Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-29 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 28 July 2002 11:06 pm, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 06:33:09PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > So what are the known working versions of GCC for compiling KDE3 with?
> >
> > I am looking to try my hand at building a Pentium-optimised box from
> > scratch. lfs uses GCC2.95.5 but Debian provides both GCC2.95.5 and GCC3?
> >
> > I've also looked into PGCC, but the latest patches they have are for
> > GCC2.95.3 and the site seems to be un-maintained.
>
> It is known to work on 2.95.4 and 3.0.x since those are the versions in
> Debian already.  It will probably work with 3.1/3.2 but I am not
> certain.
>

This is what is puzzling me, if kde 3 can be compiled and works well with 
GCC2.95 why haven't the debs for kde compiled with that compiler been put 
into sid.  Why is it necessary to wait for a GCC3.x compiler that works - why 
not re-release the debs with a slightly later version number when that time 
comes?

I've been reading this list for a while, but if there was an explanation 
somewhere I must have missed it, sorry.

I know I can get the stuff from elsewhere, but to keep these weird lines in 
/etc/apt/sources.list seems a little "unofficial".



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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-28 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 06:33:09PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> So what are the known working versions of GCC for compiling KDE3 with?
> 
> I am looking to try my hand at building a Pentium-optimised box from scratch. 
> lfs uses GCC2.95.5 but Debian provides both GCC2.95.5 and GCC3?
> 
> I've also looked into PGCC, but the latest patches they have are for 
> GCC2.95.3 and the site seems to be un-maintained.

It is known to work on 2.95.4 and 3.0.x since those are the versions in
Debian already.  It will probably work with 3.1/3.2 but I am not
certain.

Chris


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-27 Thread John Gay
On Tue 23 Jul 2002 14:23, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 July 2002 1:17 pm, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 12:56:15AM +0100, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> > -snip-
> >
> > > I don't understand.  What has gcc 3.0.1 to do with it.  It's not even
> > > in unstable and I have been running it for years now.  In fact, this
> > > one right here is 3.0.2 compiled with
> >
> > The original post was a typo, it was supposed to read 3.1.0, however
> > 3.1.0 was buggy and it appears 3.2 will probably be the one debian
> > switches to. GCC 3.2 should be released today, but I do not know how
> > long it will take to switch to it.
>
> Ah!
>
> Indeed, I first tried getting it going with gcc-3.1 and I had no joy.
> Compiled alright but dcop didn't like it at all!
>
> Maybe I've got more luck with gcc 3.2.  I'll definitively give it a whirl
> ;)

So what are the known working versions of GCC for compiling KDE3 with?

I am looking to try my hand at building a Pentium-optimised box from scratch. 
lfs uses GCC2.95.5 but Debian provides both GCC2.95.5 and GCC3?

I've also looked into PGCC, but the latest patches they have are for 
GCC2.95.3 and the site seems to be un-maintained.

Cheers,

John Gay


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-23 Thread Nicolai P Guba
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 1:17 pm, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 12:56:15AM +0100, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> -snip-
>
> > I don't understand.  What has gcc 3.0.1 to do with it.  It's not even in
> > unstable and I have been running it for years now.  In fact, this one
> > right here is 3.0.2 compiled with
>
> The original post was a typo, it was supposed to read 3.1.0, however
> 3.1.0 was buggy and it appears 3.2 will probably be the one debian
> switches to. GCC 3.2 should be released today, but I do not know how
> long it will take to switch to it.

Ah!

Indeed, I first tried getting it going with gcc-3.1 and I had no joy.  
Compiled alright but dcop didn't like it at all!

Maybe I've got more luck with gcc 3.2.  I'll definitively give it a whirl ;)



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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-23 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 12:56:15AM +0100, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
-snip-
> I don't understand.  What has gcc 3.0.1 to do with it.  It's not even in 
> unstable and I have been running it for years now.  In fact, this one right 
> here is 3.0.2 compiled with 

The original post was a typo, it was supposed to read 3.1.0, however
3.1.0 was buggy and it appears 3.2 will probably be the one debian
switches to. GCC 3.2 should be released today, but I do not know how
long it will take to switch to it.

Chris


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-20 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Paul Cupis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020720 13:51]:
> On Friday 19 July 2002 19:33, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> 
> > Are there any reasons why 3.0.2 is
> > not available?  I notice it comes with handy ./debian directories
> > containing all the build info.
> 
> KDE 3.0.2 debs *are* available. http://calc.cx/kde.txt

I would hope that the bugs that are known allready would get
fixed before upload.


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-20 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 19 July 2002 19:33, Nicolai P Guba wrote:

> Are there any reasons why 3.0.2 is
> not available?  I notice it comes with handy ./debian directories
> containing all the build info.

KDE 3.0.2 debs *are* available. http://calc.cx/kde.txt

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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-20 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 19 July 2002 19:24, Marc Schiffbauer wrote:

> > Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when woody
> > is released.
>
> Is there a real dependency or is it just because other things are very
> time consuming until woody release?

it was a time thing, and not wanting to split efforts when getting Woody 
released was priority. KDE3 should now be in sid in around a weeks time.

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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Malte Cornils
On Saturday, 20. July 2002 01:56, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> On Friday 19 July 2002 7:40 pm, Derek Gladding wrote:
> > On Friday 19 July 2002 11:33 am, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> > > On Friday 19 July 2002 5:52 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > > > On Friday 19 July 2002 17:04, Joseph W. Schlecht wrote:
> > > > > How about another update regarding when we might see KDE3
> > > > > packages go into sid?
> > > >
> > > > Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when
> > > > woody is released.
> > >
> > > Darn.  On this one it's a bit of a 'letdown' from Debian (who
> > > arguably has the best packaging system available).  Are there any
> > > reasons why 3.0.2 is not available?
> >
> > It's in the list archives - iirc, Debian will be changing to gcc 3.0.1
> > after woody, and KDE3 will be entering sid at this point.

Well who cares, the original answer was: "when woody is released" and since 
this just came to be true, it'll be a short wait indeed :-)

In case you didn't notice, you're hereby ordered to celebrate. Yes, that 
means all of you... Have fun!

Yours Malte #8-)

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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Nicolai P Guba
On Friday 19 July 2002 7:40 pm, Derek Gladding wrote:
> On Friday 19 July 2002 11:33 am, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> > On Friday 19 July 2002 5:52 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > > On Friday 19 July 2002 17:04, Joseph W. Schlecht wrote:
> > > > How about another update regarding when we might see KDE3
> > > > packages go into sid?
> > >
> > > Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when
> > > woody is released.
> >
> > Darn.  On this one it's a bit of a 'letdown' from Debian (who
> > arguably has the best packaging system available).  Are there any
> > reasons why 3.0.2 is not available?
>
> It's in the list archives - iirc, Debian will be changing to gcc 3.0.1
> after woody, and KDE3 will be entering sid at this point.

I don't understand.  What has gcc 3.0.1 to do with it.  It's not even in 
unstable and I have been running it for years now.  In fact, this one right 
here is 3.0.2 compiled with 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/specs
gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)

I just don't understand this rationale.  Maybe someone could shed some light 
on this?


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Tom Badran
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On Friday 19 Jul 2002 7:40 pm, Derek Gladding wrote:
> It's in the list archives - iirc, Debian will be changing to gcc 3.0.1
> after woody, and KDE3 will be entering sid at this point.

Do you not mean 3.1? 3.0.1 wont even compile KDE if i remember correctly (and 
it was a very crappy release anyway, most of the 3.0 series were).

Tom

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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Paul Cupis schrieb am 19.07.02 um 18:52 Uhr:
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> On Friday 19 July 2002 17:04, Joseph W. Schlecht wrote:
> > How about another update regarding when we might see KDE3 packages go
> > into sid?
> 
> Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when woody is 
> released.
> 

Is there a real dependency or is it just because other things are very
time consuming until woody release?

-Marc

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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Derek Gladding
On Friday 19 July 2002 11:33 am, Nicolai P Guba wrote:
> On Friday 19 July 2002 5:52 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > On Friday 19 July 2002 17:04, Joseph W. Schlecht wrote:
> > > How about another update regarding when we might see KDE3
> > > packages go into sid?
> >
> > Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when
> > woody is released.
>
> Darn.  On this one it's a bit of a 'letdown' from Debian (who
> arguably has the best packaging system available).  Are there any
> reasons why 3.0.2 is not available?  

It's in the list archives - iirc, Debian will be changing to gcc 3.0.1 
after woody, and KDE3 will be entering sid at this point.

KDE3 .debs that will upgrade from 2.2 are available online - details 
were posted to the list quite recently, should be easy to find in the 
archives.

- Derek

> I notice it comes with handy
> ./debian directories containing all the build info.


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Nicolai P Guba
On Friday 19 July 2002 5:52 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
> On Friday 19 July 2002 17:04, Joseph W. Schlecht wrote:
> > How about another update regarding when we might see KDE3 packages go
> > into sid?
>
> Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when woody
> is released.

Darn.  On this one it's a bit of a 'letdown' from Debian (who arguably has the 
best packaging system available).  Are there any reasons why 3.0.2 is not 
available?  I notice it comes with handy ./debian directories containing all 
the build info.


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Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-19 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Friday 19 July 2002 17:04, Joseph W. Schlecht wrote:
> How about another update regarding when we might see KDE3 packages go
> into sid?

Quoting the current topic for #debian-kde, it will go into sid when woody is 
released.

Paul Cupis
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