Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-15 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Moritz,

On Wednesday, 15 Mar 2006, you wrote:
> Hi Moritz,
> 
> On Wednesday, 15 Mar 2006, you wrote:
> > Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 15 March 2006 00:15, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > > > The update is built and tested, it'll appear soon. It contains three
> > > > ABI changing security fixes, so the ABI will be bumped. I can't speak
> > > > for d-i.
> 
> i had some discussion with Frans Pop today and we agreed that it might
> make more sense to have a new sarge d-i with R3 rather than R2. That's
> also due to the fact that he can't tell me how long it might take to
> build new sarge based d-i packages. (spoke about 2-8 weeks).

ups, mea culpa, Frans said 2-4 weeks.

Sorry about that.
Martin


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Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-15 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Moritz,

On Wednesday, 15 Mar 2006, you wrote:
> Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 March 2006 00:15, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > > The update is built and tested, it'll appear soon. It contains three
> > > ABI changing security fixes, so the ABI will be bumped. I can't speak
> > > for d-i.

i had some discussion with Frans Pop today and we agreed that it might
make more sense to have a new sarge d-i with R3 rather than R2. That's
also due to the fact that he can't tell me how long it might take to
build new sarge based d-i packages. (spoke about 2-8 weeks).

So my plan would be, as soon as we get the remaining issue for R2 fixed
(which i expect within the next 2 weeks), we then go without new kernels
in R2 and then have R3 a few weeks later (4-8 weeks), then with new
kernels and new d-i.

Do you think this sounds reasonable for the security team?

Greetings
Martin


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Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Hi Moritz,
> 
> On Wednesday, 15 Mar 2006, you wrote:
> > Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 15 March 2006 00:15, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > > > The update is built and tested, it'll appear soon. It contains three
> > > > ABI changing security fixes, so the ABI will be bumped. I can't speak
> > > > for d-i.
> 
> i had some discussion with Frans Pop today and we agreed that it might
> make more sense to have a new sarge d-i with R3 rather than R2. That's
> also due to the fact that he can't tell me how long it might take to
> build new sarge based d-i packages. (spoke about 2-8 weeks).
> 
> So my plan would be, as soon as we get the remaining issue for R2 fixed
> (which i expect within the next 2 weeks), we then go without new kernels
> in R2 and then have R3 a few weeks later (4-8 weeks), then with new
> kernels and new d-i.
> 
> Do you think this sounds reasonable for the security team?

Yes.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-14 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Frans Pop wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 00:15, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > The update is built and tested, it'll appear soon. It contains three
> > ABI changing security fixes, so the ABI will be bumped. I can't speak
> > for d-i.
> 
> ABI changes are for both 2.6 and 2.4 kernel, correct? Or is the ABI change 
> only for the 2.6 kernel update?

Both, the 2.4 update includes fixes for CVE-2005-0449 and CVE-2005-2709,
which change the ABI.
 
> (BTW. Did you drop [EMAIL PROTECTED] on purpose?)

By accident, my first reply was through Gmane, which for obvious reasons
doesn't carry a [EMAIL PROTECTED] newsgroup :-)

Cheers,
Moritz


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Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-14 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 21:46 +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> as we're now on track in getting sarge r2 out, I'm interessted when the
> next kernel update should happen - and of course if there is something
> important from your side. As far as I understood, that update will be an
> ABI-change, which means: we need to rebuild the installer. Is that
> correct?

This build has been submitted to the security team and jmm is working on
getting that uploaded to stable/updates.  So it should happen real soon
now.  And yes, it is indeed an ABI change.

If you decide to include this update in r2, d-i will need to be prepared
first.  We have not yet prepared the kernel udebs for the d-i roll, or
made changes to the sarge branch of d-i to incorporate it.

Thanks for contacting us about this; I was planning on sending you an
e-mail this afternoon.



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Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 00:15, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> The update is built and tested, it'll appear soon. It contains three
> ABI changing security fixes, so the ABI will be bumped. I can't speak
> for d-i.

ABI changes are for both 2.6 and 2.4 kernel, correct? Or is the ABI change 
only for the 2.6 kernel update?

(BTW. Did you drop [EMAIL PROTECTED] on purpose?)


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Re: timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-14 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Andreas Barth wrote:
> as we're now on track in getting sarge r2 out, I'm interessted when the
> next kernel update should happen - and of course if there is something
> important from your side. As far as I understood, that update will be an
> ABI-change, which means: we need to rebuild the installer. Is that
> correct?

The update is built and tested, it'll appear soon. It contains three
ABI changing security fixes, so the ABI will be bumped. I can't speak
for d-i.

Cheers,
Moritz


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timeline for next kernel update round

2006-03-14 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi,

as we're now on track in getting sarge r2 out, I'm interessted when the
next kernel update should happen - and of course if there is something
important from your side. As far as I understood, that update will be an
ABI-change, which means: we need to rebuild the installer. Is that
correct?


Cheers,
Andi
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