Re: removing the debian-legal website stuff?

2005-05-23 Thread Jens Seidel
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 03:47:05PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> As some of you might know some time ago I created a web page for
> listing information about licenses discussed by debian-legal
> at http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/
> 
> Comments, objections?

Maybe it is sufficient to refer to this page more often and to
explicitly request updates on various lists and in various threads.
I remember that you announced the page but never visited it before :-((

I'm sure it is quite useful.

Jens


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How does the license of an M4 autoconf macro affect a software license?

2007-12-05 Thread Jens Seidel
Hi,

the game Battle of Wesnoth contained in Debian is licensed under GPL v2+.
Now a dependence on the Boost libraries (www.boost.org) was added
and the configure script missed a test for it. So I integrated (see
https://gna.org/bugs/?10419) the file boost.m4 from
http://repo.or.cz/w/boost.m4.git which is licensed under GPL v3+ into
the build system (I these macros from configure.ac).

Now the question: Could the different license versions cause problems?
Can Wesnoth still be shipped as GPL v2+ or not?

I would also like to know the following (as the author is willing to
relicense boost.m4 if necessary to the Boost license):
If a possible non-free software which uses Boost would start using
boost.m4 in their build environment, is it necessary to relicense the
whole software under GPL v3+?

I searched the web for quite some time and couldn't find an explicit
answer except:

According to GPL v2 the build system belongs to the source code of
software but is the integration and usage of M4 macros a modified work?
Since I mentioned that some autoconf macros contain a GPL exception
I have doubts about compatibility and Eric S. Raymond asked me to
resolve it so please help ...

Thanks,
Jens


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Re: Sensibility and caveats of Debconf translations of licenses

2008-04-04 Thread Jens Seidel
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:13:25PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> I have two questions:
> a) Are there any precedents about translating licenseing texts
>(especially for non-DFSG-licenses?). In this case the license is
>rather straight forward, but generally speaking a user might not
>(fully) understand the english original (i.e. Debconf is just
>made to ask the user in his own language for the most important
>parts of the configuration).[1]
> 
> b) Should I/Do I have to ammend the translation to state that
>a) The legal relevance is unclear (IANAL, but there are
>   restrictions in Germany what can be within a contract) and
>b) The translation is only inofficial, hence in doubt the english
>   version is valid only - but this presents the (technical)
>   problem that the user has no (easy) possibility to switch the
>   language in situ. The only option would be to abort and restart
>   with LANG=C or similar.

You could append the English text also to your translation or refer to a
URL containing the English text ...

Jens


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Re: Licenses links broken

2008-07-17 Thread Jens Seidel
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:13:18PM +0200, Pau Ruŀlan Ferragut wrote:
> Most of the links in http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/ are broken, such as
> the FAQ itself. Please have a look at them.

Most?

OK, a few are indeed broken and I suggest to use the following URLs
instead. Since this is license stuff it would be nice if it could be
checked (just in case a license changed (such as X's one and the old
link referred to a older version than my new proposal, ...).

MIT/X11-style licenses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License
Python Software Foundation License: 
http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.5.2/license/

W3C Software Notice and License: times out ...

http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq
returns a Forbidden. Can someone check whether this site still exists
(on the people.debian.org server)?
http://tango.isti.cnr.it/docs/dfsg-faq.html is a (newer or older?) draft of it.

There are also many non-free licenses mentioned without a link. Why?

Jens


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Re: Licenses links broken

2008-07-18 Thread Jens Seidel
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:04:17PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:42:16 +0200 Jens Seidel wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:13:18PM +0200, Pau Ruŀlan Ferragut wrote:
> > > Most of the links in http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/ are broken, 
> > > such as
> > > the FAQ itself. Please have a look at them.
> > 
> > Most?
> > 
> > OK, a few are indeed broken and I suggest to use the following URLs
> > instead. Since this is license stuff it would be nice if it could be
> > checked (just in case a license changed (such as X's one and the old
> > link referred to a older version than my new proposal, ...).
> > 
> > MIT/X11-style licenses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License
> 
> Actually, the MIT_License wikipedia page currently includes the
> Expat/MIT license, not the X11/MIT license.  I would suggest to use the
> following link:
> 
> Expat/MIT license: http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt

OK, did so. Linking to Wikipedia would ensure that the link is always up
to date and this page contains also further info. But Ok I changed it
as suggested by you (inclusive s,X11/MIT,Expat/MIT,).

> The so-called X11/MIT license uses a slightly different wording and
> also includes a clause forbidding unauthorized use of names in
> advertising.
> Unfortunately, I cannot find a currently valid URL for the X11/MIT
> license.  The text is quoted in one of my old bug reports:
> http://bugs.debian.org/284340
> If anyone finds a valid URL for the X11/MIT, I would be very interested
> to know...
> Please note that http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/COPYRIGHT2.html#3
> is close, but not equal to the license I used to know as the X11 license

The Python link is now fixed as well.

Thanks,
Jens


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