Re: konqueror java support fails again - suggestion

2003-05-24 Thread Mauro Darida
I have read somewhere about two fixes in java support. Maybe they can explain 
my failure to make java working in konqueror:
1. conflicts with the compiler: is kde 3.1.1 for woody compiled with gcc2.95? 
Java must be compiled with the same gcc version...is my blackdown j2re1.3 for 
woody compiled with gcc2.95?
2. In order to make blakcdown debs working with Mozilla a soft link is needed:
ln -s /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
should I do something similar ?? Or should I throw away this non-GPL f** 
language from Sun people ??
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saluti,  Mauro

On this machine no Windows system survives and LINUX POWER reigns UNLIMITED.




Re: konqueror java support fails again - suggestion

2003-05-24 Thread Simon Hepburn
Mauro Darida wrote:

 I have read somewhere about two fixes in java support. Maybe they can
 explain my failure to make java working in konqueror:
 1. conflicts with the compiler: is kde 3.1.1 for woody compiled with
 gcc2.95? Java must be compiled with the same gcc version...is my blackdown
 j2re1.3 for woody compiled with gcc2.95?

I doubt very much that the maintainer of the blackdown .debs would compile 
woody packages with gcc3.x

 2. In order to make blakcdown debs working with Mozilla a soft link is
 needed: ln -s /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so should be a symlink to 
/etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji.so  

 should I do something similar ?? Or should I throw away this non-GPL f**
 language from Sun people ??

:-) Well there are other jvm's (hence the use of /etc/alternatives)...

$ apt-cache search java-virtual-machine
gij-3.2 - The GNU Java bytecode interpreter
gij-3.3 - The GNU Java bytecode interpreter
kaffe - A JVM to run Java bytecode
sablevm - Free implementation of Java Virtual Machine (JVM) second edition
ibm-jdk1.1-installer - Installer for IBM Developer Kit for Linux, Java(TM) 
Technology Edition
j2re1.3 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition
jre1.1 - Blackdown Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE1.1)
j2re1.4 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition

...but I'd say the blackdown was your best bet.

Just out of curiosity, could you do

$ ls -l /etc/alternatives  somefilename.txt

and post it to me off-list.

HTH

-- 
Simon Hepburn.




Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-23 Thread Mauro Darida
On Saturday 17 May 2003 13:43, Simon Hepburn wrote:
 Did you check the other java related symlinks in /etc/alternatives? I
Checked: everything comes from j2re or j2se 1.3 debs. I enclose my 
update-alternatives --display java output...

 working again, mc is a godsend for this sort of stuff.  Also, when you had
 the sun tarball installed previously did you or the install script create
 any symlinks outside of /usr/local?  Did you clean up before installing the
 blackdown .debs?
I remember the sun install script said it would install everything in 
/usr/local/ so I have simply deleted the /usr/local/j2re1.4.1/. Anyway how 
can I check out any other symlinks ? I am a bit discouraged: everyone but me 
seems to have java working on woody:-((
-- 
saluti,  Mauro

On this machine no Windows system survives and LINUX POWER reigns UNLIMITED.
java - status is auto.
 link currently points to /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/java
/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/java - priority 1311
 slave java.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/java.j2se13.1.gz
Current `best' version is /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/java.


Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-17 Thread Mauro Darida
On Saturday 17 May 2003 00:47, Simon Hepburn wrote:
 Simon Hepburn wrote:
 Sorry, upon rereading your original post I realised that you are using the
 tarball from sun. The Debian alternatives system will only work if you use
 the blackdown .debs.  You can add one of these to /etc/apt/sources.list:

 deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid main non-free
 or
 deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody main non-free

Ehm, maybe you didn't read my msg entirely...I say, I CHANGED java machine and 
installed the one from BLACKDOWN, here is may apt source:
deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody main non-free
and it makes Konqueror to crash. I do not think using the absolute path should 
be an issue here, shouldn't it?
If it works, it should work both from the symlink or the absolute path, it 
doesn't matter.

-- 
saluti,  Mauro

On this machine no Windows system survives and LINUX POWER reigns UNLIMITED.




Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-17 Thread Simon Hepburn
Mauro Darida wrote:

 Ehm, maybe you didn't read my msg entirely...I say, I CHANGED java machine
 and installed the one from BLACKDOWN

Apologies, I was up at 5am with my 2yr old yesterday and by the time I got to 
read my mail late last night my brain was a bit stale.

 If it works, it should work both from the symlink or the absolute path, it
 doesn't matter.

It might matter if next time you upgrade, your java vm has changed location. 
By using an absolute path in konqui you are bypassing the debian alternatives 
system. The default path of java that the debian kde packages ship with 
works fine. This is not the source of your problem, I was just trying to be 
informative :-)

Did you check the other java related symlinks in /etc/alternatives? I vaguely 
recall having problems with java a few months ago. I think at the time there 
were only java packages available for woody, then packages became available 
for sid but when I upgraded lots of stuff had moved around and the install 
script failed to update some of the symlinks in /etc/alternatives. I had to 
edit a lot of those symlinks to get things working again, mc is a godsend for 
this sort of stuff.  Also, when you had the sun tarball installed previously 
did you or the install script create any symlinks outside of /usr/local?  Did 
you clean up before installing the blackdown .debs?

HTH

-- 
Simon Hepburn.




Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 02:50 schrieb Patrick Dreker:
 Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 02:13 schrieb Hendrik Sattler

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] zum Thema Re: konqueror java support fails again:
  On debian-java, someone posted a nice debian subdir to package the
  blackdown tarball release of a mor current version (1.4.1_01). I had to
  modify it a bit but if someone is interested, I can make it available for
  download.

 Yes, please do so... There is a newer Blackdown Deb Version, but it is not
 current either (1.4.0.99 (beta))

You can find a deb line and a package overview at
http://ma2geo.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de/public-debian/

Currently it contains java2-1.4.1_01 and acroread-5.06.

HS

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konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-16 Thread Mauro Darida

hello all,
thanks for your answers on my problem. I put in Konqueror:
path to java executable: /usr/local/j2re1.4.1/bin/java
and the previous error disappeared, but when trying a java application I only 
got :' loading applet ' and nothing more.
I tried a different java machine, installing debian package j2re1.3 from 
blackdown, and the result is different but equally useless: I get a konqueror 
crash. My path to java executable is now: /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/java.
ciuff ciuff the little train...

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saluti,  Mauro

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Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-16 Thread Simon Hepburn
Mauro Darida wrote:

 hello all,
 thanks for your answers on my problem. I put in Konqueror:
 path to java executable: /usr/local/j2re1.4.1/bin/java
 and the previous error disappeared, but when trying a java application I
 only got :' loading applet ' and nothing more.

With Debian you do not need to set an absolute path, java will suffice. 
/usr/bin/java is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/java which in turn points to 
the real location of your java vm. When you change/update your java vm the 
debian install scripts should take care of updating the symlinks in 
/etc/alternatives. There are quite a few others, here's what I get when I 
grep for j2se :

JavaPluginControlPanel - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/JavaPluginControlPanel
awt_robot - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/awt_robot
j2sdk-config - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/j2sdk-config
java - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/java
java.1.gz - /usr/share/man/man1/java.j2se13.1.gz
javaplugin.so - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/netscape4/javaplugin.so
javaplugin_oji-mozilla-0.9.1.so - 
/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
javaplugin_oji-mozilla-0.9.2.so - 
/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so - 
/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
javaplugin_oji.so - 
/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
keytool - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/keytool
keytool.1.gz - /usr/share/man/man1/keytool.j2se13.1.gz
policytool - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/policytool
rmid - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/rmid
rmid.1.gz - /usr/share/man/man1/rmid.j2se13.1.gz
rmiregistry - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/rmiregistry
rmiregistry.1.gz - /usr/share/man/man1/rmiregistry.j2se13.1.gz
tnameserv - /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/bin/tnameserv

You might want to check /etc/alternatives/ for broken symlinks.

HTH

-- 
Simon Hepburn.




Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-16 Thread Simon Hepburn
Simon Hepburn wrote:

 With Debian you do not need to set an absolute path, java will suffice.
 /usr/bin/java is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/java which in turn points
 to the real location of your java vm. When you change/update your java vm
 the debian install scripts should take care of updating the symlinks in
 /etc/alternatives.

Sorry, upon rereading your original post I realised that you are using the 
tarball from sun. The Debian alternatives system will only work if you use 
the blackdown .debs.  You can add one of these to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid main non-free
or
deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody main non-free

There are probably other mirrors closer to you:

http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html 


HTH

-- 
Simon Hepburn.




Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 00:47 schrieb Simon Hepburn:
 Simon Hepburn wrote:
  With Debian you do not need to set an absolute path, java will suffice.
  /usr/bin/java is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/java which in turn points
  to the real location of your java vm. When you change/update your java vm
  the debian install scripts should take care of updating the symlinks in
  /etc/alternatives.

 Sorry, upon rereading your original post I realised that you are using the
 tarball from sun. The Debian alternatives system will only work if you use
 the blackdown .debs.  You can add one of these to /etc/apt/sources.list:

 deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid main non-free
 or
 deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian woody main non-free

Those are quite old java versions, aren't they? (1.3.1, current in 1.4.1).
On debian-java, someone posted a nice debian subdir to package the blackdown 
tarball release of a mor current version (1.4.1_01). I had to modify it a bit 
but if someone is interested, I can make it available for download.

HS

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Re: konqueror java support fails again

2003-05-16 Thread Patrick Dreker
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Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 02:13 schrieb Hendrik Sattler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] zum Thema Re: konqueror java support fails again:
 On debian-java, someone posted a nice debian subdir to package the
 blackdown tarball release of a mor current version (1.4.1_01). I had to
 modify it a bit but if someone is interested, I can make it available for
 download.
Yes, please do so... There is a newer Blackdown Deb Version, but it is not 
current either (1.4.0.99 (beta))

Patrick
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