Re: Bacula: GPL and OpenSSL

2007-06-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 06:34:14PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
 
 Having already put my foot in this mess, I will try that out with the
 goal of producing patches this weekend, unless Kern, John or someone
 else prefers to investigate for themselves.  I may miss some run-time
 cases (I don't currently use Bacula), but hopefully the input is
 useful to Kern and to Debian.

That would be awesome.  Yes, if you post patches somewhere that Kern and
I can see them, that'd be great.

Thanks much for investigating.

-- John


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Re: Debian Trademarks Summary

2007-06-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 12:48:26AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
 http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/trademarks.html

] Just to be clear, the two debian logos are currently under the restrictive
] copyright licences described on http://www.debian.org/logos/ (set by
] votes in 1999) and not currently suitable for inclusion in the debian
] operating system, but the project is currently in the process of changing
] this. I expect an announcement from SPI soon.

That's no longer the case; both logos are now available under the MIT
license, however a public announcement hasn't been made pending some
details.

] Personally, I'm not surprised that there was not much progress on
] our trademark during 2006-2007, with a Debian Project Leader who writes
] utter rubbish like The DFSG [...] doesn't cover patents or trademarks
] but maybe we can get moving again now, and make debian more fun by
] fixing this mess at long last, instead of it being thrown up over our
] shoes each time we complain about someone else using trademarks to
] obstruct free software.

Yes, clearly no progress was made, and certainly all the progress that wasn't
made was in spite of anything I might have done.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/02/msg00019.html

  * there's a draft trademark license that we've been waiting for the
  project to do something with it for many months (mentioned on-list
  Sep 2005 and on planet May 2006 AFAICT), so please don't blame -legal
  or SPI for our delays.

It's likewise nice to see we're back to -legal not being a mailing
list, but an unconstituted advisory body that manages to be a responsible
body, somehow.

Yeesh.

Cheers,
aj



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Re: Debian Trademarks Summary

2007-06-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:48:26 +0100 MJ Ray wrote:

[...]
 I've collected some relevant links and text at
 http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/trademarks.html
[...]

There was another discussion on debian-legal back on April, with other
draft trademark licenses.  It starts here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/04/msg00071.html

Did you review it?
Maybe it's worth mentioning it in your document.

Moreover, that discussion stopped, waiting for input that has not yet
arrived: unanswered questions are included in this message (from me)
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/04/msg00154.html


BTW, I cannot see any (copyright) license for your document: I think it
would be great if the document were released in a DFSG-free manner.


Disclaimers:  IANADD, IANAL.

P.S.:
I'm subscribed to debian-legal, but not to debian-project.
No need to Cc: me, as long as debian-legal is in the loop...

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Copyright verification needed

2007-06-23 Thread Bruno Costacurta
Hello,

I'm preparing an ITP (Intend To Package) as a newbie regarding Debian 
packaging. About the source (for the ITP) I'm not the developer and simply 
reproduced the copyright I found with source code.
Could you please check the attached copyright file and its respect to Debian 
rules about license / copyright ? 
The template of the file was created by dh_make tools and I manually completed 
needed fields.

Note : the mentionned URL for download is not currently updated as I wait to 
open the ITP to proceed with it.

Many thanks.

Regards,
Bruno
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Re: Copyright verification needed

2007-06-23 Thread ajdlinux

On 6/24/07, Bruno Costacurta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I'm preparing an ITP (Intend To Package) as a newbie regarding Debian
packaging. About the source (for the ITP) I'm not the developer and simply
reproduced the copyright I found with source code.
Could you please check the attached copyright file and its respect to Debian
rules about license / copyright ?
The template of the file was created by dh_make tools and I manually
completed
needed fields.


It appears to be a standard 3-clause BSD license, which is fine,
however it also claims to link with OpenSSL and some stuff from
Trolltech.

OpenSSL is fine, however it is GPL incompatible, so if this software
is a library, you have to be careful.

The stuff from Trolltech is another matter though - they use the GPL
and the QPL I believe. If you use it under the GPL, then it can't link
to OpenSSL, and I believe the QPL is widely considered non-free.

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DPL's view of debian-legal (was: Debian Trademarks Summary)

2007-06-23 Thread Ben Finney
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's likewise nice to see we're back to -legal not being a mailing
 list, but an unconstituted advisory body that manages to be a
 responsible body, somehow.

 Yeesh.

The distinction above is clearly being made for sarcastic purpose. I
still don't understand it, though.

Can you please, as DPL, explain what point is being made here? Outside
the context of this discussion about trademarks.

What do *you*, as DPL, think debian-legal should be, and how is it
currently different to that ideal?

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