Re: debstd woes
On Sun, 20 May 2001 00:42:10 +0200, Abraham vd Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Colin! > > > >However, if I run debstd, I get the following: > > > > One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) > > Hiehie, yeah, I discovered that debstd is ancient (so is 3.1.1 standard, > we're already at 3.5.2 :P) 3.5.4, actually. > > Anyway, I fixed it (just used dh_make, etc.) > > I really think we should drop the debmake package from debian though since > this package is really old and just helps to get you on the wrong track. > > -- > > Regards > Abraham > > Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. > -- Albert Einstein > > ___ > Abraham vd Merwe [ZR1BBQ] - The Debian Project > P.O. Box 3472, Matieland, Stellenbosch, 7602 > Cell: +27 82 565 4451 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Http: http://people.debian.org/~abz/ > -- _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ carlos.debian.net Debian-BR Project (_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| uin#: 981913 (icq) debian-br.sf.net Linux: the choice of a GNU generation - Registered Linux User #103594 My, how you've changed since I've changed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-English software
Hi, At Sat, 19 May 2001 12:17:09 +0200 (CEST), peter karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the thought about software which is only available in a > non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the > LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support > for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any > other languages yet). We, Debian JP Project http://www.debian.or.jp/ , have packaged many Japanese-oriented softwares and uploaded them to Debian. Then what occured? Some non-Japanese people asked us how to use them and possible bugs and so on, which means that Japanese- oriented softwares are sometimes useful for non-Japanese people. Please go ahead. If someone non-Swedish finds the software in Debian packages and feels it is very useful, he/she may start a project to translate it into English or other languages. It is exciting! However, the software will have to have a license document in English. --- Tomohiro KUBOTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.or.jp/~kubota/ "Introduction to I18N" http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/
Re: debstd woes
On Sun, 20 May 2001 at 00:42:10 +0200, Abraham vd Merwe wrote: > Hi Colin! > > One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) > > Hiehie, yeah, I discovered that debstd is ancient (so is 3.1.1 standard, > we're already at 3.5.2 :P) > > Anyway, I fixed it (just used dh_make, etc.) > > I really think we should drop the debmake package from debian though since > this package is really old and just helps to get you on the wrong track. Unfortunately some packages still use it; there are 68 packages in the archive that build-depend on it. It's not clear that use of debmake can be considered a bug unless it's actually broken. Maybe the package description should just mention that it isn't being developed any more. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 packages sharing the same config file.
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 04:22:41AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just adopted xabacus. > > It conflicts with xmabacus because both try to install > the same config file /etc/X11/app-defaults/Abacus. > maybe using an abacus-common package which owns that conffile... my question now is, is a file worth of a package on its own?!? -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936 4FEE 0677 9033 A20E BC50
Re: Non-English software
Hi, At Sat, 19 May 2001 12:17:09 +0200 (CEST), peter karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the thought about software which is only available in a > non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the > LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support > for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any > other languages yet). We, Debian JP Project http://www.debian.or.jp/ , have packaged many Japanese-oriented softwares and uploaded them to Debian. Then what occured? Some non-Japanese people asked us how to use them and possible bugs and so on, which means that Japanese- oriented softwares are sometimes useful for non-Japanese people. Please go ahead. If someone non-Swedish finds the software in Debian packages and feels it is very useful, he/she may start a project to translate it into English or other languages. It is exciting! However, the software will have to have a license document in English. --- Tomohiro KUBOTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.or.jp/~kubota/ "Introduction to I18N" http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debstd woes
Hi Colin! > >However, if I run debstd, I get the following: > > One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) Hiehie, yeah, I discovered that debstd is ancient (so is 3.1.1 standard, we're already at 3.5.2 :P) Anyway, I fixed it (just used dh_make, etc.) I really think we should drop the debmake package from debian though since this package is really old and just helps to get you on the wrong track. -- Regards Abraham Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. -- Albert Einstein ___ Abraham vd Merwe [ZR1BBQ] - The Debian Project P.O. Box 3472, Matieland, Stellenbosch, 7602 Cell: +27 82 565 4451 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http: http://people.debian.org/~abz/ pgpqEWBvjpfAP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debstd woes
On Sun, 20 May 2001 at 00:42:10 +0200, Abraham vd Merwe wrote: > Hi Colin! > > One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) > > Hiehie, yeah, I discovered that debstd is ancient (so is 3.1.1 standard, > we're already at 3.5.2 :P) > > Anyway, I fixed it (just used dh_make, etc.) > > I really think we should drop the debmake package from debian though since > this package is really old and just helps to get you on the wrong track. Unfortunately some packages still use it; there are 68 packages in the archive that build-depend on it. It's not clear that use of debmake can be considered a bug unless it's actually broken. Maybe the package description should just mention that it isn't being developed any more. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debstd woes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote: >debmake/debstd's development was frozen some time ago, so I doubt it. >Most people [1] who use a helper package these days use debhelper. [1] http://kitenet.net/programs/debhelper/stats/ -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 packages sharing the same config file.
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 04:22:41AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just adopted xabacus. > > It conflicts with xmabacus because both try to install > the same config file /etc/X11/app-defaults/Abacus. > maybe using an abacus-common package which owns that conffile... my question now is, is a file worth of a package on its own?!? -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936 4FEE 0677 9033 A20E BC50 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debstd woes
Abraham van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've just upgraded one of my package's control files from 3.0.1 to 3.1.1 and >now I can't get the damn thing to build correctly. > >The one problem I'm having is with the configuration file. I have the >following in conffiles: > >< snip <--< snip <--< snip < >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b/debian$ cat conffiles >/etc/ixbiff.conf >< snip <--< snip <--< snip < > >However, if I run debstd, I get the following: One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) >< snip <--< snip <--< snip < >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b$ debstd >- debstd processing for GNU/Linux -- >-- Installing Documentation >-- Looking for manpages in sourcepackage >ixbiff.1 ixbiff.conf.5 >** Main Package ixbiff >-- Adding /etc/init.d maintenance commands for ixbiff defaults 20 >Warning: Configuration file /etc/ixbiff.conf not provided in binary package! >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/copyright: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/changelog: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/README: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/TODO: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/ixbiff.html: Operation not permitted My guess is that you aren't running the binary target as root or faked root, which you need to do. Try installing fakeroot and building the package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot. As for the configuration file, perhaps you're accidentally installing it into the real filesystem as opposed to debian/tmp and never noticed because you always built as real root before? Incidentally, make sure that /etc/init.d/ixbiff is a conffile too. >As you can see, it won't add ixbiff.conf as a configuration file. I can't >figure out why it can either (the error messages really suck - can't you >make it more verbose?) debmake/debstd's development was frozen some time ago, so I doubt it. Most people [1] who use a helper package these days use debhelper. >Also, why is chown failing? What's it trying to chown the files to? root, probably, who's supposed to own documentation files. >The structure of my source tree is as follows: [...] >and the configuration file is in the src directory. So maybe it can't find >it? debstd doesn't actually physically copy the script into debian/tmp - you need to do that yourself in debian/rules. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-English software
Hi Peter, On Sat, 19 May 2001, peter karlsson wrote: > What's the thought about software which is only available in a > non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the > LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support > for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any > other languages yet). We have plenty of software in Debian which is English-only, with no support for gettext at all. I see no reason why English should be given preferential treatment. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
Re: debstd woes
Hi Colin! > >However, if I run debstd, I get the following: > > One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) Hiehie, yeah, I discovered that debstd is ancient (so is 3.1.1 standard, we're already at 3.5.2 :P) Anyway, I fixed it (just used dh_make, etc.) I really think we should drop the debmake package from debian though since this package is really old and just helps to get you on the wrong track. -- Regards Abraham Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. -- Albert Einstein ___ Abraham vd Merwe [ZR1BBQ] - The Debian Project P.O. Box 3472, Matieland, Stellenbosch, 7602 Cell: +27 82 565 4451 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http: http://people.debian.org/~abz/ PGP signature
Re: debstd woes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote: >debmake/debstd's development was frozen some time ago, so I doubt it. >Most people [1] who use a helper package these days use debhelper. [1] http://kitenet.net/programs/debhelper/stats/ -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debstd woes
Abraham van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've just upgraded one of my package's control files from 3.0.1 to 3.1.1 and >now I can't get the damn thing to build correctly. > >The one problem I'm having is with the configuration file. I have the >following in conffiles: > >< snip <--< snip <--< snip < >abz@oasis:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b/debian$ cat conffiles >/etc/ixbiff.conf >< snip <--< snip <--< snip < > >However, if I run debstd, I get the following: One good question is "why are you still using debstd?" :) >< snip <--< snip <--< snip < >abz@oasis:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b$ debstd >- debstd processing for GNU/Linux -- >-- Installing Documentation >-- Looking for manpages in sourcepackage >ixbiff.1 ixbiff.conf.5 >** Main Package ixbiff >-- Adding /etc/init.d maintenance commands for ixbiff defaults 20 >Warning: Configuration file /etc/ixbiff.conf not provided in binary package! >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/copyright: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/changelog: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/README: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/TODO: Operation not permitted >chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/ixbiff.html: Operation not permitted My guess is that you aren't running the binary target as root or faked root, which you need to do. Try installing fakeroot and building the package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot. As for the configuration file, perhaps you're accidentally installing it into the real filesystem as opposed to debian/tmp and never noticed because you always built as real root before? Incidentally, make sure that /etc/init.d/ixbiff is a conffile too. >As you can see, it won't add ixbiff.conf as a configuration file. I can't >figure out why it can either (the error messages really suck - can't you >make it more verbose?) debmake/debstd's development was frozen some time ago, so I doubt it. Most people [1] who use a helper package these days use debhelper. >Also, why is chown failing? What's it trying to chown the files to? root, probably, who's supposed to own documentation files. >The structure of my source tree is as follows: [...] >and the configuration file is in the src directory. So maybe it can't find >it? debstd doesn't actually physically copy the script into debian/tmp - you need to do that yourself in debian/rules. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-English software
Hi Peter, On Sat, 19 May 2001, peter karlsson wrote: > What's the thought about software which is only available in a > non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the > LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support > for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any > other languages yet). We have plenty of software in Debian which is English-only, with no support for gettext at all. I see no reason why English should be given preferential treatment. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debstd woes
Hi! I've just upgraded one of my package's control files from 3.0.1 to 3.1.1 and now I can't get the damn thing to build correctly. The one problem I'm having is with the configuration file. I have the following in conffiles: < snip <--< snip <--< snip < [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b/debian$ cat conffiles /etc/ixbiff.conf < snip <--< snip <--< snip < However, if I run debstd, I get the following: < snip <--< snip <--< snip < [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b$ debstd - debstd processing for GNU/Linux -- -- Installing Documentation -- Looking for manpages in sourcepackage ixbiff.1 ixbiff.conf.5 ** Main Package ixbiff -- Adding /etc/init.d maintenance commands for ixbiff defaults 20 Warning: Configuration file /etc/ixbiff.conf not provided in binary package! chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/copyright: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/changelog: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/README: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/TODO: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/ixbiff.html: Operation not permitted -- Checking for executable binaries in package DEBIAN/postrm Script DEBIAN/postinst Script DEBIAN/prerm Script etc/init.d/ixbiff Script -- Compressing/Converting Manpages -- Compressing Documentation -- Checking Symlinks --- debstd processing finished -- As you can see, it won't add ixbiff.conf as a configuration file. I can't figure out why it can either (the error messages really suck - can't you make it more verbose?) Also, why is chown failing? What's it trying to chown the files to? Any help would really be appreciated PS: The structure of my source tree is as follows: < snip <--< snip <--< snip < [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b$ find -type d . ./debian ./debian/old ./man ./src ./doc ./contrib ./templates < snip <--< snip <--< snip < and the configuration file is in the src directory. So maybe it can't find it? Doesn't make any sense though, since with the 3.0.1 control files, it was found. -- Regards Abraham Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds. Biochemistry is the study of carbon compounds that crawl. -- Mike Adams ___ Abraham vd Merwe [ZR1BBQ] - Blio Corporation P.O. Box 3472, Matieland, Stellenbosch, 7602 Cell: +27 82 565 4451 Http: http://www.blio.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp4fNifa49it.pgp Description: PGP signature
debstd woes
Hi! I've just upgraded one of my package's control files from 3.0.1 to 3.1.1 and now I can't get the damn thing to build correctly. The one problem I'm having is with the configuration file. I have the following in conffiles: < snip <--< snip <--< snip < abz@oasis:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b/debian$ cat conffiles /etc/ixbiff.conf < snip <--< snip <--< snip < However, if I run debstd, I get the following: < snip <--< snip <--< snip < abz@oasis:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b$ debstd - debstd processing for GNU/Linux -- -- Installing Documentation -- Looking for manpages in sourcepackage ixbiff.1 ixbiff.conf.5 ** Main Package ixbiff -- Adding /etc/init.d maintenance commands for ixbiff defaults 20 Warning: Configuration file /etc/ixbiff.conf not provided in binary package! chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/copyright: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/changelog: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/README: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/TODO: Operation not permitted chown: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/ixbiff/ixbiff.html: Operation not permitted -- Checking for executable binaries in package DEBIAN/postrm Script DEBIAN/postinst Script DEBIAN/prerm Script etc/init.d/ixbiff Script -- Compressing/Converting Manpages -- Compressing Documentation -- Checking Symlinks --- debstd processing finished -- As you can see, it won't add ixbiff.conf as a configuration file. I can't figure out why it can either (the error messages really suck - can't you make it more verbose?) Also, why is chown failing? What's it trying to chown the files to? Any help would really be appreciated PS: The structure of my source tree is as follows: < snip <--< snip <--< snip < abz@oasis:/tmp/work/ixbiff-0.02b$ find -type d . ./debian ./debian/old ./man ./src ./doc ./contrib ./templates < snip <--< snip <--< snip < and the configuration file is in the src directory. So maybe it can't find it? Doesn't make any sense though, since with the 3.0.1 control files, it was found. -- Regards Abraham Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds. Biochemistry is the study of carbon compounds that crawl. -- Mike Adams ___ Abraham vd Merwe [ZR1BBQ] - Blio Corporation P.O. Box 3472, Matieland, Stellenbosch, 7602 Cell: +27 82 565 4451 Http: http://www.blio.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Non-English software
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 12:17:09PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > Hi! > > What's the thought about software which is only available in a > non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the > LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support > for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any > other languages yet). > just package it and do not forget to put a warning in Description after all, the program could be useful to swedish, norwegian and danish speakers, which is probably more people than those interested in various obscure i* and w* wordlist packages -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
Non-English software
Hi! What's the thought about software which is only available in a non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any other languages yet). -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Statement concerning unsolicited e-mail according to Swedish law: http://www.softwolves.pp.se/peter/reklampost.html
Re: Non-English software
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 12:17:09PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > Hi! > > What's the thought about software which is only available in a > non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the > LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support > for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any > other languages yet). > just package it and do not forget to put a warning in Description after all, the program could be useful to swedish, norwegian and danish speakers, which is probably more people than those interested in various obscure i* and w* wordlist packages -- --- | Radovan Garabik http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | --- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Non-English software
Hi! What's the thought about software which is only available in a non-English language? I am thinking about packaging a client for the LysKOM server, which is only available in Swedish (there's some support for gettext, but no-one has bother translating the program into any other languages yet). -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ Statement concerning unsolicited e-mail according to Swedish law: http://www.softwolves.pp.se/peter/reklampost.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for help with mp3kult's postinst
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Carlos Laviola wrote: > I'm packaging mp3kult (see #94999), and having a bit of trouble to make > a perfect debconfized postinst for it. I already have a few nice tests > that ensure a more or less smooth installation, but some other tests > I plan to include would require MySQL knowledge, which I, unfortunately, > do not possess yet (gotta read that O'Reilly book at the library one day). > Well, I'd like to ask someone with a medium/good knowledge of MySQL to > give me "one on one" help with mp3kult's postinst. The sources are available > at http://people.debian.org/~claviola/debs. Have a look at the imp/horde package. It requires mysql and is creating a db, creating and filling some tables in the postinst. *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole - Linux & Open Source Solutions http://sourcepole.ch Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11
Re: Call for help with mp3kult's postinst
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Carlos Laviola wrote: > I'm packaging mp3kult (see #94999), and having a bit of trouble to make > a perfect debconfized postinst for it. I already have a few nice tests > that ensure a more or less smooth installation, but some other tests > I plan to include would require MySQL knowledge, which I, unfortunately, > do not possess yet (gotta read that O'Reilly book at the library one day). > Well, I'd like to ask someone with a medium/good knowledge of MySQL to > give me "one on one" help with mp3kult's postinst. The sources are available > at http://people.debian.org/~claviola/debs. Have a look at the imp/horde package. It requires mysql and is creating a db, creating and filling some tables in the postinst. *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole - Linux & Open Source Solutions http://sourcepole.ch Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
