Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daniel Baumann wrote: i'm not sure if it is possible to have some sort of redirects.. let's ask the alioth guys about that. If we can redirect posts to the new list (which I think is a good idea) then this effectively the same thing as disabling the old one, right? in case alioth does not provide some automatic thing to handle redirects, i will just set it to 'emergency moderation' (which means, [..] Ouch. If this is the only option, then we must really make sure all the live-* packages in Lenny have the new list in the Maintainer field, which may have some timing issues. it would be reasonable to disable the list completely in let's say 3 or 4 month after the switch (and thus making the address bouncing by that time). do you think more time is needed? With a redirect, that sounds like a suitable time. We will have to spot whether people posted to the Alioth list and inform them though -- it will be fairly transparent to subscribers to the new list. Without a redirect, that seems like a far too painful job to keep up for months though. so, should existing subscriptions be re-subsribed automatically or not? Yes. I'm not sure what the objections were to this action before, but I presume we will be changing List-Id at the very least. But IMHO temporarily breaking filters by re-subscribing members is *far* preferable to essentially unsubscribing people, even if it is not silent. Regards, -- Chris Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thursday 28 August 2008, 01:03:52, Daniel Baumann wrote: Will all members of the old list become members on the new list? i've no qualified opinion if this should be done or not (last time i saw something like that, some users complained about it). so, should existing subscriptions be re-subsribed automatically or not? As you wish, just remember to re-subscribe both of me :-) -- ESC:wq -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Lamb wrote: Ouch. If this is the only option, then we must really make sure all the live-* packages in Lenny have the new list in the Maintainer field, which may have some timing issues. yeah, but that is pretty easy :) Yes. I'm not sure what the objections were to this action before, but I presume we will be changing List-Id at the very least. But IMHO temporarily breaking filters by re-subscribing members is *far* preferable to essentially unsubscribing people, even if it is not silent. makes sense, i agree. Thomas pinged me today, looks like we could get the new mailinglist today night.. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daniel Baumann wrote: in practise, that means that this list here, debian-live-devel and it's archives will move to that new list). What will happen to the old list address? Is there a timeline for disabling it (relative to the creation of the debian-live list)? Regards, -- Chris Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Lamb wrote: What will happen to the old list address? Is there a timeline for disabling it (relative to the creation of the debian-live list)? i think it should be disabled for postings immediately once the new list is available. i'm not sure if it is possible to have some sort of redirects.. let's ask the alioth guys about that. in case alioth does not provide some automatic thing to handle redirects, i will just set it to 'emergency moderation' (which means, every posting is held for moderation), re-send it to the new mail address manually, discard the original post to the old list, and inform the author of the mail about the new location. i don't think that this will happen that much, so it would be reasonable to disable the list completely in let's say 3 or 4 month after the switch (and thus making the address bouncing by that time). do you think more time is needed? Regards, Daniel -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
maybeway36 wrote: Will all members of the old list become members on the new list? i've no qualified opinion if this should be done or not (last time i saw something like that, some users complained about it). so, should existing subscriptions be re-subsribed automatically or not? -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, as Debian Live will be an official Debian subproject starting with the upcoming Lenny Beta 1 release, I've requested a new list, [EMAIL PROTECTED], in order to reflect the 'new' state (in practise, that means that this list here, debian-live-devel and it's archives will move to that new list). Debian listmasters procedures[0] appears to need seconds from other people too. So, guys.. at least the people listed at [1] please write a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a simple 'seconded' in the body is enough. Everyone else is of course also welcome to do so, it's just that I try to get a hand at least on those people that are listed as team-members. Regards, Daniel [0] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list [1] http://alioth.debian.org/project/memberlist.php?group_id=30929 -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Moving debian-live-devel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marco Amadori wrote: It is nice when shorter means longer :-) lol, yes :) as a side note, the howto-request-list thing points to http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe for examples of the long-description, which is indeed a very short long-description. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
