Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-06 Thread Enzo Cappa
It would be complicated, because no all player are based on KDE. MPlayer,
for example, it's text based originally, and has a GUI based in GTK. I don't
think that the developers of mplayer are interested in implementing a
command line option to register as a kde default player. So the best option
is still that you select your preffered player.
Maybe the best option is think in a better way to select the prefered
player, or ask to the developers of debian to select a better default player
in the distribution.
Another important thing is that noatun isn't used anymore in kde 4, wait
some time and maybe you will have a better default player.

2009/2/6 santilin 

> I think you are right. So, the improvement would be something like
> re-registering the file associations for players. For example, if I run:
>
> vlc --register-with-kde
> mplayer --register-with-kde
> noatun --register-with-kde
>
> it would register and place on top all the file associations it knows
> about.
>
> What do you think? Does is worth sending it to bugs.kde.org
>
> Regards
> -- santilin
>
>
>
> Enzo Cappa wrote:
>
>> I don think that's a bug. If you have a preferred player, it wouldn't be
>> nice that anytime that you install another, it changes.
>> There are many players in GNU/Linux, and many of them are based on KDE. I
>> have around 4 installed, and I use it in different situations. I'm sure that
>> Noatun isn't the better one, but it's the default for the KDE package, maybe
>> because for most people is enough.
>> Anyway, you can ask the developers of KDE for that improvement if you
>> think it would be a good thing, in https://bugs.kde.org .
>>
>> PD: Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker.
>>
>> 2009/2/4 > sa...@kernelpanic.hacklabs.org>>
>>
>>    > 2009/2/4 Christoph Burgmer
>>><mailto:christoph.burg...@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
>>>> > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which
>>depends
>>>> on
>>>> noatun (if I am not mistaken).
>>>> If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go
>>through the
>>>> single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis
>>which ones
>>>> you
>>>> need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I
>>>> guess?
>>>> is your problem.
>>>> Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is
>>not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christoph
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think is easier. Right click on the file, and select the item
>>> "Properties". The you will see a description of the file, and a
>>icon with
>>> a
>>> tool, click on it. There you will see a list of the preferred
>>application
>>> for that kind of files.  Also you can select a application for
>>open  a
>>> file
>>> one time only in the item "Open with"
>>>
>>> Enzo
>>>
>>
>>I wonder why vlc or kaffine are not put on top of file
>>associations after
>>installing them.
>>
>>After making a fresh install of debian/kde, noatun is the default
>>player.
>>Then, I install vlc and kaffeine and amarok. Why are them not put
>>at the
>>top of the file associations? Is this a feature or a bug?
>>
>>--santilin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-06 Thread santilin

I think you are right. So, the improvement would be something like
re-registering the file associations for players. For example, if I run:

vlc --register-with-kde
mplayer --register-with-kde
noatun --register-with-kde

it would register and place on top all the file associations it knows about.

What do you think? Does is worth sending it to bugs.kde.org

Regards
-- santilin



Enzo Cappa wrote:
I don think that's a bug. If you have a preferred player, it wouldn't 
be nice that anytime that you install another, it changes.
There are many players in GNU/Linux, and many of them are based on 
KDE. I have around 4 installed, and I use it in different situations. 
I'm sure that Noatun isn't the better one, but it's the default for 
the KDE package, maybe because for most people is enough.
Anyway, you can ask the developers of KDE for that improvement if you 
think it would be a good thing, in https://bugs.kde.org .


PD: Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker.

2009/2/4 <mailto:sa...@kernelpanic.hacklabs.org>>


> 2009/2/4 Christoph Burgmer
mailto:christoph.burg...@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de>>
>
>> Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
>> > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
>>
>>
>> kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which
depends
>> on
>> noatun (if I am not mistaken).
>> If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go
through the
>> single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis
which ones
>> you
>> need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I
>> guess?
>> is your problem.
>> Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is
not.
>>
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>
> I think is easier. Right click on the file, and select the item
> "Properties". The you will see a description of the file, and a
icon with
> a
> tool, click on it. There you will see a list of the preferred
application
> for that kind of files.  Also you can select a application for
open  a
> file
> one time only in the item "Open with"
>
> Enzo
>

I wonder why vlc or kaffine are not put on top of file
associations after
installing them.

After making a fresh install of debian/kde, noatun is the default
player.
Then, I install vlc and kaffeine and amarok. Why are them not put
at the
top of the file associations? Is this a feature or a bug?

--santilin










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Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-05 Thread Enzo Cappa
I don think that's a bug. If you have a preferred player, it wouldn't be
nice that anytime that you install another, it changes.
There are many players in GNU/Linux, and many of them are based on KDE. I
have around 4 installed, and I use it in different situations. I'm sure that
Noatun isn't the better one, but it's the default for the KDE package, maybe
because for most people is enough.
Anyway, you can ask the developers of KDE for that improvement if you think
it would be a good thing, in https://bugs.kde.org .

PD: Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker.

2009/2/4 

> > 2009/2/4 Christoph Burgmer 
> >
> >> Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> >> > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
> >>
> >>
> >> kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends
> >> on
> >> noatun (if I am not mistaken).
> >> If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through the
> >> single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis which ones
> >> you
> >> need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I
> >> guess?
> >> is your problem.
> >> Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.
> >>
> >>
> >> Christoph
> >>
> >
> > I think is easier. Right click on the file, and select the item
> > "Properties". The you will see a description of the file, and a icon with
> > a
> > tool, click on it. There you will see a list of the preferred application
> > for that kind of files.  Also you can select a application for open  a
> > file
> > one time only in the item "Open with"
> >
> > Enzo
> >
>
> I wonder why vlc or kaffine are not put on top of file associations after
> installing them.
>
> After making a fresh install of debian/kde, noatun is the default player.
> Then, I install vlc and kaffeine and amarok. Why are them not put at the
> top of the file associations? Is this a feature or a bug?
>
> --santilin
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2009 schrieb Enzo Cappa:
> 2009/2/4 Christoph Burgmer 
>
> > Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> > > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
> >
> > kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends on
> > noatun (if I am not mistaken).
> > If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through the
> > single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis which ones
> > you need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I
> > guess? is your problem.
> > Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.
> >
> >
> > Christoph
>
> I think is easier. Right click on the file, and select the item
> "Properties". The you will see a description of the file, and a icon with a
> tool, click on it. There you will see a list of the preferred application
> for that kind of files.  Also you can select a application for open  a file
> one time only in the item "Open with"



From what I see this does not change the default application. Especially with 
media files one wants to have many players around in case some weired format 
comes up. But then you have realplayer even doing your .wav files, totally 
messing up the integrated KDE experience.



Btw. this is application preference is one reason why I use Konqueror. 
Firefox/Iceweasel still presents me with some weired Gnome apps only.



Christoph


Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread santi
> 2009/2/4 Christoph Burgmer 
>
>> Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
>> > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
>>
>>
>> kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends
>> on
>> noatun (if I am not mistaken).
>> If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through the
>> single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis which ones
>> you
>> need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I
>> guess?
>> is your problem.
>> Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.
>>
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>
> I think is easier. Right click on the file, and select the item
> "Properties". The you will see a description of the file, and a icon with
> a
> tool, click on it. There you will see a list of the preferred application
> for that kind of files.  Also you can select a application for open  a
> file
> one time only in the item "Open with"
>
> Enzo
>

I wonder why vlc or kaffine are not put on top of file associations after
installing them.

After making a fresh install of debian/kde, noatun is the default player.
Then, I install vlc and kaffeine and amarok. Why are them not put at the
top of the file associations? Is this a feature or a bug?

--santilin






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Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread Enzo Cappa
2009/2/4 Christoph Burgmer 

> Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
>
>
> kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends on
> noatun (if I am not mistaken).
> If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through the
> single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis which ones you
> need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I guess?
> is your problem.
> Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.
>
>
> Christoph
>

I think is easier. Right click on the file, and select the item
"Properties". The you will see a description of the file, and a icon with a
tool, click on it. There you will see a list of the preferred application
for that kind of files.  Also you can select a application for open  a file
one time only in the item "Open with"

Enzo


Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> Christoph Burgmer wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> > > Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?
> >
> > kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends
> > on noatun (if I am not mistaken).
> > If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through
> > the single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis
> > which ones you need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the
> > rest, which I guess? is your problem.
> > Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.
>
> Yes, I want to keep all the rest of KDE.
>
> Maybe I could do it easier if I could easily change file assocciations
> in Konqueror to change noatun to amarok or kaffeine as needed, but I
> don't know how to do this without having to go through all of the
> different file types.

Ah, interesting how that meets... KDE does a poor job with file association. 
While you left click to open the file, and you could correct the program 
forever using the context menu, instead you need to open the control menu and 
do a difficult search. I tend to remove unusable players like noatun instead of 
spending too much time on resetting all those associations.

You could create a feature request for KDE 4.3, you have my vote.

Christoph


Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread santilin

Christoph Burgmer wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?


kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends 
on noatun (if I am not mistaken).
If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through 
the single packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis 
which ones you need, then you can remove kde without loosing all the 
rest, which I guess? is your problem.

Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.

Yes, I want to keep all the rest of KDE.

Maybe I could do it easier if I could easily change file assocciations 
in Konqueror to change noatun to amarok or kaffeine as needed, but I 
don't know how to do this without having to go through all of the 
different file types.


--santilin






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Re: Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 schrieb santilin:
> Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?

kde depends on kdeaddons which depends on noatun-plugins which depends on 
noatun (if I am not mistaken).
If you installed the kde metapackage I guess you need to go through the single 
packages it pulls in and decide on a per-package basis which ones you need, 
then you can remove kde without loosing all the rest, which I guess? is your 
problem.
Or, in simple terms: "aptitude remove noatun" as admin if it is not.

Christoph


Uninstall noatun

2009-02-04 Thread santilin

Hi, how can I uninstall noatun in debian 4.0, kde 3.5?


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