quote-perl libglib2.0-0 > libhtml-tableextract-perl libio-stringy
Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1
I've been dreading this, but here goes: I'm going to do a full upgrade from KDE2.2.2 to KDE3.1 on my Woody system. Since Ralfs page does not give any known issues, here is what I'm doing. To be sure I get a Full KDE3.1 system, according to Ralf, I'm using: debian:/home/johngay# apt-get install kdebase kdm kdenetwork kdepim kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeutils kdeedu kdeartwork kdegames kdetoys koffice Which yeilds: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: amor ark artsbuilder atlantik eyesapplet fifteenapplet flashkard gphoto2 imlib-base imlib2 kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm kalarmd kalzium kamera kandy kaphorism kappfinder karbon karm kasteroids kate kate-plugins katomic kaudiocreator kbabel kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kcalc kcharselect kchart kcmlinuz kcoloredit kcontrol kcpuload kcron kdat kdbg kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-desktop kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesktop kdessh kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdict kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax kfind kfloppy kformula kfouleggs kgeo kget kghostview kgpgcertmanager khangman khelpcenter khexedit kicker kicker-applets kiconedit kio-audiocd kit kiten kivio kjots kjumpingcube klaptopdaemon klettres klickety klines klipper kmahjongg kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmessedwords kmid kmidi kmines kmix kmoon kmplot kmrml knetload knewsticker knewsticker-scripts knode knotes kodo koffice-libs kolf konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole kontour kooka korganizer korn koshell kpackage kpager kpaint kpat kpercentage kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler kppp kpresenter krdc krec kreversi krfb kruler ksame kscd kscreensaver ksensors kshisen ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake ksnapshot ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash kspread kstars ksync ksysguard ksysguardd ksysv kteatime ktimer ktip ktouch ktron ktuberling ktux kugar kuickshow kuser kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kweather kwin kwin4 kword kworldclock kxconfig kxmlrpc libart-2.0-2 libart-2.0-dev libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libartsc0 libcdk4 libexif5 libfinance-quote-perl libglib2.0-0 libhtml-tableextract-perl libio-stringy-perl libkcal2 libkdeedu1 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkgantt0 libkonq4 libkregexpeditor libkscan1 libmailtools-perl libmime-perl libmimelib1 libnews-nntpclient-perl libqt3 libqt3-mt libtimedate-perl libwine libxine0 lskat megami mpeglib noatun noatun-plugins poster python2.2 quanta secpolicy wine wine-utils xmmsarts yaf The following packages will be REMOVED: abbrowser aktion brahms kab kabalone kde kde-designer kde-games kde-theme-qnix kdebase-audiolibs kdebase-crypto kdebase-dev kdebase-doc kdebase-libs kdecarddecks kdelibs-dev kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin kdelibs3-crypto kdewallpapers kfract kjezz klpq knetfilter kpm krayon kreatecd kscore kwave libarts libarts-dev libarts-mpeglib libkdegames libkdenetwork1 libkmid libkmid-dev libkonq-dev libkonq3 libqt-dev libqt-mt-dev mplayer noteedit zapping The following NEW packages will be installed: atlantik flashkard gphoto2 imlib2 kaboodle kaddressbook kalarm kalarmd kalzium kamera kandy kaphorism kappfinder karbon kate-plugins kaudiocreator kbounce kcmlinuz kcontrol kdat kdeaddons kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-desktop kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu kdeedu-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegraphics kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepim kdeprint kdesktop kdessh kdetoys kdeutils kdm kdvi keduca kenolaba kfax kfouleggs kgeo kget kgpgcertmanager khangman khelpcenter kicker kicker-applets kio-audiocd kiten klaptopdaemon klettres klickety klipper kmailcvt kmenuedit kmessedwords kmid kmidi kmplot kmrml knewsticker-scripts kolf konqueror-nsplugins kooka kpager kpercentage kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpovmodeler kppp krdc krec krfb ksim ksmserver ksplash kstars ksync ksysguard ksysguardd ktip ktouch kuickshow kverbos kviewshell kvoctrain kweather kwin kxconfig kxmlrpc libart-2.0-2 libart-2.0-dev libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libartsc0 libcdk4 libexif5 libfinance-quote-perl libglib2.0-0 libhtml-tableextract-perl libio-stringy-perl libkcal2 libkdeedu1 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkgantt0 libkonq4 libkregexpeditor libkscan1 libmailtools-perl libmime-perl libnews-nntpclient-perl libqt3 libqt3-mt libtimedate-perl libxine0 megami noatu
Re: KDE 3.1/Xinerama/Wallpaper
* Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030225 00:08]: > Am Montag, 24. Februar 2003 22:21 schrieb Sebastian Gutweiler: > > * Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030224 17:15]: > > > Did you ever look at the configuration option for the background image? > > > Well, if you tell it to stretch the image, it will do so. > > This is what I not want. I have nice mages (for example a > > Tropical Island) in high resolutions. If such an image is stretched across > > two screens with different resolutions, it really looks ugly. > > > > I want the wallpaper to be shown on each screen, so that I have two > > whole pictures, one on each screen. > > Well, you already found the setting, wow. How about testing the other > possibilities at the same place? > In other words: learn playing with settings! Another user mailed me that my problem can only be solved by putting two images together with gimp or another painting-program. Sebastian
Re: KDE 3.1-woody: krec doesn't work
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:41, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Montag, 24. Februar 2003 20:38, Frank Mehnert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > with Ralf's packages for woody my krec seems to not work. Last time > > I tried the utility was with KDE 2.2.2 and it worked well. > > Now, when I start krec, a message "Your system is missing the > > Synth_STERO_COMPRESOR aRts module..." appears and artsd dies. > > No matter if I start artsd with alsa or with oss support. > > > > Any hints? > > Yes. bugs.kde.org, file a bugreport if the problem is not already reported. Right. At least I found no existing bugreport describing my problem. Before adding a bugreport, I wanted to ask the list because I could be something wrong with the debian packages: The strange thing is that artsd dies immediately after krec was started and (IMHO) therefore krec prints the message about the missing compressor module. If I start artsd with loglevel 0 (debugging, I see the following output): AudioSubSystem::adjustDuplexBuffers(1) UnixManager: got notifyIO socketconnection created, fd = 10 findPort(left) have 2 ports done result 74 connect port left to inleft findPort(right) have 2 ports done result 74 connect port right to inright Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _releasefactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 (T he previous message was repeated 1 times.) Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _releasefactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _releasefactor = 0.00157176 Segmentation fault GDB running artsd says: Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _releasefactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 (The previous message was repeated 1 times.) Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _releasefactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _attackfactor = 0.00157176 Synth_COMPRESSOR_impl: _releasefactor = 0.00157176 (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 1024 (LWP 16225)] 0x4099368a in free () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 > I need to know where this arts module should be in to either move it to the > right package or make krec depend on it. What happens if you install all of > kdemultimedia ? The same. I don' think that the compressor module is missing but that it cannot be found by krec since artsd dies. I wonder if _anyone_ has success in using krec with your (Ralfs) debs under Woody? Everything else other than krec works very well for me. Frank -- ## Dept. of Computer Science, Dresden University of Technology, Germany ## ## E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/~fm3 ## pgp42kCXBmzuF.pgp Description: signature
kde 3.1 menu with 'no text available', gimp very slow
Hi, I updated woody stable with kde 3.1 from the 'kde.org mirror'. Before doing so I removed the old packages, as described at: http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde/README In two aplications (kmail, korganizer) I find in the main-menu several entries with 'no text available' or 'kein text vorhanden' as I use the german location package. Furthermore some entries in the sub-menu are doubled or missing! Additionaly 'the gimp' starts very slow, takes up to 60 seconds to launch. Before the update it didn't take more than 5 seconds. So far, everything else works fine for me. Any suggestions and hints are welcome, Harm
