Re: KDE 3.1.1 on Woody - it's effects on other installs...

2003-04-06 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sunday 06 April 2003 02:51, Penn Gwynne wrote:
> On Saturday 05 April 2003 14:02, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> > On Saturday 05 April 2003 18:03, Penn Gwynne wrote:
> > > I am fairly (re)new to Debian.  I had Potato in its early days, but
> > > played with Gentoo then Redhat 8 to get a feel for other distros.
> > >
> > > Ultimately I reinstalled Debian a couple of weeks ago from the 3.0r1
> > > CDs and of course got KDE 2.2.  I want to use KDE specifically, but
> > > KMail from KDE 2.2 would not work with my ISP which requires a password
> > > for SMTP.
> >
> > Guys, you probably don't know it but there's even more :-)
> >
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde woody main
> >
> > http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde/README
> >
> > Try that one instead. That's where I'll put updates on compared to the
> > debs on the ftp servers.
> >
> > Ralf
>
> Ralf,
>
> Thanks, that did the trick.  KOffice is now installed.  About the only
> thing left to figure out is how to restore the proper taskbar icons.

If you want the old hicolor icon theme you need to install kdeartwork.

Ralf
>
> /Pen

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 on Woody - it's effects on other installs...

2003-04-05 Thread Penn Gwynne

On Saturday 05 April 2003 14:02, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> On Saturday 05 April 2003 18:03, Penn Gwynne wrote:
> > I am fairly (re)new to Debian.  I had Potato in its early days, but
> > played with Gentoo then Redhat 8 to get a feel for other distros.
> >
> > Ultimately I reinstalled Debian a couple of weeks ago from the 3.0r1 CDs
> > and of course got KDE 2.2.  I want to use KDE specifically, but KMail
> > from KDE 2.2 would not work with my ISP which requires a password for
> > SMTP.
>
> Guys, you probably don't know it but there's even more :-)
>
> deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde woody main
>
> http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde/README
>
> Try that one instead. That's where I'll put updates on compared to the debs
> on the ftp servers.
>
> Ralf
>

Ralf,

Thanks, that did the trick.  KOffice is now installed.  About the only thing 
left to figure out is how to restore the proper taskbar icons.

/Pen




Re: KDE 3.1.1 on Woody - it's effects on other installs...

2003-04-05 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Saturday 05 April 2003 18:03, Penn Gwynne wrote:
> I am fairly (re)new to Debian.  I had Potato in its early days, but played
> with Gentoo then Redhat 8 to get a feel for other distros.
>
> Ultimately I reinstalled Debian a couple of weeks ago from the 3.0r1 CDs
> and of course got KDE 2.2.  I want to use KDE specifically, but KMail from
> KDE 2.2 would not work with my ISP which requires a password for SMTP.

Guys, you probably don't know it but there's even more :-)

deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde woody main

http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde/README

Try that one instead. That's where I'll put updates on compared to the debs on 
the ftp servers.

Ralf
>
> After scanning a couple of threads in debian-user I got brave and went to
> www.kde.org where I added "deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian
> stable main" to my sources.list.  Took me a bit to figure out how to
> actually get KDE 3.1.1.  (Didn't realize it was "apt-get install kdm" and
> not "apt-get upgrade".)  So now I have KDE 3.1.1 and love it and this mail
> is being typed by KMail.
>
> I see problems though.  I tried to install koffice and get errors.  Here is
> an extract of the terminal spew.
>
>   koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
>Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed
>
> Later I tried to install xmmsarts and got the same sort of thing:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   xmmsarts: Depends: libarts-alsa (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be
>   installed or libarts (>= 4:2.2.2-1)
>
> I assume all of this is because my system is now in sort of a "split" mode;
> stock Woody except for KDE.
>
> Any advice on how to resolve this?  Do I need to upgrade to Sarge or (ugh)
> Sid?  Or is it primarily my newness to apt-get and how to force an install
> of a particular version of a package.
>
> Thanks,
> /Pen

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Re: KDE 3.1.1 on Woody - it's effects on other installs...

2003-04-05 Thread Penn Gwynne
On Saturday 05 April 2003 11:29, Greg Madden wrote:
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> On Saturday 05 April 2003 07:03 am, Penn Gwynne wrote:
> > I am fairly (re)new to Debian.  I had Potato in its early days, but
> > played with Gentoo then Redhat 8 to get a feel for other distros.
> >
> > Ultimately I reinstalled Debian a couple of weeks ago from the 3.0r1 CDs
> > and of course got KDE 2.2.  I want to use KDE specifically, but KMail
> > from KDE 2.2 would not work with my ISP which requires a password for
> > SMTP.
> >
> > After scanning a couple of threads in debian-user I got brave and went to
> > www.kde.org where I added "deb
> > http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main" to my
> > sources.list.  Took me a bit to figure out how to actually get KDE 3.1.1.
> >  (Didn't realize it was "apt-get install kdm" and not "apt-get upgrade".)
> >  So now I have KDE 3.1.1 and love it and this mail is being typed by
> > KMail.
> >
> > I see problems though.  I tried to install koffice and get errors.  Here
> > is an extract of the terminal spew.
> >
> >   koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
> >Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed
> >
> > Later I tried to install xmmsarts and got the same sort of thing:
> >
> > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >   xmmsarts: Depends: libarts-alsa (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to
> > be installed or libarts (>= 4:2.2.2-1)
> >
> > I assume all of this is because my system is now in sort of a "split"
> > mode; stock Woody except for KDE.
> >
> > Any advice on how to resolve this?  Do I need to upgrade to Sarge or
> > (ugh) Sid?  Or is it primarily my newness to apt-get and how to force an
> > install of a particular version of a package.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > /Pen
>
> I use an additional source for koffice. I find it helpful to use dselect or
> aptitude to help resolve depends.
> deb http://download.kde.org/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody ./
>
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Greg,

Thanks for the reply.  Couple of comments/questions.

Tried aptitude, but man page not very helpful, maybe a second read-over will 
help.  Mostly, got no no clue as to what some messages might imply.  I will 
have to try agin.

I added your URI to my sources.list.  Doing the update worked fine, but doing 
"apt-get install koffice" yielded the following message from APT

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
koffice: Depends: kpresenter but it is not going to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

Presumably KPresenter depends on something from woody that really needs to be 
from sarge or sid.  Another post today mentioned that KPresent needed arts.  
I suppose that I could just install what I needed piece meal.  Perhaps I 
should just bite the bullet and go to sarge directly, assuming it is running 
KDE 3.x at the minimum.

/Pen




Re: KDE 3.1.1 on Woody - it's effects on other installs...

2003-04-05 Thread Greg Madden
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On Saturday 05 April 2003 07:03 am, Penn Gwynne wrote:
> I am fairly (re)new to Debian.  I had Potato in its early days, but
> played with Gentoo then Redhat 8 to get a feel for other distros.
>
> Ultimately I reinstalled Debian a couple of weeks ago from the 3.0r1 CDs
> and of course got KDE 2.2.  I want to use KDE specifically, but KMail
> from KDE 2.2 would not work with my ISP which requires a password for
> SMTP.
>
> After scanning a couple of threads in debian-user I got brave and went to
> www.kde.org where I added "deb
> http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main" to my
> sources.list.  Took me a bit to figure out how to actually get KDE 3.1.1.
>  (Didn't realize it was "apt-get install kdm" and not "apt-get upgrade".)
>  So now I have KDE 3.1.1 and love it and this mail is being typed by
> KMail.
>
> I see problems though.  I tried to install koffice and get errors.  Here
> is an extract of the terminal spew.
>
>   koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
>Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed
>
> Later I tried to install xmmsarts and got the same sort of thing:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   xmmsarts: Depends: libarts-alsa (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to
> be installed or libarts (>= 4:2.2.2-1)
>
> I assume all of this is because my system is now in sort of a "split"
> mode; stock Woody except for KDE.
>
> Any advice on how to resolve this?  Do I need to upgrade to Sarge or
> (ugh) Sid?  Or is it primarily my newness to apt-get and how to force an
> install of a particular version of a package.
>
> Thanks,
> /Pen

I use an additional source for koffice. I find it helpful to use dselect or 
aptitude to help resolve depends.
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody ./

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KDE 3.1.1 on Woody - it's effects on other installs...

2003-04-05 Thread Penn Gwynne
I am fairly (re)new to Debian.  I had Potato in its early days, but played 
with Gentoo then Redhat 8 to get a feel for other distros.  

Ultimately I reinstalled Debian a couple of weeks ago from the 3.0r1 CDs and 
of course got KDE 2.2.  I want to use KDE specifically, but KMail from KDE 
2.2 would not work with my ISP which requires a password for SMTP.

After scanning a couple of threads in debian-user I got brave and went to 
www.kde.org where I added "deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian 
stable main" to my sources.list.  Took me a bit to figure out how to actually 
get KDE 3.1.1.  (Didn't realize it was "apt-get install kdm" and not "apt-get 
upgrade".)  So now I have KDE 3.1.1 and love it and this mail is being typed 
by KMail.

I see problems though.  I tried to install koffice and get errors.  Here is an 
extract of the terminal spew.

  koffice: Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: kchart but it is not going to be installed

Later I tried to install xmmsarts and got the same sort of thing:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xmmsarts: Depends: libarts-alsa (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be
  installed or libarts (>= 4:2.2.2-1)

I assume all of this is because my system is now in sort of a "split" mode;  
stock Woody except for KDE.

Any advice on how to resolve this?  Do I need to upgrade to Sarge or (ugh) 
Sid?  Or is it primarily my newness to apt-get and how to force an install of 
a particular version of a package.

Thanks,
/Pen