Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-26 Thread Dietz Proepper
Chris Cheney:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:03:01PM +0100, Dietz Proepper wrote:
> > This is strange. I can see kwifimanager, but it's broken, anyway. The
> > reason seems to be that first kwifimanager depends on some old libiw,
> > which means it won't compile withot modification. The second reason
> > semms to be that kdenetwork-3.2.0/debian/kwifimanager.install contains
> > only the documentation...
>
> Yes, kwifimanager in 3.2 and BRANCH was broken the last time I compiled
> the debs. It does use the current libiw api. I went ahead and included

Hmm, is 26 current or 27?

> the deb anyway since it needed an override that usually takes an extra
> week. Hopefully kwifimanager will be fixed in time for the 3.2.1
> release.

Bringing it to compile againt the current libiw in unstable requires a 
minimal fix. If you're interested, I can make a patch from my changes 
(plz. include your preferred patch format;).

Dietz




Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-25 Thread Joan Roig Amorós
Thanks a lot for everybody's answers!

I will wait for the KWifimanager and X modules to appear in the Control Center 
of 3.2 after some new update. Meanwhile I found the new XF86Config-4 where 
David suggested, and, voila! 96 dpi again.

Joan

(BTW why changing the DisplaySize option is better than forcing a dpi 
value ? ; also, To which section of XF86Config-4 do I add the line?) 




Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 25. Februar 2004 02:42 schrieb Doug Holland:
> Definitely follow David Bishop's advice concerning adding -dpi 100
> to /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers.  That'll help deal with dreaded tiny
> font disease.  Also go into Appearance & Themes -> Fonts and play with the
> fonts until you find them readable.

Hmm, no. For TFT displays, this is totally incorrect. use the DisplaySize 
option in /etc/XF86Config-4 instead.
To force 100dpi with the -dpi parameter was all wrong in the first place (it 
did override the DisplaySize option).
Additionally: why is the configuration file in /usr/share/config? It is _not_ 
supposed to be there!

HS

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Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-25 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
El MiÃrcoles, 25 de Febrero de 2004 01:42, Doug Holland escribiÃ:
> Definitely follow David Bishop's advice concerning adding -dpi 100
> to /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers.  That'll help deal with dreaded tiny
> font disease.  Also go into Appearance & Themes -> Fonts and play with the
> fonts until you find them readable.

I prefer David's solution rather than playing with kcontrol fonts, because 
last one leaves gtk apps with tiiny fonts ;)

Thanks David!!

Rafael RodrÃguez
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Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-24 Thread Doug Holland
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig AmorÃs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I upgraded from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.1.2 in Sid as instructed on the Wiki. It
> has been quite easy and most of the things work great (THANKS to everybody
> that made that possible!  3.2 is really great). I noticed  a few issues:
>
> -If you have set Kdm to load Session Type-Last (like I think most people
> do), it will not start KDE until you point it specifically to KDE .
>
> - X resolution changed (from 96 to 75dpi) . I have XFree 4.3.0.
> and /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers has not changed (-dpi 96).
>
> - Control center has two "Display" modules (well , not exactly, Kmenu -
> Preferences-Peripherals- does). The  new with Monitor Gamma and Multiple
> Monitors tabs and the old one with K Xconfig (that never worked for me;
> this has not changed). Maybe this has to do with the above point?
>
> - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it! ;-).
>
>
> I hope that helps. I would appreciate a solution specially for X resolution
> change, two more weeks with this resolution and I will need glasses...
>

Hmm.  There's supposed to be a module in the control center that lets you do 
cool X 4.3 stuff like resizing the display.  I don't seem to have it in my 
control panel - maybe it was omitted or Chris & Ben don't think it's ready 
yet.

That leaves plan B - reconfiguring the X server.  Like in Perl, There's More 
Than One Way to do this.  I do it the old fashioned way - 
editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  You can also do dpkg-reconfigure 
xserver-xfree86, or run one of the zillions of X configurator programs out 
there.

Definitely follow David Bishop's advice concerning adding -dpi 100 
to /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers.  That'll help deal with dreaded tiny font 
disease.  Also go into Appearance & Themes -> Fonts and play with the fonts 
until you find them readable.

Doug



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Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-24 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 10:03:01PM +0100, Dietz Proepper wrote:
> David Bishop:
> > On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig Amorós wrote:
> > > - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it!
> > > ;-).
> >
> > An apt-cache search for kwifi brings back nothing.  Where did you get
> 
> This is strange. I can see kwifimanager, but it's broken, anyway. The 
> reason seems to be that first kwifimanager depends on some old libiw, 
> which means it won't compile withot modification. The second reason semms 
> to be that kdenetwork-3.2.0/debian/kwifimanager.install contains only the 
> documentation...

Yes, kwifimanager in 3.2 and BRANCH was broken the last time I compiled
the debs. It does use the current libiw api. I went ahead and included
the deb anyway since it needed an override that usually takes an extra
week. Hopefully kwifimanager will be fixed in time for the 3.2.1 release.

Chris


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Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-24 Thread David Bishop
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 02:03 pm, Dietz Proepper wrote:
> David Bishop:
> > On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig Amorós wrote:
> > > - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it!
> > > ;-).
> >
> > An apt-cache search for kwifi brings back nothing.  Where did you get
>
> This is strange. I can see kwifimanager, but it's broken, anyway. The
> reason seems to be that first kwifimanager depends on some old libiw,
> which means it won't compile withot modification. The second reason semms
> to be that kdenetwork-3.2.0/debian/kwifimanager.install contains only the
> documentation...

Turns out I needed an 'update'.  I can see it now...

-- 
D.A.Bishop




Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-24 Thread Dietz Proepper
David Bishop:
> On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig Amorós wrote:
> > - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it!
> > ;-).
>
> An apt-cache search for kwifi brings back nothing.  Where did you get

This is strange. I can see kwifimanager, but it's broken, anyway. The 
reason seems to be that first kwifimanager depends on some old libiw, 
which means it won't compile withot modification. The second reason semms 
to be that kdenetwork-3.2.0/debian/kwifimanager.install contains only the 
documentation...

Dietz




Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-24 Thread David Bishop
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig Amorós wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I upgraded from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.1.2 in Sid as instructed on the Wiki. It
> has been quite easy and most of the things work great (THANKS to everybody
> that made that possible!  3.2 is really great). I noticed  a few issues:
>
> -If you have set Kdm to load Session Type-Last (like I think most people
> do), it will not start KDE until you point it specifically to KDE .

I've noticed that, too, on two seperate machines.

> - X resolution changed (from 96 to 75dpi) . I have XFree 4.3.0.
> and /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers has not changed (-dpi 96).

The kdm config is now in /usr/share/config/xdm.  The file you want is 
Xservers.  This one stumped me for a good long while, as I need +xinerama 
appended to the vt line, and I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working.

> - Control center has two "Display" modules (well , not exactly, Kmenu -
> Preferences-Peripherals- does). The  new with Monitor Gamma and Multiple
> Monitors tabs and the old one with K Xconfig (that never worked for me;
> this has not changed). Maybe this has to do with the above point?

I see this too, but what above point are you referring to?

> - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it! ;-).

An apt-cache search for kwifi brings back nothing.  Where did you get this 
from?  If you did do a .deb install, run dpkg -L  to see all the 
files that it installed.  I do that and grep for 'bin' all the time...

> I hope that helps. I would appreciate a solution specially for X resolution
> change, two more weeks with this resolution and I will need glasses...

Add -dpi 100 to /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers, and restart.  That should do 
ya!

-- 
D.A.Bishop




Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,

2004-02-24 Thread Joan Roig Amorós
Hi, 

I upgraded from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.1.2 in Sid as instructed on the Wiki. It 
has been quite easy and most of the things work great (THANKS to everybody 
that made that possible!  3.2 is really great). I noticed  a few issues:

-If you have set Kdm to load Session Type-Last (like I think most people do), 
it will not start KDE until you point it specifically to KDE . 

- X resolution changed (from 96 to 75dpi) . I have XFree 4.3.0. 
and /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers has not changed (-dpi 96).

- Control center has two "Display" modules (well , not exactly, Kmenu - 
Preferences-Peripherals- does). The  new with Monitor Gamma and Multiple 
Monitors tabs and the old one with K Xconfig (that never worked for me; this 
has not changed). Maybe this has to do with the above point?

- I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it! ;-).


I hope that helps. I would appreciate a solution specially for X resolution 
change, two more weeks with this resolution and I will need glasses...

  
Thanks, and keep the good work!

JOan