Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
On Friday 04 April 2003 19:09, David Bishop wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2003 08:17 am, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > Yo! > > > > Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, > > too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please > > forgive me. > > A good place for these is bugs.kde.org, as I know for a fact that the main > KMail developers (Don, Ingo, Marc) don't read this list. You will also > find out that (as you suspected) most of these have been noticed by other > people, so you can 'vote' for your most pressing wishlist item or bugfix > (rather than creating dupe bug reports, which will just be closed). Lazyness on my part, combined with the fact that I really don't like web based bug trackers, and I like the more direct interaction of a mailing list. > > Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message > > in fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) > > I don't really know what you're talking about here. It remembers whatever > font I set it to in the 'Appearance'. Are you sure you mean composer? Well, dunno what in KDE-slang is named how. I mean the window where I compose a mail. The setting of the 'View -> Use fixed font' menu entry should be remembered. For displaying mail, I can set fixed font to be used by default just fine. And when I check the 'Use fixed font' in the composer, it shows fixed with or without using custom fonts. (This one is probably workaround-able by defining the proportional font the same as the fixed font. > > A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text > > is shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small > > kde app for taking them?) at > > http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using > > custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE config). > > Well, you would need to have custom fonts to make composer use a fixed font > (iirc). But this seems much more like a X server/font issue than KMail. This one is mail display, not composer. The above was composer. > > > Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? > > Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I > > delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using > > IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its > > time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making > > kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a > > message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). > > No, it doesn't. I tend to use a click/shift-click to select a bunch of > messages, then delete them all at once. IMAP is one of the places that > KMail has lagged, but it is also one of the places that it has gotten > better by leaps and bounds with each release. Then I'll be looking forward how this develops. > > Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't > > display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist > > (that's not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask > > for this MIME type again check box when launching an application to view > > an attachment. > > I get inline display of jpegs. Maybe it uses kview? Sorry, don't know. A > 'don't ask again' has been implemented in HEAD, iirc. I was confused by the fact that kmail launches an external viewer for non-inlined jpegs instead of using the internal viewer. 'real' inlined jpegs (content-disposition: inline) display just fine. > > Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the > > source view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view > > and back could be easy with a single key stroke. > > If you do a lot of keyboard reading, you can bind 'view source' to a key, > and just use alt-f4 when done. Not what you were asking for, but better > than a lot of mousing. Problem is the window focus jumping around because I like focus under mouse. (Oh, yes, windowmanager question: is there a 'new window has focus, regardless of mouse position' function in KDE?) > > kmail <-> kaddressbook integration: > > [ ] this person prefers HTML mail > > [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail > > [ ] don't sign mail to this person > > (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for > > this person, but that's probably too fiddly). > > This is at least partially implemented. I recall being able to set 'always > encrypt to this recipient', the last time I tried. HTML and 'don't sign' > are not. Hmm. didn't find it, will look harder. But since I sign by default, it'd be the 'not sign' function I'd really use. Thanks everybody & don't worry, I won't be ignoring bugs.kde.org forever. -- vbi -- There are 3 types of guys -- the ones who hate nerds (all nerds, that is; girls aren't let off the hook); the ones wh
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
On Friday 04 April 2003 18:39, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2003 17:17, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > Yo! > > > > Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, > > too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please > > forgive me. > > Wrong mailinglist :-) Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) I try to avoid posting to mailing lists I don't read, usually. cheers -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg pgpstT3g08aKM.pgp Description: signature
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
> On Friday 04 April 2003 17:17, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder > > A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted > > text is shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot > > (what's a small kde app for taking them?) ksnapshot Cheers -- /* My name is Jehovah. I have a special plan to save the universe, but because of heavenly security reasons I can't tell you what that plan is. Your's just going to put your faith in me, because I see the picture and you don't. You know I'm good, because I told you so. If you don't believe me, I'll throw you on my enemies list and throw you in a pit where Infernal Revenue Service will audit your taxes for eternity*/ --RMS Aryan Ameri
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 04 Apr 2003 16:17, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Screenshot (what's a small kde app for taking them?) [snip, snip] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search screenshot | grep ^k ksnapshot - Screenshot application for KDE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show ksnapshot Package: ksnapshot Priority: optional Section: graphics Installed-Size: 272 Maintainer: Christopher L Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: kdegraphics Version: 4:3.1.1-1 Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.1.1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.8), libc6 (>= 2.3.1-1), lib fam0c102, libgcc1 (>= 1:3.2.3-0pre5), libpng12-0, libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.1.1), li bstdc++5 (>= 1:3.2.3-0pre5), xlibs (>> 4.1.0), xlibs (>> 4.2.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1. 1.4) Suggests: khelpcenter Filename: pool/main/k/kdegraphics/ksnapshot_3.1.1-1_i386.deb Size: 75944 MD5sum: 6063013b5e384a0d133b8365f2e59e83 Description: Screenshot application for KDE KSnapshot is a simple applet for taking screenshots. It is capable of capturing images of either the whole desktop or just a single window. The images can then be saved in a variety of formats. . This package is part of the official KDE graphics module. Task: desktop Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+jcKVIzuKV+SHX/kRAtTcAJ9GtMdYbWgmdhM3dkHlC4GzygSBZwCeLJvU 3AfUH7mYo6sUh6QGnB8YTwg= =HuYk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
On Friday 04 April 2003 08:17 am, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > Yo! > > Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, > too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please forgive > me. A good place for these is bugs.kde.org, as I know for a fact that the main KMail developers (Don, Ingo, Marc) don't read this list. You will also find out that (as you suspected) most of these have been noticed by other people, so you can 'vote' for your most pressing wishlist item or bugfix (rather than creating dupe bug reports, which will just be closed). > Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message in > fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) I don't really know what you're talking about here. It remembers whatever font I set it to in the 'Appearance'. Are you sure you mean composer? > A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text is > shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small kde > app for taking them?) at http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png > (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE > config). Well, you would need to have custom fonts to make composer use a fixed font (iirc). But this seems much more like a X server/font issue than KMail. > Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? > Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I > delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using > IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its > time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making > kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a > message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). No, it doesn't. I tend to use a click/shift-click to select a bunch of messages, then delete them all at once. IMAP is one of the places that KMail has lagged, but it is also one of the places that it has gotten better by leaps and bounds with each release. > Wishlist feature: newsreader-like 'ignore thread' functionality. I'm confident there is such a wishlist feature. Find it and vote. I can tell you from experience that the KDE devs pay attention to that list, as client side imap filtering is being (has been?) implemented for 3.2 by Don soley based on that. > Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't > display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist (that's > not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask for this > MIME type again check box when launching an application to view an > attachment. I get inline display of jpegs. Maybe it uses kview? Sorry, don't know. A 'don't ask again' has been implemented in HEAD, iirc. > Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the source > view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view and back > could be easy with a single key stroke. If you do a lot of keyboard reading, you can bind 'view source' to a key, and just use alt-f4 when done. Not what you were asking for, but better than a lot of mousing. > Evo remembers sort order and the displayed columns in the header view (and > their width and order) on a per folder basis. One thing I'm really gonna > miss. Wishlist. > kmail <-> kaddressbook integration: > [ ] this person prefers HTML mail > [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail > [ ] don't sign mail to this person > (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for > this person, but that's probably too fiddly). This is at least partially implemented. I recall being able to set 'always encrypt to this recipient', the last time I tried. HTML and 'don't sign' are not. HTH and HAND. -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 04 April 2003 17:17, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > Yo! > > Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, > too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please forgive > me. Wrong mailinglist :-) Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Ralf > > Several things have made me switch from gnome to KDE, so I've installed > various things and am now relatively happy. For one thing, konqueror > appears much faster than galeon, so that alone is something... > > I was using evolution unitl now, and have now switched to kmail, here my > first comments: (Oh, yes: kmail 1.5.1, with the PGP/MIME plugin (but you > saw that) - thanks to Ralf for providing the debs, the woody debs run just > fine on my mixed sarge/sid system). > > Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message in > fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) > > A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text is > shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small kde > app for taking them?) at http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png > (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE > config). > > Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? > Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I > delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using > IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its > time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making > kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a > message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). > > Wishlist feature: newsreader-like 'ignore thread' functionality. > > Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't > display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist (that's > not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask for this > MIME type again check box when launching an application to view an > attachment. > > Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the source > view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view and back > could be easy with a single key stroke. > > Evo remembers sort order and the displayed columns in the header view (and > their width and order) on a per folder basis. One thing I'm really gonna > miss. > > kmail <-> kaddressbook integration: > [ ] this person prefers HTML mail > [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail > [ ] don't sign mail to this person > (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for > this person, but that's probably too fiddly). > > What I like: the configurable keyboard shortcuts, the good GPG > integration, the good handling of the spacebar. - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+jbVOu0nKi+w1Ky8RAkY9AJ9ss6aaI22NqmxUlNpfG9bMDm5J0gCeP36i 6Se18SSWaqn6Uk3yr1Js948= =nQiY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Kmail (review and feature wishes)
Yo! Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please forgive me. Several things have made me switch from gnome to KDE, so I've installed various things and am now relatively happy. For one thing, konqueror appears much faster than galeon, so that alone is something... I was using evolution unitl now, and have now switched to kmail, here my first comments: (Oh, yes: kmail 1.5.1, with the PGP/MIME plugin (but you saw that) - thanks to Ralf for providing the debs, the woody debs run just fine on my mixed sarge/sid system). Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message in fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text is shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small kde app for taking them?) at http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE config). Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). Wishlist feature: newsreader-like 'ignore thread' functionality. Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist (that's not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask for this MIME type again check box when launching an application to view an attachment. Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the source view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view and back could be easy with a single key stroke. Evo remembers sort order and the displayed columns in the header view (and their width and order) on a per folder basis. One thing I'm really gonna miss. kmail <-> kaddressbook integration: [ ] this person prefers HTML mail [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail [ ] don't sign mail to this person (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for this person, but that's probably too fiddly). What I like: the configurable keyboard shortcuts, the good GPG integration, the good handling of the spacebar. -- get my gpg key here: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/92082481 pgpOgDJerOdtK.pgp Description: signature
