Re: Wrong keyboard after KDE4.2 startup, ok after a while [solved]

2009-05-10 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hi all,

I kinda solved my problem:

> > On Sunday, 2009-04-26, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
(...)
> > > I'm having a bizarre problem here. My system is lenny, with qt 4.4.3, 
> > > X.Org
> > > 1.4.2 and recompiled KDE 4.2.2 from unstable. The kernel is a 
> > > self-compiled
> > > 2.6.28. keyboard layouts are deactivated in kcontrol; activating them
> > > didn't change anything to the better.
> > >
> > > After I start KDE, the keyboard layout for ~the first 2 apps I start is 
> > > US.
> > > Typically I have this in the program starter (lancelot or kickoff), and in
> > > the first iceweasel I start afterwards. For all apps I start then (e.g. if
(...)

I managed to get the kde keyboard layout switcher to work. Before, I had 
problems with it - it was disabling the arrow keys etc. Here, selecting 
"Evdev-managed keyboard" as keyboard type instead of the generic 105 key did 
the trick. Now this gives me a German layout in all apps I start.

A problem remains with lancelot / kickoff, which is apparently started before 
the layout switcher is initialized. Here I chose, as a dirty workaround, to 
kill lancelot via autostart. This means it is restarted the first time I click 
on the K menu.

Meanwhile, I've recompiled hal, xorg and evdev from debian sid; I have however 
not yet tested if this makes the problem disappear as a whole. Anyway, I think 
I won't file a KDE bugreport about this story because I still think that the 
problem here is related to my weird system setup.


Cheers,

Stephan


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Re: Wrong keyboard after KDE4.2 startup, ok after a while

2009-04-28 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hi Kevin,

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:28:21 +0200
Kevin Krammer wrote:

> On Sunday, 2009-04-26, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm having a bizarre problem here. My system is lenny, with qt 4.4.3, X.Org
> > 1.4.2 and recompiled KDE 4.2.2 from unstable. The kernel is a self-compiled
> > 2.6.28. keyboard layouts are deactivated in kcontrol; activating them
> > didn't change anything to the better.
> >
> > After I start KDE, the keyboard layout for ~the first 2 apps I start is US.
> > Typically I have this in the program starter (lancelot or kickoff), and in
> > the first iceweasel I start afterwards. For all apps I start then (e.g. if
> > I kill lancelot and then press the K menu) it's perfectly ok. If I only
> > start an xterm instead of kde, and then iceweasel, there seems to be no
> > problem at all (i.e. I have German layout).
> 
> I had a keyboard layout problem last sunday when updating my SID box.
> Turned out I had Xorg updated but hadn't updated the respective HAL version 
> yet.

I tried the new input driver (evdev)... then, at first, I also didn't have 
German layout at all. After adding a policy file to the HAL tree with the 
specifications needed, HAL had the correct attributes for my keyboard. And X 
gets it too, but not for the first two apps started in kde. I might try 
updating HAL, but I think the problem is maybe rather specific for the 
combination of my X version with KDE 4.2.2 (and perhaps the qt version). Really 
no one else seems to experience this ... strange. On the other hand, nobody 
else has a system setup as weird as me ;),


Cheers,

Stephan


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Re: Wrong keyboard after KDE4.2 startup, ok after a while

2009-04-28 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hi Kevin,

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:28:21 +0200
Kevin Krammer wrote:

> On Sunday, 2009-04-26, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm having a bizarre problem here. My system is lenny, with qt 4.4.3, X.Org
> > 1.4.2 and recompiled KDE 4.2.2 from unstable. The kernel is a self-compiled
> > 2.6.28. keyboard layouts are deactivated in kcontrol; activating them
> > didn't change anything to the better.
> >
> > After I start KDE, the keyboard layout for ~the first 2 apps I start is US.
> > Typically I have this in the program starter (lancelot or kickoff), and in
> > the first iceweasel I start afterwards. For all apps I start then (e.g. if
> > I kill lancelot and then press the K menu) it's perfectly ok. If I only
> > start an xterm instead of kde, and then iceweasel, there seems to be no
> > problem at all (i.e. I have German layout).
> 
> I had a keyboard layout problem last sunday when updating my SID box.
> Turned out I had Xorg updated but hadn't updated the respective HAL version 
> yet.

I tried the new input driver (evdev)... then, at first, I also didn't have 
German layout at all. After adding a policy file to the HAL tree with the 
specifications needed, HAL had the correct attributes for my keyboard. And X 
gets it too, but not for the first two apps started in kde. I might try 
updating HAL, but I think the problem is maybe rather specific for the 
combination of my X version with KDE 4.2.2 (and perhaps the qt version). Really 
no one else seems to experience this ... strange. On the other hand, nobody 
else has a system setup as weird as me ;),


Cheers,

Stephan


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Re: Wrong keyboard after KDE4.2 startup, ok after a while

2009-04-26 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2009-04-26, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having a bizarre problem here. My system is lenny, with qt 4.4.3, X.Org
> 1.4.2 and recompiled KDE 4.2.2 from unstable. The kernel is a self-compiled
> 2.6.28. keyboard layouts are deactivated in kcontrol; activating them
> didn't change anything to the better.
>
> After I start KDE, the keyboard layout for ~the first 2 apps I start is US.
> Typically I have this in the program starter (lancelot or kickoff), and in
> the first iceweasel I start afterwards. For all apps I start then (e.g. if
> I kill lancelot and then press the K menu) it's perfectly ok. If I only
> start an xterm instead of kde, and then iceweasel, there seems to be no
> problem at all (i.e. I have German layout).

I had a keyboard layout problem last sunday when updating my SID box.
Turned out I had Xorg updated but hadn't updated the respective HAL version 
yet.

Since it now handles the input device settings, it asks for the layout and 
variant settings.

Cheers,
Kevin



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Wrong keyboard after KDE4.2 startup, ok after a while

2009-04-26 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hi all,

I'm having a bizarre problem here. My system is lenny, with qt 4.4.3, X.Org 
1.4.2 and recompiled KDE 4.2.2 from unstable. The kernel is a self-compiled 
2.6.28. keyboard layouts are deactivated in kcontrol; activating them didn't 
change anything to the better.

After I start KDE, the keyboard layout for ~the first 2 apps I start is US. 
Typically I have this in the program starter (lancelot or kickoff), and in the 
first iceweasel I start afterwards. For all apps I start then (e.g. if I kill 
lancelot and then press the K menu) it's perfectly ok. If I only start an xterm 
instead of kde, and then iceweasel, there seems to be no problem at all (i.e. I 
have German layout).

This first appeared after I switched from etch (yes, there I also managed to 
recompile kde 4.2.0 after recompiling some other packages ;)) to lenny. Back 
then, I still had the etch 4.2.0 packages installed, and I thought the problem 
was due to the 4.2.0 compiled on etch, another compiler or whatever. 
Unfortunately, it wasn't.

My X.Org log is appended below. I used the kbd driver for input before, but the 
switch to evdev didn't change the situation. 

I really have no idea what the reason for this can be... maybe there's some old 
config files hanging around, but I have no idea where that should be. This 
system has not been freshly installed since ... potato?


Anyway, thanks for any help,

Stephan


/var/log/Xorg.0.log:

[...]
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"  
   
(**) : always reports core events 
   
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"   
   
(**) : Protocol: standard 
   
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"   
   
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"   
   
(**) : XkbRules: "xorg"   
   
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"  
   
(**) : XkbModel: "pc105"  
   
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) : XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) : CustomKeycodes disabled
[...]
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: 
KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "base"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_rules: "base"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_model: "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "de"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_layout: "de"
(**) Option "xkb_variant" "nodeadkeys"
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: xkb_variant: "nodeadkeys"


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