Re: RFS: inferno

2007-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* Nicholas Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-16 12:45]:
  * URL : http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/
 
 Without looking further into your package (which shouldn't
 be native btw). What is the purpose to package an operating
 system in debian?
 
 Inferno is a compact operating system designed for building
 distributed and networked systems on a wide variety of devices 
 and
 platforms. [...] Inferno can run as a user application on top of 
 an
 existing operating system or as a stand alone operating system.
 
 Why not?

Really nothing against Inferno, Limbo is great and I love p9 
but I think the user base is a bit too small to justify an 
upload here. I don't see a point in using archive space for 
operation systems if they can be used in qemu for example 
too.

Other opinions?

Kind regards
Nico
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Re: RFS: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-16 12:45]:
 I'm looking for a sponsor, yes of course.
 
 I rebuilt the package tilda[1] with the new upstream version because
 the new maintainer[2] never done anything. :-P
 Here[3] there is my wishlist bug about tilda.
 
   Package name: tilda
   Version : 0.09.4-1
   Upstream Authors: Tristan Sloughter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Ira Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   URL : http://tilda.sourceforge.net/
   License : GPL
   Section : x11
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 tilda - terminal with first person shooter console likeness
 
 The package is lintian clean.

- copyright file is broken, see 
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html
- compat version should no longer be used (it does not make 
  a difference here)

Fix this and I'll sponsor you, please contact me off-list 
then.
Kind regards
Nico
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Re: RFS: inferno

2007-04-16 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le lundi 16 avril 2007 12:54, Nico Golde a écrit :
 Really nothing against Inferno, Limbo is great and I love p9
 but I think the user base is a bit too small to justify an
 upload here. I don't see a point in using archive space for
 operation systems if they can be used in qemu for example
 too.

 Other opinions?

I don't know anything about all of this, but I don't think user base is 
relevant. There is a lot of project that we upload without them having an 
important userbase, and space waste is not relevant too for the same 
reasons..


Romain



Re: RFS: inferno

2007-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* Romain Beauxis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-16 13:26]:
 Le lundi 16 avril 2007 12:54, Nico Golde a écrit :
  Really nothing against Inferno, Limbo is great and I love p9
  but I think the user base is a bit too small to justify an
  upload here. I don't see a point in using archive space for
  operation systems if they can be used in qemu for example
  too.
 
  Other opinions?
 
 I don't know anything about all of this, but I don't think user base is 
 relevant. There is a lot of project that we upload without them having an 
 important userbase, and space waste is not relevant too for the same 
 reasons..

I don't agree here, userbase should be relevant. That is one 
criteria for packages being deleted when they are orphaned. 
Disk space is also one of the reasons why we split 
architecture independent data from architecture dependant 
packages if it's more than the usual README file.
Kind regards
Nico
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Re: RFS: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:19:35AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm looking for a sponsor, yes of course.
 
 I rebuilt the package tilda[1] with the new upstream version because
 the new maintainer[2] never done anything. :-P
 Here[3] there is my wishlist bug about tilda.
 
   Package name: tilda
   Version : 0.09.4-1
   Upstream Authors: Tristan Sloughter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Ira Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   URL : http://tilda.sourceforge.net/
   License : GPL
   Section : x11
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 tilda - terminal with first person shooter console likeness
 
 The package is lintian clean.
 
 The package can be found here:
 - URL: http://www.catoblepa.org/debian/
 - dget http://www.catoblepa.org/debian/tilda_0.09.4-1.dsc
 
 Thanks for reading,

Why do it again? on 30th of january Zak Elep offered the same. You guys
should really work together instead of against each other.


Cheers,
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Re: RFS: inferno

2007-04-16 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le lundi 16 avril 2007 13:41, Nico Golde a écrit :
  I don't know anything about all of this, but I don't think user base is
  relevant. There is a lot of project that we upload without them having an
  important userbase, and space waste is not relevant too for the same
  reasons..

 I don't agree here, userbase should be relevant. That is one
 criteria for packages being deleted when they are orphaned.
 Disk space is also one of the reasons why we split
 architecture independent data from architecture dependant
 packages if it's more than the usual README file.

Yes you are right, it does matter of course.
But I don't think it is enough to refuse a contribution without discussing the 
interest of the package on its own.

In particular, the argument that it could be run in a qemu is not really 
relevant to me since we then woudn't have cross compilers too..


Romain



Re: RFS: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Koch ha scritto:

 Why do it again? on 30th of january Zak Elep offered the same. You
 guys should really work together instead of against each other.

Because Zak Elep, that should be the new maintainer, didn't do
nothing yet, like I said in my previous mail.
Moreover, when I reported my wishlist bug, I've built the package
already and now I think is arrived the moment to looking for a sponsor.

Cheers.

P.S.: Like you can see in my RFS there's Zak Elep in Cc.

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Re: RFS: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread Tobias Richter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because Zak Elep, that should be the new maintainer, didn't do
 nothing yet, like I said in my previous mail.

Exactly like you he has version 0.09.4-1 ready for sponsoring:

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/tilda/

Sitting there since Jan 30th.

Tobias


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Re: RFS: tilda

2007-04-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tobias Richter ha scritto:

 Exactly like you he has version 0.09.4-1 ready for sponsoring:

I'm sorry, I didn't know it.
I wrote many mails to Zak Elep when I propose myself has co-maintainer,
if necessary, but I didn't get any answer.

Anyway I'm glad to tell Nico Golde to sponsoring him.
My bigger desire is that tilda 0.09.4-1 could be enter in debian as soon
as possible.

Have a nice day.

Davide Truffa.


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possible inactive adopter (Re: RFS: tilda)

2007-04-16 Thread Bart Martens
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 17:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tobias Richter ha scritto:
 
  Exactly like you he has version 0.09.4-1 ready for sponsoring:
 
 I'm sorry, I didn't know it.
 I wrote many mails to Zak Elep when I propose myself has co-maintainer,
 if necessary, but I didn't get any answer.

I think that Zak Elep is not active, because I did not get any answer to
my e-mails related to sponsoring another package.

 
 Anyway I'm glad to tell Nico Golde to sponsoring him.

Nico, did you get answer from Zak Elep ?

 My bigger desire is that tilda 0.09.4-1 could be enter in debian as soon
 as possible.

That is of course very good.  Maybe a compromise could be that you take
over the ITA now, and that you join efforts with Zak Elep when/if he
expresses interest to comaintain.  Anyone object for some reason?



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Re: RFS: echroot

2007-04-16 Thread José Manuel Bustillo

* José Manuel Bustillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-15 02:57]:

 I am looking for a sponsor for my package echroot.

[...]
The description says that this is an alternative to the
well-known chroot. What makes it different?
Kind regards
Nico


echroot complements and extend chroot, run command with root directory
set to NEW-ROOT.

Kind regards
Bustillo


RFS: wmweather+ (updated package)

2007-04-16 Thread Martin Stigge
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 2.9-3
of my package wmweather+, since my usual sponsor for this package,
Martin F. Krafft, is not available for the next four weeks. (You could
see it as a one-time sponsorship.)

It builds these binary packages:
wmweather+ - WindowMaker dock app that shows your current weather

The package is lintian and linda clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: #416713

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/wmweather+
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/wmweather+/wmweather+_2.9-3.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Thanks!

Martin



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Re: RFS: wmweather+ (updated package)

2007-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* Martin Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-16 23:04]:
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 2.9-3
 of my package wmweather+, since my usual sponsor for this package,
 Martin F. Krafft, is not available for the next four weeks. (You could
 see it as a one-time sponsorship.)
[...] 
I will sponsor your upload.
Just two little things that would be nice:
- Use the Homepage tag in control like described in 
  
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-upstream-info
  instead of just writing the homepage into the description.
- You don't need usr/bin in dirs file since the Makefile 
  will create it, if it does not exist.

Fix this and I am happy sponsoring you.
Kind regards
Nico

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Re: RFS: wmweather+ (updated package)

2007-04-16 Thread Martin Stigge
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 23:11 +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
 [...] 
 I will sponsor your upload.
 Just two little things that would be nice:
 - Use the Homepage tag in control like described in 
   
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-upstream-info
   instead of just writing the homepage into the description.

Thanks for pointing this out, I changed this now and uploaded to
mentors.net already.

 - You don't need usr/bin in dirs file since the Makefile 
   will create it, if it does not exist.

I need it since make is not used to install the binary.

 Fix this and I am happy sponsoring you.

Thanks!

Martin


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Re: possible inactive adopter (Re: RFS: tilda)

2007-04-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nico Golde ha scritto:

  [...]  

 Davide, I looked at your updated package, I am not yet 
 gratified with the copyright document. Here my proposal for 
 what it should look like:
 
 [...]

I fixed it with your suggestions.

Thanks,

Davide Truffa.


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Re: RFS: wmweather+ (updated package)

2007-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Martin,
* Martin Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-17 01:03]:
 On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 23:11 +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
  [...] 
  I will sponsor your upload.
  Just two little things that would be nice:
  - Use the Homepage tag in control like described in 

  http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-upstream-info
instead of just writing the homepage into the description.
 
 Thanks for pointing this out, I changed this now and uploaded to
 mentors.net already.
[...] 
Uploaded.
Kind regards
Nico
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Re: RFS: echroot

2007-04-16 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi,

   I am looking for a sponsor for my package echroot.
 [...]
 The description says that this is an alternative to the
 well-known chroot. What makes it different?
 Kind regards
 Nico
 
 echroot complements and extend chroot, run command with root directory
 set to NEW-ROOT.

That doesn't really explain anything, what does it really do?


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Re: RFS: inferno

2007-04-16 Thread Nicholas Jefferson

Disk space is also one of the reasons why we split
architecture independent data from architecture dependant
packages if it's more than the usual README file.


I've removed inferno-dev and split inferno into inferno-bin (for i386
and amd64) and inferno-apps (for all). These packages now total less
than 10MB.

Thanks,

Nicholas


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Re: possible inactive adopter (Re: RFS: tilda)

2007-04-16 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-17 01:27]:
 Nico Golde ha scritto:
   [...]  
 
  Davide, I looked at your updated package, I am not yet 
  gratified with the copyright document. Here my proposal for 
  what it should look like:
  
  [...]
 
 I fixed it with your suggestions.

Uploaded.
Kind regards
Nico
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Re: Bug#419570: webcalendar: Package dependencies must allow php5 instead of php4

2007-04-16 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
package webcalendar
severity 393832 normal
merge 393832 419570
thanks

[Cc: to debian-mentors]

* Oleksandr Moskalenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-16 11:13]:

 Package: webcalendar
 Version: 1.0.5-1
 Severity: normal
 Tags: patch
 
 
 webcalendar forces retention of php4 on the system. Dependencies must be
 adjusted to allow removal of php4 in favor of php5. Upstream shows that it can
 be done.
 
 --- control.old 2007-04-16 11:12:09.0 -0600
 +++ control 2007-04-16 11:03:17.0 -0600
 @@ -11,8 +11,8 @@
 
  Package: webcalendar
  Architecture: all
 -Depends: ${misc:Depends}, libapache2-mod-php4 | libapache-mod-php4, 
 php4-mysql | php4-pgsql, apache | apache2 | apache-ssl | apache-perl, ucf (= 
 0.28), dbconfig-common
 -Suggests: php4-cli
 +Depends: ${misc:Depends}, libapache2-mod-php4 | libapache-mod-php4 | 
 libapache2-mod-php5 | libapache-mod-php5, php4-mysql | php4-pgsql | 
 php5-mysql | php5-pgsql, apache | apache2 | apache-ssl | apache-perl, ucf (= 
 0.28), dbconfig-common
 +Suggests: php4-cli | php5-cli
  Recommends: mysql-client | postgresql-client, mysql-server | postgresql
  Description: PHP-Based multi-user calendar
   WebCalendar is a PHP-based calendar application that can be configured

Thanks for this suggestion, we have already thought about the issue. Another
bug report has been filed requiring php5 support (#393832), so I am merging
both bug reports.

I see a problem with the above dependencies.  Imagine the following
combination of packages in a given system:

apache2 installed
apache, apache-ssl, and apache-perl NOT installed
libapache2-mod-php4 installed
libapache2-mod-php5 NOT installed
php4-mysql, php4-pgsql, and php5-pgsql NOT installed
php5-mysql installed

The above satisfy the dependencies as you wrote them.  The question is:
would php5-mysql work well with libapache2-mod-php4?

At any rate, the problem comes from the orthogonality of the three
dimensions:

   * PHP 4 vs. 5
   * mysql vs. pgsql
   * apache 1 vs. 2

The problem exists already in the the current version of the package.
Indeed, the following combination satisfy the dependencies:

   apache2 installed
   other apaches NOT installed
   libapache-mod-php4 installed 
   libapache2-mod-php4 NOT installed

However, the webcalendar package will not work under these conditions.  

I have no idea how to fix this problem.  Suggestions are welcome.

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Re: RFS: echroot

2007-04-16 Thread José Manuel Bustillo

2007/4/17, Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi,

   I am looking for a sponsor for my package echroot.
 [...]
 The description says that this is an alternative to the
 well-known chroot. What makes it different?
 Kind regards
 Nico

 echroot complements and extend chroot, run command with root directory
 set to NEW-ROOT.

That doesn't really explain anything, what does it really do?


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echroot extends the basic options that we found in chroot, with echroot we

can control many more options than executing chroot. Here I show some of the
options that we can happen to echroot.

For example:

mkdir ~/MOUNT

Mount another linux partition in ~/MOUNT
mount /dev/sda1~/MOUNT

with chroot
---  chroot ~/MOUNT   /usr/bin/mc
Run mc of   /dev/sda1   in  root


with echroot
---  echroot  --user=YOURUSER  --group=YOURGROUP  --stderr=YOURFILE
~/MOUNT /usr/bin/mc
Run mc of /dev/sda1   in root and set the UID of the process to YOURUSER,
the GID of the process to YOURGROUP, redirect STDERR to YOURFILE, etc 


The output of man echroot command.
-
  echroot is an extended chroot.

SYNOPSIS
  echroot [OPTION...] NEWROOT COMMAND...

DESCRIPTION
  echroot  is a simple tool born to be an extended alternative of the
well-known chroot(1) tool. Run COMMAND with root directory set
  to NEWROOT.

OPTIONS
  Run COMMAND with root directory set to NEWROOT.

  -d, --daemon
 Use daemon call to detach the process

  -e, --environment=VAR=VAL
 Set VAL value to the VAR environment variable

  -E Don't inherit environment

  -f, --fork
 Fork before starting the process

  -g, --group=GROUP
 Set the GID of the process to GROUP

  -p, --pid
 Print PID of the process

  --stderr=FILE
 Redirect STDERR to FILE

  --stdout=FILE
 Redirect STDOUT to FILE

  -u, --user=USER
 Set the UID of the process to USER


  -?, --help
 Give this help list

  --usage
 Give a short usage message

  -V, --version
 Print program version


regards
Bustillo